I always wondered if these people ever attended any history courses. I attended one that was about the Soviet Union, and my lecturer always talked about the atrocities and censorship committed by the Politburo and expresses disdain at anyone who worships that era of Russian history.
ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies
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I always wondered if these people ever attended any history courses. I attended one that was about the Soviet Union, and my lecturer always talked about the atrocities and censorship committed by the Politburo and expresses disdain at anyone who worships that era of Russian history.
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From that same subreddit ... source for the list is given as some BLM traffic on Telegram:
https://archive.fo/trmEs
To be honest the moment the pandemic exploded onto the world stage i was counting down the days until riots start.Any societally upending event causes riots and even civil wars eventually.There's a reason why after WW1 many countries collapsed into anarchy.You can't simply upend everyone's life even for a few months without some consequences.I was surprised by how fast they came in the US.Although in fairness other countries are seeing severe strife right now like Chile.I was expecting the riots to start next year or maybe this autumn.I didn't think they'd start when the pandemic has barely subsided from its peaks.I know the riots started because of George Floyd but the real subtext is linked to the epidemic and how much its upended everyone's life and how much its made everyone paranoid.I guess americans wanted to be ahead of the curve.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of this is indeed venting over that, what happened to Floyd was just the excuse to do this, but this still very, very stupid.
Even if this doesn't cause another infection spike, for which I am not optimistic about, all this going to do is more economic damage and the original purported cause is not going to improve at all by this.
If anything, I'm just a bit disgusted the rioters are getting support from the usual suspects even when the rioters themselves aren't even bothering with but the faintest of pretense this is not more than just an excuse to burn and loot.
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The logic of mob violence doesn't care about guilt or innocence.That's the basic truth once law and order break down it really is everyone for themselves and to hope that somehow the protesters the cops or even the military will be nice to you because 'you didn't do nothin'' is naive.Americans may take pride in their Army but if it came to it being used as riot control nobody should be naive enough to think the average private is gonna be 'nice' because people have said 'thank you for your service' for 20 years.If anything the fact that the military has only seen counterinsurgency is bad news when it comes to how they would view not just participants in such events but average folk who are in the neighborhood.And no it doesn't matter if you're a 16 year old teen or grandpa Joe who was in 'Nam.
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Oh man, this is going to piss so many people off. Watch Twitter boys, there's going to be so much salt to mine...
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I want to believe, but he tweets shit out without committing to it with any concrete actions a lot of the time.
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The most important thing about this is the Feds can now go after financial backers.
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Even if he doesn't actually go through with it, it does mean Antifa and their backers are now scared shitless of being rounded up by the Feds and arrested in droves, so they're gonna resort to doing what the underground movement of the 60s (or whatever that was) did and hide indefinitely in basements or whatever the fuck. If any do get arrested, I wouldn't be surprised if "ThIs Is An InJuStIcE aGaInSt AmErIcA aNd EvErYtHiNg AbOuT iT" is the first thing you hear every morning echoing across the prison walls.
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It is important that Trump designate the TORCH Antifa Network and other anarcho-terrorist cells in his list of Antifa terrorist organizations. Just called "Antifa" a terrorist organization won't do anything. He needs to be specific. Here is more about this nation-wide terror cell. Getting the TORCH Antifa Network labeled a terrorist organization would be hilarious, especially in light of all the victims they have claimed.
https://wmkinstitute.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-torch-antifa-network-anarcho.html
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Get fucked, you commie bastards. McCarthy did nothing wrong.
WarJams
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Current pisstake from the type of idiots who would use twitter is literally "b-b-but the KKK."
Of course, since they are witheringly ignorant of history and the law they wouldn't know a god damn thing about legislation like the Enforcement Acts, passed to crush the KKK in the 1870s, and which largely succeeded in breaking the organization's back once the Federal government decided it was sick and goddamn tired of complicit state government's allowing a terrorist organization to trample over the rights of citizens.
One problem the US has when it comes to riots is the lack of a dedicated riot control force.In Europe riots are usually handled by gendarmes.In the US its cops and if those fail the National Guard and finally the Army.Gendarmes even poorly trained ones are usually far better at riot control than National Guardsmen.Primarily because they're full time.During normal times they're basically assistance to regular cops and during times of strife they take over.There's no comparison between how competent carabinieri are compared to your average guardsman.Your average carabinieri is at a whole different level of competence.
Precisely because they're trained for these situations and they'll full time they don't spend the entire year working at a store then suddenly get deployed to a city they normally rarely see.US cops are honestly severely undertrained for riots and incapable of handling major incidents.So the result is either they fall back and let rioters do whatever or they intervene too forcefully and often harm innocent civilians.And the Guard is also severely lacking in training primarily because their main job is to be a reservist force for the Army.Of course a US Gendarmerie is close to impossible to create partly out of historical reasons partly because of various laws regarding using the military for civilian law enforcement.The downside is that in Europe protesters are used to gendarmes so they tend to know how to handle them.Most europeans have a pretty good idea how riot control happens so gendarmes still have their work cut out for them.But if you were to take several thousand gendarmes say from the French Gendarmerie and send them into a US city they'd have the whole thing under control in a couple of hours.
Precisely because they're trained for these situations and they'll full time they don't spend the entire year working at a store then suddenly get deployed to a city they normally rarely see.US cops are honestly severely undertrained for riots and incapable of handling major incidents.So the result is either they fall back and let rioters do whatever or they intervene too forcefully and often harm innocent civilians.And the Guard is also severely lacking in training primarily because their main job is to be a reservist force for the Army.Of course a US Gendarmerie is close to impossible to create partly out of historical reasons partly because of various laws regarding using the military for civilian law enforcement.The downside is that in Europe protesters are used to gendarmes so they tend to know how to handle them.Most europeans have a pretty good idea how riot control happens so gendarmes still have their work cut out for them.But if you were to take several thousand gendarmes say from the French Gendarmerie and send them into a US city they'd have the whole thing under control in a couple of hours.
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To build onto this, from what I understand the National Guard being deployed don't have ammo in their guns, or at least not magazines.
This is gonna get real fun real fast when National Guard are being killed in the streets.
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The brand awareness is pretty memetic at this point and a new name does shit for covering up the same people, methods, and tactics.
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I dunno, just ask the White Nationalist movement how well re-branding and coming up with new names for their movement worked out for them.
The same thing will happen to Antifa and other left-wing anarchist and communist movements at this point, especially since the DOJ and FBI are launching investigations into the wider Antifa networks and apparently have some major information on several major Antifa groups and their de facto ringleaders and organizers.
Once they get added to the terrorist roster, it's game over for Antifa. At best, they're gonna find themselves in the same boat as their white supremacist adversaries and the so-called "Alt Right" wound up in.
I dunno if this was just shitposting, but apparently people on /pol/ are saying MSM outlets like CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News are more or less denouncing Antifa and pinning the blame on them for the severity and widespread nature of the riots. I'm going to double check to see if that's true.
If the MSM is saying anything bad about Antifa instead of pussyfooting around like CNN and the New York Times or openly praising them like the clickbait mills so often do, then it's a sure sign that Antifa and the far left have officially outlived their usefulness for the neoliberal elite
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Portland's police dept. has released booking photos/charges of some of the morons in the riot.
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Sir Wesley Tailpipe
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The American system is the way it is street-level policing is not one unified, national police force and because there is a constitutional separation between police and the military, meaning the National Guard are only deployed when things get so bad that the local police have lost control.
Also, the French have better riot response because it’s a weekly thing for parts of Paris to be set on fire by Moroccans and other ex-colonials throwing a fit. If civil unrest became a weekend hobby for half the population in the states, they’d have the response down to a science too. Also, you guys have no presumption of innocence in your criminal law, so the cops have way more leeway.