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[Wenger]

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At least you're a fair sport Wenger, I'll give you that. You just can't quit us can you?

I love this site. I was a lurker for years before I became involved in one of it's subjects. You're wrong about one thing tho. I'm not here today to tow the party line or whatever. I think all of this current sperg out is stupid from every angle and I'm just staying out of it other than giving my opinion when it comes up.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

I have a question Nasser. I am going on memory, so correct me if I'm wrong. But did you admit to torturing a kitten on one of EVS' livestreams? I remember it being brought up with nervous laughter a few times and then the subject was quickly changed.

It was a joke and it was on a Cecil stream. He asked for a childhood memory and I made a joke about killing a cat and failing.

That wasn't even the worst joke on the stream, but it's another thing people twist.

I've said this a million times in those early days: I thought dark, over the top humor was the thing to do on Cecil's channel. Watch an early stream of me on Cecil's channel vs me on another cger's channel and you'll see a big difference. I thought people tuned into his channel for dark jokes and that's what I tried to do. Especially because nerkish made really dark jokes too and was on Cecil's channel a lot.

now everybody twists it to say i murdered kittens or microwaved kitten or something or other, but all it was was a joke, and I've said it a million times, but that's how these people are.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

It was a joke and it was on a Cecil stream. He asked for a childhood memory and I made a joke about killing a cat and failing.

That wasn't even the worst joke on the stream, but it's another thing people twist.

I've said this a million times in those early days: I thought dark, over the top humor was the thing to do on Cecil's channel. Watch an early stream of me on Cecil's channel vs me on another cger's channel and you'll see a big difference. I thought people tuned into his channel for dark jokes and that's what I tried to do. Especially because nerkish made really dark jokes too and was on Cecil's channel a lot.

now everybody twists it to say i murdered kittens or microwaved kitten or something or other, but all it was was a joke, and I've said it a million times, but that's how these people are.

Very good, thank you for clarifying that.

 

[cow-wannabe]

This is a little tricky, and I think it complicates a lot of things. It certainly questions the future of CG if it follows it's current direction towards closer (or perhaps more open) ties with Dynamite, and also its narrative about fighting the SJWs. It also means @FROG now has to justify his claims that Dynamite are CG-Neutral, when patently they are not.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

This is a little tricky, and I think it complicates a lot of things. It certainly questions the future of CG if it follows it's current direction towards closer (or perhaps more open) ties with Dynamite, and also its narrative about fighting the SJWs. It also means @FROG now has to justify his claims that Dynamite are CG-Neutral, when patently they are not.

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Frog offers a reasonable explanation for that:

 

[Teignmouth Electron]

Frog offers a reasonable explanation for that:

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Even with all the gay shit he pulls, Ethan is at the end of the day a charming dude. If he can salvage this, my hat’s off to him.

 

[SpiderDerp]

Even with all the gay shit he pulls, Ethan is at the end of the day a charming dude. If he can salvage this, my hat’s off to him.

CG is just about being gay confirmed.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Even with all the gay shit he pulls, Ethan is at the end of the day a charming dude. If he can salvage this, my hat’s off to him.

The "Creator's Page" for Dynamite Entertainment is a like a Rogue's Gallery of everybody you should hate as a good l'il CG'er. If his followers are going along with that, and they apparently are, why not this?

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I'm honestly a little surprised Dynamite isn't getting a shitstorm of hate from Anti-CG, that they dared to reach out to EVS in the first place, a crew like that on staff.

Edit: Jai Nitz? Really? Wow.

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[SpiderDerp]

I'm honestly a little surprised Dynamite isn't getting a shitstorm of hate from Anti-CG, that they dared to reach out to EVS in the first place, a crew like that on staff.

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Because all the shit on both sides is contrived and not actually about principle but about certain situations to try to benefit certain individuals.

 

[cow-wannabe]

Frog offers a reasonable explanation for that:

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That only works if Dynamite only just got involved with EVS, because Nick Berruci donated 19 Months ago (screeshot following taken today.)

Now considering the date on the first Cyberfrog/Vampirella campaign, EVS was working with DYNAMITE around six months after the date of Waid's Fundrasier.

Seems @FROG been caught in a lie.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

The "Creator's Page" for Dynamite Entertainment is a like a Rogue's Gallery of everybody you should hate as a good l'il CG'er. If his followers are going along with that, and they apparently are, why not this?

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I'm honestly a little surprised Dynamite isn't getting a shitstorm of hate from Anti-CG, that they dared to reach out to EVS in the first place, a crew like that on staff.

Edit: Jai Nitz? Really? Wow.

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The entire point of CG in the beginning was that everyone should be able to work anywhere regardless of their politics. To be consistent that must work both ways. None of those people should be fired - or worse, blackballed from an entire industry - because of their politics either.

A "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy would work best. It really is that simple.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

A "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy would work best. It really is that simple.

I'm okay with that. But do you really think Kurt Busiek, Gail Simone, Mark Waid, Greg Pak and, I dunno, Jim Zub are? Pretty sure all of 'em have strong opinions about ComicsGate.

 

[Newman's Own]

@FROG I found the parts in your stream where you lie about me, about 2 hours and 25 minutes in.

first he says I spread info about tug's miscarriage. Here is tug talking publicly about it before that video was ever made (and the miscarriage was not a plot point, tug had brought it up during an argument). Ethan acts as if tug was confiding in me or asking me for advice or something.

This is how you know their story is bs: what do I gain from talking about his miscarriage? I was talking in the video about how he was getting int he way of my now canceled comic Ducktor Satan, and the miscarriage was used as some sort of guilt trip by tug, but ethan and everyone loves to twist it.

And here he is changing his story on it a trillion times in some additional dms. These dms are from a few different points in time but they start after I had sent him the hour-long video explaining why I was stepping away from comics.

He also tried to say in his stream he showed it to tug, when really he showed it to his entire group chat and they started to share it around and clip it. Notice in the stream ethan says "i showed it to tug" but int some of these dms he says "tug showed it to me."

How would tug see it if i never sent it to tug? how would he show it to ethan? ethan is a liar. This was all used to smear me because they had nothing factual to smear me with.

Thank's for coming with receipts today. It is appreciated.

But Ethan doesn't often acknowledge evidence here Nasser. And he never seems to bring receipts at all.

EVS flogs his pizza box full of CF trinkets and tries to gaslight here. Basically, he treats this forum like he does his YouTube channel.

I think just you and EVS should do a livestream together and hash shit out. There's too many spergs in this thread.

Don't listen to people on KF. Listen to Ethan. He's your friend Nasser.

Funny how for the past 2 years Warcampaign was never a problem when they harassed certain creators out of Comicsgate, now that they've touched the sacred cow that is Anna, all their former misdeeds are suddenly problematic.

Anna's still useful. Her YT audience is arguably more useful than the liability that WC has become.

You should be careful about sharing any personal information with any users here.

Any users anywhere.

I love this site. I was a lurker for years before I became involved in one of it's subjects. You're wrong about one thing tho. I'm not here today to tow the party line or whatever. I think all of this current sperg out is stupid from every angle and I'm just staying out of it other than giving my opinion when it comes up.

Smart man, Wenger. Wait until the battles over before you declare a side. Wenger's been really tight with the worst of WarCampaign for a while now but the smart money is on Ethan. Decisions, decisions.

Stunning and brave.

Frog offers a reasonable explanation for that:

Didn't FROG say that him and Barrucci were friends for years? They live in very close proximity. Dynamite HQ is a 20 minute drive from the house SuiSui doxed.

Odd that he'd throw money at Mark Waid for trying to destroy EVS's friends career.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I'm okay with that. But do you really think Kurt Busiek, Gail Simone, Mark Waid, Greg Pak and, I dunno, Jim Zub are? Pretty sure all of 'em have strong opinions about ComicsGate.

That's up to them. If they want an activist-first company they can start one. Otherwise don't ask, don't tell.

[I swear Frog if you steal my don't ask don't tell thing I better get a royalty or something like your Flash characters]

 

[Starscreams Cape]

The "Creator's Page" for Dynamite Entertainment is a like a Rogue's Gallery of everybody you should hate as a good l'il CG'er. If his followers are going along with that, and they apparently are, why not this?

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I'm honestly a little surprised Dynamite isn't getting a shitstorm of hate from Anti-CG, that they dared to reach out to EVS in the first place, a crew like that on staff.

Edit: Jai Nitz? Really? Wow.

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I think Dynamite does the horrible James Bond comic, which Zack has savaged pretty good. Maybe Berucci took that personally?

 

[CapeKnight]

That only works if Dynamite only just got involved with EVS, because Nick Berruci donated 19 Months ago (screeshot following taken today.)

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Now considering the date on the first Cyberfrog/Vampirella campaign, EVS was working with DYNAMITE around six months after the date of Waid's Fundrasier.


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Seems @FROG been caught in a lie.

I've actually heard this: EVS put Waid up to it. That the lolsuit was a total set up to make Richard blow up, and for Waid to regain some relevance.. Source: one of the SWC streams (I will thank you, but I don't have to, but I totally should).

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I think Dynamite does the horrible James Bond comic, which Zack has savaged pretty good. Maybe Berucci took that personally?

Another concept that these CG idiots seem to have lost is that art is very much subjective. I might like art that you don't. That's what subjective means. Someone, somewhere might find a stick figure drawn on a Post-It to be brilliant shit. More power to them. Critiques on the art are also subjective, one may agree or disagree. Disliking someone's art does not make the artist a bad human who must be cast out and shunned however, that's where these low-IQ idiots have lost the plot.



[If I could downvote myself for calling a comic book art I would. It's subjective.]

 

[Starscreams Cape]

I've actually heard this: EVS put Waid up to it. That the lolsuit was a total set up to make Richard blow up, and for Waid to regain some relevance.. Source: one of the SWC streams (I will thank you, but I don't have to, but I totally should).

That sounds really, really dumb.

Which is why I fully expect half of the active members in this thread to adopt it as gospel.

 

[Newman's Own]

A "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy would work best. It really is that simple.

I'm okay with that. But do you really think Kurt Busiek, Gail Simone, Mark Waid, Greg Pak and, I dunno, Jim Zub are? Pretty sure all of 'em have strong opinions about ComicsGate.

A "don't ask don't tell" policy might work if the CEO didn't publicly pick a side.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. Barrucci donated to his associate/employee's GFM to show support.

Then Ethan showed up and said "You wanna make money off my paypiggies?" and Barrucci says "Sure. I don't really give a fuck about any of this CG shit but I do like money."

Ethan makes Barrucci a bunch of cash for reprinting a comic no one cared about in the first place and Barrucci decides to monetize ComicsGate. Zub, Pak and the rest don't say shit because they can't afford to be burning bridges in the current environment.

I'm guessing Barrucci is "friends" with people who help him pay the rent. That would include Waid, Simone and EVS.

 

[CapeKnight]

That sounds really, really dumb.

Which is why I fully expect half of the active members in this thread to adopt it as gospel.

Don't know, don't really care if it's true or not, but I won't put it past Ethan to be really, really dumb either.

It's speculation, no evidence, so you'd be a fool if you took it as gospel.