2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I just realized, given the way things are going right now, chances are good Biden will pick Abrams as the VP. It's the ultimate form of pandering.
I can't wait for the negress to make a fool of herself ala Sarah Palin. And Palin at least had the saving grace of being quite decent to look at. Abrams don't even have that.
 
I don't know why people even look at polls given what happened last election
Because our society is very atomized, wants the numbers all about the numbers and jobs. If people didn't give two shits about the numbers, Nate Silver would be a neckbeard autist shitting up this website with race war statistics.

Plus I found this screenshot on one of the /pol/ threads discussing Trump's reelection chances. Trump needs the independent vote badly but Biden has been himself no favors either.

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I just realized, given the way things are going right now, chances are good Biden will pick Abrams as the VP. It's the ultimate form of pandering.
It's occurred to me recently that Biden has a zugzwang on his hands. That's a chess term which in German means 'compulsion to move.' Basically, a person would like to pass on their move if they could, but they can't. So by moving, they make their position weaker. Like at the end of a game, a player has a king that's guarding a pawn. The only choices may be to move the pawn, in which case the pawn is no longer protected. Or move the king, in which the pawn is again no longer protected. The player would pass if they could, but it's chess. You can't pass. So the player does one of those two moves and loses the pawn.

Biden is at his strongest running with just himself on the ticket. But he can't run by himself. He has to pick a running mate. And whatever running mate he picks will turn people off. Some people might vote for Biden, however they won't vote for Biden with Abrams on the ticket. And same with Kamala. But he can't pass on picking a running mate. And that's going to make his position weaker.
 
I don't know why people even look at polls given what happened last election
Because our society is very atomized, wants the numbers all about the numbers and jobs. If people didn't give two shits about the numbers, Nate Silver would be a neckbeard autist shitting up this website with race war statistics.

Plus I found this screenshot on one of the /pol/ threads discussing Trump's reelection chances. Trump needs the independent vote badly but Biden has been himself no favors either.

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The(partial) solution to the issue with various polls being inaccurate is to use an aggregate of multiple polls the way Styx does for his analysis. Oh and I agree about the importance of independents, Biden isn't doing very well with them and hasn't been for a while IIRC. That said, turnout among the base is also important, and Biden has a serious problem with enthusiasm among his base that Trump simply does not have with his own base.
 
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It's occurred to me recently that Biden has a zugzwang on his hands. That's a chess term which in German means 'compulsion to move.' Basically, a person would like to pass on their move if they could, but they can't. So by moving, they make their position weaker. Like at the end of a game, a player has a king that's guarding a pawn. The only choices may be to move the pawn, in which case the pawn is no longer protected. Or move the king, in which the pawn is again no longer protected. The player would pass if they could, but it's chess. You can't pass. So the player does one of those two moves and loses the pawn.

Biden is at his strongest running with just himself on the ticket. But he can't run by himself. He has to pick a running mate. And whatever running mate he picks will turn people off. Some people might vote for Biden, however they won't vote for Biden with Abrams on the ticket. And same with Kamala. But he can't pass on picking a running mate. And that's going to make his position weaker.

I like your position, but personally I don't think Biden hesitation to pick a VP is primary to do with making him look weaker. 100% it would, whoever the VP pick is, they'd have to be extremely subdued and hidden behind the curtains. Even the weakest of choices would make Biden look so much worse by having even a modicum of coherency.

The DNC is in a trap. They got one of their lizard people through the primary that, while bought by Communists, isn't really one. He can't make it to the ballot though. He was always mentally inept, but it seems like the campaign trail made him, or revealed him to be, much worse. Well that's fine, we'll just put put whoever we want in and he'll endorse it... except they've had the lazy entitled youth galvanized by Comrade Sanders. Bernie was definitely their worst case scenario(Buttchug had a potential to cost them gravely but not start a movement), they worked hard to keep him out. But those dumb tankies are listening to George W. and can't get fooled again. DNC stacked the deck, and it could of been a lot closer, but it still looks kind of legitimate that they weren't a large enough demographic to lock in a Bernie win. If Biden drops out now, they'll demand Bernie takes his place, and the DNC will be forced to flip them off and go full "Better dead than Red."

So Biden has to make it to the nomination. Corona made that a much more dire thing, pushing back the date as well as Biden being vulnerable. But! If they can make it to the Convention, they can have Biden pick who they want to run, go through the whole pageantry, and before the first Debate, Biden drops out due to health concerns, DNC VP Lizard man steps up having prepared for months to go as hard against Trump as possible for this moment. Then a week or two after that, Biden declares that he is unfit to run, and VP Lizard man steps up to the top of the ticket, having bolstered his reputation with a firebrand denouncing of Trump and being a complete tool for the DNC.

Except, marble brains Joe Biden pledged to pick a female or person of color Vice President. And the DNC has this other problem child, or entitled white Karens who like to inflate their Egos with being the faux saviors of the lesser, poorer races(and I'm including gays and troons as a race). They are just as rabid, much more mainstream than the Commies, and they immediately turned that or into an and. Well shit, now the DNC is run by a council of old white liches than only saw colored folk as decorations to get what they want. A colored man is at least a man, and white woman is at least white, but a colored woman? They now have to scramble to find who they can control that fits the bill and there is no obvious person to fit the bill. All the while this uppity morbidly obese baboon out of Georgia is going through this subset of the party, making a gigantic stink so that she's the only viable option(though the public humiliation they gave her seems to have successfully come with the message to settle down or you're done).

(TL;DR)And that's why I think Biden's VP pick is in such limbo. A) It's not his pick, it's the DNC's chosen presidential candidate. B) She can't be allowed to overshadow Biden before the lock is in. C) It has to come from a pool of people the DNC has likely kept below the threshold of power and control over their power that they want to chose from to give this position to.
 
I don't think Biden hesitation to pick a VP is primary to do with making him look weaker.
I don't think there's hesitation at all. Like you said, the DNC is picking his VP. But when I say weaker, I don't mean make him look weak in comparison to the running mate. I mean the strength of the ticket as a whole is weaker in its appeal to swing voters.

There are 'x' amount of people who will vote for Biden for President. But there are less than 'x' amount of people who will vote for Biden for President and Abrams for Vice President. That's the increased weakness I'm referring to. There's no solution to the math problem Biden + unknown person ≥ Biden alone, where unknown person is a black female.

Isn't Harris out of the running now? I'm sure a drug busting Prosecutor as VP would blow up in his face.
You're right. Harris is a terrible choice. The worse choice there is, except for all the rest.
 
I just realized, given the way things are going right now, chances are good Biden will pick Abrams as the VP. It's the ultimate form of pandering.
50-50 Harris or Abrams. Harris has recently been to a speech coach, some have noted.

I honestly wonder how they’d rehabilitate Harris’s record? Maybe say that her DA experience gives her knowledge of how to reform it? I also personally don’t think her ancestry would hold her back since people won’t both researching.

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Trump just lost the election.

The weird thing- I think with all the lunacy going on and the Democrats going off the panderfest deepend, this has sort of receded into the background and even has been validated to an extent. Does anyone even remember the details of last week?
 
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I still can see room for Val Demmings or some similar Literally Who that checks the boxes but is obscure enough to have no specific baggage at the national level.
 
IS Rasmussen a reliable poll or they managed to find the kind of blacks who watch Conservative Twins, Amazing Lucas, Anthony Brian Logan, SomeBlackGuy, etc....

Since its not at 100%, I guess they couldn't find Jesse Lee Peterson.
 
Yeah im gonna have to rate that hella :optimistic:

Not because I think its impossible, not because I think flumpf definitely will/wont lose anyway, not even because of the raw tonnage of hilarity such an approval shift will result in if borne out in votes...but because if Plod Turd Man has actually started to reverse the LBJ shuffle then hooooooleeeeeeeeeeee shit are we gonna see some interesting times ahead.

Like if we get a hypothetical 2nd trump term and it turns out up to half the blacks in america voted for him, especially if its a super close race and their votes literally were the only thing that allowed him to win, then I genuinely cant even predict how the sprawling sodom of woke grifting politics/activism/media/social media will ignite.

I mean its tempting....its real tempting to think this because of how much fleeting fun we will have, but we must member that nothing is certain until the vote die has been cast, and the polls have betrayed smarter men than us before
 
Like if we get a hypothetical 2nd trump term and it turns out up to half the blacks in america voted for him, especially if its a super close race and their votes literally were the only thing that allowed him to win, then I genuinely cant even predict how the sprawling sodom of woke grifting politics/activism/media/social media will ignite.

As it is, we already we have over a quarter of blacks who agree with Sleepy Joe that black Trump voters are "not really black" - this also according to Rasmussen.

 
Unless the God Emperor has been cloning Kayne West Space Marines in his genetics labs on Luna, I'm going to have to press X. To believe this I'd want to see a stronger effect at the local/state level -- blue mayors let their neighborhoods burn, and they could put more pressure on there.
 
I'd like to point out that this isn't the first poll showing high black support for Trump. source https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...r-trump-at-highest-levels-could-seal-2020-win

Now granted, this article is less optimistic then 40% support, but still, if Trump gets half that percentage or even a bit less(Say, 10 or 15 percent), that's yet another check in the "Trump is probably going to win re-election" column for me.
 
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That would go down like a cold cup of sick. If half of the country is up and running they won't be able to keep the other half down. State Democrats are much smarter than national Democrats. They know they don't have the political capital to do it and if they try it won't be the GOP that gets punished. I can't see the Dem governors of Michigan and Pennsylvania keeping their states shut down while their constituents are looking at Republican Ohio open for business.
Let it never be said that I cannot admit when I am wrong. They really will commit seppuku on behalf of the DNC just to get Trump.
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