The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

Also, fuck this noise:

Troy Baker hints Joel has a dark past & possibly hurt women/girls in TLoU
This is like the Titanic hitting the iceberg, and instead of trying to mitigate the damage they just start hacking away at the hole with pickaxes to make it bigger.
Why yes, he does have a dark past. His daughter died in his arms at the very start of the outbreak, turning him into the world-weary cynic we see when the game begins proper.

In all seriousness, this is just stupid. It feels as though the second game is doing everything in its power to completely alienate Joel from the player after the player had spent an entire game getting to know him. And they're doing that by saying, "Oh by the way, that guy you spent 20-odd hours with who you sympathized with after seeing him lose his daughter and find a new one in Ellie? He was really an asshole all along!" It's fucking lazy. If you really want the audience to dislike Joel, have him go off the deep end after rescuing Ellie. He's already shown he's willing to go to extremes to protect those he loves, just build off of that instead. You don't need to arbitrarily add details to his past.

Also, how much you wanna bet this "dark truth" might have something to do with the wife we never see or hear about?
 
Why yes, he does have a dark past. His daughter died in his arms at the very start of the outbreak, turning him into the world-weary cynic we see when the game begins proper.

In all seriousness, this is just stupid. It feels as though the second game is doing everything in its power to completely alienate Joel from the player after the player had spent an entire game getting to know him. And they're doing that by saying, "Oh by the way, that guy you spent 20-odd hours with who you sympathized with after seeing him lose his daughter and find a new one in Ellie? He was really an asshole all along!" It's fucking lazy. If you really want the audience to dislike Joel, have him go off the deep end after rescuing Ellie. He's already shown he's willing to go to extremes to protect those he loves, just build off of that instead. You don't need to arbitrarily add details to his past.

Also, how much you wanna bet this "dark truth" might have something to do with the wife we never see or hear about?

If it's not the wife, I guarantee you it'll be something with him killing a woman/women during/post-apocalypse in a really brutal way.

They're fighting a losing battle, though. Unless they make him a rapist or a pedophile, people on the whole are not gonna stop liking Joel just because he's done some dark shit. I mean fuck me, the Far Cry series is built on the backs of its villains: People love them even though they are literal murderous monsters, so I'm pretty sure Joel will be fine.

Unless- again- they decide to really fuck themselves in the mouth and make him a pedophile or rapist. Those are the ones that will make people draw back, and it would be the literal worst possible decision the devs could make with his character.

The worst.

All men are rapists, even Joel.

A source close to development did confirm that ‘men’ was the main story focus in The Last of Us Part 2, and that the whole story revolves around the controlling nature of the patriarchy.

The story was reportedly inspired by LGBTQ people working at Naughty Dog and it touches upon the controversial opinion that ‘all men are rapists.

’The theory suggests that all men, especially ones with power and influence, will betray the trust of those who look up to them. This topic has been largely discussed and pushed by the mainstream media and is even taught in gender studies in Universities today.

Emphasis mine.

Once again, I am so fucking glad that I have enough distance from this game to not give a shit how this unfolds. If the devs are actually embracing the un- fucking-speakably sexist idea that "all men are rapists" then this is going to turn into an absolute nightmare shitstorm, far beyond the one we've already seen.

If the company and developers are actually running with this ideology in the process of making their game, they will absolutely push away players with opposing views, as well as moderate/centrist players. BUT, they may also start to push away people who generally agree with their politics, but disagree with the extreme nature of the ideology that they're pushing. There are left-leaning feminists who are mild enough or reasonable enough in their views that they will not approve of an "all men are rapists" narrative and denounce it as sexist (or at least, they will if they're not fucking cowards and hypocrites). I could so VERY easily see this being turned on the developers as a "men are all rapists, which means that women are all victims, and portraying women as victims is sexist" trap.

God. If there is even an ounce of truth to this leak, the developers need to be overhauling this fucking game ASAP. It will tank so goddamn hard if this is the sort of insulting ideological fuckery they're putting into it.
 
If it's not the wife, I guarantee you it'll be something with him killing a woman/women during/post-apocalypse in a really brutal way.

They're fighting a losing battle, though. Unless they make him a rapist or a pedophile, people on the whole are not gonna stop liking Joel just because he's done some dark shit. I mean fuck me, the Far Cry series is built on the backs of its villains: People love them even though they are literal murderous monsters, so I'm pretty sure Joel will be fine.

Unless- again- they decide to really fuck themselves in the mouth and make him a pedophile or rapist. Those are the ones that will make people draw back, and it would be the literal worst possible decision the devs could make with his character.

The worst.



Emphasis mine.

Once again, I am so fucking glad that I have enough distance from this game to not give a shit how this unfolds. If the devs are actually embracing the un- fucking-speakably sexist idea that "all men are rapists" then this is going to turn into an absolute nightmare shitstorm, far beyond the one we've already seen.

If the company and developers are actually running with this ideology in the process of making their game, they will absolutely push away players with opposing views, as well as moderate/centrist players. BUT, they may also start to push away people who generally agree with their politics, but disagree with the extreme nature of the ideology that they're pushing. There are left-leaning feminists who are mild enough or reasonable enough in their views that they will not approve of an "all men are rapists" narrative and denounce it as sexist (or at least, they will if they're not fucking cowards and hypocrites). I could so VERY easily see this being turned on the developers as a "men are all rapists, which means that women are all victims, and portraying women as victims is sexist" trap.

God. If there is even an ounce of truth to this leak, the developers need to be overhauling this fucking game ASAP. It will tank so goddamn hard if this is the sort of insulting ideological fuckery they're putting into it.
They're already killing off Joel, do they need to make him a rapist, too? Why the fuck are they so determined to demonize and ruin one of my favorite characters?
 
If it's not the wife, I guarantee you it'll be something with him killing a woman/women during/post-apocalypse in a really brutal way.

They're fighting a losing battle, though. Unless they make him a rapist or a pedophile, people on the whole are not gonna stop liking Joel just because he's done some dark shit. I mean fuck me, the Far Cry series is built on the backs of its villains: People love them even though they are literal murderous monsters, so I'm pretty sure Joel will be fine.

Unless- again- they decide to really fuck themselves in the mouth and make him a pedophile or rapist. Those are the ones that will make people draw back, and it would be the literal worst possible decision the devs could make with his character.

The worst.



Emphasis mine.

Once again, I am so fucking glad that I have enough distance from this game to not give a shit how this unfolds. If the devs are actually embracing the un- fucking-speakably sexist idea that "all men are rapists" then this is going to turn into an absolute nightmare shitstorm, far beyond the one we've already seen.

If the company and developers are actually running with this ideology in the process of making their game, they will absolutely push away players with opposing views, as well as moderate/centrist players. BUT, they may also start to push away people who generally agree with their politics, but disagree with the extreme nature of the ideology that they're pushing. There are left-leaning feminists who are mild enough or reasonable enough in their views that they will not approve of an "all men are rapists" narrative and denounce it as sexist (or at least, they will if they're not fucking cowards and hypocrites). I could so VERY easily see this being turned on the developers as a "men are all rapists, which means that women are all victims, and portraying women as victims is sexist" trap.

God. If there is even an ounce of truth to this leak, the developers need to be overhauling this fucking game ASAP. It will tank so goddamn hard if this is the sort of insulting ideological fuckery they're putting into it.
A source close to development did confirm that ‘men’ was the main story focus in The Last of Us Part 2, and that the whole story revolves around the controlling nature of the patriarchy.

The story was reportedly inspired by LGBTQ people working at Naughty Dog and it touches upon the controversial opinion that ‘all men are rapists.

’The theory suggests that all men, especially ones with power and influence, will betray the trust of those who look up to them. This topic has been largely discussed and pushed by the mainstream media and is even taught in gender studies in Universities today.
So it's basically this, but played completely straight.


This game needed to stop being a thing, like, yesterday. As in before this even began as an idea in the writer's room.
 
So is Druckman a rapist?
Well, he gave Joel the same kind of sequel treatment that was given to Indiana Jones by George Lucas and Steven Spielberg.
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If it's not the wife, I guarantee you it'll be something with him killing a woman/women during/post-apocalypse in a really brutal way.

They're fighting a losing battle, though. Unless they make him a rapist or a pedophile, people on the whole are not gonna stop liking Joel just because he's done some dark shit. I mean fuck me, the Far Cry series is built on the backs of its villains: People love them even though they are literal murderous monsters, so I'm pretty sure Joel will be fine.

Unless- again- they decide to really fuck themselves in the mouth and make him a pedophile or rapist. Those are the ones that will make people draw back, and it would be the literal worst possible decision the devs could make with his character.

It's really beginning to say something when I'm looking back on like, the last 3 Far Cry Games with a lot of fondness for their writing when the main trait of the villains was "How much can we get our actors to chew the fucking scenery." was the main trope for at least four of them. (Vaas Montenegro, Pagan Min and Mickey and Lou) Seed gets a pass because he sort of transcended with the hilarious twist ending of 5 only to become a kickass ally in New Dawn.
 
God. If there is even an ounce of truth to this leak, the developers need to be overhauling this fucking game ASAP. It will tank so goddamn hard if this is the sort of insulting ideological fuckery they're putting into it.

That's a little :optimistic: if I'm honest with you. There are thousands of fanboys and REEEEEEEsetEra types who will grab it for "starting important conversations." There are even more NPCs and bugmen who will consoome the collector's edition because it has a fucking 7" vinyl with it. These are the people who will pseudo-intellectually stroke their chins and finger their prostates at the massive subversion of expectations that a well loved character from the previous game was an arsehole all along.
 
That part is doubtful. If there is one thing that is consistent, SJWs don't buy SJW products and that has been consistent across all mediums. Now, diehard fans will (maybe) still buy it when it comes out, at least initially. That part I agree with.
There's that shitty blue-haired girl game that was apparently commercially successful. I honestly can't remember the name of it though and all I remember was that it had a cringy "angry at my stepdad" storyline in it. She could like reset time or some shit, idk just looked like a Walking Sim to me.
 
There's that shitty blue-haired girl game that was apparently commercially successful. I honestly can't remember the name of it though and all I remember was that it had a cringy "angry at my stepdad" storyline in it. She could like reset time or some shit, idk just looked like a Walking Sim to me.
The blue haired cunt was a side character you were supposed to sympathize with. The video is a pretty humorous run down on everything bad with that game
 
The blue haired cunt was a side character you were supposed to sympathize with. The video is a pretty humorous run down on everything bad with that game
I sat through about 5 minutes of a Let's Play where they were just in that blue chick's room talking shit on her step-dad for the WHOLE time. It was not a very good first impression to say the least. Thanks for the link, I'll give it a watch.
 
Yeah, choosing to have Chloe die instead of the whole town was a no-brainer.

"Wheehh my dad died! Hey Max, help me do this thing that will risk you getting expelled from school and ruin your photography career. What's that, you don't want to? Well fuck you then!"
 
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