Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

[José Mourinho]

No idea how a video's length detracts from its appeal either. Give me a more entertaining longer review vs a bland ultra short one any day. First of all, I *like* reviews, so when they're under 5 minutes, that's a letdown. 15-25 is pretty perfect.

As someone who actually liked ProJared's Quest 64 review, I really don't mind the length of a review video as long as it's entertaining, simple and informative. I'd rather take a 5 minute informative review video over a 30 minute video rambling with no conclusion. On the other hand, I'd also rather take a one hour informative video over a 5 minute review video with close to no information whatsoever.

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

He started uploading gameplay videos on his second channel again weeks ago. All old games from the 90's, and some super mario world randomizer. More or less entertaining. I enjoy them, but I also think he doesn't have much personality in these unedited videos.

The videos are unedited because his old editor quit during the disaster last year and he never gets tired of pointing this out. He mentioned in one video that his gameplay videos now don't make nearly as much money as they used to and that's why he can't hire a new editor. Whenever he gets stuck in a game or fails a lot he casually mentions that this could all be cut out of the video if he had an editor, but he can't afford one right now.

I'm pretty sure he keeps saying this because he's hoping someone will offer to edit for him for free. Or he wants to guilt trip people into giving him pity bucks on patreon or twitch.

I just don't understand why he can't just edit his own videos. He edits his main channel videos, so he knows how to do it. He spends all of his day hanging around at his house. It's not like he has an essential job (or a job at all). His gameplay videos are never over 35 minutes long (but mostly 20 - 25). He streams for about 3 to 4 hours on some days. That still gives him more than enough time to edit. I don't get it.

The whole "all youtubers need editors" thing is so weird anyway. I remember when everybody edited their own videos.

 

[Anchors-Away]

The whole "all youtubers need editors" thing is so weird anyway. I remember when everybody edited their own videos.

While I do agree, you have to understand this from a modern digital market perspective. The age of the e-celeb's getting Adult Swim deals for mere FUCKING tweets.

You see, when you find yourself in a position of notoriety online, you need to be consistent with content and be actively capitalising on your new found popularity. Especially in today's hyper-brand orientated "influencer" market. Once you reach these heights, the optimal way to remain on top is to cut-corners on whatever you can!

Some channels merely point a camera to their face/avatar and react like banshees at whatever news (Boogie, Angry Joe, most of the "Sceptic" space) and reserve the editing chops for dedicated projects (Metokurs Channel Awesome series, ChrisRayGun's musical parody videos, Angry Reviews). Others adopt a podcast format, since they can be recorded whenever and be bloated to hell and back with sponsors to avoid looking like a sell-out in the primary content. Shout outs to Audible.

For a channel like Jared, his strengths have never been with elaborate skits, quotable humour or visual editorial flair. For many here, what made them watch Jared was his knack for putting together compelling scripts that clearly showed his knowledge for gaming and criticise them in a level-headed manner. And with that said, it's apparent that with the way he writes and what he engages with in terms of gaming content, (JRPGs) that he has to spend a lot of time processing shit.

So he does what everyone else does in his position of power and cuts corners. He brings in an editorial assistant to cut-down the video from the raw files he has generated, he outsources branding assets in a G-drive to fast-track production without having to directly send editorial notes. Hell, he might even get "friends" to capture footage for him instead of recording while playing the game he intends on reviewing.

It's fairly common practise and an entire industry exists now because of it.

Least he hasn't gone down the route of Grumps/TOVG and investing into a giant office, hiring low-end staff/friends that still manage to fuck up your content worse than when you was editing it in the first place.

 

[Tanner Glass]

The whole "all youtubers need editors" thing is so weird anyway. I remember when everybody edited their own videos.

Once you introduce money into the equation - there comes a point where it makes financial sense to hire an editor as opposed to editing a video yourself. If you'd pay an editor $500 to edit a video that is going to make $2,000 - the editor leaves you free to make another video that's going to make $2,000, you'd be losing $1,500 by not using an editor.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Once you introduce money into the equation - there comes a point where it makes financial sense to hire an editor as opposed to editing a video yourself. If you'd pay an editor $500 to edit a video that is going to make $2,000 - the editor leaves you free to make another video that's going to make $2,000, you'd be losing $1,500 by not using an editor.

This is becoming really apparent during Covid. I still see channels uploading 2-3 month old content, because they make 2-3 videos a day, 5 days a week, meaning they can keep making low effort Covid videos and pepper in their queued-up and ready videos for months to come.

Shouldn't your interest be making videos, not the process of putting it together? Record for an hour, throw it to your editor who makes $35 an hour and is loving life and promoting you on their own accord for being a good bloke, ie. Pewdiepie and Brad and Sive. Same with MrBeast who pulled down a dude, got him a house, paid him way too much, and offered to house him til he found a new place after he quit.

Then you got narcissistic content creators who never want to share their fame, even if it means being able to make more content, because they feel it a personal failure. It's almost paying a service to society by employing some loser with no future who happens to have editing skills, as well as presenting more entertainment to the public because you can make more videos. One sponsorship deal pays for the editing of what, 7-8 videos? Much like musicians, a lot of content creators can retire at 30 but they're addicted to the creation, not the money, so why not cut the money in favor of more creation? It makes on sense if you're remotely reasonable, which I guess most of these nutjobs aren't.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Much like musicians, a lot of content creators can retire at 30 but they're addicted to the creation, not the money, so why not cut the money in favor of more creation? It makes on sense if you're remotely reasonable, which I guess most of these nutjobs aren't.

Most musicians and you tubers cannot retire at 30, not even close. Much like musicians - for every one successful one (aka PewDiePie) there's literally tens of thousands of people who didn't make it and are struggling to try and chase a dream.

For most people - YouTube as a career doesn't start to be viable until the 100,000 subscriber mark; which is really hard to attain. It also is worth nothing that these have to be real subscribers who are engaged with your content - as you are paid based on video views, view length, and ad interaction (no adblock). That's also assuming that you aren't targeted for content strikes, demonetized, get involved in any kind of drama, or break one one of YouTube's arbitrarily enforced rules. On top of that, your "money" account (Google AdSense) is in Google's hands and subject to their whims as well.

When starting out, you will get no help from YouTube (and won't get money, either - until you've gotten to 1,000 subs). Your videos will (likely) never be recommended over anything that YouTube is pushing (such as Late Night Comedy monologues, sponsored content, political content, etc) and it's a very long grind that many people can't make.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Happy one year anniversary of this glorious trashfire.

So what has changed in one year?

Projared is back to making vids:

Heidi is back to her shitty cosplays: https://twitter.com/kofi_button/status/1255783955367751680
And Holly.....https://twitter.com/HollyConrad/status/1258150342811717635

Crazy chicken girl and on her Twitter bio identifies as "she/they", lol, THEY.

Everything is back to normal, but I can't ever watch Projared again without thinking of his big, hard bird cock.

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

A whole year of this stuff, time flies but really incredible. I still recall when late at night right before going to bed I decided to check out /v/, only to see 2 dozen threads with Projared's awkward face and I knew KF would probably be interested. I had lots of fun and I appreciate all the work people put in, I think you can notice an increase in my post quality since I made this thread. I'm sure Holly and Heidi, maybe Jared will sperg again.
Holly does a twitch stream where she reads spooky stories with a friend:

https://mobile.twitter.com/spooky_saturday

Spooky Saturday

www.spookysaturday.com

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

A whole year of this stuff, time flies but really incredible. I still recall when late at night right before going to bed I decided to check out /v/, only to see 2 dozen threads with Projared's awkward face and I knew KF would probably be interested. I had lots of fun and I appreciate all the work people put in, I think you can notice an increase in my post quality since I made this thread. I'm sure Holly and Heidi, maybe Jared will sperg again.
Holly does a twitch stream where she reads spooky stories with a friend:

https://mobile.twitter.com/spooky_saturday

Spooky Saturday

www.spookysaturday.com

Looking up information and landing on this thread is what got me lurking the farms on the regular. Can't believe it has been a year already.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Heidi is back to her shitty cosplays: https://twitter.com/kofi_button/status/1255783955367751680

I looked at her Ko-Fi, which looks to be her sole donation income source, and it's not great.
(https://ko-fi.com/atelierheidi)

Now, I'm not 100% certain how Ko-Fi works, but it looks like each donation is $3 and she's been using it for ~3 months. She also has only a single goal listed, a Blyeth cosplay, which she was asking for $500.

Here's the data as I can see it.

She's gotten 3 donations in the last month, totaling ~$9.
Over the last 3 months (or slightly more), she's gotten $180 (36% of her $500 goal).

Meaning she's making ~$60 per month doing cosplay, which is horrendous. A large portion of that money looks to be birthday gifts as opposed to people giving a shit about her cosplay.

 

[The Pink Panther]

I looked at her Ko-Fi, which looks to be her sole donation income source, and it's not great.
(https://ko-fi.com/atelierheidi)

Now, I'm not 100% certain how Ko-Fi works, but it looks like each donation is $3 and she's been using it for ~3 months. She also has only a single goal listed, a Blyeth cosplay, which she was asking for $500.

Here's the data as I can see it.

She's gotten 3 donations in the last month, totaling ~$9.
Over the last 3 months (or slightly more), she's gotten $180 (36% of her $500 goal).

Meaning she's making ~$60 per month doing cosplay, which is horrendous. A large portion of that money looks to be birthday gifts as opposed to people giving a shit about her cosplay.

So one has to wonder.

How and where the fuck is she living?

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

So one has to wonder.

How and where the fuck is she living?

AFAIK Jared left the house they were both living in. I guess that is where she'll stay until the divorce is squared up and assets are finished being split, about which Heidi will "helpfully" let everyone and their mother know about, despite her lawyer's advice.

 

[The Pink Panther]

AFAIK Jared left the house they were both living in. I guess that is where she'll stay until the divorce is squared up and assets are finished being split, about which Heidi will "helpfully" let everyone and their mother know about, despite her lawyer's advice.

I thought it was reversed.

I thought SHE was the one that left the house and Jared is still in the house that he rented.

 

[omori]

I thought it was reversed.

I thought SHE was the one that left the house and Jared is still in the house that he rented.

I’m pretty sure it’s this, I specifically remember her bragging about having Jared move her things out.

 

[Gehenna]

Jared gave her enough for a year, she then additionally sold off quite a few assets, and even a low 'income' would stretch it further. Wouldn't be surprised if she got some more quiet financial aid during the kerfluffle.

My estimate would say she likely had ~2 years of cash in total.

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

Jared uploaded this to his instagram recently.

Seeing this instantly gave me traumatic flashbacks to seeing all of his dick pics a year ago. That pose makes me think he probably wasn't wearing pants or underwear while taking that pic. I bet he send the uncensored version of that pic to Holly with the caption: "thinking about you "

...okay, I'll need to cleanse my brain with whiskey now.

 

[BubbleButt]

What an ugly, bird-faced goon.

 

[LiquidKid]

Once you introduce money into the equation - there comes a point where it makes financial sense to hire an editor as opposed to editing a video yourself. If you'd pay an editor $500 to edit a video that is going to make $2,000 - the editor leaves you free to make another video that's going to make $2,000, you'd be losing $1,500 by not using an editor.

None of the youtubers with editors actually need them though. At most it would take them 20-30 minutes to create the timeline in premier and then they’re free to film in the next 30 minute to an hour it’ll take to render. These people aren’t the large tech channels that have 7 videos in the making at all times that have editors working non-stop, it’s the “hey, here’s the files, I’m gonna go hang out now” type of thing.

 

[Jaded Optimist]

Holly is down with furries.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

Holly is down with furries.
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FAS chicks will fuck anything.