U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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@Kheapathic from the first page:

"Another shit situation that the media is going to cause more trouble than necessary. Not a lot of data is given, but the dude resisted; which means the cops are going to get handsy."

"handsy"? :-D did you see the video, right? there were two policemen and even accounting for the US police being often more violent you can clearly see one of them walking away and turning his back, this means that the person arrested was under control.

And once he's down, normal policemen would make sure he's calm and say ok, now don't move, agreed? I am going to cuff you - especially as there are two of them. The second one could have helped. If a few small unarmed female nurses can restrain violent male, large, psychotic patients, two policemen with guns can restrain one person, at least I would say.

Also I mean putting your weight on someone's neck on the kerbside can break the spine, crush the larynx, do many things that somebody whose job is to know how to arrest people should know about.

I understand that a policeman hearing I can't breathe, you're breaking my arm, etc. can't believe all of them but this one was restrained, the policeman was not alone and he didn't need to put the man in a situation where he could die (as he did).

Sure, we have no idea, maybe the man died of cancer, maybe at the hospital someone gave him a wrong injection, but everything indicates the officer caused his death and certainly what the officer did is not incompatible with crushing the larynx or breaking the man's neck and because the officer has been instructed in what to do and not to do, it can really be murder.

I really wouldn't just dismiss it as "police being handsy" because if someone says turn your back and you say why I didn't do anything and the policeman says ok, resisting, I'll take you down and kneel on your neck against a rock you wouldn't like it :-D
 
And it certainly doesn't excuse the other 3 fuckers. Because kneeman might have frozen but the other 3 had a lot of time to stop him and could have reasoned properly with him. Legally they don't have as much of a responsibility for the result. But imho morally they are even worse.

I think its important to note that kneeman was a 20+ year veteran. The other three officers had, between them, something like less than five years of experience. Two of them were fresh from the academy, just out of the probation period. In a high stress situation (active arrest, possible violent mob surrounding them) do you think they are going to argue with the superior officer on the scene? Do you think police training includes lessons on undermining the scene commander's authority in situations where they must impose order for their safety and the safety of bystanders?

This is the problem I have with the kneejerk 'fire and jail them all!' reactions, besides the obvious rush to judgement, is that nobody thinks even ONCE about department level training and policy. Are we going to send a rookie to jail, or kill his career for following his training and the direction of a superior officer? I guess it makes people feel better, but until we start making reforms at a higher level nothing will change long-term.

And once he's down, normal policemen would make sure he's calm and say ok, now don't move, agreed? I am going to cuff you - especially as there are two of them. The second one could have helped. If a few small unarmed female nurses can restrain violent male, large, psychotic patients, two policemen with guns can restrain one person, at least I would say.

Like most people in this thread, I don't think you know the first thing about restraining people against their will.
 
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Of course, everyone knows the neck is extremely vulnerable because of the windpipe, but that's far from the whole story. The neck has the largest and most vulnerable vein and artery in the whole damned body (outside of the heart itself) because it feeds oxygen to the god damned brain. I don't care about the circumstances, people are pinned by the torso, never the neck. This isn't just for cops. If you go to any martial arts training that's not illegal they will make god damned emphasis: if you attack someone's neck, you will be held responsible if they die. Because that is an extremely stupid thing to do.
Chokes if applied properly like you see in MMA or martial arts can put a man to sleep in seconds from cutting off the blood flow. People don't understand how fast things can go wrong when pressure is applied to the neck. Talking about seconds where half the time you don't even realise you are slipping into unconsciousness. Here is an example.
The choke hadn't been sunk in properly and he had blacked out for a bit? This fag of a cop with 20 years experience put his knee and leaned on him for how long again?
 
I think its important to note that kneeman was a 20+ year veteran. The other three officers had, between them, something like less than five years of experience. Two of them were fresh from the academy, just out of the probation period. In a high stress situation (active arrest, possible violent mob surrounding them) do you think they are going to argue with the superior officer on the scene? Do you think police training includes lessons on undermining the scene commander's authority in situations where they must impose order for their safety and the safety of bystanders?

This is the problem I have with the kneejerk 'fire and jail them all!' reactions, besides the obvious rush to judgement, is that nobody thinks even ONCE about department level training and policy. Are we going to send a rookie to jail, or kill his career for following his training and the direction of a superior officer? I guess it makes people feel better, but until we start making reforms at a higher level nothing will change long-term.



Like most people in this thread, I don't think you know the first thing about restraining people against their will.

Alright. That is a good argument. I did not take that into account. I still say they should've at least tried to reason with the guy. But I can see why they didn't.
 
I can guarantee that half of the people looting don't even know what they're looting for. Negroids have terrible memories. I remember when I worked in higher ed during the height of the BLM movement and one of them said something to the effect of "Did you hear about this horrible police shooting? The last one [which we rioted over] wasn't really anything but THIS shooting is horrible!". Last I checked, the officer in question is already suspended and in the process of being indicted. Do they want us to bring back lynchings?

Also, is anyone here from Minneapolis and can comment on the state of the city in general? Like I was in Milwaukee when the 2016 riots happened and I didn't even know it was happening until I checked Twitter because the ghetto is so isolated and unimportant that there weren't even any traffic jams or anything. There are so few businesses in that area anyways that nothing of much value was lost. Is it isolated in Minneapolis or, because of their obsession with "muh diversity", are they more integrated?
 
I know this is a little late but i wanted to add that in the UK, in psych wards, face-down restraint is discouraged from being used anymore because of this issue. People have died being restrained face down due to asphyxiation, without any pressure on the neck.

A bit OT, but still important; one of the causes of crib-death/SIDS is sleeping prone, with the head turned to the side.

It's not so much about the suffocation, it's risking the compression of underdeveloped/weak veins & arteries in the tot's neck.
 
Here's an archive of the video I got off YT. FFS, this should have been done ASAP.

Yeah, can't really get any more clearer than that... The cop just murdered the dude. You can't make any argument at all, the guy knowingly did it too.

The solution is simple. Fire the cop, then arrest him and prosecute him for murder.
Because, having (good) police is a good thing. And having trust for them is also good. Letting random and rare psycho cops do this makes the situation far worse for everyone. (again, firing him is not enough)

8/10 time even in these controversial situations you can make some justification for the officer, but when you can't, you can't. Tbh defending this guy would be pure and complete mindless bootlicking.
 
Inner-community violence is always fine to overlook, because stuff like this won't lead to retaliation.
If this leaked out to other (aka white communities), it'd become inter-community violence which could potentially lead to massive escalation and retaliation. Look at the LA riots and the roof Koreans.

This riot stuff is insane, but the cop fucked up.

Imagine being this guy and your community is burning down in flames because of your actions.
Not really, though. The cops actions were unnecessary and disproportionate. These actions are even more so. With this logic, you could blame it all on the black guy because his actions led to the disproportionate response from the cop, which led to disproportionate responses from the rioters.
 
The solution is simple. Fire the cop, then arrest him and prosecute him for murder.
Because, having (good) police is a good thing. And having trust for them is also good. Letting random and rare psycho cops do this makes the situation far worse for everyone. (again, firing him is not enough)
To be perfectly blunt, I don’t think inner city blacks would see that as “justice”. For example, if somebody does a drive-by and shoots your friend, do you A. Contact the cops and get them sent to jail or B. Get your friends together and do a drive-by yourself while kids play in the yard?

Getting sent to jail isn’t “justice” in the ghetto, going and murdering either the person who did it or anybody related or friends with them is “justice”. So unless the cop is immediately dragged out and beaten to death on live video, the riots will continue. Hell, probably until the cop’s whole family is dragged out and beaten to death, the mobs won’t be satisfied.
 
The final "Tale of the Tape" of last night's activities:

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This is A LOT different from what is being reported by news outlets this morning. Most are saying things like "unrest" "some fires" "Autozone burned down and Target was looted."

In reality:
Burned:
-Autozone
-Planet Fitness
-Dollar Tree
-Minnesota Transitions Charter School
-Wendys
-New building under construction
-Homeless shelter

Looted:
-Hi Like Liquors
-Citi Trends
-Total Wireless
-US Bank
-Wells Fargo

Looted AND Burned:
-Target
-Metro PCS
-Walgreens
-Cub Foods
A guy was killed by the owner of the pawn shop. There are also reports I couldn't confirm of an apartment building, sushi place, and a few others that were burned. The press is downplaying this, but it was pretty bad (though confined to a small area).
 
If they had wanted to take their anger out on the Police and police property then fair game, but looting and destroying their own areas instantly takes away whatever sympathy i have for them. African Americans are their own worst enemy.
FFS you actual racist. Bogside? Thoughts?

ETA the point i am making to the casual observer is that all fucking races wreck their own shit including this cunt's. When they rightly or wrongly feel they have been majorly wronged by power and have no access to anything else.
 
Inner-community violence is always fine to overlook, because stuff like this won't lead to retaliation.
If this leaked out to other (aka white communities), it'd become inter-community violence which could potentially lead to massive escalation and retaliation. Look at the LA riots and the roof Koreans.


Not really, though. The cops actions were unnecessary and disproportionate. These actions are even more so. With this logic, you could blame it all on the black guy because his actions led to the disproportionate response from the cop, which led to disproportionate responses from the rioters.

Pretty sure I saw star tribune doxxed him as living in Oakdale, on the other side of St. Paul.

 
Chokes if applied properly like you see in MMA or martial arts can put a man to sleep in seconds from cutting off the blood flow. People don't understand how fast things can go wrong when pressure is applied to the neck. Talking about seconds where half the time you don't even realise you are slipping into unconsciousness. Here is an example.
The choke hadn't been sunk in properly and he had blacked out for a bit? This fag of a cop with 20 years experience put his knee and leaned on him for how long again?
Here's another good example imo
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Witnesses were commenting how the cop looked like he was getting off on choking the guy out. It looked like he might have been getting off from it to me too. The way he was staring at the guys face unless momentarily distracted. And the fact he didn't change at all while the guy got less and less responsive. It looked to me like he was in a trance watching the life leave the guys body.
 
Here's another good example imo
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Witnesses were commenting how the cop looked like he was getting off on choking the guy out. It looked like he might have been getting off from it to me too. The way he was staring at the guys face unless momentarily distracted. And the fact he didn't change at all while the guy got less and less responsive. It looked to me like he was in a trance watching the life leave the guys body.
Thats because he learned a Trumps Chosen martial art.
 
Here's another good example imo
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Witnesses were commenting how the cop looked like he was getting off on choking the guy out. It looked like he might have been getting off from it to me too. The way he was staring at the guys face unless momentarily distracted. And the fact he didn't change at all while the guy got less and less responsive. It looked to me like he was in a trance watching the life leave the guys body.
Look at both reactions from your video and mine. Both guys had the reaction of "what happened?" It happened so quickly that it didn't even register that they went unconscious and were seizing up a bit. Once again, another example. This time against someone resisting. Count it out. How long does it take for one of them to get KO'ed?

I found the full video of this cop putting his knee on this guy. He had the knee on his neck for 8 fucking minutes. 8 minutes with his knee on the side of his neck and at some point George was out and without oxygen. The most disgusting thing about the video is that pig kept the knee on him all the way until the ambulance arrived at the 8 to 9 minute mark. This guy is unconscious or there is something wrong with him so an ambulance is called and the cop still keeps his knee on his neck? Fuck this guy.
 
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