Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[BScaller!]

"Honey" and "sweetie" are definitely very uncommon in the South East, you'd be more likely to hear "Darling" or "Sweetheart". But it's probably something she only uses in writing and wouldn't say out loud.

It's also something that generally grown people say, like auntie status not usually at 21-24.

 

[Salad Dodger]

"Honey" and "sweetie" are definitely very uncommon in the South East, you'd be more likely to hear "Darling" or "Sweetheart". But it's probably something she only uses in writing and wouldn't say out loud.

It's also a way to be a patronizing twat.

 

[TangerineQueen]

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I've noticed Chloe tends to call people 'honey' and 'sweetie' in the comments. Is that a common regional thing, or does it come across as very patronising to anyone else? Also, the capitalization of 'Survivors' is amusing.

Definitely patronising with a veil of 'sweetness'. Makes me cringe just reading them.

 

[nospicspanish]

Going back a bit in the thread here but wanted to respond to this- Chloe's descriptions of 'hearing voices' constitute some of the most damning proof of her malingering, imo. She's clearly never experienced an auditory hallucination in her life.

Spoiler: sperging about that hearing voices video

In Hearing VOICES?! COMMUNICATING With ALTERS (9:17 onwards) Chloe recounts how she never thought her so-called 'voice hearing' was unusual. She describes thinking that it was just her inner-monologue/internal thoughts. She uses air quotes here, indicating she wants her audience to assume that she doesn't have a clue what it's like to have normal inner speech (she reenforces this idea later). She says that these voices initially came across as 'background noise'. Describing untreated AVH (by nature an intrusive experience) as inconsequential 'background noise' sets off serious bullshit alarms. She says that when she described this to a crisis team nurse, she was told that she "needed to talk to a doctor". ....

If a CRHT nurse thinks you're hearing voices and there is no previous mention of it on your file, the issue would not have been dropped just there with the patient. All crisis teams function slightly differently in the UK, but as crisis teams directly involve psychiatrists/doctors and regular discussion of patient cases, a CRHT mental health nurse would be obliged to highlight this. An appointment with a CRHT psychiatrist would have been scheduled for as soon as possible to find a solution. Crisis teams rarely make a correct diagnosis when certain symptoms (that can result from multiple disorders) are detected for the first time, but anti-psychotics would likely be prescribed regardless of prognosis if the psychiatrist concluded that the patient was in fact experiencing auditory verbal hallucination. AVH is understood as a psychotic symptom even when it occurs in non-pyschotic disordered patients. Chloe has never mentioned being on antipsychotics at any point, if she ever had she would certainly have mentioned it.

In her Toi interview, where she recounts things differently than in the hearing voices video, she says that she did see a psychiatrist shortly after confiding in the CRHT nurse. If any of this shit actually happened it's likely that this was a CRHT psychiatrist doing a standard assessment, whether prompted or not by this interaction with the nurse who knows. According to her, they said 'hearing voices is normal'. This is clearly Chloe-speak for a psychiatrist telling her that having INNER SPEECH is normal, because inner speech doesn't constitute AVH. Hence she was not prescribed neuroleptics.

Attempting to distance her own psychology from that of 'singlets', Chloe claims to have no idea what normal inner speech is like. Whether she meant to or not, this implies that she is constantly experiencing some degree of AVH that she communicates with through 'thinking back' or talking out loud, as a substitute for inner speech:

"Sometimes you can sort of talk back, "think back" I guess it would be like, if you have a single personality, you don't have D.I.D or O.S.D.D, thinking to yourself.... what your actual inner monologue would be... when you can sort of communicate with yourself... I'm assuming that you can do that?"

D.I.D. does not prevent you from having inner speech, AVH does not replace inner speech. Chloe is going into overkill mode here, probably because she thinks she is cleverer than she is and that her single semester of psychology undergrad entitles her to just make shit up. It is very common for people who suffer from dissociative disorders to experience AVH, but this isn't how it fucking works. Voices heard by those who suffer from textbook D.I.D. are likely to have nothing to do with any alters, closely resembling the AVH a paranoid schizophrenic might suffer, a common incorrect diagnosis someone with legit D.I.D might receive.

I don't know where Chloe got the info from for these pop ups but they're bull. A bit of google shuffling suggests they come from unaccredited bloggers.
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ETA: there's plenty more to say about this video but I had to stop before I go full MOTI

the description under this video has a disclaimer about her (continued) racism, too. warning for her spastic grammar in the first sentence:

Disclaimer: we were taught the phrase used in this video "Chinese Whispers" in school by our teachers at a young age (yes, our teachers!) and therefore never associated it with anything potentially problematic. We apologise for our insensitivity on the topic, and thank the commenters who have brought it to our attention. We now know Americans use the phrase "Telephone" and have adopted this instead.

talk about still not taking accountability and blaming ignorance on teachers. chloe, just fess up that you have black, asian, and indian 'alters' as your jail-free tokens in case your racism shines through the lies and deceit. again.

I also found this thread of comments (same video)

i remember someone prior in this forum mentioned that chloe probably got tired of having to upkeep the silly, high pitched, i-dont-know-anything voice and made up having to integrate with nina to become Super Nina - sorry, Nin. expanding on that, i think she also gave up the innocent-host shtick to be 'herself' which is some weird combination of pastel goth and wannabe sex symbol, especially after everyone fell in love with nina after the 'meet my alters; girl edition' in which chloes details her sex life while being all breathy and moaning the words out. i guess chloe couldnt even let her fake alter have more attention than her lmao. gotta commend the lengths munchies and narcs will go through for attention. sheesh.

 

[comrade666]

I've got a couple more here.
The video where the little is mentioned is the 2K Milestone Livestream, and the name is still in the video. It's one of the same ones from the diary, Laura? Lauren? Cant remember off the top of my head. She didnt care enough to delete it so I'm assuming it's one of the ones that's gone dormant or bent over a barrel somewhere.

He became a Father to our littles...

So, Jamie really did take on that role as well as Nan. It seems she'll encourage all of her partners to slip into familial roles.

"Honey" and "sweetie" are definitely very uncommon in the South East, you'd be more likely to hear "Darling" or "Sweetheart". But it's probably something she only uses in writing and wouldn't say out loud.

I've watched almost all of her content and can confirm I've never heard her say anything like that out loud. The only time I could picture her saying something like that without it sounding tremendously awkward would be when she was mirroring Nan's accent - but to my memory, she never did say it. It wouldn't roll off the tongue for her.

i remember someone prior in this forum mentioned that chloe probably got tired of having to upkeep the silly, high pitched, i-dont-know-anything voice and made up having to integrate with nina to become Super Nina - sorry, Nin. expanding on that, i think she also gave up the innocent-host shtick to be 'herself' which is some weird combination of pastel goth and wannabe sex symbol, especially after everyone fell in love with nina after the 'meet my alters; girl edition' in which chloes details her sex life while being all breathy and moaning the words out. i guess chloe couldnt even let her fake alter have more attention than her lmao. gotta commend the lengths munchies and narcs will go through for attention. sheesh.

I would be inclined to agree. An additional bonus to merging Chloe and Nina is that she can quite easily fall back on Chloe's holier-than-thou persona whenever she faces criticism whilst enjoying the perks of being Nina full time. Clearly, living a lifestyle that revolves around kink is important to Chloe. Her behaviour on Tik Tok, the literal collar she wore whilst in a relationship with Nan, and the D/l relationship she developed with Nan absolutely demonstrated that. She gets to live out that fantasy on camera which appeals to her narcissism, whilst trotting out the educational Chloe persona every so often.

The longer I spend thinking on this, the more convinced I am that Chloe is also some form of exhibitionist; in the same way Nan got sexual gratification from posting herself engaging in her fetish whilst her audience suspected nothing, I think Chloe likely gets off on playing out her kinks on camera. Whether she plays the dominatrix we witnessed in a number of Tik Tok videos, or whether she plays the little girl, or whether she plays the pseudo-Mother figure who fucks her cat-boy son. But she can always fall back on the traits she ripped from her Chloe persona to mask her poor behaviour as Nina.

 

[Lurk]

Putting on my tinfoil hat and saying this is a Nan sock account trying to encourage a sneeze porn video from her

 

[BigBadgerArse]

So, Jamie really did take on that role as well as Nan. It seems she'll encourage all of her partners to slip into familial roles.



I've watched almost all of her content and can confirm I've never heard her say anything like that out loud. The only time I could picture her saying something like that without it sounding tremendously awkward would be when she was mirroring Nan's accent - but to my memory, she never did say it. It wouldn't roll off the tongue for her.

She does sometimes say honey and sweetie in videos.. ive definitely heard it. It always sounds so cringey and like its not in her natural vocabulary. Similar to something she said recently as Nin ''yaaas hunty, yaaaas girl, you get it hunty'' - high level cringe, made me want to crawl up my own ass and die.

 

[Daggerteeth]

The longer I spend thinking on this, the more convinced I am that Chloe is also some form of exhibitionist; in the same way Nan got sexual gratification from posting herself engaging in her fetish whilst her audience suspected nothing, I think Chloe likely gets off on playing out her kinks on camera.

Nina claims in this video at about 16:50 that her and Chloe are both “hypersexual” so honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case.

https://youtu.be/L3lm2HXD1T8

 

[heavycream]

People like to say they're hypersexual like it's just a personality trait and not an illness.
I bet they'd bail when they are offered the standard treatment for it, i.e. libido suppressing drugs (e.g. some classes of antipsychotics).

 

[Roodle]

She does sometimes say honey and sweetie in videos.. ive definitely heard it. It always sounds so cringey and like its not in her natural vocabulary. Similar to something she said recently as Nin ''yaaas hunty, yaaaas girl, you get it hunty'' - high level cringe, made me want to crawl up my own ass and die.

It's more common to use this language in the UK and it's not meant in the same way as in the USA. Usually used between female friends or the usual parents/children.

 

[tampax pearl]

I saw this before but didn't know who Fragmented Psyche was at the time. JFC, her response. I especially love this part:



Why... yes. Dave Pelzer? The man who popularized the highly problematic sub-genre of the misery memoir? The popular opinion is that he, at the very least, embellished the abuse and invented new material to keep pumping out sequels. Good example!

I remember reading that and wondering how the hell he didn't die, considering his mom tried to kill him with gas if his story is to be believed. One of his brothers came out to support his story, I think? There've been rumors the brother that denies the abuse was the "golden child." Anyway, it's misery porn. Go Ask Alice is a good example.

 

[DissociaDONT]

I remember reading that and wondering how the hell he didn't die, considering his mom tried to kill him with gas if his story is to be believed. One of his brothers came out to support his story, I think? There've been rumors the brother that denies the abuse was the "golden child." Anyway, it's misery porn. Go Ask Alice is a good example.

There was a NY Times article that paints an unflattering picture of him that reminds me of a pre-Youtube brand of Chloe and Co. His story changes, he remembers new trauma to meet demand, he's not drawing constructive attention to an important issue, he's just drawing a crowd to shower him in dollars and sympathy.

''A Child Called 'It,''' Pelzer's first and biggest book, was published by Health Communications Inc., a publisher of self-help books in Deerfield Beach, Fla. Pelzer claims he got no advance and received net royalties of only 3 to 7 percent, but his contract at H.C.I. showed that he got 15 to 20 percent of the net sale of each book. ''David's always complaining we don't appreciate him,'' says the company's publisher, Peter Vegso. ''David's a professional victim. I haven't a clue if his abuse stories are true, but we kept his book in stock when it wasn't selling. Then Dave got on Montel Williams, and there was an instant demand.''
''A Child Called 'It,''' a curious book told through the eyes of Pelzer as a small child, age 4 to 12, has spent 215 weeks and counting on the best-seller list. Over the course of 160 pages, Pelzer tells how his mother, Catherine, burns David's arm over the kitchen stove, smears a feces-stained diaper in his face, makes him vomit and then eat it, stabs him in the stomach, starves him for 10 days, makes him drink ammonia and separates him from his four brothers, who never witness his abuse.
What makes the book a riveting read for people with a taste for the subject are Pelzer's vivid descriptions of his abuse. The stabbing is dragged out over 13 pages. It begins: ''a sharp pain erupted from just above my stomach . . . a warm sensation flowing from my chest . . . where dark red blood pumped out . . . pain ripped through my ribs and blood seeped through my ragged T-shirt . . . pinched the slit. . . . I saw a yellowish-white substance begin to ooze from the red, angry gash. . . . I wiped away the pus . . . until blood seeped through.''
His second book, ''The Lost Boy'' (which was published by H.C.I. in 1997 and has spent 160 weeks on the list), chronicles Pelzer's experiences in foster homes. These are dull by comparison, so Pelzer devotes significant space in ''The Lost Boy'' to rehashing the abuse incidents from his earlier book, as well as adding some newly remembered scenes, like the time his mother made him eat dog feces. In a recent interview, he offered even more details, saying that it was dog feces ''with worms'' and that his mother had stabbed him not in the stomach but ''in the heart.'' Pelzer calls himself ''a storyteller,'' and it is hard not to read or listen to his stories and think that this description may be a little too on target, that his m.o. is to tell a story, gauge the response to it and then embellish until that story reaches the limits of believability.

 

[comrade666]

She does sometimes say honey and sweetie in videos.. ive definitely heard it. It always sounds so cringey and like its not in her natural vocabulary. Similar to something she said recently as Nin ''yaaas hunty, yaaaas girl, you get it hunty'' - high level cringe, made me want to crawl up my own ass and die.

Well, TIL what hunty means. I'm not always familiar with English slang - hunty meaning honey is a new one. Having looked it up, it appears to be drag queen slang, and a combination of honey and cunt. Either way, I'm sure in the context of replying to 'haters' it isn't a term of endearment.

 

[BScaller!]

It's another sad day guys, Chloe just hit 900k!

 

[HikikomoriLoser]

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Maybe our mommy Chloe is coming back when she hits 1 million? it's absolutetly unacceptable to not thank her fans for 1 million subs

 

[BigBadgerArse]

Well, TIL what hunty means. I'm not always familiar with English slang - hunty meaning honey is a new one. Having looked it up, it appears to be drag queen slang, and a combination of honey and cunt. Either way, I'm sure in the context of replying to 'haters' it isn't a term of endearment.

I would have thought the hunty thing was more American as i have heard a couple of vlog type people i watch use it. Cringey coming from anyone but not as much in the American accent. Sometimes you can just tell that a person doesn't usually use a slang term when it comes across offbeat and alien it just makes it extra... icky.

 

[DissociaDONT]

It seems like some shit's been going down on Twitter today.

They're still on the race stuff. Chloe bailed days ago, deleting their non-apology hidden in their comment section when it wasn't received well. Attentions turned to Entropy System, the white woman with the gay Mexican fictive. Fragmented Psyche came forward to say that, she was Latinx and their official representative and that she thought that Entropy System wasn't offending anyone by putting on a bad accent and talking about how much they love authentic Mexican food. And, if anything, white people talking over the voices of Latinx people, like her own, were offensive.

Except, it seems like someone pointed out that Fragmented Psyche wasn't actually Latina. I can't find the Tweet, but now Fragmented Psyche is apologizing after blocking the person that called her out and Entropy System is pulling a Chloe.

Edit:
It seems like Fragmented Psyche wasn't aware that people with Spanish ancestry don't get to be honorary Mexicans that can play the race card.

In her apologies she's trying to spin this as actual POC getting their panties in a twist over it being offensive that she speaks Spanish rather than the fact that they're mad she pulled a Rachel Dolezal.

 

[Lieileen]

It seems like some shit's been going down on Twitter today.

They're still on the race stuff. Chloe bailed days ago, deleting their non-apology hidden in their comment section when it wasn't received well. Attentions turned to Entropy System, the white woman with the gay Mexican fictive. Fragmented Psyche came forward to say that, she was Latinx and their official representative and that she thought that Entropy System wasn't offending anyone by putting on a bad accent and talking about how much they love authentic Mexican food. And, if anything, white people talking over the voices of Latinx people, like her own, were offensive.

Except, it seems like someone pointed out that Fragmented Psyche wasn't actually Latina. I can't find the Tweet, but now Fragmented Psyche is apologizing after blocking the person that called her out and Entropy System is pulling a Chloe.

Edit:
It seems like Fragmented Psyche wasn't aware that people with Spanish ancestry don't get to be honorary Mexicans that can play the race card.

In her apologies she's trying to spin this as actual POC getting their panties in a twist over it being offensive that she speaks Spanish rather than the fact that they're mad she pulled a Rachel Dolezal.

Lol it’s not even like she’s an actual Spaniard from Spain either. I bet people ask for her documents and papers ALL the time.

Two things which have caught my attention:

FragmentedPsyche is quick on Patreon to note that she is ‘professionally diagnosed’.
To me, any proper diagnosis should already be ‘professional’ so the qualifier seems like overcompensation.

FragmentedPsyche actually lists herself as a Mental Health Comedian. That’s probably her best joke.

 

[DissociaDONT]

FragmentedPsyche actually lists herself as a Mental Health Comedian. That’s probably her best joke.

She's slated to do stand-up at that EntitleDID to Life. Entropy System is supposed to be there too. That con's future is looking brighter every day.

I haven't shared it here because I wasn't sure if it was OT or not. I personally consider Fragmented Psyche an important supporting character in the tale of Chloe seeing how involved she's been in all the drama. I've been morbidly fascinated with her these past couple of days.

Intrigued by her understanding of human biology:

Fascinated by her parenting methods:

We currently live in a hotel with our children and dog. We have heavily depended on our 10 year old to take the dog out to the bathroom because it is difficult to take the baby out with us and the dog and our partner doesn’t want the 10 year old watching the baby. Also we have agoraphobia. Well, we found out that our 10 year old has been allowing the dog to jump on people and are now faced with two options: Get rid of the dog or move out. We haven’t quite saved up enough to get our own place and have nowhere to go, so we are having to get rid of the dog.
Our dog is our emotional support dog and we heavily depend on him during periods of panic and depression. And now we have to have him out by tomorrow morning. The whole system is in chaos and not only are we seeking a home or at least a no kill shelter to place him but are also preparing for the inevitable breakdown to some degree.
We can’t imagine life without our dog and can only think about how scared and sad he is going to be. He doesn’t know anything other than our family and we are his pack.
Trying really hard to fight the anger and resentment towards our daughter. Yea, she messed up big time...but really it’s our fault. She is ASD and we thought giving her this responsibility would help build her self confidence as well as help us out. And it totally backfired.
And now it feels like our heart is shattering
...
We and my partner gave her specific instructions on how to take him out (which doors to go through, keep him away from people bc he does jump, pick up hid poop, etc). She did the exact opposite of all of it. And I have to keep reminding myself she is on the spectrum and maybe the instructions were too much for her to remember or understand. I blame myself more than anything bc I feel like maybe I should have anticipated this possibility and for some reason I didn’t. The hard part is the littles. They’re younger than her and they don’t understand and they’re angry at her. Not outwardly. Luckily the older parts are keeping them busy and we aren’t lashing out at her. She doesn’t understand what has happened. All my kids know is that we are having to say goodbye to our dog. And it is painful for the whole family and the system. Just don’t know how to get the littles to understand. :/

 

[comrade666]

She's slated to do stand-up at that EntitleDID to Life. Entropy System is supposed to be there too. That con's future is looking brighter every day.

I haven't shared it here because I wasn't sure if it was OT or not. I personally consider Fragmented Psyche an important supporting character in the tale of Chloe seeing how involved she's been in all the drama. I've been morbidly fascinated with her these past couple of days.

Intrigued by her understanding of human biology:

Fascinated by her parenting methods:

She is definitely one of those sideshows you can't quite look away from. I've been digging into her out of morbid curiosity; I may write up my findings in the plurals thread eventually. Chloe alone is entertaining enough, but FP attempting stand up would be golden. Fat Robert is also attending the conference; I'd love to watch him in the wild.
With regular admission alone at $140 and travel off the cards thanks to WuFlu it looks unlikely that anyone sane is going to attend. Shame... these people are in desperate need of a tard wrangler.