The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Non-Threatening Niall]

This doesn't even make sense. Wouldn't you be freaking out at the fact that you're one more year closer to being put in the camps where they force you to be exceptional through mind-rape? How do you tell someone to chill out about that anyways.
"Dude I know you're freaking out about losing your rights for the rest of your life but look on the bright side, you can wear this pretty dress!"

And that's pretty much why that storyline demands resolving.

 

[Trappin in the Trap]

This doesn't even make sense. Wouldn't you be freaking out at the fact that you're one more year closer to being put in the camps where they force you to be exceptional through mind-rape? How do you tell someone to chill out about that anyways.
"Dude I know you're freaking out about losing your rights for the rest of your life but look on the bright side, you can wear this pretty dress!"

1. Has Enter ever done anything to imply that he has a sissy hypnotism fetish? Because what you just described, along with his penchant for putting little boys in dresses leads me to the worst conclusion.
2. Just imagine how pissed Enter would get if any other show made a point like "just accept your brainwashed fate", especially with how his reaction to being under quarantine is like he's gonna get shot if he goes outside, he'd actually fucking explode.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

1. Has Enter ever done anything to imply that he has a sissy hypnotism fetish?

Yes, he has. It was called "Growing Around".

 

[LiquidKid]

Why would adults need to re-learn now to be a child in a world where adulthood doesn’t really exist?

 

[BlueCandle]

During the final indiegogo stream, theres a point that Enter just completely stops answering questions about the show and instead just starts playing games from that '1001 best video games ever' book. Whenever anyone tries to ask him a question, he deflects immediately and just talks about the game he is playing and why it sucks. He never talks about growing around again for the rest of the stream. I think that's the point where he realized the indiegogo campaign was a complete failure, he sounds completely defeated.

While this is happening, one of the people on the stream with him starts doing impressions of a phoenix for no reason while everyone else but Enter gushes over it. This same person also randomly stated that she was 'robotized' a few minutes prior, while Ava talks about being the devil and about the gays. Imagine what Enter was thinking as he sat stewing in the realization that his magnum opus and one big shot at reaching fame was a failure, and the yes-men he surrounded himself with were even more autistic than he was. No wonder he sounds so pissed off these days.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

While Growing Around was already dead in the water long before this particular decision, I think that one of the largest nails that Enter unceremoniously drove into its coffin was the choice to make every single episode half an hour long.

None of these episodes have plots in them that use the extra allotted time even remotely well, and going back to 11-minute shorts would also effectively halve the workload needed to get one fully released, not that that has a chance of ever happening anyway at this point.

Enter claims that he can't write under twenty minutes because he has too much to say in a single episode. "Brevity is my weakness."

 

[LiquidKid]

Enter claims that he can't write under twenty minutes because he has too much to say in a single episode. "Brevity is my weakness."

To that I say the opening sequence of UP is 8 minutes long, most of that with no dialog, and yet it tells one of the most compelling love stories in animation history.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

Why would adults need to re-learn now to be a child in a world where adulthood doesn’t really exist?

Autism.

The answer is always autism.

 

[coach_mclurk]

So what do we think of Enter's astounding ability to pump out a script in as little as 3 days? That's how long the latest script took to be written anyway. Not even getting into the massive flaws in his writing, I feel like you'd want to spend more than a weekend on writing a whole episode of your passion project.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

So what do we think of Enter's astounding ability to pump out a script in as little as 3 days? That's how long the latest script took to be written anyway. Not even getting into the massive flaws in his writing, I feel like you'd want to spend more than a weekend on writing a whole episode of your passion project.

A 20-minute cartoon shouldn’t take that long to write. He’s not trying o make The Godfather.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

So what do we think of Enter's astounding ability to pump out a script in as little as 3 days? That's how long the latest script took to be written anyway. Not even getting into the massive flaws in his writing, I feel like you'd want to spend more than a weekend on writing a whole episode of your passion project.

Don't give him any ideas. If a project doesn't take him three days, it takes him at least two years. There's nothing in between.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Why would adults need to re-learn now to be a child in a world where adulthood doesn’t really exist?

This is one of the things I always get stuck on. The reason people mature is because they need to to survive in the world. There's no reason to put childish things away in this world, you're penalized for doing so, and you don't gain responsibilities that would take time away from these activities. In the real world, you play less video games or whatever as you grow up because now you have to work, if you're going to school the assignments are more plentiful and difficult, and you have to pay bills. There's less time to spend playing around. Not necessarily because you don't want to anymore, there are just more important things to do now.

This doesn't happen in Growing Around, instead you get the opposite. So, there's no reason that anybody is leaving behind games and stuff as they age, there's no one telling them to, there are fewer and fewer responsibilities taking away their time. If you begin life with bills to pay and then grow up to spend your time in pre-school playing games all day, shouldn't the kids naturally be more mature and become less-so as their life devolves?

 

[LiquidKid]

So what do we think of Enter's astounding ability to pump out a script in as little as 3 days? That's how long the latest script took to be written anyway. Not even getting into the massive flaws in his writing, I feel like you'd want to spend more than a weekend on writing a whole episode of your passion project.

He’s shown time and time again that he’s a slave to the almighty word count. Anyone can crank out a first draft of something in a matter of hours, but you only wind up with something good if you take the time to plan, draft, edit, and redraft. He never does this and never will, which is why his writing is so absent of any sort of theme or structure and usually has such an abrupt ending.

A 20-minute cartoon shouldn’t take that long to write. He’s not trying o make The Godfather.

Depends on the cartoon. I could see something like Avatar or Teen Titans taking a while to write, especially because the network has to then approve the script which could result in many rewrites based on the exec’s will.
But a goofy gag show? You could probably get two of those done in an 8 hour day

 

[BlueCandle]

So what do we think of Enter's astounding ability to pump out a script in as little as 3 days? That's how long the latest script took to be written anyway. Not even getting into the massive flaws in his writing, I feel like you'd want to spend more than a weekend on writing a whole episode of your passion project.

I’d wager the theme of the script helped out a lot at motivating him to complete it that fast. So far the summerway spitballs (shit name btw) episodes exist just as an excuse to write about his favorite fetishes.

 

[coach_mclurk]

He’s shown time and time again that he’s a slave to the almighty word count. Anyone can crank out a first draft of something in a matter of hours, but you only wind up with something good if you take the time to plan, draft, edit, and redraft. He never does this and never will, which is why his writing is so absent of any sort of theme or structure and usually has such an abrupt ending.


Depends on the cartoon. I could see something like Avatar or Teen Titans taking a while to write, especially because the network has to then approve the script which could result in many rewrites based on the exec’s will.
But a goofy gag show? You could probably get two of those done in an 8 hour day

To his credit, he is going back and revising old episodes. I don't know if he's fixing the fundamental flaws but he is at least self aware enough to realize his scripts need some work.

 

[LiquidKid]

To his credit, he is going back and revising old episodes. I don't know if he's fixing the fundamental flaws but he is at least self aware enough to realize his scripts need some work.

That’s not to his credit, he should have down that years ago. Nobody moves on the next script until they are finished. That’s just common sense and good work ethic

 

[coach_mclurk]

That’s not to his credit, he should have down that years ago. Nobody moves on the next script until they are finished. That’s just common sense and good work ethic

You just reminded me there was the original pilot, then an updated version of that, then he rewrote it from the ground up into Max's Many Birthdays, published first and second drafts of that before posting the "gold" version, then another revision when the indiegogo hit and it's still full of typos.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

I don't know if he's fixing the fundamental flaws

He isn't, because he's still trying to make the show.

 

[LiquidKid]

You just reminded me there was the original pilot, then an updated version of that, then he rewrote it from the ground up into Max's Many Birthdays, published first and second drafts of that before posting the "gold" version, then another revision when the indiegogo hit and it's still full of typos.

And there will likely be another draft at some point because that’s just how he is

 

[coach_mclurk]

And there will likely be another draft at some point because that’s just how he is

Hopefully it'll be proofread this time.

On a side note, I just got done reading the episode "House Keepers." Does anyone else find it funny that the only black character in the show is afraid that "spookies" will come and steal her house? Also for a while I thought Dora and Kimiko were the same character because their only notable character traits are that they're shy and they love animals.