The cringiest things about gamers

[CheezzyMach]

Alright, time to not talk about the Wii.

Another thing that sucks about gamers is the forced on opinions and poor characterizations. This came up when watching videos from members of the Sonic community, and I have to say that they ring true. The community talked about how online influencers have an affect to make everyone believe Sonic is bad. This mainly effects Sonic Adventure as people like Egoraptor will show off the game to someone new to it, then brakes the game as much as possible just to prove that it is poorly designed. The issue being that one has to really go out of their way to trigger the things he is doing, but he acts like it’s a normal part of gameplay. The affect of influencers can be downright harmful to gaming as many will paint non-existent narratives to prove x game is bad.

This then leads to many communities or games being unjustly screwed over. It can also stop a franchise from going forward properly. One example would be Super Smash Bros.. Thanks to the Melee fanboys painting a narrative that Brawl is the worse thing ever, now Smash has just become bland as the team is so focused on esports that they won’t even attempt another proper adventure mode. Smash has been watered down to its core, loosing so many modes in the process to please the Melee esports crowd.

Basically, influencers can be terrible and really hurt many big titles just because the title wasn’t what they wanted. They perpetuate huge narratives that x was always bad. These narratives can then be harmful for even the company as evidenced by SEGA which can never figure out what to do with Sonic as every style just gets bashed by big YouTubers as not good, never good, etc..

Hasn't Sakurai openly trashed the "esports" Smash crowd though? And as far as I remember the reason the SSE mode hasn't been tried again is Sakurai being asshurt youtube exists.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

Hasn't Sakurai openly trashed the "esports" Smash crowd though? And as far as I remember the reason the SSE mode hasn't been tried again is Sakurai being asshurt youtube exists.

He detests the idea of Smash being played competitively, which was why tripping was put in the Wii game.


He‘d rather not have fans than have one person play his game any way he doesn’t approve or conceive of. He may well be more autistic than the smelly, shambling genetic disasters that worship his product.

 

[SnowBall]

Speaking of the Nintendo community I remember Animal Crossing fans getting extremely hostile towards Fire Emblem fans after a Nintendo Direct had a lot of FE3H information but nothing on AC....despite the Direct’s intentional main focus being 3H.

 

[Pissmaster]

He detests the idea of Smash being played competitively, which was why tripping was put in the Wii game.


He‘d rather not have fans than have one person play his game any way he doesn’t approve or conceive of. He may well be more autistic than the smelly, shambling genetic disasters that worship his product.

E-Sports are gay as shit, but there's just not a lot to Smash if you don't play it competitively. The game's just kinda over once you've unlocked all the characters, and so many of them are filler that you'll try like 65 of them once or twice and then just cycle between your favorite few ad infinitum.

One of the common tenants about life itself is that you'll generally set out with a goal in mind, and end up somewhere you never expected. Same thing goes with video games, there are all kinds of stories about game franchises that started out as one thing and ended up another, like GTA starting out as Race & Chase, and morphing into GTA when they found it was more fun to piss off the cops and enact a glitch where the cops would try to plow them off the road. Thus, GTA was born, and became the best selling entertainment property ever thus far. I guess Final Fantasy also counts, as it was Square's hail mary of a game to close out their failing studio, only for it to explode and become another one of the biggest game series of all time.

Sakurai's very short sighted to not let Smash grow into an E-Sports game. That's just the natural progression of a game of its ilk.

And as a whole, Nintendo seems to have a weirdly stodgy habit of seeing certain kinds of games as more like superficial toys than big, immersive experiences. Like, remember Wii Music? A game released four years after Guitar Hero, shortly before the rhythm game fad died? The E3 presentation was bad enough, but I picked up that game for a dollar at one point, and it really is as shitty as it looks. You really do just hold the Wii Remote in a certain way and swing it around to get through the song. It's not much more sophisticated than those toy instruments where you press a button and it plays a MIDI of Old MacDonald, and that's impressively out-of-touch for a game they tried to sell for $50.

By the way, Sebastian Tute from Wii Music is one of the most useful spirits in Smash Bros. Ultimate's World of Light, appropriately enough.

 

[Raging Capybara]

but there's just not a lot to Smash if you don't play it competitively

Another guy who never had the joy of playing a 99 stock match using only pokeballs.

Look, Modern smash is indeed boring as fuck, but back on Meele times where you could spawn dozens of items at the same time freezing the poor Game Cube's cpu the game had endless potential for dumb fun.

 

[-4ZURE-]

Hasn't Sakurai openly trashed the "esports" Smash crowd though? And as far as I remember the reason the SSE mode hasn't been tried again is Sakurai being asshurt youtube exists.

He did, but in recent years he seems fine with it. It’s likely more so Nintendo’s initiative to have e-sports than him. Smash Ultimate even had directs going over new competitive gameplay mechanics like dodging. They’re are clearly jumping on the esports train with Ultimate.

Speaking of the Nintendo community I remember Animal Crossing fans getting extremely hostile towards Fire Emblem fans after a Nintendo Direct had a lot of FE3H information but nothing on AC....despite the Direct’s intentional main focus being 3H.

Smash fans too. The man-children filled Nintendo’s Twitter with hate comments because Fire Emblem bad, why not Smash or Animal Crossing announcement. Fire Emblem is actually pretty good, to bad Smash ruined the series reputation.

E-Sports are gay as shit, but there's just not a lot to Smash if you don't play it competitively. The game's just kinda over once you've unlocked all the characters, and so many of them are filler that you'll try like 65 of them once or twice and then just cycle between your favorite few ad infinitum.

Yeah, Smash is pretty lack luster. I feel like Brawl was the last one that I did not have issues with. While Subspace is not perfect, it certainly added replay value, being able to go through decent platforming stages with a wide array of characters. I felt like Smash Run also did a decent job at this.

Now it seems to just be a special fighter. It has the same replayability as any other fighting game, mainly just get good. It starts to get extremely boring after awhile. It sucks as Brawl had so much effort put in to side activities and being an overall love-letter to Nintendo’s history, yet they have not been able to top it.

Also the roster is way over bloated as you mentioned.

 

[Slimy Time]

Minor one, but the need for gamers to consoom and purchase the latest console on release at full price. How many times have we seen it where there are bugs or manufacturing defects and no games on the console except for one or two release titles. I have always had the practice of getting the next gen a year or year and half after release when price drops a bit and when the library is larger, if at all.

 

[Poyo Sato]

I hate it when someone complained that a certain game is too hard and unforgiving, but when the sequel came they now complained because it's too easy or not as hard as the previous game.

Also those who always praise the first or early installment of a franchise, with Pokemon and Monster Hunter came into my mind because some friends can't stop blabbering about how great the gen 1 and the first two MH games are.

 

[The Last Stand]

Minor one, but the need for gamers to consoom and purchase the latest console on release at full price. How many times have we seen it where there are bugs or manufacturing defects and no games on the console except for one or two release titles. I have always had the practice of getting the next gen a year or year and half after release when price drops a bit and when the library is larger, if at all.

Not going to lie, I'm having temptations of that with the Xbox Series X. Backwards compatibility, Smart Delivery, Cyperpunk 2077.

Moreso, when first adaptors complain about later buyers getting bonuses for waiting to purchase the latest product. You were the first to jump in, what more do you want?

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Minor one, but the need for gamers to consoom and purchase the latest console on release at full price. How many times have we seen it where there are bugs or manufacturing defects and no games on the console except for one or two release titles. I have always had the practice of getting the next gen a year or year and half after release when price drops a bit and when the library is larger, if at all.

Let them be beta testers. The smarties usually get the superior slim model. Unless it's a PS3 situation where backwards compatibility is taken out. Then the consoomers end up winning.

Speaking of backwards compatibility, I'd consoom the hell out of a Playstation that played PS1, PS2, and PS4 games. PS3 also being compatible is something I'd prefer, but I'll cut Sony some slack there.

 

[Pissmaster]

Not going to lie, I'm having temptations of that with the Xbox Series X. Backwards compatibility, Smart Delivery, Cyperpunk 2077.

Moreso, when first adaptors complain about later buyers getting bonuses for waiting to purchase the latest product. You were the first to jump in, what more do you want?

That one's a lot more understandable because of it being a total upgrade, where every single Xbox One model will be fully obsolete. You're already going in with a huge library of games, it ain't a Switch situation where no matter what you've acquired, you're going in with nothing but launch games.

 

[AbyssStarer]

Hating on broadly brushed groups such as Sonyggers and Nintenbabies.
Ok, you started some shitflinging and consolewarring, thats cute. Can you get over it now?
Also, when hype goes too far and people with poor self-control spend full price on a demo.

 

[The Last Stand]

Also, when hype goes too far and people with poor self-control spend full price on a demo.

Remember Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes? You paid $40 for one mission from the whole game.

Edit: okay, okay. One story mission and a few side operations. Evidently, Kojima had more development time for Metal Gear Solid V and wanted to release something to tide players over.

Still, it was essentially an inflated demo being sold to you.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Minor one, but the need for gamers to consoom and purchase the latest console on release at full price. How many times have we seen it where there are bugs or manufacturing defects and no games on the console except for one or two release titles. I have always had the practice of getting the next gen a year or year and half after release when price drops a bit and when the library is larger, if at all.

The fat PS3 broke me from that, fucker YLOD'd. Now I wait at-least a year. Hell even the 6th gen wasn't safe. Fat PS2s are infamous for disk read errors, Dreamcasts will blow a fuse if you accidentally yank a controller out, the Xbox's disc tray is prone to locking up and Gamecube...well I can't think of anything but I just know it had to have some hardware fuckup.

 

[Slimy Time]

Let them be beta testers. The smarties usually get the superior slim model. Unless it's a PS3 situation where backwards compatibility is taken out. Then the consoomers end up winning.

Speaking of backwards compatibility, I'd consoom the hell out of a Playstation that played PS1, PS2, and PS4 games. PS3 also being compatible is something I'd prefer, but I'll cut Sony some slack there.

I have always stuck with Sony, mainly because I remember having fond of memories of the PS1 and PS2 and I never was a fan of most shooters, which seemed to be the selling point of Xbox with Halo and Gears. With recent practices and the cock up of TLOU2 and playing games less and less, not sure if I'll get the next gen. If I do, I'll give the others a look and certainly not before a year passes. No reason to spend money on a new console when most are still developing games for the current gen. Thing is, if 5 is backwards compatible, might end up getting that so I don't have to drag the 4 to play the few games I have brought over the years.

 

[SolidZone 26]

The fat PS3 broke me from that, fucker YLOD'd. Now I wait at-least a year. Hell even the 6th gen wasn't safe. Fat PS2s are infamous for disk read errors, Dreamcasts will blow a fuse if you accidentally yank a controller out, the Xbox's disc tray is prone to locking up and Gamecube...well I can't think of anything but I just know it had to have some hardware fuckup.

Gamecube was a hardy console. It takes some effort to break it. Now with new consoles like PS4, Switch, and Xbox One a firmware update can brick it.,

 

[Pissmaster]

Speaking of Gamecube, go check out how expensive its component cables are, and think about how people actually pay up that much for a set. Last I checked, they were going for around $120.

They're retarded-expensive because third-party ones couldn't be made for whatever reason, even though third-party component cables for the Wii exist, are common, and the Wii can play everything the Gamecube can. The idiots who pay out the nose for those are buying them for their Game Boy Player.

I should also point out that there's a cycle-accurate GBA emulator in the works that has an official Wii port, but it's not MUH LEGIT CARTRIDGEZ, so, a fool and his money will soon be parted.

Hating on broadly brushed groups such as Sonyggers and Nintenbabies.
Ok, you started some shitflinging and consolewarring, thats cute. Can you get over it now?
Also, when hype goes too far and people with poor self-control spend full price on a demo.
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That's especially loony because of the way 3DS downloadables work, since they're attached to your console, not an account. You'll get the exact same content if you hack your 3DS and sideload a .cia of the demo on there, unless you get off to watching things download from Nintendo's eShop.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Speaking of Gamecube, go check out how expensive its component cables are, and think about how people actually pay up that much for a set. Last I checked, they were going for around $120.

They're exceptional-expensive because third-party ones couldn't be made for whatever reason, even though third-party component cables for the Wii exist, are common, and the Wii can play everything the Gamecube can. The idiots who pay out the nose for those are buying them for their Game Boy Player.

I should also point out that there's a cycle-accurate GBA emulator in the works that has an official Wii port, but it's not MUH LEGIT CARTRIDGEZ, so, a fool and his money will soon be parted.

That's just fucking strange because Nintendo component cables are basically universal; you can use the GameCube component cables with your N64 or your SNES, and I know this because my SNES is hooked up with my GameCube component cables. You can buy N64 component cables for $15 on eBay (I just checked) and just use that on your GameCube. Literally the only thing unique about the GameCube ones is that they came packaged with that system and not the ones that came before it.

The people buying them for $130 are ripping themselves off hard.

 

[BR55]

Speedrunning is exceptional. Who gives a shit if you can be the fastest guy to finish some obscure Japanese-only PS1 game? AGDQ is depressing to watch. A bunch of pasty nerds staring dead-eyed at a game they've played 8 million times to shave another second off their time.

Pro-gaming in general is pathetic and i can't imagine spending any real amount of time watching someone else play a videogame.

I'm just baffled by speedrunning and the people who do it.
Take Doom speedrunning for example.
How the fuck do you not go insane playing E1M1 literally thousands of times, in the same way every time, hoping that the planets will align and you shave 0.3 seconds off your time?
Even literal autists would get fucking bored doing that.
That's not to mention how speedrunning fans will go on about what a great achievement this exercise in futility is whenever another arbitrary "record" gets broken.

 

[AnOminous]

Even literal autists would get fucking bored doing that.

Except literal autists do in fact seem to enjoy it.