The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[coach_mclurk]

I bet Max is gonna wear a dress to his own wedding.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I bet Max is gonna wear a dress to his own wedding.

And yet there's ANOTHER thing that makes no sense.

Okay, adults somehow mentally revert into children...what in the fuck leads them into getting married?

I don't think Enter even knows, or cares, since all he cares about is the reversal of roles for adults and children. The sheer logistical mess of Lovecraftian elder god scale horror that comes from upending the natural order of psychological maturity probably never occurs to him because I don't think it's entirely coincidental a lot of that shit also happens to be stuff he doesn't care about in general.

I think what this reveals about Enter is that he is yet another example of 'alt. world Christian Weston Chandler' - you have Christian Prime (ol' CWC himself), Brianna Wu ('Chris with Money'), and now you have Enter - who is effectively Chris with something actually remotely resembling drive to actually get their entertainment property past the point of hand-drawn comics.

Each Chris variant has one of the seven sins applied to them. For Chris Prime, several apply of course but personally I think its a tie between Sloth and Envy - for Brianna Wu, it's Greed. For Enter, it's Pride. He thinks his shit don't stink and he knows better than anyone how to make a good cartoon. Obviously this is untrue and GA is his CWCville, escapism into his utopia where the problems of the adult world supposedly don't exist because adults aren't in charge...and also torturing some poor little kid with constant crossdressing, He shuts down anybody who would point out flaws in his lifelong masterpiece and thinks someday, some TV station is going to give him full creative control for a show with zero marketability.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

Spoiler: rules

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Apparently you can't audition to be an artist either. The reasoning, at least for voices, is that Enter wants storyboards done first. I don't see why he doesn't just get voices first since so many people want to audition. The scripts are finished after all. Maybe if he had a voiced scene or two and some art to go along with it the indiegogo wouldn't have failed as hard.

Enter, you misspelled role there.

What is he trying to accomplish by having less people work for him? The only thing I can assume is that he doesn't want to pay more people, but if that's the case, he's going to have an even more difficult time getting this show off the ground. This is the equivalent of putting up a "Help Not Wanted" sign in front of a business.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

And yet there's ANOTHER thing that makes no sense.

Okay, adults somehow mentally revert into children...what in the fuck leads them into getting married?

They don't actually mentally revert into kids, they have adult mentalities. Which is, really, part of the problem because if they're smarter, stronger, etc. it makes no sense that there has never been any sort of uprising. It doesn't make sense that only one person (Shane) realizes the world is fucked up. It doesn't make sense the adults are being taught how to do "kid stuff" in school that they should remember from their own youth.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

Spoiler: rules

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Apparently you can't audition to be an artist either. The reasoning, at least for voices, is that Enter wants storyboards done first. I don't see why he doesn't just get voices first since so many people want to audition. The scripts are finished after all. Maybe if he had a voiced scene or two and some art to go along with it the indiegogo wouldn't have failed as hard.

He's held auditions for voice actors in the past, and even had a few "mainstays" in the crew. His problem is that he's taken so long to make this pilot that every single one of those actors have either dropped the project or left the Internet entirely. Enter probably can't stand that he let such talented artists slip through his fingers, and upon realizing that nobody has patience for his meandering bullshit, instead of learning not to meander and to finish his project faster, he just says "Fuck it. I'm not listening to any potential until I'm absolutely sure they'll stick with me. How long until I'm ready for them? Potatoes, that's how long.."

 

[Optimus Prime]

He's held auditions for voice actors in the past, and even had a few "mainstays" in the crew. His problem is that he's taken so long to make this pilot that every single one of those actors have either dropped the project or left the Internet entirely. Enter probably can't stand that he let such talented artists slip through his fingers, and upon realizing that nobody has patience for his meandering bullshit, instead of learning not to meander and to finish his project faster, he just says "Fuck it. I'm not listening to any potential until I'm absolutely sure they'll stick with me. How long until I'm ready for them? Potatoes, that's how long.."

Like, what the actual fuck is he even thinking is his next step here?

 

[tamago]

Do you think Enter wants to be the one forced into a dress or to force another man into a dress?

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Do you think Enter wants to be the one forced into a dress or to force another man into a dress?

Both.

 

[Pachyderm Patriarch]

Do you think Enter wants to be the one forced into a dress or to force another man into a dress?

I don't know, you tell me.

 

[Delta Δ]

I don't know, you tell me.
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Foreshadowing.

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

I don't know, you tell me.
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Is there nothing this weirdo won’t do?!

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

Yeah, this. People in this thread keep speculating on a trans Enter saga, but I'm seriously doubtful that this is where it's leading. He is just very, very fixated on crossdressing. I don't even think you can place him in with Autogyenophile trenders since his obsession is with seeing other people get forced into feminine roles they dislike and being humiliated, not anything to do with himself turning into a girl.

He has drawn both his old and new avatars crossdressing, as well as Sally's dad, who looks exactly like Enter does, but those drawings still retain very male features with the shoulders and facial hair etc. I think if those were meant to project his desire to actually be a chick he would have actually done a full gender-bend of the avatar instead of just putting it in a bad drag costume.

Fetishes run in clusters, because a fucked-up brain prone to forming fetishes never stops with making just one. Enter has already entered the gravitational well of the tranny black hole, and it is only a matter of time until he falls past the event horizon.

I guess it's just funny to think about all the reasons Enter could go trans even if he won't. It's all really suspicious but in reality Enter is probably just super oblivious to all of it, much like he is with... well, everything. It's also interesting to note he made a whole writing tip article on how you should never assume a joke you're shoving down everyone's throats is funny, and yet his defense for putting Max in a dress all the time is because it's funny.

He may be oblivious now but he won't be forever. Autists don't care about something right up until they do, then they tend to hyperfocus on it. He's doomed.

 

[MysticMisty]

What is he trying to accomplish by having less people work for him? The only thing I can assume is that he doesn't want to pay more people, but if that's the case, he's going to have an even more difficult time getting this show off the ground. This is the equivalent of putting up a "Help Not Wanted" sign in front of a business.

Maybe it's because he only surrounds himself with yes-men. More people means a higher likelihood that someone will dare to tell him no. Or worse, point out a flaw in his work. And Enter can't have either one of those happen.

 

[LiquidKid]

The largest Catch-22 when it comes to Growing Around is that his main path to funding something in relation to it(certainly not a full episode, not remotely close, but the other stuff like books and graphic novels, maybe even a small short) is the one thing that he would never be able to do: A dedicated Q&A stream.

I’ve seen the ridiculous amount of money he makes when just streaming nothing. He makes hundreds if not even thousands in some cases off of superchats from autists wanting to know his opinion on animated shows he’s never seen, or games he’s never played. If he were to dedicate such a stream just to GA questions, he could certainly cash in... if he was comfortable with answering literally anything at all about the show’s universe, which he very much isn’t.

It’s a shame, too, because both such a stream and any resulting material that might happen from the proceeds would be guaranteed to be terrible.

Superchats really did ruin the internet

I honestly don't know how shows are created, so if someone knows more please chime in, but I'd imagine writers and storyboard artists work closely together so the artist can draw what the writer envisioned in their head when they typed out the script.

This is actually a more complicated question than you realize and there are a lot of factors to consider.
For instance, some shows are board drive I.E. the majority of Cartoon Network productions, where the writers write up a outline and the board artists use it as a starting point.
I.E.
“It’s morning and John goes into the store to buy milk for his coffee.”

the story artists would take that sentence and interpret it however they decided, writing all the dialog and generally creating the gags, bit the general plot would be written out as if it were a film treatment. Which is basically what that is.

Then there are script driven shows where the writers draft up literally everything that happens on screen. Think the Simpsons.
I.E.
“John wakes up to the sound of his alarm, which reads six am. He showers and attempts to brush his unruly hair. he nearly trips as he walks down the stairs as he heads toward his kitchen. He opens the fridge and is shocked to discover that he is out of milk.- yadad yada”
The artists take this and use the script as a close guideline to draw out everything exactly as it appears on the page with a few director-approved ad-libs here and there to make something flow better visually.
The writer is more involved in this, but they don’t actually work with the story artists directly, this is usually the editor and the director’s job at that point. It’s only when the writer wears multiple hats that they get more involved, which happens quite often actually.
Then there is the weird third scenario where the story is envisioned by the artists, and the writers are there to turn it into a workable script. Think most Disney animated films. These are the projects where the writers work closest with the artists because they have to make sure the script fits the original vision and any changes get made for good reason. This is mainly a movie thing rather than a tv thing because these productions take the longest and writers are often traded out depending on how it goes(that’s why you rarely hear about the writers on an animated movie and you see a separate credit of “story by”)

The life of a animated tv writer is usually a weekly or occasionally daily writers room meeting where they pitch episode ideas, if the showrunner likes the idea, they then spend the rest of the meeting ironing out the details as a team, usually outlining the episode and the joke beats, then they assign the episode to a writer on the team(not always the person who pitched it), this is usually done until most of the season is outlined and everyone has their collection of scripts to write, then they all break away and go home to work on their scripts(some work on the office but it’s rare because writers usually have their own conditions for how they work best) then they go back either at the end of the week or the end of the month depending on the show schedule and the show runner goes over the script and makes edits before sending it in to be approved by the network.The network respond with either approval, rejection, or changes to be made before approval, then actual work on the episode begins for the artists while the writer gets to work on the next episode in their pipeline while the show runner deals with the artists.
That’s why it’s so unfeasible for one person to be the sole writer. Hope this helped explain it a little

 

[coach_mclurk]

Superchats really did ruin the internet




This is actually a more complicated question than you realize and there are a lot of factors to consider.
For instance, some shows are board drive I.E. the majority of Cartoon Network productions, where the writers write up a outline and the board artists use it as a starting point.
I.E.
“It’s morning and John goes into the store to buy milk for his coffee.”

the story artists would take that sentence and interpret it however they decided, writing all the dialog and generally creating the gags, bit the general plot would be written out as if it were a film treatment. Which is basically what that is.

Then there are script driven shows where the writers draft up literally everything that happens on screen. Think the Simpsons.
I.E.
“John wakes up to the sound of his alarm, which reads six am. He showers and attempts to brush his unruly hair. he nearly trips as he walks down the stairs as he heads toward his kitchen. He opens the fridge and is shocked to discover that he is out of milk.- yadad yada”
The artists take this and use the script as a close guideline to draw out everything exactly as it appears on the page with a few director-approved ad-libs here and there to make something flow better visually.
The writer is more involved in this, but they don’t actually work with the story artists directly, this is usually the editor and the director’s job at that point. It’s only when the writer wears multiple hats that they get more involved, which happens quite often actually.
Then there is the weird third scenario where the story is envisioned by the artists, and the writers are there to turn it into a workable script. Think most Disney animated films. These are the projects where the writers work closest with the artists because they have to make sure the script fits the original vision and any changes get made for good reason. This is mainly a movie thing rather than a tv thing because these productions take the longest and writers are often traded out depending on how it goes(that’s why you rarely hear about the writers on an animated movie and you see a separate credit of “story by”)

The life of a animated tv writer is usually a weekly or occasionally daily writers room meeting where they pitch episode ideas, if the showrunner likes the idea, they then spend the rest of the meeting ironing out the details as a team, usually outlining the episode and the joke beats, then they assign the episode to a writer on the team(not always the person who pitched it), this is usually done until most of the season is outlined and everyone has their collection of scripts to write, then they all break away and go home to work on their scripts(some work on the office but it’s rare because writers usually have their own conditions for how they work best) then they go back either at the end of the week or the end of the month depending on the show schedule and the show runner goes over the script and makes edits before sending it in to be approved by the network.The network respond with either approval, rejection, or changes to be made before approval, then actual work on the episode begins for the artists while the writer gets to work on the next episode in their pipeline while the show runner deals with the artists.
That’s why it’s so unfeasible for one person to be the sole writer. Hope this helped explain it a little

Yeah, that's an amazing explanation, thanks for typing all that up! Since Enter said his show is script driven it feels like he only half understands that kind of workflow. Sometime's he'll write out specific actions like you described but often there's very little outside of the dialogue to work off of.

 

[Just_a_Bored_Guy]

More griping about lockdowns, this time with a BLM twist: https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/journal/People-are-jokes-844829264

 

[LiquidKid]

Yeah, that's an amazing explanation, thanks for typing all that up! Since Enter said his show is script driven it feels like he only half understands that kind of workflow. Sometime's he'll write out specific actions like you described but often there's very little outside of the dialogue to work off of.

Nothing he does would fly. At best it could be a low budget indie thing with maybe 4 people tops, which isn’t what he is going for seeing as he wants at least $350,000 per episode, implying a large staff of animators.

I think it’s worth saying that the average person won’t know any of this info and shouldn’t be criticized for not knowing it. But when you’re in your late 20’s and you claim it’s your passion and life goal, you should have theoretically tried to learned everything there is to know

More griping about lockdowns, this time with a BLM twist: https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/journal/People-are-jokes-844829264

“Tell me, praytell, when is a protest okay?”

John, that’s not how English works.

 

[DickMain]

Weird, I don't see a rule that says "If you talk about the LGBTQIA+ community, everything you say must be 100% praise."

There was also a rule about no-NSFW, but there's literal cross-dressing foot-fetish dom lite porn going on. I'm counting the days until Enter is finally outed as a legitimate child-toucher.

 

[Master Shake]

I'm counting the days until Enter is finally outed as a legitimate child-toucher.

Sorry to bring up Freddy Got Fingered again, but...

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

There was also a rule about no-NSFW, but there's literal cross-dressing foot-fetish dom lite porn going on. I'm counting the days until Enter is finally outed as a legitimate child-toucher.

He doesn't get out enough to have any real contact with children and he's probably too re.tarded to maintain seconds of eye contact, so don't worry too much