Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Michigan, USA

A lawsuit has been filed to change our state law that says absentee ballots must be received by the time polls close on election day to be counted. The filers wish to change it to count ballots that are postmarked on time.
(archive)

A group representing Michigan builders and contractors has filed a lawsuit against Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D)'s executive orders regarding new anti-coronavirus measures in their line of work.
(archive)
Detroit Free Press said:
[W]hile state law makes violation of a governor's emergency order a misdemeanor — potentially punishable by a $500 fine and 90 days in jail — in her orders, including one issued as recently as Thursday, she said violation of the work rules could be considered a violation of Michigan Occupational Safety and Health regulations.
Those are potentially punishable by fines of up to $70,000 a day for a company in willful violation.
"Not only is the governor increasing penalties without legislative approval, she is also transferring enforcement power from local elected officials, such as sheriffs and prosecutors, to unelected bureaucrats under her control," the Mackinac Center Legal Foundation said in a news release.

The Capri Drive-in theatre, in Branch County, has reopened in defiance of Governor Whitmer's orders, A police report has been sent to the county prosecutor's office, who are reviewing it.
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State Rep. Karen Whitsett, D-Detroit, was censured by her fellow Democrats after praising President Donald Trump for his recommendation of hydroxychloroquine, which she credits for her recovery from the Coronavirus. She is now suing them and Governor Whitmer for defamation and violating her freedom of speech.
Some highlights:
Mlive said:
As a result of the censure, Whitsett says she has been “ousted” by the party, and the defendants continue to hinder her ability to do her job. An example, the lawsuit claims Whitsett arranged for 388,680 meals to be delivered to her constituents in Detroit, and the defendants refused to allow her the help of the Michigan Army National Guard to distribute the meals as previously arranged.
Jonathan Kinloch, the chair of the 13th Congressional District Democratic Party Organization said he had not been served with the lawsuit and had yet to read it when reached for comment.
“It’s probably full of banter and bullcrap," Kinloch said.
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“She has shown herself not to remain interested in being a Democrat. Maybe she should consider the suggestion from President Donald J Trump, to become a Republican," Kinloch said. “If it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, then it’s a Republican duck.”
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The suit accuses Whitmer of being aware of a conspiracy to publicly shame, defame and humiliate Whitsett. Whitmer did not try to stop the scheme and actually prompted it, making her liable for damages, the lawsuit claims.
(archive)

SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN
Shelter-in-place order from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1, Friday, May 15, May 28, but May 22 for the farthest north, May 21, kind of? May 1, maybe? (archive May 21) (executive order saved on KF) . The Republican-controlled legislature has refused to extend Governor Whitmer's emergency authority. Governor Whitmer insists her emergency orders are all still in effect (Rundown on the laws).
State attorney general Dana Nessel (D) is also leaving enforcement of the stay-at-home order to local discretion until the courts weigh in on it (archive). She has stated Governor Whitmer's orders are valid and are to be enforced (archive). The legislature is not calling for civil disobedience at this time (archive).
The legislature has filed a lawsuit against the governor (archive). Oral arguments were heard May 15 (archive). The judge's decision is pending, but will most likely be appealed either way.
State senate leader Mike Shirkey (R) is also supporting a petition drive to change the law. Such a petition would require 340,047 signatures to be collected. It would be veto-proof if approved by the legislature, and would go on the next general election ballot if denied by them (archive 1, archive 2, archive 3).
U. S. Rep Paul Mitchell (R - The Thumb) has filed a lawsuit independently against Governor Whitmer, in federal district court. Link, pdf on KF. He has also founded a committee to work on the petition recommended by Sen. Shirkey.
There have been at least ten other lawsuits against Governor Whitmer's actions during this crisis, mostly regarding the shut-down order, in various stages of progress and in various courts (summary of eight of them). However, "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" are suspended until the end of the states of emergency and disaster. Executive order, and thus in limbo. (archive).

OTHER SHUTDOWNS
Recap from NPR
Major protest at the State Capitol April 15 (A&N thread). Minor protest outside Governor's Mansion April 23 (archive). Protest at the State Capitol April 30 (A&N Thread). Protest at the capitol May 14 (archive).
Auto manufacturing resuming May 18. (archive)

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment reached 22.7% in April. (Archive - May 20). It should be lower now, as factories, etc. reopen.
Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel is slowly creeping back up (website).
The State is facing a $2.5 billion budget shortage (archive).

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a mistake in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive). Article on results, May 8 (archive).
Elective surgeries are banned. Maybe? Who knows. If/when in effect, abortions were not included in the ban (thread).
At any rate, hospitals are resuming elective surgeries.
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
State of affairs May 5 - about half as many hospitalized cases and ICU cases as on April 12 (archive).
Detroit field hospital, capacity 1,000, closed. Never had many more than 20 at any time. (archive, May 7).
The state is going to add "probable" deaths from Coronavirus to our death tolls. (archive - May 20)

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). It was an executive order. Who knows if it's still valid?
Detroit shootings up, but most other crime down (archive - April 30); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. (Still valid???) Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Multiple sherrifs from the rural north to Detroit suburbs have stated they will not be enforcing or not strictly enforcing parts or the entirety of the order (archive).

OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services reviews deaths and adds overlooked cases to the count three days a week: Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Recovery counts are updated on Saturdays.
31 deaths were added yesterday.

MDHHS said:
Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

34,178 confirmed / 4,043 dead
34,083 confirmed / 4,030 dead yesterday
(i.e. 13 new deaths, down 5 from this day last week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

19,735 confirmed / 1,115 dead
19,427 confirmed / 1,099 dead yesterday
(i.e. 16 new deaths, down 4 from this day last week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

53,913 confirmed / 5,158 dead
53,510 confirmed / 5,129 dead yesterday
(i.e. 29 new deaths, down 9 from this day last week)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 20.
We were locked down from: March 24 (until April 30? May 21),
Masks have been mandatory in stores since: April 27 (until April 30?).

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
26*** / 4 / 14 / 77*** / 26 / 22*** / 13 = 226***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 19, 43, and 31 statewide deaths, respectively, were added on these days upon State review. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.

One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store. Multiple suspects are in custody (archive, A&N thread).
 
Changed commissary day from Saturday to first thing Friday morning. Got there just after 8:30. Place was open, not many people there. Plenty of toilet paper, paper towels, and water. Good supply of beef and chicken, some pork. Very few thin/empty shelves now. Got some nice cherries again this week. Price still the same. Bought some more stuff for the reserve. Getting something every week now. And my usual bagger was there. All good.

Added: Got four 12-packs of soda. Being a holiday weekend, all soda is $2.50 a 12-pack. Usually $3-$4.

I wouldn't go to Baltimore, either, but the President should go wherever he pleases. He's doing the nation's work. The "mayor" can go eat shit.


 
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Canadian doctor gives testimony to the Canadian Senate

Part 1
https://archive.vn/79IPT

Part 2
https://archive.vn/Jy3re


Part 3
https://archive.vn/XqnEB


Part 4
https://archive.vn/AU2hk


On the other hand, Politico makes the case that the virus presents almost no risk to people under 60 and locking them down makes little sense now the virus has passed its peak

https://archive.vn/azbQS


Here's the study he mentions which breaks down deaths by age range and date

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-death-data-in-england-update-22nd-may/
https://archive.vn/dwVCe

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SVT interviewed a so-called "unaccompanied minor" from Afghanistan who gets to stay here thanks to the infamous gymnasium law and asked him what he thought about the Corona crisis. According to the Swedish tax agency, this man is 20 years old http://archive.is/nlk06
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Hamid needs a job to stay in Sweden - "Very difficult to get a job right now"
Hamid is in high school in Borlänge. After taking the student, he has six months to get a job so that he can stay in Sweden. Something that is harder now than it has been for a long time.
One Monday afternoon we set up a microphone and a camera at Sveatorget in Borlänge - Hamid Karimi was one of those who came to talk about how he was affected by the corona pandemic.
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Our city is still on lockdown(-ish) but suburban bars were allowed to open as of midnight today, and one bar did just that. I might give a friend a call and head out - I've been inside for the last month and one-half and it's starting to really get to me. As afraid I am of getting sick (pre-existing condition) , I am going nuts sitting in this damn house.

Our governor is the ex-school superintendent for my city, and he promised transparency from the get-go. Except he had to be sued to release his office's emails and they would only give the news (the people who filed) one days' worth. The same governor "elected' when the weed referendum was also added to the ballot (driving higher minority turnout), and where boxes full of 'absentee' Dem ballots were inexplicably found after midnight in Milwaukee. Our county health commissioner showed up on the video conference aired live yesterday like this:

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Don't know what she was thinking with that thing on her head. Cracked me up.
As a former Chicagoan I can tell you this is your government on niģgers.
 
Lol I didn't see this yet.



New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo sent more than 4,300 recovering coronavirus patients to nursing homes across the Empire State, according to the Associated Press.
 
Honestly. 1) I don't think the CDC is right about surface spread. So we'll see.
I think this is another example of the biggest issue during the pandemic: too much conflicting information or misinformation. Because the CDC was quick to talk about surface spread being a concern, all kinds of people reacted to that and started taking precautions. Now that the CDC has apparently backtracked, those same poeple are still wanting to take precautions just in case the CDC is wrong. Even if time is of the essence in dealing with pandemics, organizations such as the CDC and WHO need to take their time before issuing directives that command people to take specific precautions to reduce their risk of infection.

Either way, I think certain hotspots are bad, and it sounds like other places are totally unaffected.
I think it all depends on how many people had been taking proper care of themselves before the pandemic broke out. Apart from those with health concerns that make them more susceptible to COVID-19, those with poor hygiene and lifestyle choices seem to be the ones most effected.

A lawsuit has been filed to change our state law that says absentee ballots must be received by the time polls close on election day to be counted. The filers wish to change it to count ballots that are postmarked on time.
Yuck. This is a bad idea. Not only do votes currently have to be in by the closing time (8:00 PM, usually, I believe), but there is a limited number of days for certifying the results. What happens in areas with poor mail service where people send ballots by mail and they never arrive until well after the certification deadline? This opens up a nasty can of worms and is why many people didn't like the constitutional amendment that passed because it had too much extraneous crap in it besides allowing for no-reason absentee voting. Since it passed, it was only a matter of time before someone tried to game the system or find a loophole to exploit. *sigh*

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, D-Detroit, was censured by her fellow Democrats after praising President Donald Trump for his recommendation of hydroxychloroquine, which she credits for her recovery from the Coronavirus. She is now suing them and Governor Whitmer for defamation and violating her freedom of speech.
As much as I doubt she'll win this suit, props to her for standing up for herself. While I don't think she's going to sing Trump's praises on a regular basis, the fact she was censured for thanking him for her recovery from COVID-19 was absolutely stupid. If the Dems further alienate her, it could be bad optics for the establishment to target a POC legislator. Sadly, though, everyone else in the party will toe the line and consider her persona non grata for daring to say anything good about the Trump administration.

Wait, you have to pay to park at your place of employment? Did I just step back into the 1880's or something?
Sadly, some places have no free parking available with the only option being paid parking somewhere close by.

Years ago while job-hunting, a consulting firm called me with a potential job opportunity that seemed like a good fit. I was given instructions to go to an office building in a downtown area where the only parking available was parking decks with a flat rate that was then $5-6 for the day. To finish the story, the company told me that they had to pull the job because funding for it fell through and that I shouldn't have been sent to see them. I then asked the consulting shop if I could get reimbursed for the $6 I was out for parking, but they never did pay me as promised after I sent them my receipt.
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Additional Michigan News:

Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick is being released from prison due to COVID-19 concerns. It appears he may still have to be kept on house arrest.

(Archive #1: Kwame Kirkpatrick article)

The US Attorney's office believes Kilpatrick shouldn't be pardoned.

(Archive #2: US Attorney article)

Michigan's overall stay at home order that was set to end May 28 has been extended two more weeks to June 12.
Free Press Article said:
She said while coronavirus cases and deaths are clearly declining, "we are not out of the woods yet."

"If we’re going to lower the chance of a second wave and continue to protect our neighbors and loved ones from the spread of this virus, we must continue to do our part by staying safer at home," she said in a statement first reported by the Free Press.
Given Whitmer's previous desire to have the order run through June or early July, it seems as if she's trying to get her wish two weeks at a time.

(Archive #3: Stay at Home Order article)

Finally, the Republicans have filed an appeal of yesterday's court ruling that upheld Governor Whitmer's current State of Emergency. They appeal asks for leave to appeal directly to the state's Supreme Court.

(Archive #4: Legislature Appeal article)

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If I were a Democrat, I'd be active in trying to get state IDs subsidized and free so that anyone can get them. You'd think with all of the free shit the left wants from the government, a $10 state ID would be the most reasonable and pragmatic to try to push on local congresspeople as a priority.

this is old but my state's non drivers license costs $10. ive asked local vocal agitators why they wont start a fund to pay for the poors' ids. never get an answer.

stupid question
do mask policies violate a constitutional right?

im seeing more doofuses say it does, but im not seeing it.
 
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For the record. I wouldn't necessarily hate that the test has no control group. RCTs (Randomized Control Trials) aren't always used when it comes to emergencies, for reasons explained later. Thing is. RCTs in vaccination tend to use pre-existing vaccines (what is refered to "best available treatment" trials) instead of placebo. Mostly because denying vaccination to large numbers of people you know will be exposed to a pathogen is... Not the most ethical prospect, to put it mildly. Which brings the question of what to do when no vaccine is available. This is a very hard to answer question with serious ramifications that we won't answer today.
Perhaps ask for volunteers who know they may receive a placebo in lieu of vaccine?
 
From a few family members who are medical providers in the hard hit NY area. The problem, the thing that is traumatizing them, especially the nurses, is that they are not being allowed to help them. Cuomo changed the rules. The nurses are basically being forced to stockpile patients and leave them to die. No CPR. No intervention. No basic care and treatments. One is a 30 years experienced NICU Nurse Practitioner. Her job for decades is caring for critical and dying babies. She has never encountered anything like this. and it’s destroying them. If you remember that tearful nurse video a couple of hundred pages back calling what they are doing in NYC Murder? She isn’t an outlier or lone loony. And it’s getting worse for the staff as the number of patients decreases, but the Barbaric rules that prevent them from delivering care remain. To add to this they are deeply resentful of the normies who want to go back to work and not starve. “How dare they after putting the nurses through this!”

Needless to say healthcare providers in the heart of the outbreaks are in some pretty fucked up mental spaces right now.
I don't have any reason to doubt Cuomo is a fucking re_tard but do you have a link to any these rules?
 
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Perhaps ask for volunteers who know they may receive a placebo in lieu of vaccine?

See. Alright. Let me explain the issue with that. Thing is, to prove it is effective... You're gonna have to expose the population to the pathogen. And now I mean, for Covid it wouldn't matter but let's put this one into context:

I remember I once read about a vaccine trial in africa. So, what they did is they gave half placebo half vaccine because they had no prior vaccine. And then they let people loose on the village and monitored them for a month. And marked down who got infected. Because there was a pretty nasty disease making its way through the village. I don't recall what it was but I remember they specifically mentioned treating all infecteds and ensuring their cure, so it was curable. And I recall it was an STD. Point is:

Even after paying for cure. You know. You might leave behind sequels. And there's some ethical ramifications. Which is why instead of directly injecting them STD juice they waited to see who got infected randomly and then saw the results. But now, let's imagine the disease you made a vaccine for is actually something without a cure. Let's imagine it's HIV. So. You're gonna have to inject half with HIV vaccine and half with placebo. And tell them "so we're gonna drop you lot on the nastiest shit ridden filthy town we found. The needles got aids, the whores got aids, every damned broken crystal on the street was bled on by aids hobos. And every pool in town is infected with aids and stingrays who also have aids. So half of you, we don't know which, got vaccinated. The other got a lollypop. And in like a month we're gonna see who is still alive. And if it turns out only the lolypop fellers died then we can call it a day. Sounds nice?

Yeah I think you can see how that'd be... ehm. Legaly, moraly and ethicaly dubious. Like that's some dr menguele shit dude. So, we got some exceptions for those cases. Namely so we can make vaccines without commiting genocide just to test them.

How do you guys feel about people around you calling social distancing the new normal since they say it'll last even after this is all over?
 
How do you guys feel about people around you calling social distancing the new normal since they say it'll last even after this is all over?
Good, people always had cooties before the China virus circus, I'll get fewer colds and whatnot.

Also its the end of "aww let me give you a hug" touchy feely nonsense. Don't put your hands on me random stranger.
 
Good, people always had cooties before the China virus circus, I'll get fewer colds and whatnot.

Also its the end of "aww let me give you a hug" touchy feely nonsense. Don't put your hands on me random stranger.
There is a huge downside: the economic costs will be staggering if this is the new normal.
 
Outside China

5,125,185 confirmed / 333,483 dead / 1,977,175 recovered

5017904 / 328262 / 1869429 yesterday

USA

1,600,723 confirmed / 95,972 dead / 350,135 Recovered JohnHopkins
1,600,135 confirmed / 95,991 dead / 403,201 recovered Infection2020

1577140 / 94702 / 298418 yesterday JohnHopkins
1588585 / 95425 / 382183 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

234,824 confirmed / 28,628 dead / 150,376 recovered

233037 / 27940 / 150376 yesterday

Italy

228,658 confirmed / 32,616 dead / 136,720 recovered

228006 / 32486 / 134560 yesterday

France

182,015 confirmed / 28,218 dead / 63,986 recovered

181951 / 28218 / 63976 yesterday

Germany

179,710 confirmed / 8,228 dead / 159,064 recovered

179021 / 8203 / 158087 yesterday
 
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