Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

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I ain't no fan of Biden, but IMHO I kind of hope he wins just so we can see what Biden Derangement Syndrome is like from these people.
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We already saw a glimpse with Obama Derangement Syndrome, when you had people flying flags upside down and claiming the dude was a secret Muslim born in Kenya. Not to mention the Teabaggers. I'm guessing it would be somewhat like that, only with more guns this time around?
 
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I don't know about this Ben...
 
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It doesn't help that the WHO kept waffling over the "mask" thing. Now I'm hearing that if you talk loudly CV19 can be spread via droplets in the air.

Also where I live there are female Muslim doctors and they do indeed wear masks. But not full burka. Headscarf, yeah. You never go full burka.
 
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iafiv said:
Lincoln couldn't compell the southern states from secession.But due to his authority to make sure federal law is respected across the US he could send the Army to enforce it.Its the one thing southerners didn't realise.The federal government couldn't tell them not to leave but it had full authority under the Constitution to enforce federal laws.Oops.
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Lincoln also imprisoned federal judges and generally violated Habeas Corpus. I mean, he was doing that for a really good reason, of course. Clearly, Trump could not do the same to either 'protect Americans from unneccessary death' or 'fulfill one or two of his campaign promises'. That would be wrong.
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Businesses are completely free to mandate that you need a face mask and gloves to enter them. You ever see a "no shirt, no shoes, no service" sign? It's the same thing.
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Unsure if you're just pretending to be retarded, or an actual conservative, but yes, I can totally believe an actual conservative would be so stupid as to push this line.

The sort of people who actually believe Trump is acting in good faith and building a wall will hold a grudge against any local businessman who tells them to wear a mask in their store- even just by putting up a sign- for years. Those businessmen will of course not be extended credit to any useful degree by the various US governments, and they don't have big VC pockets to dig from like the Amazons of the world. Of course, Jeff Bezos could literally fund turning those same conservatives son's dicks inside out, and they'll still patronize Amazon, while still holding a grudge against Sally's Hair Styling because she put up a sign saying 'PLEASE WEAR A MASK' for a couple weeks because she didn't want to kill her asthmatic mother in the old people's home. And the free market- and individualism entirely divorced from morality- wins again.
 
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3119967d0c said:
If you're not following @WeWuzBoomers on Twitter you're missing out.
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Lincoln also imprisoned federal judges and generally violated Habeas Corpus. I mean, he was doing that for a really good reason, of course. Clearly, Trump could not do the same to either 'protect Americans from unneccessary death' or 'fulfill one or two of his campaign promises'. That would be wrong.

Unsure if you're just pretending to be exceptional, or an actual conservative, but yes, I can totally believe an actual conservative would be so stupid as to push this line.

The sort of people who actually believe Trump is acting in good faith and building a wall will hold a grudge against any local businessman who tells them to wear a mask in their store- even just by putting up a sign- for years. Those businessmen will of course not be extended credit to any useful degree by the various US governments, and they don't have big VC pockets to dig from like the Amazons of the world. Of course, Jeff Bezos could literally fund turning those same conservatives son's dicks inside out, and they'll still patronize Amazon, while still holding a grudge against Sally's Hair Styling because she put up a sign saying 'PLEASE WEAR A MASK' for a couple weeks because she didn't want to kill her asthmatic mother in the old people's home. And the free market- and individualism entirely divorced from morality- wins again.
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are you also butthurt over "no skateboarding" signs on businesses
 
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Cosmos said:
I totally agree we need a thread about COVID-19 deniers, but I can’t make one until later
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Oh, it's so closely tied in with Trump- and corrupt corporate oligarchs, but I repeat myself- that it is effectively the same thing. Obviously, the same thing occurs outside America, but the pattern is the same- corporate shills leading around mindless reactionaries with fake populist rhetoric.

I love this Breitbart article and the comments below. It's a basically neutral report on Chris Hayes helpfully pointing out to reopening protesters* that they wouldn't look so mentally retarded if they just took the most basic precaution of wearing masks.
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* who are rational only insofar as that they recognize that Trump and the GOP will block any aid that goes to working people and small businesses, especially the people who make up his base
 
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John Titor said:
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I want someone to remind me of what historical moment that where this scenario happened. And if by next week, things go back to normal, does this mean these meme mongers would have to admit they were wrong?
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Admitting they were wrong would be showing disloyalty to the great and infallible Donald Trump. They'll either quietly slink away and start talking about something else (while insisting that any statements about how this lockdown is evil were "just jokes"), or completely flip about COVID and start demanding the lockdowns again.
 
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John Titor said:
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I want someone to remind me of what historical moment that where this scenario happened. And if by next week, things go back to normal, does this mean these meme mongers would have to admit they were wrong?
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Did you already forget about the days before we had the Patriot Act? 2000 was only 20 years ago. The federal government loves to use a crisis to increase their power, just read Robert Higgs' Crisis and Leviathan to learn more about the ratchet effect.

And I'm not even going to touch Gun Rights in the US. I'm not autistic enough for that.
 
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John Titor said:
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I want someone to remind me of what historical moment that where this scenario happened. And if by next week, things go back to normal, does this mean these meme mongers would have to admit they were wrong?
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I want someone to remind me when, EVER, governments just gave back power they were ceded by a mindless populace. This guy, and the context gives me nothing to go on, may or may not be a mindless Trumper, but wtf? If you think just surrendering basic liberties is ultimately going to have a good outcome you're a fool.

Main recent example: USA PATRIOT, 2001.

Too bad the only people protesting it seem to be absolute morons on the level of antivaxers and moon landing hoaxers. Probably because it's really hard to stage a mass protest against something that means mass protests would actually be suicidally stupid.
 
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John Titor said:
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This really feels out of context and as many have said did you not see the Patriot Act at all
 
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Honestly the debate between freedom and security has no clear answer.Theories are nice but real life doesn't care about them.The only thing that is certain is that the possibility of someone causing mass destruction from their home will only increase over time.Its the question that existed early in the nuclear age about the likelyhood of someone building a doomsday device with 10$.(a thought experiment)And what it means for society.Basically as tech advances the likelyhood of someone doing it gets easier.This primarily refers to the field of genetics which has automatic applications for viruses.So the pendulum over time will increasingly swing towards security.It is our very tech progress that is causing this issue.Making our lives easier but at the same time making our margin of error smaller and smaller.Its the ultimate irony easier living but in order to survive as a species increasingly controlled living.Win some and lose some.
 
iafiv said:
Honestly the debate between freedom and security has no clear answer.Theories are nice but real life doesn't care about them.The only thing that is certain is that the possibility of someone causing mass destruction from their home will only increase over time.Its the question that existed early in the nuclear age about the likelyhood of someone building a doomsday device with 10$.(a thought experiment)And what it means for society.Basically as tech advances the likelyhood of someone doing it gets easier.This primarily refers to the field of genetics which was automatic applications for viruses.So the pendulum over time will increasingly swing towards security.
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The issue there is "can we afford to police everywhere?"

Not really. So that leads us to the paradox of liberalism. They wish to increase individuals power while increasing security. The two axioms exist at opposite ends and cannot be reconciled.

Probably why liberals are freaking the fuck out because their philosophy is incoherent.
 
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lolwatagain said:
Did you already forget about the days before we had the Patriot Act? 2000 was only 20 years ago. The federal government loves to use a crisis to increase their power, just read Robert Higgs' Crisis and Leviathan to learn more about the ratchet effect.

And I'm not even going to touch Gun Rights in the US. I'm not autistic enough for that.
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I want someone to remind me when, EVER, governments just gave back power they were ceded by a mindless populace. This guy, and the context gives me nothing to go on, may or may not be a mindless Trumper, but wtf? If you think just surrendering basic liberties is ultimately going to have a good outcome you're a fool.

Main recent example: USA PATRIOT, 2001.

Too bad the only people protesting it seem to be absolute morons on the level of antivaxers and moon landing hoaxers. Probably because it's really hard to stage a mass protest against something that means mass protests would actually be suicidally stupid.
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Truthboi said:
This really feels out of context and as many have said did you not see the Patriot Act at all
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I actually did forget about the Patriot Act since I keep thinking about their favorite go-to tyrants; so, touche.

EDIT: As for context, all I can tell you is the guy sharing these is the type who argues that the lockdowns are unconstitutional and we should prioritize on saving the economy even if we risk reinfection. If you're asking about the guy who made it, then fuck if I know.
 
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