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U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers
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I hate nogs as much as the next sentient being, but if the police officer's kneeling on that guy's neck truly did kill him, then the officer should face criminal charges.
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Was seriously about to come in and make a snarky jogger comment, then saw the guy was already cuffed and face down when the cop did this. It's pretty clear cut.
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The cause of death was covid-19
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If you can say "I can't breathe" you can breathe. Dumb motherfuckers don't know how vocal cords work.
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Good thing they didn't. He got put in a choke hold for resisting arrest.If a cop gives you a lawful order, in Eric's case "put your hands behind your back you are under arrest" because he was selling loosies, you must comply. If you don't you get an extra charge and they will then force compliance.
It isn't the cops escalating shit. It is non-compliance forcing their hands. "He said no. Horrors. He found out the secret phrase that removes our authority. I guess there will be no arresting today. On your way good sir." Doesn't work that way. You comply, shut the fuck up, and get a fucking lawyer. That's how you handle cops, in court. You won't win by escalation on the street.
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New York City? The mayor not sending cops after people who don't pay their tithes to His Lordship on time and in full? What alternate reality do you live in?
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Sure is great to pay a cops salary so they can book and process a nig selling loosies. NYC must be crime free if this crime of minor tax evasion needs 6 officers to show up.
Just write up a citation and take care of some real crime. No need to escalate it up to an arrest just because the mayor didn't get his 50 cents.
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You'd be surprised. Most suspects are extremely violent even when cuffed. You never hear all the cases of cops shot or stabbed by what they thought was a compliant or subdued suspect.
It's like the whole "why didn't they shoot his limbs" complaint in an officer shooting. Nothing less than a killshot stops a violent attacker; anything less than that gives them a good ten to twenty adreniline fueled seconds to do whatever they want to whomever is in reach. It sucks but it is reality. Humans are extremely good at taking at least one person down with them.
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Quick googling takes me to the officer down memorial page. For the year of 2019 they had 147 deaths listed. Mind you that list contains not only gun fire, and vehicular assault but also 9/11 linked cancer, automobile crash and heart attack (alot of heart attacks listed...)
I feel like if they can't take down a single man with 4 officers present without a death then what are they doing wrong? Sure criminals fight and in those cases they are empowered to fight back, to death if the situation warrants it.
But look at this case. 4 armed officers present , and a man who is unarmed, handcuffed and laying down.
How do you fuck that up so badly?
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I'll say, I'm glad phone videos exist nowadays. Now fuckers like the cops who killed this guy can possibly face justice (if it ends up like Garner's case, likely not), at least in the public eye.
The cop who did it might face some time (2 years or less), might not. The other 3 idiots around him definitely won't face more than a fine, if that.
Forget race being a factor here, cops should not be using unnecessary force like this. It's good that people can record shit like this with something as accessible as a cell phone regardless of whether or not it sparks a giant media firestorm over racial profiling and whatnot. It's better that this video exists to get the four bastards in this video some scrutiny than it not to exist, in the long run.
The cop who did it might face some time (2 years or less), might not. The other 3 idiots around him definitely won't face more than a fine, if that.
Forget race being a factor here, cops should not be using unnecessary force like this. It's good that people can record shit like this with something as accessible as a cell phone regardless of whether or not it sparks a giant media firestorm over racial profiling and whatnot. It's better that this video exists to get the four bastards in this video some scrutiny than it not to exist, in the long run.
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You can't open up a hotdog stand in NYC without a mountain of paperwork. You think they are going to let a guy with a rap sheet a mile long open up a questionably legal sidewalk business? Do you even know what selling loosies is actually about? Hint: it's not about selling cigarettes Do you think a guy can make a living selling no-tax cigarettes one at a time? Really? Are you that fucking stupid?
Why do you think Giuliani started that whole "quality-of-life" policing thing? Because the minor crimes were a smokescreen that the major crimes hide behind. Whoever ran that block had Garner as one of his employees and he was some kind of lookout/security/enforcer and was given the loosie-selling business as an excuse to be out there.
That's why the NYPD goes after piddly little shit like that.
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Then go after the block captain running it. Not processing some small fry. 6 officers and associated resources for some guy who had less then 100 cigs on him (this is from the officers report).
According to bystanders the cops only showed up because Garner just broke up a fight.
They make their quotas going after the small cases that don't fight back while ignoring the bigger targets because that will require real police work. Tackle the real problems.
But nope, can't be bothered to do that. Gotta put some low level nothing into a prohibited choke hold. for fuck sake, they couldn't even lawfully apprehend him with 6 people there. Fucking incompetent
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It's easier to resist than it is to take someone in. Reality is a tough place to live, I know.
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Just watched the full video. The cop is pinning the guy to the ground by the neck with his full body-weight directly on the guy's jugular vein. It was disturbing watching the officer interpret the guy's death throes as 'resistance' and press even harder directly on his jugular vein and continue to do so for several more minutes while the guy is unresponsive and his breathing has ceased, until paramedics arrive and drag his limp floppy body off on a stretcher.
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lol, they fired all four that quickly? That's a great way to eviscerate confidence and morale in any group of people let alone cops. I guess we're going to be seeing more videos of youths curb stomping white people in broad daylight outside Target Field in the future. Fuck the Twin Cities.
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That doesn't answer how 4 officers can't manage to take in a unarmed, handcuffed, prone individual without a death.
What fucking resistance is he doing? Wiggling? The worm?
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His skin color.
Tough on crime doesn't mean full force on petty shit like this.
No wonder cop distrust and crime is out of control in this country.
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Will wait for more details before judging, but given that the officier holding the black guy feels that he can turn his eyes away from him and look at the camera, while pinning him with his entire body weight on the guy's throat..
Yeah, this sounds like an irresponsible use of force. I would not hold my breath for firings, but clearly steps need to be taken, after a thorough investigation.
I wonder what Nick Rekieta take on this will be?
Edit: A typo.
Yeah, this sounds like an irresponsible use of force. I would not hold my breath for firings, but clearly steps need to be taken, after a thorough investigation.
I wonder what Nick Rekieta take on this will be?
Edit: A typo.
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I'm going to hold off judgement until the coroner's report gets released. Could easily be this guy was high on crack or PCP which accelerated his heart rate, leading to him having a fatal heart attack while on the ground.
A big guy like that who is flying on some kind of upper can be difficult to restrain, even for four officers. There have been guys on PCP who kept on fighting even after having been shot several times. It's easy to say "Why didn't the cops do X or Y" when you've had no experience in law enforcement. Pinning the neck like that is pretty standard because it's usually pretty safe and it makes it more difficult for the perp to get leverage to either run or keep on fighting. A perp can still be a threat even with his hands cuffed behind his back. Officers have lost their lives to cuffed perps, which is why tactics like pinning the neck started being used in the first place. Pinning the back can actually be more dangerous than pinning the neck because the perp's lungs and diaphragm are being compressed, making it difficult to breathe. As others have said: if he can talk, he can breathe.
"Why didn't they use three cuffs and hogtie him?" Firstly, cuffs for the wrist are not designed to go around ankles. It's extremely painful and often the loops won't fit. That's why they make shackles. But hogtying is usually only used in limited circumstances because many people see it as dehumanizing. It can also lead to injury of the perp either from them fighting their restraints, or when lifting the perp to place them in a vehicle. Broken bones, dislocated joints, lacerated skin, potentially dropping the perp...then you've just given them ammunition to get out of their charges and sue you and your department.
A big guy like that who is flying on some kind of upper can be difficult to restrain, even for four officers. There have been guys on PCP who kept on fighting even after having been shot several times. It's easy to say "Why didn't the cops do X or Y" when you've had no experience in law enforcement. Pinning the neck like that is pretty standard because it's usually pretty safe and it makes it more difficult for the perp to get leverage to either run or keep on fighting. A perp can still be a threat even with his hands cuffed behind his back. Officers have lost their lives to cuffed perps, which is why tactics like pinning the neck started being used in the first place. Pinning the back can actually be more dangerous than pinning the neck because the perp's lungs and diaphragm are being compressed, making it difficult to breathe. As others have said: if he can talk, he can breathe.
"Why didn't they use three cuffs and hogtie him?" Firstly, cuffs for the wrist are not designed to go around ankles. It's extremely painful and often the loops won't fit. That's why they make shackles. But hogtying is usually only used in limited circumstances because many people see it as dehumanizing. It can also lead to injury of the perp either from them fighting their restraints, or when lifting the perp to place them in a vehicle. Broken bones, dislocated joints, lacerated skin, potentially dropping the perp...then you've just given them ammunition to get out of their charges and sue you and your department.
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Whatever he did, it’s unlikely that he deserved something as terrible as suffocating to death from someone kneeling on his neck.
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