The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[LiquidKid]

*elicit

If you’re going to try to sound smart, using the right words helps.

I wasn’t trying to sound smart. But hey, homophone errors happen to everyone.

 

[Optimus Prime]

He also did a weird ‘ask Sally’ thing on DA where he would draw her answering questions and stuff, except he only ever answered one question and then never again.

He probably simultaneously lost interest, realized that doing that kind of thing takes control of the narrative out of his hands because he can't control what questions people ask (sure he can pick and choose the questions but that still leaves too much room for uncertainty), and hated having to draw responses so quickly.

An animation would actually be incredible... as long as it’s on the wrong thing. Find a particularly awful scene from those Cute Camp episodes, create a crude animation or even just an animatic, and flash South Park-esque text saying “THIS IS WHAT ENTER ACTUALLY WROTE”, and you’d probably have something.

Although, I should echo @LiquidKid in saying that the purpose shouldn’t specifically be to fuck with Enter, it should be more to show just how degenerate his scripts can actually get.

Unfortunately, I think Enter would just spring back out and accuse the farms of copyright theft.

 

[coach_mclurk]

He probably simultaneously lost interest, realized that doing that kind of thing takes control of the narrative out of his hands because he can't control what questions people ask (sure he can pick and choose the questions but that still leaves too much room for uncertainty), and hated having to draw responses so quickly.

He still does something similar on his discord where he roleplays as all the GA characters and answers questions. Except 99% of the time he's telling people to stop asking questions or if he does answer one it's always incredibly vague since he doesn't know the answer. Like someone will go "what's Sally's favorite song?" And Enter will go "Sally: Hmm... That's a tough one! I like a lot of songs!"
It's so pointless, I don't understand why he still has that channel. I guess he just hasn't realized he sucks at answering questions.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

He still does something similar on his discord where he roleplays as all the GA characters and answers questions. Except 99% of the time he's telling people to stop asking questions or if he does answer one it's always incredibly vague since he doesn't know the answer. Like someone will go "what's Sally's favorite song?" And Enter will go "Sally: Hmm... That's a tough one! I like a lot of songs!"
It's so pointless, I don't understand why he still has that channel. I guess he just hasn't realized he sucks at answering questions.

That's every Enter stream for you. Someone will ask him a fairly easy question and he'll respond with some form of "I don't know" or "maybe".
And again, when one of your main character's traits is that she loves a specific band, it might be a good idea to give her a favourite song. Especially since based on the scripts Sally is almost always listening to a song from that band.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Like, it isn't even a real band, he literally only needed to make up the name of one song and that was too much for him.

 

[LiquidKid]

That's every Enter stream for you. Someone will ask him a fairly easy question and he'll respond with some form of "I don't know" or "maybe".
And again, when one of your main character's traits is that she loves a specific band, it might be a good idea to give her a favourite song. Especially since based on the scripts Sally is almost always listening to a song from that band.

You want the man to attempt to write more song lyrics? Have you gone mad?!

 

[MysticMisty]

He also did a weird ‘ask Sally’ thing on DA where he would draw her answering questions and stuff, except he only ever answered one question and then never again.

Big surprise, he made an even easier version on Discord without pictures, and he still he's openly annoyed or outright pissed when people want to ask his characters a question. He has such disdain for his fanbase I honestly don't get how these people still worship him.

 

[Be patient I have lurkism]

Banned from Growing Around Discord speedruns when?

 

[LiquidKid]

Banned from Growing Around Discord speedruns when?

I’m pretty sure just pinging him will get you banned at this point

 

[Just_a_Bored_Guy]

Don't be surprised if Enter comments on either the recent EO or the Section 230 repeal threats (or both) in the near future.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Don't be surprised if Enter comments on either the recent EO or the Section 230 repeal threats (or both) in the near future.

Soon to be additional topics that will be covered by Growing Around with crossdressing and foot fetishism thrown in, because Enter.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

He's good at answering questions, guys.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

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He's good at answering questions, guys.

You'd think a guy that spends so much wasted time and effort into a doomed project would at least be willing to answer even the most basic of questions, but he gets so angry that people are legitimately curious about what he wants to do with it. Enter wastes no opportunity to shove GA into other people's faces, but the instant they ask anything about it he rudely brushes it off. I don't really understand it honestly, it's like he hates that people are interested in it or at the very least want to know more.

 

[MysticMisty]

He wastes time and effort on scripts, paying for art, and coming up with more background characters, but not actually developing anyone. I don't know if it's a sign of the 'tism or not, but it's probably because he can't relate to anybody. IE he doesn't listen to music, so he doesn't have a favorite song, so nobody has a favorite song. And so on. Even though in his favorite shows if the character doesn't have an obvious absolute favorite something, you could probably nail down their overall favorite of that type (music genre, movie genre, and so on).

 

[Be patient I have lurkism]

I remember checking an Entersphere thread in the spergatory about Growing Around and found out that people here got tricked by a troll into believing that Enter was basing Summerway on Auschwitz. Given what we know now I guess reality really is stranger than fiction.

 

[Optimus Prime]

He wastes time and effort on scripts, paying for art, and coming up with more background characters, but not actually developing anyone. I don't know if it's a sign of the 'tism or not, but it's probably because he can't relate to anybody. IE he doesn't listen to music, so he doesn't have a favorite song, so nobody has a favorite song. And so on. Even though in his favorite shows if the character doesn't have an obvious absolute favorite something, you could probably nail down their overall favorite of that type (music genre, movie genre, and so on).

Given how even his most developed characters just are nobody, I would ask him what he actually thinks anybody would find appealing about his show where its caricatures have less depth than cardboard, the basis is on a concept that only exists to prove a child-first society can not work as demonstrated time and again, and obviously there is absolutely no merchandising potential which is a big driver with cartoons.

 

[LiquidKid]

He wastes time and effort on scripts, paying for art, and coming up with more background characters, but not actually developing anyone. I don't know if it's a sign of the 'tism or not, but it's probably because he can't relate to anybody. IE he doesn't listen to music, so he doesn't have a favorite song, so nobody has a favorite song. And so on. Even though in his favorite shows if the character doesn't have an obvious absolute favorite something, you could probably nail down their overall favorite of that type (music genre, movie genre, and so on).

Yeah, he definitely doesn’t understand what makes a character a character, which is probably why all of his are just monotone collections of tropes

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Given how even his most developed characters just are nobody, I would ask him what he actually thinks anybody would find appealing about his show where its caricatures have less depth than cardboard, the basis is on a concept that only exists to prove a child-first society can not work as demonstrated time and again, and obviously there is absolutely no merchandising potential which is a big driver with cartoons.

That's another thing that is definitely wrong with his show from a marketing perspective because Enter's character designs are all horrible or bland that no one would want any merchandise from Growing Around (save for Ryan) to support the trainwreck.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

and obviously there is absolutely no merchandising potential which is a big driver with cartoons.

Don't let Enter hear you say that. Cartoons being abruptly cancelled because they didn't sell enough toys is a very hot-button topic for him (or at least, it was in 2014 and I don't see why he'd change his mind.) He honestly believes animation should be able to sell itself, which might be feasible for theatrical films or physical home releases, but for television or online streaming (Especially streaming with "no pay walls," as Enter demands it,) ads and personal donations alone will never cover that shit. Even on channels like PBS, it's more likely than not a show is going to die when "Viewers Like You" is their only sponsor credit.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

That's another thing that is definitely wrong with his show from a marketing perspective because Enter's character designs are all horrible or bland that no one would want any merchandise from Growing Around (save for Ryan) to support the trainwreck.

All his characters are either too bland looking (like Sally) or eye-searing (like Anna) there's no middle ground.

Let's look at Sally, because she's the main character and her design doesn't work IMO. There's a pawprint on her shirt for some reason, even though there's nothing about her character that screams "animal lover" or "animal researcher" or anything. She has a stuffed animal, I guess, but that's as far as that goes. Her hair style isn't anything unique, and if you just had her silhouette you wouldn't be able to tell who she was. If I looked at this with no context I'd think she was supposed to be something of a super-outdoorsy, laid back hippie. (Flower in her long hair, animal print shirt, skirt that's green like nature), but she's supposed to be a hyper, kooky Pinky Pie/Mabel Pines clone, so it just doesn't fit.

Honestly, the design he made for Kimiko is more in-line for the 2-quirky-4-u character he's trying to make Sally into:

You'd need to tone down the amount of colors for this to work in animation, but when I look at this I do think this is going to be a super rambunctious, loud character that gets into all sorts of hijinks. But, we're hit with the same problem because that isn't the kind of character he wants Kimiko to be. She's supposed to be shy and awkward, as stated here. (Kathy was her old name.)

He doesn't seem to think through these designs and how they inform a viewer about a character. I wonder if he's ever really paid attention to that in the shows he watches, because he really ought to if he wants to improve at this.