U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Tim Buckley]

I was just replying to the notion that we have all the evidence we need.

Personally I think judgment should be held til all evidence comes in, but that seems to be the minority view in this thread.

Nobody is advocating to hung the cops involved immediatly, just for a lawful consequence that any regular person would be subjected to under the same circumstances given the facts and evidence.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Did you suck their dick afterwards you spineless cop simp?

Its cool that I was restraint, pinned, and harmed for something i didn't do because i talked to them later and went back to work like a good boy.

Calm down, Shaniqua.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I was just replying to the notion that we have all the evidence we need.

Personally I think judgment should be held til all evidence comes in, but that seems to be the minority view in this thread.

Yeah, let's have all evidence before we try them in a court of law. Fine

But what exactly is going to be shown in the video before the pin that will justify the cop having his knee on his neck for 7 mins?

If he was by himself and the guy was thrashing about, yeah i suppose arguments can be made for that type of pinning. But he was pinned by three other cops and restraint already.

Only conclusion, and maybe im wrong, is that Officer Kneeling didn't like having his authority challenged by the spectators and had to make a big show of force to everyone present.

 

[JohnDoe]

American cops in particular are extremely trigger happy and they are very good at protecting each other when they should be charged instead.

This issue is well hidden in general because the most vocal community about it are usually far left lunatics and race baiters who are so bent in making it a "fuck whites" narrative that they indirectly assist in keeping the horrifying status quo.

I try to take a very balanced view because I've seen it, I know it, but the trouble is that cops have to do a messy job with a lot of gray areas in it sometimes.

A lot of race-baiters and bleeding hearts don't want to acknowledge that sometimes the only thing that stops a violent criminal is force, and they see any degree of roughness as racist devilry. Add in the 'dindu nuffin' factor where nobody wants to hold people accountable for trying to fight cops (which cannot end well) and put all the blame on the cops when Jamal bruises his knuckles. Now of course this is amplified with hashtags and murder charges, which ruin lives and careers.

How do you think you'd respond if you knew that any task you did at work could be ruthlessly second-guessed after the fact by a group of antagonistic busybodies that would like nothing better than to put you in prison for profit (race-baiters) or political gain? I can't blame the police for becoming insular and covering for each other in that circumstance. Who else will?

This makes it harder to reform and remove bad cops, because there is no expectation for nuanced, proportionate response.

Nobody is advocating to hung the cops involved immediatly, just for a lawful consequence that any regular person would be subjected to under the same circumstances given the facts and evidence.

Regular people aren't uniformed LEOs, and aren't subject to the duties and powers attendant to that status. It isn't a fair comparison.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Calm down, Shaniqua.

If I said i was an officer would you roll over onto you back into a submissive pose like the bootlicker you are?

 

[Tim Buckley]

How do you think you'd respond if you knew that any task you did at work could be ruthlessly second-guessed after the fact by a group of antagonistic busybodies that would like nothing better than to put you in prison for profit (race-baiters) or political gain?

Probably by trying to stop throwing fuel into the fire and bothering to at least try some professionalism.

You will not make things better by proving them right and covering the ass of murderers inside your own force.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

KiwiFarms circa 1997: "Akshually, taking whatever you can find, like plungers and broom handles, and shoving them up a perp's ass is a completely common and effective restraint method. Failing that, crushing his balls with your hands and feet while he's cuffed can keep even perps hopped up on PCP under control. My friends and family have all used these techniques on me and we've laughed and gone out for beers and heroin after."

 

[SilkGnut]

Nobody is advocating to hung the cops involved immediatly, just for a lawful consequence that any regular person would be subjected to under the same circumstances given the facts and evidence.

That is... flagrantly untrue. There have been many posters saying that we have all the evidence that is needed, and anything else is extraneous.

Read the thread before making claims about what is in it.

Yeah, let's have all evidence before we try them in a court of law. Fine

But what exactly is going to be shown in the video before the pin that will justify the cop having his knee on his neck for 7 mins?

If he was by himself and the guy was thrashing about, yeah i suppose arguments can be made for that type of pinning. But he was pinned by three other cops and restraint already.

Only conclusion, and maybe im wrong, is that Officer Kneeling didn't like having his authority challenged by the spectators and had to make a big show of force to everyone present.

I do not know what the videos would show, given how I have not had access to them. Maybe things are absolutely as they seem to be, and that the officer killed the man in cold blood.

I just think judging situations based on a small clip of video is foolish.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

KiwiFarms circa 1997: "Akshually, taking whatever you can find, like plungers and broom handles, and shoving them up a perp's ass is a completely common and effective restraint method. Failing that, crushing his balls with your hands and feet while he's cuffed can keep even perps hopped up on PCP under control. My friends and family have all used these techniques on me and we've laughed and gone out for beers and heroin after."

Please dont kink shame here.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I do not know what the videos would show, given how I have not had access to them.

Dude, just make up an example of how. I don't care how outlandish. What could justify a 7 min neck pin? How did 4 officers not have this under control within those 7 mins?

This isn't a 10 sec clip where we find out he was thrashing his neck about before video recording causing him to break his neck or whatever.

7 mins of his neck pinned as 4 officers held him down.


For fuck sake. We get a 10 sec video of the jogger in a house and we can figure out the citizens arrest was justified but 7 mins of the officer keeping him pinned and it's "let's wait for all evidence before making judgement calls..."

 

[samuraicrack]

 

[Stoneheart]

this is horrible and they should go down hard on those cops!
you cant get them away with a crime like this, it stains the good name of the police force!

The good thing is that its a very rare case and there will be an investigation.


on the other hand, the police shot be out on the street today, shooting all the looters.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

on the other hand, the police shot be out on the street today, shooting all the looters.

Anyone even looting? I know peeps were fucking up cop cars, but thought that was it.

 

[JohnDoe]

Probably by trying to stop throwing fuel into the fire and bothering to at least try some professionalism.

You will not make things better by proving them right and covering the ass of murderers inside your own force.

When the impression, and possibly reality, is that everyone is chomping at the bit to destroy your life and the lives of your coworkers you'd probably cover for each other regardless because of basic in-group reciprocity. Turning in anyone for anything means that you will get no support from your coworkers when the mob comes for you eventually for misgendering a troon.

This environment is created because of the aforementioned knee-jerk mobbing mentality, polarization, and inability to address anything with nuance.

When people are treated as professionals, they will act that way.

 

[The Dude]

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Two at the top gave themselves up peacefully and didn't resist arrest. The two at the bottom resisted arrest violently. Simple as that. Don't resist arrest and things go a lot smoother.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

When people are treated as professionals, they will act that way.

Maybe the cops should start that first to the people they patrol? Just a thought.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

A knee to the back of the neck is pretty painful and incapacitating, though, and every cop would know it. I've had it happen to me a couple of times in the past, and, after the cops secure things, I've been taken out of handcuffs, had a few laughs, and shot the shit with them before giving a statement about whatever they were there for and sent merrily on my way.

This totally 100% happened and isn't made up bullshit

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Yeah, let's have all evidence before we try them in a court of law. Fine

But what exactly is going to be shown in the video before the pin that will justify the cop having his knee on his neck for 7 mins?

If he was by himself and the guy was thrashing about, yeah i suppose arguments can be made for that type of pinning. But he was pinned by three other cops and restraint already.

Only conclusion, and maybe im wrong, is that Officer Kneeling didn't like having his authority challenged by the spectators and had to make a big show of force to everyone present.

Are you like a First Amendment Auditor or something?

We don't know what this guy died from. All we have is one cell phone video that starts half way through and doesn't show the larger situation.

I'd say there isn't enough here to come to any definitive conclusion. If I had to hazard a guess I'd say he was pinned for so long because there was a mob surrounding them screaming "dey hurt his nec and he can't breeve" and it was more important to keep the suspect restrained until they did crowd control.

 

[JohnDoe]

Maybe the cops should start that first to the people they patrol? Just a thought.

That's where the whole "arresting people" and "enforcing the law" comes in, or as you'd call it 'racist police brutality! You can't arrest a black man for doing a crime! Kill all police REEEEEEEEEE'.

The heart of the matter is that a number of people are opposed to the notion of police as a concept, either because they don't believe in personal accountability, the use of force under any circumstances, or because they are a criminal.

 

[Learned Hand]

If even 99% of the time you can couch a citizen being killed by the state as "he was resisting and deserved it," Floyd is probably the other 1% where it looks like plain criminal death in custody. I say probably because without an autospy, evidence, and a trial, we really don't know. None of us should fall into the trap that forbids us from supporting the presumption of innocence. The city firing them immediately to protect themselves from a lot of the liability doesn't mean much in this case because the spineless democratic city leadership is going to virtue signal hard to prevent the traditional looting and burning of local, completely unrelated businesses.

On the other hand, even if Floyd didn't enthusiastically comply with law enforcement, it really disturbs me reading so many replies by statist bootlickers apologizing and handwaving for police murdering citizens. Minneapolis citizens actually surrounding the police station and doxxing the officers involved probably did more to challenge unlawful police authority than LARPers in MI or VA did.

We really need to stop falling for this "thin blue line" boomer meme and get mad about cops killing citizens because while most cops might be your friend when you ignore the entirety of their profession is not serving your interest and instead exists only to further the laws of the state no matter how oppressive or absurd, these cops definitely aren't.