Twitter Hides POTUS Tweet

The EO mentions "good faith" several times, and as far as I can see none of them say it's about complying with his secret personal likes or dislikes or whatever:

"In particular, subparagraph (c)(2) expressly addresses protections from “civil liability” and specifies that an interactive computer service provider may not be made liable “on account of” its decision in “good faith” to restrict access to content that it considers to be “obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing or otherwise objectionable.” It is the policy of the United States to ensure that, to the maximum extent permissible under the law, this provision is not distorted to provide liability protection for online platforms that — far from acting in “good faith” to remove objectionable content — instead engage in deceptive or pretextual actions (often contrary to their stated terms of service) to stifle viewpoints with which they disagree."

Of import seems to be "deceptive or pretextual actions (often contrary to their stated terms of service) to stifle viewpoints with which they disagree." So here the EO criticizes social media not for the content they HOST, but for they content they unfairly REMOVE under the guise of it being "objectionable." Doesn't seem like that applies here, since the farms doesn't really ever seem to remove any legal content or ban people for their opinions no matter if they're stupid or offensive or whatever

Here's the next two references:

"(ii) the conditions under which an action restricting access to or availability of material is not “taken in good faith” within the meaning of subparagraph (c)(2)(A) of section 230, particularly whether actions can be “taken in good faith” if they are:

(A) deceptive, pretextual, or inconsistent with a provider’s terms of service; or

(B) taken after failing to provide adequate notice, reasoned explanation, or a meaningful opportunity to be heard; and"

again, the mentions of "in good faith" don't seem at all to removing liability protections for hosting things "he doesn't like." Rather, it seems to be saying that shit like social media removing or manipulating mundane content they disagree with en masse, without proper cause or warning, having little to no appeal process, letting blue checkmarks with the Proper Opinions slide, but all the while claiming to be an impartial platform that should receive special liability protection meant to foster free speech, isn't "acting in good faith." Again, unless I'm super exceptional I don't see how that applies to the farms or any other website that hosts controversial content. It's about unfair content curation and removal, not the content itself. You don't censor anything legal, it's pretty clear what few things will get you banned or censored here, and I've never seen you do anything like go mad with power and ban swaths of people you disagree with ala SA/Reddit/Twitter. What am I missing here? :(
Expecting Janny Jewsh or any of the other doomers to actually acknowledge the substance of the EO
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I'm so tired of people pretending that a lying politician isn't an anomaly.



You actually don't have a damn idea about what's been happening the last five months and it's staggeringly obvious. Even going on to A&N or Happenings, or-- I dunno-- going and watching/listening to C-SPAN would have prevented you from saying something so flagrantly asinine.



As opposed to the 2 million they were initially projecting in the absence of any mitigation.



You also don't know how business works on a fundamental level. If he was truly incompetent, all of the businesses of his that currently stand could have and would have gone under. I don't not buy that his father was better than him, but excuse me if I don't think that someone whose extent of knowledge of the national response to the pandemic doesn't extend much beyond the frothiest mouths of Breadtube.



You mean the electorate? Shoot, tell that to the people denigrating his base as uniformly racist backwater hicks.



Your ignorance is on full display in this comment. You seriously think that even a CEO doesn't have to do any work such that he'd be completely unprepared to do more than "very little" of it in a larger venue.



Sure, he has.



Universal healthcare? In a country of 300+ million? A country that's actually a federation of semi-autonomous states with their own governmental and economic structures, some of which by themselves have populations that rival those of countries with nationalized healthcare? You probably thought Bernie Sanders was a visionary and never thought to question how much the yearly cost of his "medicare for all" would be-- never mind that regardless of the excesses of the pharmacy industries and the insurance companies, they need money to even hope to innovate.



You're not arguing that he wouldn't "think about" the ramifications of what he's supposedly doing, you're arguing that he's somehow blind enough to shoot himself in the foot without considering the very obvious immediate consequences to his own goals, despite the wording of the EO he just put out, despite being a businessman, and despite having the decision making capacity of the Executive Branch.



If they wanted to fact-check his opinion with an opinion, doesn't that defeat the purpose of their fact-checking initiative? What would even be the point? The primary issue is that they're the ones that get to decide what articles serve as good and helpful fact-checks.
You're making a massive amount of assumptions and your 'mindless' is starting to show. Honestly watching Trumptards froth at the mouth and desperately try and defend his ever increasing swing towards total madness is great entertainment because I get to watch that shitshow from across a very large ocean. I'm not going to go back over every point you've made because I can't be bothered and I'll preempt you declaring victory because, like Trump, getting your opponent to the point where they can't be bothered to try and decrese your levels of dumb isn't a victory, it's a pity party.
 
I don't see why it is so outlandish to stop supporting Trump over one of his terrible, hastily put together tweet legislations. It isn't like we're all saying that Hillary was right all along, just that Trump needs to get his mind out of the gutter.

I think the bigger issue is the key phrase being thrown around - "Good faith" because this means that it would be left to the courts to define good faith in any meaning they see fit.
 
So are “officially off the Trump train” now because he made a dumb Tweet?
I am done with Donald J. Trump because he has continually shown himself to be a pawn to Israel and Jewish interests while completing none of his campaign pledges and is now threatening the very foundation of American online enterprise which made us dominant in the field to begin with.
 
You're making a massive amount of assumptions and your 'mindless' is starting to show. Honestly watching Trumptards froth at the mouth and desperately try and defend his ever increasing swing towards total madness is great entertainment because I get to watch that shitshow from across a very large ocean.
Not defending him, but it’s not like the UK is in any better shape than America.
 
The EO mentions "good faith" several times, and as far as I can see none of them say it's about complying with his secret personal likes or dislikes or whatever:

"In particular, subparagraph (c)(2) expressly addresses protections from “civil liability” and specifies that an interactive computer service provider may not be made liable “on account of” its decision in “good faith” to restrict access to content that it considers to be “obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing or otherwise objectionable.” It is the policy of the United States to ensure that, to the maximum extent permissible under the law, this provision is not distorted to provide liability protection for online platforms that — far from acting in “good faith” to remove objectionable content — instead engage in deceptive or pretextual actions (often contrary to their stated terms of service) to stifle viewpoints with which they disagree."

Of import seems to be "deceptive or pretextual actions (often contrary to their stated terms of service) to stifle viewpoints with which they disagree." So here the EO criticizes social media not for the content they HOST, but for they content they unfairly REMOVE under the guise of it being "objectionable." Doesn't seem like that applies here, since the farms doesn't really ever seem to remove any legal content or ban people for their opinions no matter if they're stupid or offensive or whatever

Here's the next two references:

"(ii) the conditions under which an action restricting access to or availability of material is not “taken in good faith” within the meaning of subparagraph (c)(2)(A) of section 230, particularly whether actions can be “taken in good faith” if they are:

(A) deceptive, pretextual, or inconsistent with a provider’s terms of service; or

(B) taken after failing to provide adequate notice, reasoned explanation, or a meaningful opportunity to be heard; and"

again, the mentions of "in good faith" don't seem at all to removing liability protections for hosting things "he doesn't like." Rather, it seems to be saying that shit like social media removing or manipulating mundane content they disagree with en masse, without proper cause or warning, having little to no appeal process, letting blue checkmarks with the Proper Opinions slide, but all the while claiming to be an impartial platform that should receive special liability protection meant to foster free speech, isn't "acting in good faith." Again, unless I'm super exceptional I don't see how that applies to the farms or any other website that hosts controversial content. It's about unfair content curation and removal, not the content itself. You don't censor anything legal, it's pretty clear what few things will get you banned or censored here, and I've never seen you do anything like go mad with power and ban swaths of people you disagree with ala SA/Reddit/Twitter. What am I missing here? :(
Everything you say here is reasonable and facially correct. I think what’s being suggested is that legislation is subject to administrative capture and once the executive starts poking around, regulators are going to start finding new and exciting ways to undermine the original intent of the law and punish people they don’t like. Congress can’t be fussed to actually defend the legislation because as previously stated in this thread, there’s bipartisan interest in destroying legal protections for various reasons. Successive administrations will continue to whittle away at the law and create exceptions that didn’t originally exist and in ten years the internet will be a sanitized hellscape of banality and reinforced groupthink.

Tl;dr: slippery slope argument.
 
I am done with Donald J. Trump because he has continually shown himself to be a pawn to Israel and Jewish interests while completing none of his campaign pledges and is now threatening the very foundation of American online enterprise which made us dominant in the field to begin with.

But...but....Drumpf is a NATZEEEEEEEE!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
 
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What the fuck happened to this place? It's slowly turning into reddit. The CoronoaChan thread is 1700+ pages of doomers. This place used to be the cool kids who skipped school, now it's band class with all of the scuttlebutt talk.

Get a grip faggots, it'll be okay.

Ah yes kiwi farms used to be full of super cool guys, back in the old days of 2019.
 
I hear a man is walking from village to village in Serbia, whispering reminders of the horrors of the NATO bombings, and how something needs to be done against the yankee pigs...
 
I am done with Donald J. Trump because he has continually shown himself to be a pawn to Israel and Jewish interests while completing none of his campaign pledges and is now threatening the very foundation of American online enterprise which made us dominant in the field to begin with.
Based and blackpilled.
 
I am done with Donald J. Trump because he has continually shown himself to be a pawn to Israel and Jewish interests while completing none of his campaign pledges and is now threatening the very foundation of American online enterprise which made us dominant in the field to begin with.
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“After the live-streamed mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand last spring, Democratic lawmakers sought changes to 230 as a method of ensuring that terrorist content is removed from platforms. They’ve responded to Facebook’s refusal to remove misinformation peddled by politicians in digital ads with threats to carve holes in the law as well.
...”

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...section-230-communications-decency-act-revoke

The other guy literally wants repeal § 230, specifically for the purpose of targeting you.
 
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“After the live-streamed mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand last spring, Democratic lawmakers sought changes to 230 as a method of ensuring that terrorist content is removed from platforms. They’ve responded to Facebook’s refusal to remove misinformation peddled by politicians in digital ads with threats to carve holes in the law as well.
...”

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...section-230-communications-decency-act-revoke

The other guy literally wants repeal § 230, specifically for the purpose of targeting you.
All I know is none of this would be happening if John McAfee was president.
 
Null maybe this is an opportunity, maybe now's the time for you to message Trump while he's still mad and offer to setup the volkstwitter for him, make him think it was his idea, it'll be great, fuck Trump, but a patsys a patsy.
Yes why not get trump to tweet #kiwifarms 2 while your at it, truly a big brained move
All I know is none of this would be happening if John McAfee was president.
We would also probably have free crack and tin foil house covers if he was in charge, unironically based mcAfee
 
Ah yes kiwi farms used to be full of super cool guys, back in the old days of 2019.

No kidding-- this place couldn't have been ""cool"" since at least January 17, 2017.

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“After the live-streamed mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand last spring, Democratic lawmakers sought changes to 230 as a method of ensuring that terrorist content is removed from platforms. They’ve responded to Facebook’s refusal to remove misinformation peddled by politicians in digital ads with threats to carve holes in the law as well.
...”

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...section-230-communications-decency-act-revoke

The other guy literally wants repeal § 230, specifically for the purpose of targeting you.

I think Null gets that. Not liking anyone on the field is also a valid position.
 
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