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Went to the commissary early today. Got there about 8:35 a.m. Item limits largely removed except for paper products, fresh meat and poultry, hand sanitizer, and certain cleaning stuff. A few thin shelves, but improvement continues. Got almost everything on the list but one item. Still need to wear a mask, no guests, can only use one cart. Hope they keep the "no guests" rule. But I miss not having my usual two carts.

Not that much meat when I got there. Paid about $10 each for two steaks usually costing half as much. No ground beef at the time. Some pork and chicken, but paid little attention since we didn't need any. Fresh cherries still $3.99/pound.
 
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1-Spanish researchers prove that certain antiinflamatory medicine inhibit an enzime necessary for coronavirus replication.
Now, we all knew certain antiinflamatories worked but now they proved why they do and what they are inhibiting which allows for the creation of more direct antimicrobians. Ladies and gentlemen, we gor her!
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I can't read Spanish: what's the drug?

Drug repurposing is such an interesting area I'm half seriously considering learning the necessary pharmacology to do some relevant work there one day. Never thought there was so much money on the table, so to speak, until I started reading about it recently. Interesting trivia I learned: apparently Didier Raoult's hydroxychloroquine monomania apparently derives from him successfully discovering it (along with doxycycline) as a treatment in Q fever and Whipple disease. Journal overview on drug repurposing: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6097480/
 
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I can't read Spanish: what's the drug?

Drug repurposing is such an interesting area I'm half seriously considering learning the necessary pharmacology to do some relevant work there one day. Never thought there was so much money on the table, so to speak, until I started reading about it recently. Interesting trivia I learned: apparently Didier Raoult's hydroxychloroquine monomania apparently derives from him successfully discovering it (along with doxycycline) as a treatment in Q fever and Whipple disease. Journal overview on drug repurposing: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6097480/
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They tried 2: Celecoxib and Carprofen but from what we've seen there's even more antiinflamatories out there that showed anecdotam evidence and by the language they used, they know damned well a lot more will work, these were used as models. What they expect is to later be able to synthethize a better drug (they only inhibit replication to some degree. Enough to be used for paliative care, not enough to actually help end the infection substantialy faster.)
 
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What an exceptional individual. Cases Untreated needlestick/lab accidents and contaminated blood causing CD4 wipeout and pneumocystis are living examples. Meh, cant argue with these people though, they’re operating on faith not evidence. I wonder if they’d accept a unit of HIV infected blood?
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thats question was answered when bayer had to pay in 1995
 
Michigan, USA

Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) will testify on Tuesday before a U.S. House subcommittee on energy and commerce oversight and investigation, which is taking testimony on state responses to the pandemic. Also testifying will be Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) and Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R).
(archive)

Michigan United for Liberty, a group which has organized some protests at the state capitol and filed a lawsuit against Governor Whitmer's executive orders, is looking for people who have been discriminated against for not wearing masks, but only if the person in question was medically unable to tolerate one.
www.michiganunitedforliberty.com

Mask Discrimination Survey

www.michiganunitedforliberty.com
(archive)

A group called Guarding Against Government Excess has officially filed its petition to recall Governor Whitmer. They hope to begin collecting signatures in a month or so. A recall would require about 1,062,646 signatures within 60 days, and then there would be a vote at the next general election.
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Our petition language was officially filed with the Bureau of Elections on 5/27/2020 and reads as follows: "Gretchen Whitmer, by issuing Executive Order 2020-09, "Temporary restrictions on the use of places of public accommodation," and extending said restrictions through Executive Orders 2020-21, 2020-43, 2020-70, 2020-92 and 2020-96 has forced the closure of Michigan businesses, contributing to a seasonally adjusted jobless rate in April of 22.7 percent. This monthly jump of 18.4 percentage points has resulted in Michigan's jobless rate growing 8.0 percent above the U.S. national unemployment rate growth of 10.3%"
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Ford-Wyoming Drive-In Theater in Dearborn, reopened early this morning, the 29th, in defiance of Governor Whimer's executive orders, was promptly served with a cease-and-desist order, and has complied.
(archive)

Not directly related to Corona, but partially in reaction to our earlier protests at the state capitol, a group of armed Black protestors gathered to exercise their right to peacefully carry firearms and to protest police brutality.
"I want to present myself as an adult black man, fully armed and not a danger," said Stephen Alexander, 46, of Lansing, who carried a pistol outside the Capitol building during the event. "If you are not a danger to me, I am not dangerous.
"It's as simple as that."
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SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN
Shelter-in-place order from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1, Friday, May 15, May 28, but May 22 for the farthest north, May 21, kind of? But also June 12 May 1, maybe? (archive May 21) (executive order saved on KF) . The Republican-controlled legislature has refused to extend Governor Whitmer's emergency authority. Governor Whitmer insists her emergency orders are all still in effect (Rundown on the laws).
State attorney general Dana Nessel (D) is also leaving enforcement of the stay-at-home order to local discretion until the courts weigh in on it (archive). She has stated Governor Whitmer's orders are valid and are to be enforced (archive). The legislature is not calling for civil disobedience at this time (archive).
The legislature has filed a lawsuit against the governor (archive). Oral arguments were heard May 15 (archive). A Court of Claims judge has ruled in favor of the governor. The legislature has appealed.
State senate leader Mike Shirkey (R) is also supporting a petition drive to change the law. Such a petition would require 340,047 signatures to be collected. It would be veto-proof if approved by the legislature, and would go on the next general election ballot if denied by them (archive 1, archive 2, archive 3).
U. S. Rep Paul Mitchell (R - The Thumb) has filed a lawsuit independently against Governor Whitmer, in federal district court. Link, pdf on KF. He has also founded a committee to work on the petition recommended by Sen. Shirkey.
There have been over a dozen lawsuits against Governor Whitmer's actions during this crisis, mostly regarding the shut-down order, in various stages of progress and in various courts (summary of eight of them). However, "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" are suspended until the end of the states of emergency and disaster. Executive order, and thus in limbo. (archive).

OTHER SHUTDOWNS
Recap from NPR
Major protest at the State Capitol April 15 (A&N thread). Minor protest outside Governor's Mansion April 23 (archive). Protest at the State Capitol April 30 (A&N Thread). Protest at the capitol May 14 (archive).
Auto manufacturing resuming May 18. (archive).
Retail opening May 26, with restrictions. Medical procedures officially resuming May 29.

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment reached 22.7% in April. (Archive - May 20). It should be lower now, as factories, etc. reopen.
Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel is nearly back to normal (website).
The State is facing a $2.5 billion budget shortage (archive).

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a mistake in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive). Article on results, May 8 (archive).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
State of affairs May 5 - about half as many hospitalized cases and ICU cases as on April 12 (archive).
Detroit field hospital, capacity 1,000, closed. Never had many more than 20 at any time. (archive, May 7).
The state is going to add "probable" deaths from Coronavirus to our death tolls. (archive - May 20)

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). It was an executive order. Who knows if it's still valid?
Detroit shootings up, but most other crime down (archive - April 30); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. (Still valid???) Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Multiple sherrifs from the rural north to Detroit suburbs have stated they will not be enforcing or not strictly enforcing parts or the entirety of the order (archive). An increasing number of businesses are quietly ignoring or publicy defying the shut-down orders.

OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services reviews deaths and adds overlooked cases to the count three days a week: Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday (usually). Recovery counts are updated on Saturdays.
17 deaths were added yesterday.

MDHHS said:
Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website.
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Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

35,154 confirmed / 4,193 dead
34,926 confirmed / 4,168 dead yesterday
(i.e. 25 new deaths, up 12 from this day last week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

21,467 confirmed / 1,213 dead
21,088 confirmed / 1,204 dead yesterday
(i.e. 9 new deaths, down 7 from this day last week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

56,621 confirmed / 5,406 dead
56,014 confirmed / 5,372 dead yesterday
(i.e. 34 new deaths, up 5 from this day last week)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 21.
We were locked down from: March 24 (until April 30? May 21),
Masks have been mandatory in stores since: April 27 (until April 30?).

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
50*** / -1^ / 6 / 8 / 38*** / 17*** / 25 = 150***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 44, 14, and 17 statewide deaths, respectively, were added on these days upon State review. I don't know how many were in Detroit.
^ 4 deaths were subtracted from Detroit City's total, and 3 deaths reported elsewhere in the tri-county.
One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store. Multiple suspects are in custody (archive, A&N thread).
 
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From my viewpoint, he's just stating the obvious. These one-size-fits-all house arrests have been one of the worst things to happen in the USA in years. Not a lick of common sense used in devising these house arrests, just political power plays. But after what's happened with these various little Hitlers, especially CA, NY, MI, and probably HI, plus all the law enforcement misbehavior, believe it will be very difficult to get any broad-based cooperation when a calamity happens in the future. Believe there will be trouble if "they" try another set of house arrests later on, should a "second wave" hit. The people have seen Big Brother and the Thought Police in action, and they don't like what they've seen.

reason.com

In Future Crises, Let People Make Their Own Decisions

Top-down, one-size-fits-few mandates are recipes for conflict.
reason.com reason.com

 
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From my viewpoint, he's just stating the obvious. These one-size-fits-all house arrests have been one of the worst things to happen in the USA in years. Not a lick of common sense used in devising these house arrests, just political power plays. But after what's happened with these various little Hitlers, especially CA, NY, MI, and probably HI, plus all the law enforcement misbehavior, believe it will be very difficult to get any broad-based cooperation when a calamity happens in the future. Believe there will be trouble if "they" try another set of house arrests later on, should a "second wave" hit. The people have seen Big Brother and the Thought Police in action, and they don't like what they've seen.

reason.com

In Future Crises, Let People Make Their Own Decisions

Top-down, one-size-fits-few mandates are recipes for conflict.
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That’s how it should have been: people making their own decisions. People believe that these elected buffoons are magically transformed into biologists and physicians when they can’t even manage a checkbook.

The interesting part is how many experts were proven panickmongers and completely unreliable. Hopefully someone connects the dots that the majority of scientific published and peer-reviewed studies are not repeatable or reproducible, therefore made up.

Politicians eventually understand practicality if it threatens their power and between lawsuitand a steady stream of egg on their faces maybe now they will cease to treat these experts as priests and more like the grifters that they are.

This is the result. The future does not look so bright now.

Some theorize that with this widespread cuckery and degeneracy, we are due for a correction where society will make and extreme shift rightward. The law of Enthropy negates this. It will be interesting to see, painful but interesting.
 
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That’s how it should have been: people making their own decisions. People believe that these elected buffoons are magically transformed into biologists and physicians when they can’t even manage a checkbook.

The interesting part is how many experts were proven panickmongers and completely unreliable. Hopefully someone connects the dots that the majority of scientific published and peer-reviewed studies are not repeatable or reproducible, therefore made up.

Politicians eventually understand practicality if it threatens their power and between lawsuitand a steady stream of egg on their faces maybe now they will cease to treat these experts as priests and more like the grifters that they are.

This is the result. The future does not look so bright now.

Some theorize that with this widespread cuckery and degeneracy, we are due for a correction where society will make and extreme shift rightward. The law of Enthropy negates this. It will be interesting to see, painful but interesting.
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Yup.

Here's what has really gotten me. None of these "geniuses" who put their entire states under house arrest even seemed to entertain the thought that tax revenues will decline dramatically as a result. Now states are hollering for bailouts from Washington, which I fervently hope don't happen. Under the "two-week" plan, any decline in tax revenues should have been rather manageable. But these little Hitlers' lust for power apparently removed any common sense. So NFG for these little Hitlers. They fucked themselves, and you never get fucked as thoroughly as when you fuck yourself.

The economic damage from the ChiCom Flu will be fixed much faster than the social damage. Believe social damage will take much longer to fix, even partially.
 
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Yup.

Here's what has really gotten me. None of these "geniuses" who put their entire states under house arrest even seemed to entertain the thought that tax revenues will decline dramatically as a result. Now states are hollering for bailouts from Washington, which I fervently hope don't happen. Under the "two-week" plan, any decline in tax revenues should have been rather manageable. But these little Hitlers' lust for power apparently removed any common sense. So NFG for these little Hitlers. They fucked themselves, and you never get fucked as thoroughly as when you fuck yourself.

The economic damage from the ChiCom Flu will be fixed much faster than the social damage. Believe social damage will take much longer to fix, even partially.
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It’s a risky move: suffocating the economy to beat the Orange Man. If they lose, they lose big.

Now it seems Trump has split with WHO permanently and he’s going after China.

Things will be interesting but not in a good way.
 
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From a couple of days ago - these MSNPC stooges are delivering yet another sanctimonious lecture chastising anyone who won't wear a mask in public. The intrepid field reporter whines how "nobody's wearing them", when a passerby suddenly interjects: "including the cameraman."

Field reporter then nervously ADMITS it lol - "There you go, including the cameraman... yeah!" right before throwing his arms up in defeat and then, looking downward in shame, sends it back to the studio.

And so they cut back to the studio and end the segment, but not before the passerby reveals another interesting tidbit: "Half the crew's not wearing them."

As a bonus, the dumb studio reporter confuses Wisconsin with Washington. 🤪

FAKE NEWS at its finest. These people just can't get enough of embarrassing themselves I guess.


EDIT: added the video recorded by the guy who calls them out

 
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From a couple of days ago - these MSNPC stooges are delivering yet another sanctimonious lecture chastising anyone who won't wear a mask in public. The intrepid field reporter whines how "nobody's wearing them", when a passerby suddenly interjects: "including the cameraman."

Field reporter then nervously ADMITS it lol - "There you go, including the cameraman... yeah!" right before throwing his arms up in defeat and then, looking downward in shame, sends it back to the studio.

And so they cut back to the studio and end the segment, but not before the passerby reveals another interesting tidbit: "Half the crew's not wearing them."

As a bonus, the dumb studio reporter confuses Wisconsin with Washington. 🤪

FAKE NEWS at its finest. These people just can't get enough of embarrassing themselves I guess.

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Lol! Science has turned into a religion. None of these mongs know that there has been no study done on the effectiveness of masks in anything other than a hospital setting.

Carrying a scapulary is probably more effective than this stupid mask enforcement.

We are living out an episode out of South Park but with and economic depression.
 
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We are living out an episode out of South Park but with and economic depression.
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As I was walking around the supermarket in late March-April with everyone wearing masks (before it was mandatory), I literally pictured Stan Marsh in my exact situation.
 
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Outside China

5,843,132 confirmed / 360,373 dead / 2,416,262 recovered

5719310 / 355153 / 2336589 yesterday

USA

1,747,087 confirmed / 102,836 dead / 406,446 recovered JohnHopkins
1,745,378 confirmed / 102,958 dead / 519,569 recovered Infection2020

1721479 / 101573 / 399991 yesterday JohnHopkins
1723449 / 101758 / 498725 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

238,564 confirmed / 27,121 dead / 150,376 recovered

237906 / 27119 / 150376 yesterday

Italy

232,248 confirmed / 33,229 dead / 152,844 recovered

231732 / 33142 / 150604 yesterday

France

186,923 confirmed / 28,717 dead / 67,921 recovered

186364 / 28665 / 67309 yesterday

Germany

182,922 confirmed / 8,504 dead / 164,245 recovered

182196 / 8470 / 163360 yesterday
 
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Expect Defcon-1 level REEEEING from liberals and their cock-holsters in the media when corona cases spike in all those cities 2 weeks from now.

Liberals were cackling with glee at the prospect of the armed people who stormed the Capitol in Lansing catching the Wuhan flu and spreading it in their communities. Let's see how they like the shoe on the other foot.
 
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The Whole EU thing is retarded... once again an Austrian Stands alone against the waves of Commies trying to take over Europe...
Kurz says no to the EU plan.
 
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