Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

107 pages and Boxer Shorts is still 56% mad.

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No it's not
citizenship is a social construct
non of those non whites identify as white
>asian-american
>hispanic-American
>black-british
they don't and will NEVER feel at home in a foreign nation that wasn't built by their ancestors and doesn't reflect their culture
Why is it that only white can be taught to worship the us founding fathers and muh constitution?
Because white people can look at these founding fathers and squint and say "muh ancestors?"
At best non whites assimilate to degenerate globohomo.
If you ask them "do you feel white?"
they will laugh at you.
"I've never even thought that."
and to some degree this is true even with whites, Italy or Greece have a different culture than Germany or Sweden.
But that difference is amplified when you cross racial lines, to the point of being unbearable in the long-run.
There is no place like home.

Let's go over the facts for a minute.

Back 70 years ago, African-Americans, as a group, were obtaining more wealth and more political power. Nixon began the War on Drugs specifically to target them for incarceration.



This was, mind you, after the CIA had just spent a whole decade dosing unwitting people with LSD just to see what it would do. This is where you get the hippies from.



The expansion of the welfare state and the foster care systems since the 80s has been aimed at targeting black families and breaking them up, with the overall goal of reducing their wealth and power and promoting single motherhood.



Civil asset forfeiture and the private prison system allow the government to confiscate people's property if they're suspected in a crime, without even being charged with anything, and to incarcerate them in for-profit prisons if they cannot pay up all sorts of meaningless fines.



The economy is spinning into a global depression, with tens of trillions shaved off the world GDP over the next few years:


42.6 million people in the US have filed jobless claims since March. People are only just beginning to get back to work:



Do you even realize that billionaires profited to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars from this crisis?



Can you explain why we were all social distancing a couple weeks ago, and now, there are thousands of protesters on the streets?


Can you explain why the guy who performed George Floyd's "independent autopsy" was the same guy who performed Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy?


Can you explain why George Floyd and Derek Chauvin worked at the same Latin nightclub, probably with cartel connections?


Can you explain why 2000 pounds of cocaine with Sinaloa markings was found in a CIA-owned van in El Paso, Texas, last year?


Who is responsible for orchestrating this chaos, and for what purpose? Do you even know?

Blacks in America, as a group, are some of the most heavily sabotaged people on this entire planet, with every apparatus of the state focused on driving them into poverty, drug abuse, and criminality.

And all the while, a shadowy elite profits from driving wedges between the races, stoking the fires of hatred between working-class people who should, by all rights, be allied against the rich parasites who preside over all this chaos.

The rabbit hole runs far deeper than you think.

Bad faith arguments, appeal to consequence fallacy. Before we even have this conversation, do you agree that this diversity project is a failure? That it will lead to 3rd world nation that collapses when it loses super power status and no one wants to risk their lives defending foreigners, homosexuals and trannies? Because once you decide that this must be done, deportation is for the common good, then it's clear we will pay any price. 60 years ago, communism was the greatest threat to the world. Today it's diversity. Any nation that doesn't protect it's borders will see it's people erased into a brown blob.

Your entire argument, if you can even call it that, is an appeal to consequences. As best as I can tell, the thrust of what you're trying to say, in your bleating posts with their indecipherable grammar, is that if we don't keep out swarthy undesirables and make the US into a white ethnostate, we will become race-mixed.

This is such a surface /pol/ talking point, it's ridiculous that you think this is some kind of special insight possessed by you and you alone. At any given time on /pol/, I can find a dozen active threads with Europeans and Slavs pointing and laughing and calling Americans "Amerimutts" and "BBC lovers". Glowies trying to demoralize people, most likely.

Don't you see what's happening? Antifa, BLM, mouthy wannabe white nationalists like you - all useful idiots for the power elite. All controlled opposition.

The goal is total control; the elimination of the middle class and its replacement with a class of serfs.

Race is a red herring.
 
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Let's go over the facts for a minute.

Back 70 years ago, African-Americans, as a group, were obtaining more wealth and more political power. Nixon began the War on Drugs specifically to target them for incarceration.



This was, mind you, after the CIA had just spent a whole decade dosing unwitting people with LSD just to see what it would do. This is where you get the hippies from.



The expansion of the welfare state and the foster care systems since the 80s has been aimed at targeting black families and breaking them up, with the overall goal of reducing their wealth and power and promoting single motherhood.



Civil asset forfeiture and the private prison system allow the government to confiscate people's property if they're suspected in a crime, without even being charged with anything, and to incarcerate them in for-profit prisons if they cannot pay up all sorts of meaningless fines.



The economy is spinning into a global depression, with tens of trillions shaved off the world GDP over the next few years:


42.6 million people in the US have filed jobless claims since March. People are only just beginning to get back to work:



Do you even realize that billionaires profited to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars from this crisis?



Can you explain why we were all social distancing a couple weeks ago, and now, there are thousands of protesters on the streets?


Can you explain why the guy who performed George Floyd's "independent autopsy" was the same guy who performed Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy?


Can you explain why George Floyd and Derek Chauvin worked at the same Latin nightclub, probably with cartel connections?


Can you explain why 2000 pounds of cocaine with Sinaloa markings was found in a CIA-owned van in El Paso, Texas, last year?


Who is responsible for orchestrating this chaos, and for what purpose? Do you even know?

Blacks in America, as a group, are some of the most heavily sabotaged people on this entire planet, with every apparatus of the state focused on driving them into poverty, drug abuse, and criminality.

And all the while, a shadowy elite profits from driving wedges between the races, stoking the fires of hatred between working-class people who should, by all rights, be allied against the rich parasites who preside over all this chaos.

The rabbit hole runs far deeper than you think.



Your entire argument, if you can even call it that, is an appeal to consequences. As best as I can tell, the thrust of what you're trying to say, in your bleating posts with their indecipherable grammar, is that if we don't keep out swarthy undesirables and make the US into a white ethnostate, we will become race-mixed.

This is such a surface /pol/ talking point, it's ridiculous that you think this is some kind of special insight possessed by you and you alone. At any given time on /pol/, I can find a dozen active threads with Europeans and Slavs pointing and laughing and calling Americans "Amerimutts" and "nigger lovers". Glowies trying to demoralize people, most likely.

Don't you see what's happening? Antifa, BLM, mouthy wannabe white nationalists like you - all useful idiots for the power elite. All controlled opposition.

The goal is total control; the elimination of the middle class and its replacement with a class of serfs.

Race is a red herring.
That's a genuinely fascinating post and an excellent starting point for anyone wondering what the fuck's going on.
 
Let's go over the facts for a minute.

Back 70 years ago, African-Americans, as a group, were obtaining more wealth and more political power. Nixon began the War on Drugs specifically to target them for incarceration.



This was, mind you, after the CIA had just spent a whole decade dosing unwitting people with LSD just to see what it would do. This is where you get the hippies from.



The expansion of the welfare state and the foster care systems since the 80s has been aimed at targeting black families and breaking them up, with the overall goal of reducing their wealth and power and promoting single motherhood.



Civil asset forfeiture and the private prison system allow the government to confiscate people's property if they're suspected in a crime, without even being charged with anything, and to incarcerate them in for-profit prisons if they cannot pay up all sorts of meaningless fines.



The economy is spinning into a global depression, with tens of trillions shaved off the world GDP over the next few years:


42.6 million people in the US have filed jobless claims since March. People are only just beginning to get back to work:



Do you even realize that billionaires profited to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars from this crisis?



Can you explain why we were all social distancing a couple weeks ago, and now, there are thousands of protesters on the streets?


Can you explain why the guy who performed George Floyd's "independent autopsy" was the same guy who performed Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy?


Can you explain why George Floyd and Derek Chauvin worked at the same Latin nightclub, probably with cartel connections?


Can you explain why 2000 pounds of cocaine with Sinaloa markings was found in a CIA-owned van in El Paso, Texas, last year?


Who is responsible for orchestrating this chaos, and for what purpose? Do you even know?

Blacks in America, as a group, are some of the most heavily sabotaged people on this entire planet, with every apparatus of the state focused on driving them into poverty, drug abuse, and criminality.

And all the while, a shadowy elite profits from driving wedges between the races, stoking the fires of hatred between working-class people who should, by all rights, be allied against the rich parasites who preside over all this chaos.

The rabbit hole runs far deeper than you think.



Your entire argument, if you can even call it that, is an appeal to consequences. As best as I can tell, the thrust of what you're trying to say, in your bleating posts with their indecipherable grammar, is that if we don't keep out swarthy undesirables and make the US into a white ethnostate, we will become race-mixed.

This is such a surface /pol/ talking point, it's ridiculous that you think this is some kind of special insight possessed by you and you alone. At any given time on /pol/, I can find a dozen active threads with Europeans and Slavs pointing and laughing and calling Americans "Amerimutts" and "nigger lovers". Glowies trying to demoralize people, most likely.

Don't you see what's happening? Antifa, BLM, mouthy wannabe white nationalists like you - all useful idiots for the power elite. All controlled opposition.

The goal is total control; the elimination of the middle class and its replacement with a class of serfs.

Race is a red herring.
Anything about the FBI's plot to "encourage" several Civil Rights activists to disappear ?
 
Anything about the FBI's plot to "encourage" several Civil Rights activists to disappear ?

Indeed. J. Edgar Hoover, the legendary fag-hunter:


... who was, himself, a closeted, self-loathing fag:


... completely and utterly despised MLK and wished harm towards him:


https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/16/...mlk-reveals.html?referringSource=articleShare

I could go on a whole lot longer, about things like the Phoenix Program, or the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, or how Ted Kaczynski was subjected to psychological experimentation that turned him from a brilliant mathematician into a paranoid basket case living in a cabin and mailing bombs to people, and I would barely scratch the surface.

Suffice it to say, America has a long and sordid history of abusing and controlling people. A lot of the rights and freedoms we take for granted, well, the Elites don’t think we should have them.

This goes beyond race. Can’t you feel it? How controlled the internet and online discourse have become? Our last taste of true freedom was perhaps over a decade ago, before the rise of social media, and “likes”, and all this gamification of the internet. They turned it into a Skinner box. Operant conditioning. They don’t need to hire thought police. People do it to each other, automatically.

The internet, once a bastion of free and open discourse, has become polarized and confused. Everyone has retreated into echo chambers that represent their increasingly extreme positions. Anyone who suggests there has been a breakdown in communication between races, classes, and political affiliations is shunned and ostracized, or accused of being an enabler of extremism.

Meanwhile, domain name registrars and payment processors are being allowed to police the web by refusing service to those who prize freedom of speech.

The grip of the authoritarians is tightening. Wikileaks and Snowden had them scared. They didn’t like their dirty laundry being aired out. Everything we’ve seen in the past decade is the glowie response to that.

Do you know why they’re going after Brewster Kahle and Internet Archive? It’s because he promotes stuff like IPFS, the Interplanetary File System. If IPFS was complete and allowed for asynchronous forum hosting without centralized databases, any website could become permanent, with a revision history to match. DMCA takedowns would be impossible. There would be no central domain registrars and people would pay each other through cryptocurrencies. The power would be back in the hands of the people, where it rightly belongs.

The glowies are trying to ruin everything.
 
Indeed. J. Edgar Hoover, the legendary fag-hunter:


... who was, himself, a closeted, self-loathing fag:


... completely and utterly despised MLK and wished harm towards him:


https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/16/...mlk-reveals.html?referringSource=articleShare

I could go on a whole lot longer, about things like the Phoenix Program, or the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, or how Ted Kaczynski was subjected to psychological experimentation that turned him from a brilliant mathematician into a paranoid basket case living in a cabin and mailing bombs to people, and I would barely scratch the surface.

Suffice it to say, America has a long and sordid history of abusing and controlling people. A lot of the rights and freedoms we take for granted, well, the Elites don’t think we should have them.

This goes beyond race. Can’t you feel it? How controlled the internet and online discourse have become? Our last taste of true freedom was perhaps over a decade ago, before the rise of social media, and “likes”, and all this gamification of the internet. They turned it into a Skinner box. Operant conditioning. They don’t need to hire thought police. People do it to each other, automatically.

The internet, once a bastion of free and open discourse, has become polarized and confused. Everyone has retreated into echo chambers that represent their increasingly extreme positions. Anyone who suggests there has been a breakdown in communication between races, classes, and political affiliations is shunned and ostracized, or accused of being an enabler of extremism.

Meanwhile, domain name registrars and payment processors are being allowed to police the web by refusing service to those who prize freedom of speech.

The grip of the authoritarians is tightening. Wikileaks and Snowden had them scared. They didn’t like their dirty laundry being aired out. Everything we’ve seen in the past decade is the glowie response to that.

Do you know why they’re going after Brewster Kahle and Internet Archive? It’s because he promotes stuff like IPFS, the Interplanetary File System. If IPFS was complete and allowed for asynchronous forum hosting without centralized databases, any website could become permanent, with a revision history to match. DMCA takedowns would be impossible. There would be no central domain registrars and people would pay each other through cryptocurrencies. The power would be back in the hands of the people, where it rightly belongs.

The glowies are trying to ruin everything.
You can be a mad bastard some (all?) of the time, but you can sure knock out a beautifully written post. @BoxerShorts47, on the other hand, is a lazy, illiterate, cock sucking incel slob.
 
This is from way back since this thread moves a mile a minute with your meth posting, but I have to respond to your shitty history.
With regards to genocide.
Most genocides have only occurred post ~1900
Genocide wasn't a big issue in the past when population size was low because warring tribes could move to different locations
No, most genocides that were properly recorded only occurred post 1900. Maybe the fact that "genocide" is a word that was only invented in the 20th century has something to do with that. Maybe the lack of written records among early peoples is another reason. Most paleontologists will tell you that early tribes were wiping each other out all the time in the stone and bronze ages. And of course there's also the prominent theory that Homo Sapiens got rid of Homo Neanderthalensis by a combination of genocide and breeding out.

Sorry but Social Darwinism, Race Realism, Eugenics, are the foundations of a modern 21st century society.
You cannot ignore these ideas any longer, marginalize them by associating them with the Nazis.
Either you accept these ideas and use them to build a 1st world nation
or your nation collapses into a 3rd world shithole and other nations (China?) surpass you.
In what way is the big loser of the ideological struggle of the first half of the 20th century the "foundations" of a modern 21st century society? It's clearly not the foundations of any country that currently exists.

As much as you view yourself as the antithesis of SJW's, you latch onto some of their most retarded ideas, like "being on the right side of history." Guess what? There is no "right side of history." History doesn't give a fuck about your feelings.

And as much as you gush about how China is a new rising superpower, China doesn't follow your model of how you think a state should be set up. Literally no country does. The one that came closest was Nazi Germany, which lasted only twelve years before getting its absolute shit kicked. If you're going to use the "laboratory of history" argument, your ideas have already been tried and failed. A more pluralist type of fascism under Franco in Spain and communism were both vastly more successful, and western republic governments outlived both of them.

FYI, America was NOT a global super power in 1917.
America was the regional power in New World.
America entered WW1 against the wishes of most citizens and was the reason Germany lost.
At that time period, British Empire was the greatest empire.
Inability of the British to defeat the Jerrys without America's help, sealed their fate.
America absolutely fucking was a global super power before 1917, you mongoloid (and I say that in more than one sense). The Spanish-American War, the Filipino-American War, the Eight-Nation Alliance in China, Japan courting America to train its newly modernizing army. You are categorically wrong. By WW1 America had absolutely established itself as one of the great powers of the world, and every other power that mattered knew it.

You've clearly learn some history, then proceeded to fill the very large gaps in your knowledge with made up bullshit that you thought sounded right and smart but is completely wrong.

Also, what does any of this autistic rambling have to do with white nationalism? You're proving your ignorance and you don't even need to.

once USA collapses from diversity, global hegemony (Pax Americana) will collapse and all these nations that desperately want to attack each other, will attack each other (India-Pakistan? or China-Taiwan, or Isreal-Palestine,? Saudi Arabia-Yemen?, Russian-Ukraine? or many Latin Americans or African nations)
The entire word is failed liberal democracies, unstable nations. that can only exist because the west prevents large scale war through the UN or NATO.
The entire world? What happened to your beloved China? That's a failed liberal democracy too? :lit:

Several of these conflicts are completely unequal. The Ukraine doesn't stand a chance against Russia in a full blown war. Ditto Taiwan against China or Palestine against Israel. Those will be very short conflicts. More likely with Ukraine and Taiwan, they'll work out some kind of unequal truce. Taiwan especially has things China is going to be sorely wanting in the event of an American collapse.

BTW, America also looks a lot like the Roman Republic did during the years leading up to it becoming the Roman Empire. It went on to become far more influential than it had in the Republic days and lasted for far longer. And it wasn't an ethnostate.

Without this global hegemony, the world will enter a warring nations period.
Either you deport the non whites and give up all moral claim to "peace in the middle east." and just admit nations operate in their rational best interest according to game theory
Nobody is ever giving up on the "moral" claim to "peace in the middle east." Do you know why? Because it's a moral claim being used to cover for something much more practical: oil. The oil has to keep flowing to fuel modernity. And if the USA collapses tomorrow, do you know who's going to ensure it keeps flowing? Russia. Russia is already shoring up its interests in the area through support of Syria and Iran the same way America has done with Israel and Saudi Arabia.

There's also a very high chance China will step in on behalf of other nations in the area to shore up its own interests and ensure Russia doesn't get a monopoly. Who knows, with America out of the picture, China may be eager to fill the void and make Israel their greatest ally. Heaven knows they'll be looking for markets to sell their cheap shit to without America in the picture.

Hell, Japan may get some of its old adventurous spirit back too. It certainly has the means.🎌

Only difference is will you exist or will your people exist?
We're not playing games or joking around.
You need to decide if you want to exist or die.
Your nihilism and cowardice is more than just character faults, serious liability to the stability of your nation and the existence of your people.
"Your" people. Nice Freudian slip, Garcia. :lit:
 
Imagine thinking you're a super-fucking-genius


And then coming to the internet equivalent of Statler and Waldorf and expecting them to be your nigger-killing Nazi personal army

"Hey Statler, what did the concentration camp victim say to the paraplegic Nazi?"

"I dunno, what?"

"Good luck in the Master Race!"

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