I don't know what to say 06/04/20 - "not at the beginning stage"

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How do you treat a 500 lb toddler who has cancer? Genuine question.

Maybe I give her too many credit but she will be someday in a stage where she won't be able to throw a tantrum or can get out her smug excuses.
When she's hospitalized she won't be able to stuff food in her face.
I doubt that she even will still have the appetite when she had surgery.

She will suffer. Suffer hard.

But take my words with a grain of salt. It's still Amber whom I'm talking about and her self-destructive will is strong.
 
christ. rate me autistic but i almost feel bad. i thought her wake up call would be miley cyrus calling her a fat whale, not fuckin cancer.

becky probably needs to be put under psych hold too at this point
She had many, many occasions to wake up, and she wasted all of them. Destiny cheating and breaking up with her, having to find another caretaker, falling in the shower, not fitting in the shower, falling while walking to the bathroom and being unable to stand up on her own, having to move her shopping from the mall to entirely online because Torrid didn't carry her size in stores, the "bipolar" diagnosis, Obese to Beast giving up on her, Charlie Gold appearing and being praised by everybody because she seemed to be legit.

She had many wake up call, but she never did anything with them. She never understood how serious and dangerous her situation was.

If she was to heal from this, she would immediately get Becky to drive her to Cheesecake Factory so that she can eat her orange chicken. Hell, I'd not be surprised if she ended up doing chemo, did her treatment, got Becky to bring her to her orange chicken, ate her double portion, threw up everywhere, and then made a video about how now she has bulimia.

I genuinely don't know what to say about this.
Yes, Amber is not a nice person, she disregarded her health and been smug about her body for so long... But this still must be quite a shock to her.
No one deserves something like this, but the way she was behaving, it was inevitable SOMETHING had to give health wise.

It kind of puts everything into a different perspective now, her recurrent UTIs and infections, the fact she lost weight without doing anything... It all could be down to the fact cancer was growing inside her. At this point we don't know how long she's had it or how advanced it is, but, so many things aren't on her side. She's 500lbs, she has no health insurance, a D&C was a huge risk for her. Surgery and treatment may just kill her.
I want to sound hopeful as no one deserves to die, but I don't see her coming out of this.
I think it's just something incredibly human, feeling bad for her. We realize that she's a bad person, but not a monster. If a child rapist was to say that they have cancer, we would probably cheer and hope there's no way to save them, but Amber? She's a mean girl with a nasty attitude and a brain as big as a pea, but that's about it.
 
I do question whether there’s any verification on bank account/reloadable debit cards balances - without that, they’ve no idea that she has (allegedly) banked thousands for her WLS “journey”.

If the DHS (or whatever state agency manages it in KY) lack any manner of checking what she’s got on her debit card, she looks like the prime candidate for the emergency Medicaid apps they rush through.
It’s the IRS, not checking bank accounts. Amber makes enough via YT it’s reported directly to the IRS by YouTube, I think it just needs to be over $10k per year for direct reporting. PayPal does the same thing. If you get more than 10k paid per year via PayPal that info is submitted directly to the IRS.

Banks are even required to give notice of all deposits over $10k to the IRS.

The DHHR will run her social and IRS records - she won’t qualify for Medicaid until she makes some significant changes and that will take time. It’s a really crap situation. You’d shit a brick if you’d see what hospitals financial services ask for to “help you” pay for treatment - they just want help milking you totally dry until the govt will step in because you are inches from being a hobo
 
She might fit into a PET machine but she's on the upper end of the weight limit. There is a possibility that Amber is over reacting honestly... they don't diagnose cancer over the phone, they tell you they've found some abnormal findings and start booking appointments.


I am bothered by the way she found out. Did she say she got a call? I believe her reaction is 100% real, and she is in a panic, but in my experience, they don't call you and tell you that you have cancer. It is really nerve wracking, but usually you have to wait for an in-person visit with the surgeon for results, even if it is benign. If anyone else has any insight to this, please enlighten me.

Patients are often called with results of biopsies, whatever those biopsies show. It isn't uncommon (at least in the US).


I think you are confusing cervical with ovarian. Cervical has an 81% 5 year survival rate and is typically found on a gym visit. It’s ovarian thats hard to find, plus it has amorphous symptoms like bloating. Who the hell doesn’t have bloating.
I know many, many people with female cancers and so far, nobody has died of cervical. Lots of ovarian. That said, none were 500 lbs...

Perhaps. But early detection is key, regardless. I have some serious questions about her diagnosis, though, given what we know about the information she hears and interpets.

Another thought came to mind while listening/reading all this, which is the same thought I have every time I hear her cray and moan about her mother: if she wants her mother so badly, why not just pick up the fucking phone? I mean sure, mom might say tough shit, where were you when I was going through my cancer, but she probably wouldn't.
 
Ok so maybe it's the scientist in me, but I'm going to reserve judgment until more information comes to light because at the moment the only 'fact' we have is a wailing hyperventilating blobby.

Given the timeline of only a couple of days between surgery and "muh woomb cancer" I am inclined to think she is basing this off a very small snippet of information. My guess is that the preliminary biopsy results of indicated the presence of cancerous cells in her uterus / cervix. It's WAY to early to determine advanced the cancer is or at what stage. I'm not a medico, but my understanding is further testing is needed. I am thinking Amberlynn heard the words "cancerous cells" either on the phone or read them in an email and has wigged the fuck out. That, plus she has been consulting her Google medical degree and determined she is indeed a piece of rotten fruit inside.

I think it's important to keep in mind that Amberlynn is not a smart woman and is surrounded by a partner and friends with a collective IQ level about the same as a grapefruit, so she's not going to get any objective input from them.

Do I think she 'deserves' to get cancer? I don't really think anyone does. Most of us reading here have lost family and friends - and they didn't deserve it either. It is what it is.

On the bright side, at least she has actually has something tangible to have anxietee and duhpression over now. Silver linings and all that. Maybe we can do a GoFundMe to buy her a poop-bun wig if she loses her hair because we are nice people.
 
I remember a video from awhile back when she was spending crazy money on Torrid hauls and the criticism in the comments was that she should be spending some of that money on health insurance. Her response was "Can't I have bolth"? Well, she didn't have bolth. She kept spending money on frivolous things but never did get that health insurance. Even if the cancer is treatable, she's going to have to spend (or owe) a shit-ton of money on treatment. Now what?

ETA: At least she is admitting it's her fault instead of using the default fatty excuse of "Even thin people get [insert ailment here]."
 
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damn, and all of those times she was snarky about being able to afford health insurance and torrid hauls. her singing doctor told her to get health insurance and tests done. she should be feeling something. maybe make a video saying sorry for being a bitch to the people that told her to get health insurance but since it's AL probably not. Not being mean here but you know it's not just being financially ruined but her ego is ruined as well.
I doubt with her weight she would have been able to afford insurance, when I looked for insurance I was being flat out refused by companies because I had an easily treatable form of cancer in the past.
 
There is a possibility that Amber is over reacting honestly... they don't diagnose cancer over the phone, they tell you they've found some abnormal findings and start booking appointments.

In my mom's case they didn't even let her leave the hospital after she had a mri/catscan/whatever. They saw a mass and immediately suspected cancer and didn't let her leave.

I’m not saying she doesn’t actually have cancer, however are we sure it’s not just ‘cancerous cells’ that were found?

I'm curious to know also if it's cancerous cells or like stages of cancer.

A coworker of mine went in for gall bladder removal and it turns out there was cancer in their gall bladder; but they didn't have to get chemo at all.

I'm just shocked AL is young, I never would've thought she'd get cancer first. I legitimately was expecting her to say Norma had passed; but then why would she be so hysterical if it was that? I just can't believe it. What will happen to Becky? Would they just remove AL's uterus, would she have to do chemo? There are so many questions and would a 500 lb person survive a hysterectomy? I can't see her going out this way. I thought she'd be one of those people that abuses their body but lives forever. Like people who've been drinking and smoking since they were 10, but make it to 90.
 
Wow, shit. Come back from a bike ride, and get smacked in the fucking face with this announcement.

I feel for Becky. First her Mom, now her Toddler.

While I wouldn't wish cancer on AL, I don't really feel terrible for her. Her whining about wanting her mother and father got me rolling my eyes, because if she hadn't been such a wretched cuntcicle she might have them in her life still.

However, as much as I'd like to throw some glitter text
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at her, it just doesn't feel very right with how much she seems to actually be panicking and crying. I'm actually rather inclined to believe her this time.

Even though she's a noted liar, her acting has never been this on point.

Fucking hell, AL! I had you going at the end of February/beginning of March 2022! How could you put me so far off in the fatty dead pool?! (oh yeah. Because fat. That's how.)
 
Have you seen a fast food employee lately? Lots of them are Becky-levels of fatass.

They haven’t been sitting on their asses for years, though. She’s not just fat, she’s also extremely out of shape. There are people her size who run 5K’s, 10K’s, or even marathons. I can’t picture Becky walking a mile. And let’s be honest, she’s also too exceptional to work an adult job with responsibilities, a strict work schedule, and no running off to her coloring books when things get tough.

Becky’s seriously fucked if St. Peter fires off the harpoon.
 
I remember a video from awhile back when she was spending crazy money on Torrid hauls and the criticism in the comments was that she should be spending some of that money on health insurance. Her response was "Can't I have bolth"? Well, she didn't have bolth. She kept spending money on frivolous things but never did get that health insurance. Even if the cancer is treatable, she's going to have to spend (or owe) a shit-ton of money on treatment. Now what?

ETA: At least she is admitting it's her fault instead of using the default fatty excuse of "Even thin people get [insert ailment here]."
Torrid sale on the lawn? (Its a big lawn.)
 
Let's wait a minute -

she "says" she has cancer doesn't mean she "has" cancer. Who knows what she actually has and understood as "cancer". Let's see what the doctor really told her. Because she doesn't really elaborate much. If she actually has a carcinoma (and not "atypical cells that could be cancer" and she only heard "cancer") it must be staged etc. Maybe she had just atypical cells and she's panicking. Who knows at this point.

Not to be cold and heartless but there is such thing as people using their sick role for their benefit and it will even likely work, because people hear "cancer" and think it's invasive, aggressive and it already spread everywhere and so many people are sorry already.

Additionally there is such a thing as low-risk endometrial carcinoma.

OK so she says she has cancer, the normal question would be what do you mean exactly by cancer?
 
Ok I'm a dick but I don't believe her and/or I don't feel any sympathy. I'm not saying I feel happy about it but I'm not now going to switch over to being there for our gorl. We've all been anticipating some medical scare or event and it's just hard for me to feel bad when I am of the opinion that nothing of value is being lost.. sorry I feel this way and that is my non apology
 
Amber if you don't make it
put your body to good use: donate your organs or your whole body as a cadaver for research. Would be interesting to see how a brain addicted to orange chicken looks like
as harsh as that sounds I'm being dead serious do something to at least battle against not only cancer but Eating disorders or mental health.

Then we'd finally see laygs
 
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