Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[snailslime]

appeal to authority fallacy, nice try.

it's not nice to ignore people!

have you ever taken an iq test? if so please post your results

 

[AnOminous]

have you ever taken an iq test? if so please post your results

He was literally too retarded to take the test.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Complicit. The word you're looking for is complicit.



"Silence is violence". Wow. That's right up there with "words are violence".

I notice that at the far end, the extreme far-right racial nationalists always end up sounding exactly like SJWs. Neither of them actually have anything to be proud of, so they speak entirely in tones of ressentiment.

No, that's not a typo. Resentment and ressentiment are two entirely different things.

Nobody is impressed by victimhood. It doesn't matter which side it's coming from. If you present yourself as a victim and try to appeal to the sympathy of others, people who are wise to the scheme will always trample on you. Guaranteed.

This is why the internet is so shit nowadays. Everyone is increasingly conditioned to play Oppression Olympics, to see how far they can belittle themselves for cheap pathos. The reason why this doesn't work is because, eventually, the novelty of it wears thin, and after that point, most people can detect the smug ego beneath your self-effacement and victimhood narratives. They know it isn't genuine.

When someone says "Whites are under attack", what they actually mean is "I am under attack", and consequently, "I feel attacked". You're doing the same exact thing SJWs do. You're concealing personal offense behind a group identity because you think you can universalize it that way.

Take it from me. Nobody gives a rat's ass about your feelings. Nobody should give a rat's ass about your feelings. The more entitled you think you are to the pity of others, the more you should be beaten about the head with the floppy purple dildo bat of reality until you capitulate and accept the truth.

You're all alone. No one's coming to your rescue.

Hey @BoxerShorts47, this is the guy you said had a "lot power level", and even he's shitting on you. And the best part is that he's right. You are a retarded faggot of the highest order.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

You know what else is a fallacy? Ad hominem, AKA that thing that your entire debate strategy is built upon. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house, especially when you've got retard strength.

nah. not fallacy if character matter.

"Silence is violence". Wow. That's right up there with "words are violence".

This is why you're low IQ. you're being told the truth but you cannot process it.
Of course words are violence
spectrum: killing <-> beatings <-> shamings
that's why if you ban murder, ban physical violence than the overton window becomes anything mean = worst form of violence.
when you remove physical violence, you sensitive people to treat words like murder.
this is part of the SJW mentality.

When someone says "Whites are under attack", what they actually mean is "I am under attack", and consequently, "I feel attacked". You're doing the same exact thing SJWs do. You're concealing personal offense behind a group identity because you think you can universalize it that way.

fear and danger are the only ways to break through greed and apathy
This is why events like 9/11 can be used to mobilize the general public.
this is a really really high iq take and one of the ideas for which I am most proud.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Hey @BoxerShorts47, this is the guy you said had a "lot power level", and even he's shitting on you. And the best part is that he's right. You are a retarded faggot of the highest order.

I don't think Truffle Shuffle will figure that out.

 

[snailslime]

nah. not fallacy if character matter.


This is why you're low IQ. you're being told the truth but you cannot process it.
Of course words are violence
spectrum: killing <-> beatings <-> shamings
that's why if you ban murder, ban physical violence than the overton window becomes anything mean = worst form of violence.
when you remove physical violence, you sensitive people to treat words like murder.
this is part of the SJW mentality.


fear and danger are the only ways to break through greed and apathy
This is why events like 9/11 can be used to mobilize the general public.
this is a really really high iq take and one of the ideas for which I am most proud.

why don't you change your avatar, honey?

 

[Token Weeaboo]

Complicit. The word you're looking for is complicit.



"Silence is violence". Wow. That's right up there with "words are violence".

I notice that at the far end, the extreme far-right racial nationalists always end up sounding exactly like SJWs. Neither of them actually have anything to be proud of, so they speak entirely in tones of ressentiment.

No, that's not a typo. Resentment and ressentiment are two entirely different things.

Nobody is impressed by victimhood. It doesn't matter which side it's coming from. If you present yourself as a victim and try to appeal to the sympathy of others, people who are wise to the scheme will always trample on you. Guaranteed.

This is why the internet is so shit nowadays. Everyone is increasingly conditioned to play Oppression Olympics, to see how far they can belittle themselves for cheap pathos. The reason why this doesn't work is because, eventually, the novelty of it wears thin, and after that point, most people can detect the smug ego beneath your self-effacement and victimhood narratives. They know it isn't genuine.

When someone says "Whites are under attack", what they actually mean is "I am under attack", and consequently, "I feel attacked". You're doing the same exact thing SJWs do. You're concealing personal offense behind a group identity because you think you can universalize it that way.

Take it from me. Nobody gives a rat's ass about your feelings. Nobody should give a rat's ass about your feelings. The more entitled you think you are to the pity of others, the more you should be beaten about the head with the floppy purple dildo bat of reality until you capitulate and accept the truth.

You're all alone. No one's coming to your rescue.

nah. not fallacy if character matter.


This is why you're low IQ. you're being told the truth but you cannot process it.
Of course words are violence
spectrum: killing <-> beatings <-> shamings
that's why if you ban murder, ban physical violence than the overton window becomes anything mean = worst form of violence.
when you remove physical violence, you sensitive people to treat words like murder.
this is part of the SJW mentality.


fear and danger are the only ways to break through greed and apathy
This is why events like 9/11 can be used to mobilize the general public.
this is a really really high iq take and one of the ideas for which I am most proud.

It begins.

 

[SIGSEGV]

nah. not fallacy if character matter.

"It's not a fallacy when I do it"
Okay retard.

This is why you're low IQ. you're being told the truth but you cannot process it.
Of course words are violence
spectrum: killing <-> beatings <-> shamings
that's why if you ban murder, ban physical violence than the overton window becomes anything mean = worst form of violence.
when you remove physical violence, you sensitive people to treat words like murder.
this is part of the SJW mentality.

Are you seriously trying to argue with us as if we believe in SJW shit? God you're retarded. Your "arguments" will only work if your opponent is somehow more braindead than you are. Everyone else is just going to point at you and laugh because you're a retard.

 

[AnOminous]

Of course words are violence

Kill yourself SJW.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

why don't you change your avatar, honey?

idk how.
the mods gave me his avatar.
HELP ME!!!
also can you guys edit your posts in this thread?
I cannot.

Are you seriously trying to argue with us as if we believe in SJW shit?

the SJWs discovered the truth, they just misinterpret their findings because of their biases.

 

[Token Weeaboo]

why don't you change your avatar, honey?

Mods locked his ability to change it. I think it's fitting for @BoxerShorts47 and his psychic abilities to sense power levels.

Edit: hey, fuck you for beating me to explaining your dire situation

 

[Analog Devolved]

HELP ME!!!

lmao.

 

[SIGSEGV]

idk how.
the mods gave me his avatar.
HELP ME!!!
also can you guys edit your posts in this thread?
I cannot.

How can you be the savior of the white race if you have to beg the jannies for help? What a pathetic retard you've turned out to be.

the SJWs discovered the truth

Agreeing with SJWs makes you an ally to the SJWs. Please step down from your position as savior of the white race, as you've just demonstrated that you are an enemy to white people everywhere. Once you've stepped down, neck yourself immediately.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

call them freak rights or degenerate rights.
they give minority rule to freaks like homosexuals, transgenders and feminists.
if you're a racist or sexist (you want a white neighborhood or 2 gender norms) you will be fired from your job and attacked by the media and deplatformed.
you got no equality, no civil rights, no tolerance or inclusion for racists or sexists.
human rights and individual liberties are total bullshit, they only apply to the out-group and the in-group (straight white and especially male) gets marginalized.

I thought sexism and racism weren't real things. Isn't that what you were arguing earlier when people called you racist? But now racists and sexists are being discriminated against.

People notice this sort of contradictory bullshit you know. Sure lots of people can be stupid, but normies aren't nearly as stupid as you think they are. Life isn't a video game and you haven't discovered the cheat codes.

Also I'm all for freedom of association, and if you want to live in a commune of gay autistic white men, I fully support it, but what you actually want is to expel everyone from the United States with a darker skin tone than Danny Devito. That's not "inclusive." You're whining about inclusion while arguing for your right to exclude people on a massive scale. Again, nobody is gonna fall for this.

when you are a public figure and the media is questioning you and you are attacking them
they cannot deny white genocide
neither can anyone else with whom you debate
that's why politics have the public megaphone.
many bad faith arguments don't work in the public arena.
but as i said, I think you're undersocialized so this is me trying to teach you "wet."

Or... stick with me here... they'll do exactly what they're already doing right now. They'll point to your other arguments and plans and they'll say, "See? People who complain about anti-whiteness and white genocide really just want to get rid of everyone who's not white. They whine about anti-whiteness but they're anti-everyone else. They whine about white genocide but they're fine with genocide against everyone else. Disingenuous hypocrites. Fuck 'em."

And since in your case that's actually true, it will work. And since that bolsters their argument that "anti-white" is just code for "get rid of all the brown people" it will give people on the left leverage to be more anti-white.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering with this. It's like talking to a severely autistic brick wall, but here we are.

 

[Drain Todger]

This is why you're low IQ. you're being told the truth but you cannot process it.
Of course words are violence
spectrum: killing <-> beatings <-> shamings
that's why if you ban murder, ban physical violence than the overton window becomes anything mean = worst form of violence.
when you remove physical violence, you sensitive people to treat words like murder.
this is part of the SJW mentality.

why do you not capitalize your sentences or use periods?
why do you put everything on a newline
like this is your
retarded op-ed column in
a newspaper?

fear and danger are the only ways to break through greed and apathy
This is why events like 9/11 can be used to mobilize the general public.
this is a really really high iq take and one of the ideas for which I am most proud.

I'm confused. Which is it, again? Did Mossad do 9/11, or did White Nationalists do it?

Either 9/11 was a good thing because it galvanized people like Pearl Harbor or the Reichstag Fire, or it's a bad thing because DA JOOS DID IT. You guys can never make up your minds.

And, oh god, "greed and apathy", he says. Trust me. You will never break the yoke of consumerism. Every dyed-in-wool communist in this country has an iPhone and a MacBook. If you can't even get the anti-consumerists to stop consooming, what makes you think you can appeal to that tendency in conservatives? You cannot even hope to supply a dopamine hit of equal or greater value.

 

[No Exit]

As someone of 160+ IQ who regularly chats with people smarter than me on KF I'd say @BoxerShorts47 is pretty fucking low IQ.

 

[Token Weeaboo]

As someone of 160+ IQ who regularly chats with people smarter than me on KF I'd say @BoxerShorts47 is pretty fucking low IQ.

Pulling out the dirty talk to the guy, careful, he may latch onto you.

 

[Festivus]

Yeah idk about this one chief. Smart people generally don't ask people to fling shit at them for the sole purpose of reinforcing self-worth. Also if you have to come into a chatroom filled with Kiwis to "hone your debate skills" I've got bad news man, half of us are retarded autists and the other half are sarcastic assholes, you really aren't going to get any practice. Anyone with the balls to actually go out and challenge a White Nationalist on their views wouldn't need to come here first because they would have the courage and conviction in their beliefs to do it regardless of consequence.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I thought sexism and racism weren't real things. Isn't that what you were arguing earlier when people called you racist? But now racists and sexists are being discriminated against.

sexism ALWAYS means 2 gender norms.
If you want to treat a women as a women and not a man = sexism.
What the feminists (terfs) call stereotypes.
racism is more complicated.
Regardless, from the liberal perspective these groups exist and they don't offer them any equality or civil rights aka public accommodations.

Also I'm all for freedom of association, and if you want to live in a commune of gay autistic white men, I fully support it, but what you actually want is to expel everyone from the United States with a darker skin tone than Danny Devito. That's not "inclusive." You're whining about inclusion while arguing for your right to exclude people on a massive scale. Again, nobody is gonna fall for this.

1. Freedom of assocation is impossible to work IRL. It means I have the right not sell my home to a black, to discriminate at the community level and intuitions like universities. So just giving people freedom of association will make society racial and deny liberals integration and change the overall brand image of whites.
2. Look you cannot build a modern 1st world nation with a population of hispanics and negros. Never going to happen. So you'll be stuck baby sitting these groups till you either mix away with them or they overthrow you.
3. And all the neighborhoods they have today used to be white. How can you have a 1st word nation without even access to any of your major cities because they're infested with non whites?
4. let me ask you, since you don't want to deport them. what is your plan for America? because you're forcing diversity on us and denying us freedom of association (aka a border).
5. Europe also has the same diversity problem and they 100% must deport.

Or... stick with me here... they'll do exactly what they're already doing right now. They'll point to your other arguments and plans and they'll say, "See? People who complain about anti-whiteness and white genocide really just want to get rid of everyone who's not white. They whine about anti-whiteness but they're anti-everyone else. They whine about white genocide but they're fine with genocide against everyone else. Disingenuous hypocrites. Fuck 'em."

And since in your case that's actually true, it will work. And since that bolsters their argument that "anti-white" is just code for "get rid of all the brown people" it will give people on the left leverage to be more anti-white.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering with this. It's like talking to a severely autistic brick wall, but here we are.

This is why you're a cuck.
You live in fear of the liberals.
They say diversity good and you say begrudgingly "okay."
If liberals want immigration than conservatives want EMIGRATION.
you are the very reason society keeps tilting leftward.
End result is a low trust brazil shithole.

And guess what, liberals will pass anti white policies with us or without us.
Without us, they will use movements like BLM to frame all whites.
You're just a coward and I am tired of talking with cowards that try to rationalize their cowardice. (cuckoldry)

why do you not capitalize your sentences or use periods?
why do you put everything on a newline
like this is your
retarded op-ed column in
a newspaper?

/pol/ formatting?
I don't like wall of texts.

I'm confused. Which is it, again? Did Mossad do 9/11, or did White Nationalists do it?

Either 9/11 was a good thing because it galvanized people like Pearl Harbor or the Reichstag Fire, or it's a bad thing because DA JOOS DID IT. You guys can never make up your minds.

And, oh god, "greed and apathy", he says. Trust me. You will never break the yoke of consumerism. Every dyed-in-wool communist in this country has an iPhone and a MacBook. If you can't even get the anti-consumerists to stop consooming, what makes you think you can appeal to that tendency in conservatives?

strawman arguments. you ignored everything i said.
i won.

As someone of 160+ IQ who regularly chats with people smarter than me on KF I'd say @BoxerShorts47 is pretty fucking low IQ.

You might have an IQ if you're smart in other areas like computer science but you don't understand ethics.

 

[SIGSEGV]

i won.

The only thing you've ever "won" in your entire life is the chromosome lottery, and you hit the jackpot on that one. Since you're retarded and probably don't understand what that means, I'll tell you: it means that you are a retarded mongoloid who desperately needs to neck themselves.