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Here's why repealing 230 is a bad idea for the laymen on this forum.

The first thing is it'll intensify censorship, because now websites will have much less of a safe harbor for when shit hits the fan. The second thing is well, let's say Null actually shuts the site down Lavabit or CL personals style (can't run it under US law so and so, blah blah). So a disgruntled Kiwi decides to start their own offshoot forum with hookers and blow since the original is gone anyway.

It's now a lot harder to. The issues that plagued this site such as hosting problems and mad lolcows writing Cloudflare complaints are still there. Section 230 is supposed to legally protect you against a lot of problems websites can legally face from users and with that gone, you've got more than just a bunch of shitty webhosts and domain registrars to deal with. You could be in legal trouble when your site pisses off someone much easier, or if someone decides to advertise their school shooting there. That's just the tip of the iceberg but it makes hosting a site like this not legally feasible. Twitter on the other hand? They still have the ability to throw lawyers at the problem and make it go away or get pushed under the rug. Do you think a smaller site like this has big tech industry lawyers?

But hey god-emperor Trump said it's good so it must be good.
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So, NOT referring to KF, which is run by an American company etc.

This needs to be approved by congress etc. Even the text of the Executive order is vague and not binding:

"The FTC shall consider taking action, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law,"

"shall consider" is not "will consider" or "must consider"

sure, the FTC considers taking action "as appropriate and consistent with the law" and I would hope so. They shouldn't take action appropriate and consistent with things they are making up.

He also writes "This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations."

"Consistent with applicable law" means that the law stays the same. He can't repeal anything by himself.

Also note that he writes:

"Section 230 was not intended to allow a handful of companies to grow into titans controlling vital avenues for our national discourse under the guise of promoting open forums for debate, and then to provide those behemoths blanket immunity when they use their power to censor content and silence viewpoints that they dislike. When an interactive computer service provider removes or restricts access to content and its actions do not meet the criteria of subparagraph (c)(2)(A), it is engaged in editorial conduct"

followed by

"It is the policy of the United States that such a provider should properly lose the limited liability shield of subparagraph (c)(2)(A) and be exposed to liability like any traditional editor and publisher that is not an online provider."

This all under the blanket of

"as appropriate and consistent with the law"

when did this become "Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is repealed and content publishers are now personally liable when defamatory opinions are published"????

The only thing he says is "When an interactive computer service provider removes or restricts access to content and its actions do not meet the criteria of subparagraph (c)(2)(A), it is engaged in editorial conduct"

which means when when a service provider *both* removes or restricts access to content *and* does not meet the criteria of subp. c.2.A it is engaged in editorial conduct.

Why does this mean "allowing defamatory opinions to be published results in personal civil liability"????

also imho it's all theoretical, just to show off, like the wall Mexico was supposed to pay.

My 2c imho.
 
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Null said:
EVERYONE IS FUCKING RETARDED

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Don´t you feel for the poor cartoonists, comedians and shitposters dying on the trenches of the Big Gay Optics War, @Null ? They just want the nuke option because they are so tired of the hustle. They will retreat to Gab after section 230 falls, where I´m certain they will be able screw the optics without fear of those pesky feds and be surrounded by free speech with Trump and Torba
 
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Iwasamwillbe said:
Holy shit you're right.

The Farms are becoming less Jewish because of this.
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We need to use this wisely and commonly if this shit gets fucked in the ass.

The words nigger, retard, and kike are precious words of the English language, especially on these edgy sides of the internet. We need to indulge our usage of these terms more than ever. The world depends on these words not being blocked out.
 
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inb4 it ends up being bluster that the feds implement in a patchwork, piecemeal fashion that people can easily bypass
 
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CIA Nigger said:
Here's why repealing 230 is a bad idea for the laymen on this forum.

The first thing is it'll intensify censorship, because now websites will have much less of a safe harbor for when shit hits the fan. The second thing is well, let's say Null actually shuts the site down Lavabit or CL personals style (can't run it under US law so and so, blah blah). So a disgruntled Kiwi decides to start their own offshoot forum with hookers and blow since the original is gone anyway.

It's now a lot harder to. The issues that plagued this site such as hosting problems and mad lolcows writing Cloudflare complaints are still there. Section 230 is supposed to legally protect you against a lot of problems websites can legally face from users and with that gone, you've got more than just a bunch of shitty webhosts and domain registrars to deal with. You could be in legal trouble when your site pisses off someone much easier, or if someone decides to advertise their school shooting there. That's just the tip of the iceberg but it makes hosting a site like this not legally feasible. Twitter on the other hand? They still have the ability to throw lawyers at the problem and make it go away or get pushed under the rug. Do you think a smaller site like this has big tech industry lawyers?

But hey god-emperor Trump said it's good so it must be good.

Oh and here's a quick edit: this is going to affect a lot more websites than just shitposting sites if it comes to pass.
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Yeah, I mean you bitched about SJWs ruining shit for years and wanted a solution, you got it, then you bitch.

Lol man.
 
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Null said:
Why are people so fucking complacent to just say "it will never happen"? Because all of his other promises are bullshit too? If he is just bullshitting to get a reaction, the reaction should still exist. People should be telling him from every side of the aisle: "this is FUCKING STUPID"
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I can't speak for others, but for me it comes down to "Can I do anything about it?".

As someone not from the US, the answer is "no", so there's no point in me getting worked up about it because it's only going to be extra stress. I'm not going to stop others getting worked up about it if they care about it.

I've been hearing that something or other is going to be the end of civilization or the internet as we know it since before Brexit, and it's never happened. I've also seen lolcows throw huge tantrums over things and they achieve nothing but make themselves look foolish.


For those in the US, what do you propose they do? You keep saying "protest", but how? Shout at him on Twitter like every blue checkmark has for the last 4 years? That seems as effective as starting a change.org petition or telling people to write to their congressman.
 
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SAVE TWINKIE! said:
omg i knew about nigger kike jew but even the retard filter is suspended? no im really scared that one is nulls favorite
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But is the most important word filter of them all, ween, still there?

Seems it isn't, rest in peace to it's extremely funny filter.
 
Oh no ONE social media platform is giving Trump issues, better enact all the might of the senate for 1 platform when you could own Jack by saying something like "okay fine, i invite everyone to follow me and the white house over to gab, or minds, or steemit, or... facebook.. " for a little more than the 2 past years.

The white house channel already has a Bitchute account so it's not like they don't know about Alt Tech, If Trump had done his job and promoted the Fuck out of alternative platforms these past years it wouldn't be an issue but taking action at the last second by going Full Force reactionnary is never the way you approach a problem. He had plenty of time to prepare a switch of platform and answer to the many critics of social media platform censorship in these past 4 years and prepare new better laws / sections or whatever.

He didn't care for the thousand others conservative youtube channels getting banned over the years but when it happen to him once better call in the senate.
 
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For the record this is what happens when people into politics are clearly schizo with wanting one thing but then not liking the solution to it.
If you fucking fear monger about SJWs ruining society, THIS IS WHAT YOU GET. And you should learn to live with your rhetoric leading to shit you didn't want. Ironically many of these same people were liberal leaning retards to begin with so hah. Get fucked.
 
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