The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Piga Dgrifm]

There is a "home for the childless", that he has described as something akin to an orphanage

But it's probably a swing club

I said it before, but he really shouldn't have put so many rainbows here, considering gay people just get to stay in this prison forever once they turn 18, and the only way to escape is to lock themselves into an unfulfilling relationship with someone they'll never be attracted to so they can spawn more people to oppress them.

 

[tamago]

once they turn 18

Doesn't that mean that anyone who doesn't have kids by 18 is shipped here? By extension that means the world of Growing Around has a lot of teen pregnancies...

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

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I said it before, but he really shouldn't have put so many rainbows here, considering gay people just get to stay in this prison forever once they turn 18, and the only way to escape is to lock themselves into an unfulfilling relationship with someone they'll never be attracted to so they can spawn more people to oppress them.

To be fair, there are gay parents in Growing Around if you know where to look, but I don't think it's ever made clear how that happens. If the adults can adopt the children, then what deranged masochist would take that option? If the children adopt the adults, then that raises a ton of depressing questions.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I bet people ITT are tired of people saying "Growing Around can only work if" since there is really I think only one scenario it could actually work which is that it's a one off dream episode of another cartoon that teaches the morality to appreciate your parents and that kids ruling is a horrible idea. There is nothing else really to make this nothing more than a one off morality lesson for young children to appreciate their parents more.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

I bet people ITT are tired of people saying "Growing Around can only work if" since there is really I think only one scenario it could actually work which is that it's a one off dream episode of another cartoon that teaches the morality to appreciate your parents and that kids ruling is a horrible idea. There is nothing else really to make this nothing more than a one off morality lesson for young children to appreciate their parents more.

I could also see it working as sort of an Adult Swim children’s show parody of sorts, like showing it from the adults’ perspective and going full-on saccharine dystopia, but “Enter’s vision” for Growing Around is absolutely fucking stupid and could never work.

 

[CoconutCat]

And this is the same man who got pissed over Fairly Oddparents' gender stereotyping.

But don't you see? Mr. Enter "does it right" by inserting a token character that defies stereotypes, and that somehow magically fixes the problem. Tales of Childhood past has that one boy who's hinted at kinda liking being girly, which apparently fixes everything else wrong with the episode.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

And this is the same man who got pissed over Fairly Oddparents' gender stereotyping.

Growing Around at this point has degenerated into a full-on fetish work. If it's his fetish and he wants to make a show around his fetish, then fine, but if you're going to make a fetish show then at least be upfront about the fact that it is, and have it be meaningful to the plot/lore of your work instead of just having it for the sake of having it. I don't understand why crossdressing is such a huge part of GA other than "BUT HOW CUM IT'S OKAY FOR WIMMIN TO DO MAN STUFF". It just doesn't seem to serve a purpose other than author appeal. At least when Bugs Bunny dresses in drag it's done with the intent of foiling whatever antagonist he's up against, and not just randomly dressing as a woman just because.

And then there's the fact that he thinks he's making some profound statement on gender with his fetish show yet doesn't understand the subject in the slightest (and outright admitted addressing it makes him uncomfortable) and handles it with all the delicacy of a drunk bull in a china shop. I am both dreading and looking forward to the inevitable backlash from the trans community.

All of this, and if it also didn't include literal children.

That's the part that breaks it for me. If Enter just wanted to write his disgusting, sissification, mental regression, AB/ddlg, crossing-dressing fetish fuel that would be one thing, but the fact that he involves actual children in it is what freaks me out so much.

 

[Petronella]

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I said it before, but he really shouldn't have put so many rainbows here, considering gay people just get to stay in this prison forever once they turn 18, and the only way to escape is to lock themselves into an unfulfilling relationship with someone they'll never be attracted to so they can spawn more people to oppress them.

That bit about trying to give the place a "romantic theme" because they "don't want people to stay here forever" tells me this is supposed to be some sort of orgy camp to knock up the women. You know, for kids.

 

[Wabbu]

That bit about trying to give the place a "romantic theme" because they "don't want people to stay here forever" tells me this is supposed to be some sort of orgy camp to knock up the women. You know, for kids.

It's literally a human farm

 

[Dumbchan]

Growing Around is about guys dressing up as girls because that's all I see Enter doing.

Change my mind.

 

[Optimus Prime]

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I said it before, but he really shouldn't have put so many rainbows here, considering gay people just get to stay in this prison forever once they turn 18, and the only way to escape is to lock themselves into an unfulfilling relationship with someone they'll never be attracted to so they can spawn more people to oppress them.

"Parody of an orphanage"

No, Enter, a parody of an orphanage is what they did in the Team Fortress 2 "End of the Line" video where the train is going to blow up the baby orphanage, the puppy orphanage, and the baby and puppy orphanage, all at once, alongside RED Team.

This is literally a human zoo crossed with Steven King's The Dome.

God, at this point I'd love for Enter to play We Happy Few if only to get it through his head his crapsaccharine world could only possibly function with some truly fucked up shit going on in the background.

 

[andr0id psycho sho(ker]

"Parody of an orphanage"

No, Enter, a parody of an orphanage is what they did in the Team Fortress 2 "End of the Line" video where the train is going to blow up the baby orphanage, the puppy orphanage, and the baby and puppy orphanage, all at once, alongside RED Team.

This is literally a human zoo crossed with Steven King's The Dome.

God, at this point I'd love for Enter to play We Happy Few if only to get it through his head his crapsaccharine world could only possibly function with some truly fucked up shit going on in the background.

Doesn't the fucked up stuff already go behind the schenes? Enter just thorougly denies it could ever happen and not give any reasons why

 

[Doctor of Autism]

"Parody of an orphanage"

No, Enter, a parody of an orphanage is what they did in the Team Fortress 2 "End of the Line" video where the train is going to blow up the baby orphanage, the puppy orphanage, and the baby and puppy orphanage, all at once, alongside RED Team.

This is literally a human zoo crossed with Steven King's The Dome.

God, at this point I'd love for Enter to play We Happy Few if only to get it through his head his crapsaccharine world could only possibly function with some truly fucked up shit going on in the background.

Nah Enter will insist that Growing Around is still a utopia or whatever

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

For clarification: I don't think Enter ever said that "Growing Around" was a utopia. He only insists it's "not a dystopia." He knows his world has problems, enough so that even he wouldn't want to live there, but that applies to many cartoons he likes, so he doesn't consider it a mark against the show. Calling it a "dystopia" would imply that the world is so broken and cruel that our protagonists can't stand it and their series-wide goal is to dismantle the oppressive system, and while that's a direction I feel would fix every problem I have with the premise, of course it's the exact opposite of what Mr. E's going for.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

For clarification: I don't think Enter ever said that "Growing Around" was a utopia. He only insists it's "not a dystopia." He knows his world has problems, enough so that even he wouldn't want to live there, but that applies to many cartoons he likes, so he doesn't consider it a mark against the show. Calling it a "dystopia" would imply that the world is so broken and cruel that our protagonists can't stand it and their series-wide goal is to dismantle the oppressive system, which is nowhere near what Mr. E's going for.

I mean sure he doesn't call it like that openly but there are still factors that make him adore it such as an excuse for adults to be okay with the system because he'd be fine with it along with his repeated insistence that Growing Around is not a dystopia.

Doesn't help all of his fetishes are there too.

 

[LiquidKid]

For clarification: I don't think Enter ever said that "Growing Around" was a utopia. He only insists it's "not a dystopia." He knows his world has problems, enough so that even he wouldn't want to live there, but that applies to many cartoons he likes, so he doesn't consider it a mark against the show. Calling it a "dystopia" would imply that the world is so broken and cruel that our protagonists can't stand it and their series-wide goal is to dismantle the oppressive system, and while that's a direction I feel would fix every problem I have with the premise, of course it's the exact opposite of what Mr. E's going for.

He’s stated on multiple occasions that he considers this world more free than the real world and that adults somehow have more freedom there. Which is basically North Korean logic when it comes to “freedom”

 

[Optimus Prime]

He’s stated on multiple occasions that he considers this world more free than the real world and that adults somehow have more freedom there. Which is basically North Korean logic when it comes to “freedom”

He also would unleash a pandemic "with consequences" or something.

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

He also would unleash a pandemic "with consequences" or something.

That’s a horrifying thought.

 

[Mr Roboto]

What would happen to adults who can't have children (such as men with low sperm count)? Would they be forever trapped in this dome?

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

What would happen to adults who can't have children (such as men with low sperm count)? Would they be forever trapped in this dome?

Part of the backstory for the Adult Baby character is that she can't have children and must remain in the dome for good.

So, I guess being trapped there long enough can lead to mental breakdowns.

Another childless character is this one. From the description I think she's supposed to be a Childfree-by-choice person? Which given that you're literally stuck in a breeding farm in this world she's probably depressed as hell, and looks like it. She's basically living the life Reddit r/childfree users like to pretend they are.