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Gehenna said:
I don't think he -can- admit it. If he does, then he admits he allowed a kangaroo court to occur without protest which wasted a ton of money and resulted in nothing less than a failed-coup.

If he doesn't, the result is only mildly less terrible. He has to pretend he didn't do the above, but acknowledges his own part in starting it.

Its basically the same result either way, with the only difference being knowing culpability.
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Ah, you meant right now. My bad. I interpreted what you said to include he was damned either way regarding the recusal, which I disagree with. If he had simply said "fuck you," who could actually stop him?
 
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Gehenna said:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Sessions gets to live in the unenviable position where by no matter what he does he looks bad.
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True, but like signing on to be the Dallas Cowboy's head coach, opting to head a Federal Agency is understood to be high risk and high reward. You may become a folk hero, but you also may get fired in disgrace through no fault of your own if the organization you nominally run shits the bed for all to see.
 
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X Prime said:
Ah, you meant right now. My bad. I interpreted what you said to include he was damned either way regarding the recusal, which I disagree with. If he had simply said "fuck you," who could actually stop him?
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Supreme court.

I do mean right now, but on the recusal he could have been forced. It'd be a thorny battle, but one I'd say he'd eventually lose. The precedent is clear, a conflict of interest requires recusal and he had a laundry list of said conflicts.

Not that it made much difference. Had he decided to stay on and somehow avoided a bitchslap from SCOTUS he'd still have been a spineless wet blanket which would require at most that the Mueller team just be less publicly corrupt.


TowinKarz said:
True, but like signing on to be the Dallas Cowboy's head coach, opting to head a Federal Agency is understood to be high risk and high reward. You may become a folk hero, but you also may get fired in disgrace through no fault of your own if the organization you nominally run shits the bed for all to see.
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The thing is, you can play that game without ignominious defeat. If, in response to that organization shitting the bed, you announce a review and change and honestly mean to do so. Its going from the frying pan to the fire, and is effectively playing a high risk game to salvage your high risk game, but if you have the balls, spine, and courage to do it... it'd be possible.

Sessions does not have any of the three.
 
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Gehenna said:
I don't think he -can- admit it. If he does, then he admits he allowed a kangaroo court to occur without protest which wasted a ton of money and resulted in nothing less than a failed-coup.

If he doesn't, the result is only mildly less terrible. He has to pretend he didn't do the above, but acknowledges his own part in starting it.

Its basically the same result either way, with the only difference being knowing culpability.
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That's kinda weird for him to do since it's already accepted by Republicans that it was a failed coup or kangaroo court type bullshit. Sessions is trying to work against several years of Trump's messaging on the Mueller probe.

He'd be better off admitting Trump's framing of the subject is solidified in the minds of voters (at least Republican voters) and move on to trashing Mueller, Rosenstein and others along with Trump. Has Sessions ever even criticized Rosenstein's scope memo?

He could even bring up how he himself got targeted for a possible investigation for BS reasons.
That third scope memo also “described an FBI investigation opened before the Special Counsel’s appointment into ‘allegations that [then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions] made false statements to the United States Senate’ and confirmed the Special Counsel’s authority to investigate that matter.” Sessions has never been charged with wrongdoing.
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Gehenna said:
Supreme court.

I do mean right now, but on the recusal he could have been forced. It'd be a thorny battle, but one I'd say he'd eventually lose. The precedent is clear, a conflict of interest requires recusal and he had a laundry list of said conflicts.

Not that it made much difference. Had he decided to stay on and somehow avoided a bitchslap from SCOTUS he'd still have been a spineless wet blanket which would require at most that the Mueller team just be less publicly corrupt.
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That's what I'm saying. He could have at least fought it. The left fights everything even when they're wrong and precedent shows they're wrong, why couldn't Sessions?

That's why he has no leg to stand on.
 
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Wake up, Drumpf supporters! He's secretly really very smart and not stupid like you wanted!

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PepsiVanilla said:
Wake up, Drumpf supporters! He's secretly really very smart and not stupid like you wanted!

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Who wants to tell him that the hugbox sites and subreddits he hangs out on probably don't have many non-democrats on them for him to fool to begin with? Because we all know that he has zero intention of actually going to any icky site with racists all over the place.
 
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Iwasamwillbe said:
I know at least one person here who says he's voting for Biden because Biden won't put conservatives in as Supreme Court justices. As far as I know, that's all the reasons he's voting for Biden despite everything else about him (other than Orange Man Bad, of course); because he's deathly terrified of a majority-conservative Supreme Court.
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A large number of people voted for Trump specifically because they were worried about what kind of leftist whackjobs Shrillary was going to nominate to the courts in general, and the Supreme Court specifically.

Admittedly, I didn't buy it, because I thought his Federalist Society checklist of potential nominees was too good to be true. How happy I was to be wrong about that.
 
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Jigglyjogglers said:
Only after she lost. It's easy to forget that back when the Democrat voter base thought she was inevitable they were pretty down on her too. They didn't think Trump was going to win but they were not actually looking forward to Hillary... on election night a lot of people I know who have now been utterly and completely consumed by TDS actually admitted they had a hard time actually checking the box for Hillary, at the time she was seen by them as only marginally better. There was a lot of grumbling about "warmonger", "scandal", a lot of commentary on her less-than-approachable personality...

Her deification and the choir songs that she would have saved the nation and led us into a new golden age only came after they realized they weren't actually going to get her. Much like @TowinKarz said about Biden, at this point the praise and worship for Hillary is not about her as an individual, but rather about the praise and worship of the concept that Trump lost. They lionize her and turn her into the concept of a Perfect Democrat President as a way to emphasize that Trump is not supposed to be allowed to exist.
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Solid Disagree.
Plenty of people were clearly jizzing themselves about getting to bring in talented, hardworking, powerful, tough Hilary Clinton because it was her turn and sure she wasn't perfect but no one is as the first female president after the first black president, showing the world how woke America was and this was surely going to be the end of white males and the KKK for realsies, and she was clearly the best and most qualified candidate in the field and America definitely couldn't do better.

When you started bringing up that her closet was full of skeletons, the fact she'd been up to nefarious shit for two solid decades with no breaks, they would do this half- hearted "well ok sure you have a point, but all politicians that sort of thing, and she's still better than Trump no matter what!". Most people were only pretending they weren't full deep-throating clinton so people wouldn't bring up inconvenient truths or they wouldn't have to fight and die on the hill of when Clinton was the Secretary of State for the most open, transparent, and scandal-free presidency of ever, the fact she disobeyed congress by not providing a list of the Clinton Global Foundation's donors was no big deal, as was the fact she got no serious repremand or censor, or the fact Bill had this habit of getting paid 6-figures for speeches right before the State Department issued rulings favorable to the audience.
 
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heathercho said:
Trump can only win the 2020 election if he ‘cheats’, says Michael Moore

"I think Joe Biden will win by five million.”

:story: And you think Trump will cheat... how?
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The cope is real.

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Surely this will be the end of ORANGEMANBAD!

How dare he exercise, outdoors!
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Obama went golfing not long after Michael Michelle sent robocalls to millions telling them to stay home. What's your point?
 
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MsStevieMarie said:
People actually thought Hillary was their lord and saviour.
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Jigglyjogglers said:
Only after she lost. [...]
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You gotta differentiate between different groups of democrat voters.

The "Ivy League educated, religiously feminist, middle-aged White/Jewish women" contingent that dominates MSM newspaper columns, started to fangirl for Hillary like she was the second coming of their messiah, from the moment she announced her candidacy.

But there were also many other Democrat voter blocks, from moderates to socialists, for whom Hillary was just a "lesser evil", i.e. someone you gotta vote for while holding your nose in order to defeat Trump.
 
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