The cringiest things about gamers

[-4ZURE-]

Hard Truth time : Any Popular Console is going to have a massive pile of Shovelware shit.

Do you know how much fucking garbage there was on the PS2?

It’s not even a popular console thing. The Wii U was a treasure trove of trash, yet somehow many will defend it. I don’t get the Nintendo community sometimes. They rag on the Wii and Switch for not having quality, yet the same people will say the Wii U was misunderstood and better.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

It’s not even a popular console thing. The Wii U was a treasure trove of trash, yet somehow many will defend it. I don’t get the Nintendo community sometimes. They rag on the Wii and Switch for not having quality, yet the same people will say the Wii U was misunderstood and better.

It is not about defending it, pointing out "Piles of Trash" games is stupid in itself. Shit how many stupid Movie games existed on the NES.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Still haven't seen Esports Fags riot over an Esports match like "Real" Sports fans do so lets count or blessings there.

Not true, e-sports dudes have shot up places like the Madden guy.

 

[-4ZURE-]

It is not about defending it, pointing out "Piles of Trash" games is stupid in itself. Shit how many stupid Movie games existed on the NES.

You're right, I’m just saying that many gamers will use it as an argument without realizing their console is the same. I use the Wii U as an example as it was pretty well known for trash outside of Nintendo titles. The same people who hate the Wii and say the Wii U was an underrated gem, will ignore the Wii U or downplay, while saying the Wii was the worst of shovel ware. It’s just stupid and hypocritical. The argument itself shouldn’t exist as it is impossible to have a console without trash.

 

[Marissa Moira]

You're right, I’m just saying that many gamers will use it as an argument without realizing their console is the same. I use the Wii U as an example as it was pretty well known for trash outside of Nintendo titles. The same people who hate the Wii and say the Wii U was an underrated gem, will ignore the Wii U or downplay, while saying the Wii was the worst of shovel ware. It’s just stupid and hypocritical. The argument itself shouldn’t exist as it is impossible to have a console without trash.

Wii had a massive amount of shovelware to good game ratio though. Like it was way worse than normal because it was a fad.

Like it clogged shelves with garbage like Dora the Explorer and kept quality titles from seeing the light of day in store. There's like 8 Myth Maker titles for the systems and the whole series is garbage.

 

[-4ZURE-]

Wii had a massive amount of shovelware to good game ratio though. Like it was way worse than normal because it was a fad.

True.

I was taking this from a Nintendo fan standpoint, and right now there seems to be a push to have the Wii U be this underrated platform. I find it weird as the Wii U was just as bad, if not worse, when attracting shovel ware. The Wii U was the closest Nintendo have ever been to Steam, with tons of rushed and terrible indie games created. I just find the narrative weird since that was the big retraction of the Wii and now sometimes Switch, when the underdog may actually be worse.

To be fair, I may be wrong. I cannot always follow the Nintendo crowd. I think a small group just likes to over glorify the failures as something special while saying successes were bad. I just get annoyed a5 some arguments as they aren’t mutually exclusive like some may believe. The Wii was bad with shovel ware, but other Nintendo systems have been able to be on par.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Hard Truth time : Any Popular Console is going to have a massive pile of Shovelware shit.

Do you know how much fucking garbage there was on the PS2?

True, and you also had a lot of shovelware games on the PS1 for the exact same reason, particularly in the later years of the PS1's lifespan (1999-2001) when it had established itself as the dominant console and a lot of hype was building for the PS2.

Wii had a massive amount of shovelware to good game ratio though. Like it was way worse than normal because it was a fad.

Like it clogged shelves with garbage like Dora the Explorer and kept quality titles from seeing the light of day in store. There's like 8 Myth Maker titles for the systems and the whole series is garbage.

This is also true, and the only other major consoles I can think of that had more shovelware titles overall than the Wii would be the Atari 2600, the original NES, and the PS2. Coincidentally, they were all the most dominant console of their generation at the time.

But the PS2 and the NES also had a lot of truly landmark titles that reshaped the entire video game industry and video games as a medium. The PS2 alone had stuff like Grand Theft Auto III, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy X, and Metal Gear Solid 2, and all those were just in the first full year of the console's lifespan.

The Wii didn't quite have the array of groundbreaking titles the PS2 and NES did, and most of its importance in the video game history books has more to do with its then-novel motion control gimmick, the fairly low price at launch that helped it win the 7th Gen console war right out the gate, and the wave of casual gamers it attracted thanks to the fad.

But because the Wii was very cheap, sold a lot of units, and had a strong casual following in the late 2000's, a lot of smaller developers made a lot of shovelware games for it.

 

[Just wandering]

@Berrakh ugh you make me remember the cringy anti SJW side in the gaming community.
ex: one of the earliest drama about mighty no9 the community manager did make some ''concept art'' on beck being a girl. People did go apeshit.
Or the more recent ''mortally challenged'' joke in doom eternal. Everyone wet itself at the idea that ID was becoming ''anti-sjw''. No they aren't doom always did have a dark humor

But this isn't the worst part before gamergate we all know Anita Sarkeesian who did a kickstarter on sexist in video game. It's fine to disagree with the concept. Actually the best thing to do is just ignore her. But no, all the ''gamer'' harassed her and some even did a game on newground and the goal is punch her. This idiot know how many martyr point this game worth? At least 5000. And those dumb motherfucker just proved her cause to be legitimate because they pestering her non stop. What did they expect from this professional victim? That she will recoil in fear and never use all this drama to empower her cause? dumbasses...

It"s like those ''gamer'' have a irrational fear that the sjw will destroy gaming as we know it. First they can't their fanbase is way too niche. Plus if a game use poor ''progessivism'' in sake of wokeness it's usually doomed to comercial failure hence: get woke get broke

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I think the Wii U gaining this "We've been too harsh on it" mentality because of the changes the Switch has brought in.

Wii U had free online. Switch charges for it and didn't do a damn thing to make the quality any better.

Wii U had Virtual Console. Switch has a subscription service only for past games.

Wii U had the enduring Nintendium quality with its hardware. The Switch's controllers constantly drift and the initial model has questionable battery life.

Wii U had a decent slew of new 1st party titles. Switch's lineup thus far contains a LOT of ports or upgraded iterations of Wii U games (Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Smash Ultimate, ect.).

Not to say the Wii U is suddenly a saint, but the reasons for the strange turnabout of opinion aren't completely unfounded.

 

[Y2K Baby]

When they're trannies.

 

[Timmy Testicles]

the worst part about gamers is the whole "gamer community" aspect. a lot of people like movies. for many people, movies are their hobby. making movies, watching movies, talking about movies. but they don't call themselves "moviers", they're just people who like movies. same thing with reading, cooking, listening to music. imo it's one of the main things holding back games, and why playing games is still seen as a childish/bad hobby.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Not true, e-sports dudes have shot up places like the Madden guy.

Okay that is one, "Real" sports have a riot every time a team that hasn't won in a decade wins a championship..that and Soccer Riots being a thing.

the worst part about gamers is the whole "gamer community" aspect. a lot of people like movies. for many people, movies are their hobby. making movies, watching movies, talking about movies. but they don't call themselves "moviers",

Yes they do, they call themselves Cinephiles, just like there are Car guys and Stats Nerds in Sports.

Actually the best thing to do is just ignore her. But no, all the ''gamer'' harassed her and some even did a game on newground and the goal is punch her.

And people did the same thing with Jack Thompson, but nobody had a problem with that.

I think the Wii U gaining this "We've been too harsh on it" mentality because of the changes the Switch has brought in.

I would say like the Gamecube it has more to do with "looking back in retrospect it wasn't as bad as the click bait said it was."

 

[c-no]

Watching incel gamers get super butthurt whenever a non-white/gay/trans character gets put in a game is pretty cringe.

I'd get a non-white homo trans character being shit if the writing for them was shit but then again, REEEEEing at them simply being in a game is cringe as all hell.

Too many gamers are too cynical and absurdly hard to please, a game basically has to be absolute perfection to please some gamers otherwise it's shit, there's no middle ground.

It's basically an extreme bias against new games, for these kind of gamers if a game is new, it's shit, it's never as good as games used to be, it's serious rose colored glasses.

I think there's mainly two groups of these kind of cynical gamers, those that are stuck in the 8 bit and 16 bit console eras and those are stuck in the late 90s and early 2000s PC gaming scene.

I love both of those eras of games as well but you have to accept that things change and one shouldn't let nostalgia make you unable to appreciate the present.

I just don't understand calling yourself a gamer and making it your number 1 hobby but hating most of what you play, why are you wasting your time and money?

I'm not saying you should like everything that's out there, sometimes there are perfectly valid criticisms to make of something, but I just don't understand that extreme cynicism you see, where some gamers begrudgingly admit a game is good as if they'd rather complain and hate that they can't complain much. I just don't understand that at all.

When it comes to gamers in general, whether it's the cynics or the ResetERA type SJWs everyone needs to lighten the fuck up and learn how to have fun again.

For a cynical gamer, I wouldn't be surprised if they were slowly realizing their hobby was shit because everything is either following a fad or is pretty much just the same shit with a different logo or graphics in it and the games they played no longer gives them that high for their fix. As for having fun, that's gonna be hard when one needs to sperg about a games story not being as how they wanted or how a crappy joke in a game exist, or how they didn't even get something such as this fine gentleman not getting his 3D Sonic Adventure.

Idk, always hated the term "gamer". Acting like it's something larger than people just playing video games to kill time.

Also "esports". I'll always hold them in the same regard as I do eating competitions.

With gamer, I can imagine that applying to something other than people playing video games to kill time, such as a person spending so much time playing video games you'd wonder if they do something with their time beyond hours a day of gaming, as with those doing "esports" or those doing hours of Warcraft and the like.

 

[WeWuzFinns]

Gamers are just drug addicts and console/hardware wars are just people comparing the size of their needles. Gaming is largely a waste of time, but at least try to have deep conversations with your mates if you do game. Copesole gamers always trying to minimize the advanges of superior hardware is cringe though.

 

[BananaSplit]

It was already said several times before on that thread, but platform wars are gay as hell. I can understand having a personal preference for certain systems but that shouldnt be a reason for shitposting.

Sad that their are still Vita owners that want games to come to the dead system. Vita fans are way more annoying than Dreamcast fans.

I dont exactly recall Vita users to be port beggars in general and I doubt they still are even to this day like you're describing them somehow (they would certainly pale against Switch owners on that regard) since the Vita officially died in its home country a year ago. I do admit however the few biggest fanboys were huge hoarders who bought every single game coming out of the Vita regardless of quality and then posted the photos of their collection on the internet. I assume that 'tism was born part the proprietary memory cards initially made hard to install more than a few games from the PSN store (and the 64GB card could only be imported) as well as the constant nogaems shitposting back in the day.

The hacking scene took an awfully long time to come to fruition though because everyone in the West bought the meme that the PSP was killed by piracy despite the DS was cracked open quite early too.

 

[SolidZone 26]

It was already said several times before on that thread, but platform wars are gay as hell. I can understand having a personal preference for certain systems but that shouldnt be a reason for shitposting.



I dont exactly recall Vita users to be port beggars in general and I doubt they still are even to this day like you're describing them somehow (they would certainly pale against Switch owners on that regard) since the Vita officially died in its home country a year ago. I do admit however the few biggest fanboys were huge hoarders who bought every single game coming out of the Vita regardless of quality and then posted the photos of their collection on the internet. I assume that 'tism was born part the proprietary memory cards initially made hard to install more than a few games from the PSN store (and the 64GB card could only be imported) as well as the constant nogaems shitposting back in the day.

The hacking scene took an awfully long time to come to fruition though because everyone in the West bought the meme that the PSP was killed by piracy despite the DS was cracked open quite early too.

Visit Gematsu and you will understand why everyone hate Vita fans. Every time a Japanese only Vita game gets localized for other platforms they gather like rats and complain/beg that the game is not getting localized for the Vita.

 

[BananaSplit]

Visit Gematsu and you will understand why everyone hate Vita fans. Every time a Japanese only Vita game gets localized for other platforms they gather like rats and complaining/beg that the game is not getting localized for the Vita.

Well a game that was originally developed for X system in Japan but did not come on it among the other platforms when ported to the West could be understandably frustrating (unless the localization was released way over the console's lifespan like Trails in the Sky 3rd). I regularly visit Gematsu for game news and haven't noticed any Vita beggar for years in the comments section I just quickly check in sometimes, it's mostly Switch beggars I'm seeing there.

But I'd argue that anyone who bought a Vita for japanese games and not have some language proficiency in nippon is a fool.

 

[SolidZone 26]

Well a game that was originally developed for X system in Japan but did not come on it among the other platforms when ported to the West could be understandably frustrating (unless the localization was released way over the console's lifespan like Trails in the Sky 3rd). I regularly visit Gematsu for game news and haven't noticed any Vita beggar for years in the comments section I just quickly check in sometimes, it's mostly Switch beggars I'm seeing there.

But I'd argue that anyone who bought a Vita for japanese games and not have some language proficiency in nippon is a fool.

These games are late ports. Vita fans refuse to accept the reality that the Vita failed and is dead. They still expect new and old games to be localized for the system. If a Japanese Vita game will get localized at this point they will be on PC, switch and PS4 not the Vita as their is no money to be made on the Vita.

 

[-4ZURE-]

Alright, time to not talk about the Wii.

Another thing that sucks about gamers is the forced on opinions and poor characterizations. This came up when watching videos from members of the Sonic community, and I have to say that they ring true. The community talked about how online influencers have an affect to make everyone believe Sonic is bad. This mainly effects Sonic Adventure as people like Egoraptor will show off the game to someone new to it, then brakes the game as much as possible just to prove that it is poorly designed. The issue being that one has to really go out of their way to trigger the things he is doing, but he acts like it’s a normal part of gameplay. The affect of influencers can be downright harmful to gaming as many will paint non-existent narratives to prove x game is bad.

This then leads to many communities or games being unjustly screwed over. It can also stop a franchise from going forward properly. One example would be Super Smash Bros.. Thanks to the Melee fanboys painting a narrative that Brawl is the worse thing ever, now Smash has just become bland as the team is so focused on esports that they won’t even attempt another proper adventure mode. Smash has been watered down to its core, loosing so many modes in the process to please the Melee esports crowd.

Basically, influencers can be terrible and really hurt many big titles just because the title wasn’t what they wanted. They perpetuate huge narratives that x was always bad. These narratives can then be harmful for even the company as evidenced by SEGA which can never figure out what to do with Sonic as every style just gets bashed by big YouTubers as not good, never good, etc..

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I don't get the obsession with those "Insert game here" special edition consoles. Like, why would wanna buy a new ps4 just for the spiderman logo?
I'm not judging anybody for how they spend their money but I know a sonyfucker who owns 10 of these things.
FUCKING TEN

The other day I found my pokemon white special edition ds while doing spring cleaning, it has Reshiram on it. Pretty cool looking, but I wish I had found it before I learned about JustinRPG.