U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Sammich]

Don't be eager for more action here. The mask is off, let people stare at the beast underneath.

Kiwis ITT have been going off about incrementalism on the left, their slowly taking over institutions and shifting the Overton window, etc. This could be incrementalism in the other direction, as the normal people realize that social justice means a boot on their own neck. You don't need a harsh counter-reaction to drive the point home.

Spoiler: threading the needle with cheeto orange yarn

Take a lesson from Trump, who I frequently disagree with, but who played this masterfully so far. He could have played the traditional Republican law & order stern father role, ordered soldiers into the streets, and stomped people who were protesting a legitimate grievance (bad policing) in a destructive way (riots and looting). If he did, he wouldn't be playing to his base--he would have lost the conservatives who are big on Posse Comitatus protections. There were laws he could activate about insurrections, but that would be a morally and legally gray area.

Instead, he talked tough, laid the blame on the mayors/governors, told the army to prepare just in case... but stopped short of action. Then he made a show of strength that was clearly under his legal purview: having the NG clear the street down to St John's church, where he promised more of the same and waved a Bible around (ugh... not a great photo op, but he got the point across). Then he beefed up security only in DC, after multiple beloved monuments were defaced.

Now no one can say he overstepped his boundaries, and no one can say he ignored the issue. The worst they can say is he gassed some protesters nobody cared about because they lit the church on fire the previous night. And if you've been watching the live feeds since the start, you'll notice that the day Trump walked to St John's was the same day the riots turned into mostly orderly protests.

I don't know how this will ultimately play into the election, there's 5 months of spin and narrative to go. But no one can call Trump a fascist who deployed troops to US soil (outside of DC, where he's allowed to). It wouldn't be worth breaking that Constitutional barrier just to save a couple of Democratic strongholds, even if you think they richly deserve it.

As a bonus, Trump seems to have broken the grip Antifa had on the left with a mere 2 tweets. The FBI didn't even get involved yet, but they're being hunted by Mexican gangs and angry black protesters. They aren't gone, but it's a step in the right direction.

Completely agree. I might have been a bit too hyperbolic in callign for more.

 

[Evilronald]

If there were seriously no police these "protesters" would be fucked way harder than anyone else. Outside of some of the blacks the majority of the liberals "demonstrating" are among the least physically imposing people in our country, and most don't even believe in guns. I guess the "defund the police" thing is supposed to mean stopping short of completely removing the police, but it still implies the police would have to drop their presence/response time. Its odd how that started getting pushed everywhere all at once, thats not a talking point I have ever heard before the last 2 weeks (maybe its been out there but I have never heard that one).
Its really wild to see how many people on twitter react with horror whenever they see cops deploy the billy clubs. They are such pussies they can't understand that its not dangerous to hit someone in the legs with a stick a few times, they just imagine it would hurt and get all emotional. But these same people react the same way whenever they see the mace, or the CS, or the beanbags, and just imagine the fucking reaction if they actually broke out the hoses (HEY I WAS TOLD IN SECOND GRADE THAT A BLACK PERSON WAS SHOT WITH A HOSE IN 1960, THATS FUCKING RACIST). These people think that fucking twisting someones arm back in an uncomfortable position is a form of brutality, literally any form of pain compliance is unacceptable to them simply because it looks like it would hurt. They seriously act like you have to just let someone go if they resist, what do they even expect the cops to do when someone resists?

There’s tons of LGBT people in leadership at BLM too. I think most of their initial leadership is alphabet people. I never understood why black gay people are always militant black activists when they are HATED by the black community for being gay. It’s like they think if they do nice things for black people their community might finally accept them. It’s really pathetic.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

That's unusually sedate.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I think something's up

Could be a fake out, could be some organizers in the group got a call to start slowly withdrawing their forces, or maybe they really are just burning themselves out?

Hopefully, I'm wrong and it's just the protesters fizzling out on their own.

Democrats pulled the plug

They lost political steam.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

I still don't get the fucking point here; what exactly is going to be accomplished by defunding the police? It's like they saw one fucker saying it and now everyone is repeating it like a short-sighted, shitty Yak Bak.

The extreme ones are deluded to the point that they think the police are inherently evil and no reform will stop them from being anti-jogger einsatzgruppen so it's better to just tear them down as an institution or failing that, make them as toothless as possible and the rest are just blindly parroting it with no thought to the consequences.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

I'd consider the shitstorm over slavery (that was abolished in the US over 150 years ago) pertinent were it not for the fact slavery is ongoing as I write in North Africa, in Libya. The very country our first black President and his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton set out to destroy and enabled Arab Salafis to bring back slavery. That's right, a black man and a woman caused slavery to return to Africa where sub-Saharan men, women and children are sold into slavery and shipped to Europe.

BLACK SLAVES ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD EVERY DAY RIGHT NOW IN AFRICA AND SENT TO EUROPE IN BONDAGE.

Nobody gives a shit, BLM doesn't give a shit and Antifa could care less. Spare me the moralfagging.

BLM sees ultimate power in the United States above all other nations. And they want it for themselves without doing any hard work.

 

[Kornheiser]

Will the protestors be happy if they replace the police with mercs? They don’t play by any rules and would shoot you and send the bill to your family for bothering them.

 

[Super Guido]

The extreme ones are deluded to the point that they think the police are inherently evil and no reform will stop them from being anti-jogger einsatzgruppen so it's better to just tear them down as an institution or failing that, make them as toothless as possible and the rest are just blindly parroting it with no thought to the consequences.

Is it really "no thought to the consequences" if they shoot you down for explaining why it's a bad idea? It seems more like deliberate ignorance.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

It's attractive to local government because a) more money to waste on other shit and b) police can hassle whoever they want and it's somebody else's fault.

Obviously there will still be police, the state government isn't going to allow major metro areas to be completely lawless, so now there will be state police filling that role and before you know it we will have de facto gendarmeries everywhere, like in Europe. Local police will become a quaint notion that only exists in flyover states. And if you think ACAB now, imagine what it will be like when they are all outsiders temporarily stationed in your community.

I'm glad its going to be only happening in deep blue cities, so that when blows up in their stupid fucking faces they'll be scratching their heads wondering what went wrong.

 

[Standardized Profile]

I'm coming out blunt here, but if you believe the South ceded from the Union for any other major reason than slavery, you're a fucking retard. It is literally enshrined in their sham of a constitution.

And most, if not all, of their proclamations of secession, as well as the propaganda they produced before they attempted to secede (e.g. Cotton Is King). Their main complaint was that the North wasn't doing enough to protect the peculiar institution, that the Northern states were routinely disregarding the Fugitive Slave Act. In this, they were anti-states' rights, and they drafted their constitution accordingly. There were economic factors, too, but those mainly concerned the decreasing profitability of slave ownership as supply outpaced demand. The slave-owning class wanted to see new slave states to increase demand, and they were scared a Republican government would interfere with that. Maybe it wouldn't have, but they ensured that it did.

I have nothing against Southern pride, the battle flag, Confederate monuments, any of that. These things are an indelible part of American history and a lively aspect of our culture. But that doesn't change the fact the Civil War was started by the Southern elite to protect their investment in chattel slavery.

 

[anionfarflung]

A nigger-spic hybrid is currently planning a BLM protest in Osaka, Japan and a lot of Japanese are telling her to stop because of COVID.

Why is Dominique Skye in Japan?

 

[Local Fed]

BLM sees ultimate power in the United States above all other nations. And they want it for themselves without doing any hard work.

I preferred it when they weren't doing any hard work but at least stayed at home while not doing it.

 

[ErrForceOnez]

I've noticed that the more left leaning portion of the media (including a bunch of propaganda on social media) has a habit of establishing things as "facts" in a specific way. I have been wanting to bring this up for a while but I really don't know how to articulate it. They have a habit of just pretending something (A) is a fact and using it to make another argument (B), not to further the argument they are making (B), but to create a pattern of using that initial thing (A) as a "fact" to back up other arguments. Eventually people just start repeating that thing (A) as a fact on their own, and the media never even has to lie to you telling you its real. There has to be a name for this kind of thing.

You see this a lot with the "systemic racism" bullshit, and the "police are racists". Also with stuff like the wage gap, but they have outright claimed the wage gap is real too. They do this type of thing a lot with Trump too, they imply things they don't want to outright accuse him of this way, like arguing some shit about him because and using the "fact" that hes an established rapist/racist/pedo. I think it stands out the most with the whole "cops kill black people" thing. I know people in real life that have just accepted that cops murder black people left and right, and I can't really get them to give me an answer as to why they believe this outside of it just being an accepted fact among the public.

 

[Crystal Golem]

Things looking pretty tense in Seattle.

 

[Agent Proper]

Things looking pretty tense in Seattle.

I am watching this stream and Andy has been pretty entertaining. Seattle is going off tonight.

 

[Kane Lives]

I've noticed that the more left leaning portion of the media (including a bunch of propaganda on social media) has a habit of establishing things as "facts" in a specific way. I have been wanting to bring this up for a while but I really don't know how to articulate it. They have a habit of just pretending something (A) is a fact and using it to make another argument (B), not to further the argument they are making (B), but to create a pattern of using that initial thing (A) as a "fact" to back up other arguments. Eventually people just start repeating that thing (A) as a fact on their own, and the media never even has to lie to you telling you its real. There has to be a name for this kind of thing.

You see this a lot with the "systemic racism" bullshit, and the "police are racists". Also with stuff like the wage gap, but they have outright claimed the wage gap is real too. They do this type of thing a lot with Trump too, they imply things they don't want to outright accuse him of this way, like arguing some shit about him because and using the "fact" that hes an established rapist/racist/pedo. I think it stands out the most with the whole "cops kill black people" thing. I know people in real life that have just accepted that cops murder black people left and right, and I can't really get them to give me an answer as to why they believe this outside of it just being an accepted fact among the public.

Citogenesis

 

[muh_moobs]

I think they were implying that Barron was Horus and Trump was the Big E.

No, Trump IS the God Emperor of Mankind.

This is a totally real photograph taken as he departed the White House for that restaurant in Maine.

 

[cantankerous jackalope]

All these riots have done is make me slightly more racist and unironically buy DNAForce and TurboForce off the InfoWars store

 

[Local Fed]

I've noticed that the more left leaning portion of the media (including a bunch of propaganda on social media) has a habit of establishing things as "facts" in a specific way. I have been wanting to bring this up for a while but I really don't know how to articulate it. They have a habit of just pretending something (A) is a fact and using it to make another argument (B), not to further the argument they are making (B), but to create a pattern of using that initial thing (A) as a "fact" to back up other arguments. Eventually people just start repeating that thing (A) as a fact on their own, and the media never even has to lie to you telling you its real. There has to be a name for this kind of thing.

You see this a lot with the "systemic racism" bullshit, and the "police are racists". Also with stuff like the wage gap, but they have outright claimed the wage gap is real too. They do this type of thing a lot with Trump too, they imply things they don't want to outright accuse him of this way, like arguing some shit about him because and using the "fact" that hes an established rapist/racist/pedo. I think it stands out the most with the whole "cops kill black people" thing. I know people in real life that have just accepted that cops murder black people left and right, and I can't really get them to give me an answer as to why they believe this outside of it just being an accepted fact among the public.

I think what you're describing is them trying to appeal to their own authority. By saying "fact" and blindly shooting off numbers 90% of people will just go along with it since 98% of people don't look anything up. It's a fact that this works really well since so many things have been accepted in the culture be it on the Left, Right or anything in between. Basically it's kind of like memes, but establishment approved.

 

[ErrForceOnez]

There’s tons of LGBT people in leadership at BLM too. I think most of their initial leadership is alphabet people. I never understood why black gay people are always militant black activists when they are HATED by the black community for being gay. It’s like they think if they do nice things for black people their community might finally accept them. It’s really pathetic.

Oh 100%, the blacks fucking HATE the gays, more than anyone else besides maybe the hardcore muslim arabs. Especially Jamaicans, I have known multiple Jamaicans that legitimately believe the gays have some kind of power (or some sickness you can catch) that can turn other people gay. They also tend to hate the jews. Their whole coalition of the non-whites and gays will eventually collapse.

 

[Genocide Junkie]

I've noticed that the more left leaning portion of the media (including a bunch of propaganda on social media) has a habit of establishing things as "facts" in a specific way. I have been wanting to bring this up for a while but I really don't know how to articulate it. They have a habit of just pretending something (A) is a fact and using it to make another argument (B), not to further the argument they are making (B), but to create a pattern of using that initial thing (A) as a "fact" to back up other arguments. Eventually people just start repeating that thing (A) as a fact on their own, and the media never even has to lie to you telling you its real. There has to be a name for this kind of thing.

You see this a lot with the "systemic racism" bullshit, and the "police are racists". Also with stuff like the wage gap, but they have outright claimed the wage gap is real too. They do this type of thing a lot with Trump too, they imply things they don't want to outright accuse him of this way, like arguing some shit about him because and using the "fact" that hes an established rapist/racist/pedo. I think it stands out the most with the whole "cops kill black people" thing. I know people in real life that have just accepted that cops murder black people left and right, and I can't really get them to give me an answer as to why they believe this outside of it just being an accepted fact among the public.

The word you're looking for might be "dogma." Also, notice how any argument made to contradict the dogma is taboo.