Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Mister Dongs]

YBZ says he does not identify as comicsgate, but some other people do.

Good look into Simple Zack's mind as he projects his own dilemma onto SGM without realizing it.

"A subgroup of customers that call themselves 'Comicsgate'. Things are different right now, as far as I can tell there's like four splinter factions... I insist it's simply just a hashtag. But there are some people that it's very much part of their identity to identify as one of the groups. And I Sean didn't weigh in. We saw throughout 2017 and well into 2018 that groups that effectively live on twitter would stalk and harass and torment people who didn't kowtow 100% to their politics and behavior. Zack Sean has bluffed this off; he's never castigated any group of customers in any way. He's basically tried to stay out of trouble. Problem is I've he's tried to ride the fence. On one side is customers who want to give me him money, on the other side is people who basically want to drive him to his knees and get him to blow his brains out, and he's trying not to piss off both groups at the same time."

 

[CapeKnight]

Good look into Simple Zack's mind as he projects his own dilemma onto SGM without realizing it.

"A subgroup of customers that call themselves 'Comicsgate'. Things are different right now, as far as I can tell there's like four splinter factions... I insist it's simply just a hashtag. But there are some people that it's very much part of their identity to identify as one of the groups. And I Sean didn't weigh in. We saw throughout 2017 and well into 2018 that groups that effectively live on twitter would stalk and harass and torment people who didn't kowtow 100% to their politics and behavior. Zack Sean has bluffed this off; he's never castigated any group of customers in any way. He's basically tried to stay out of trouble. Problem is I've he's tried to ride the fence. On one side is customers who want to give me him money, on the other side is people who basically want to drive him to his knees and get him to blow his brains out, and he's trying not to piss off both groups at the same time."

Simple Zack has no idea what he's doing to his fans.






There's definitely Simple Zack fans who aren't tied to CG, they're just there for him. However, he's in the middle of the warzone with no alliance to speak of. His Messiah status will be revoked much sooner than he thinks if the cult decides to do so.

 

[A nameless trool]

Simple Zack has no idea what he's doing to his fans.

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There's definitely Simple Zack fans who aren't tied to CG, they're just there for him. However, he's in the middle of the warzone with no alliance to speak of. His Messiah status will be revoked much sooner than he thinks if the cult decides to do so.

This sounds like splinter faction #5. Or EVSCG that stay out of the #hasttagcombat

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

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She was blacklisted for appearing with the proud boys and hanging out with Gavin Minnesota.

That damn autocorrect.

 

[Newman's Own]

On one side is customers who want to give me him money, on the other side is people who basically want to drive him to his knees and get him to blow his brains out, and he's trying not to piss off both groups at the same time."

The analogy is perfect right up to this part. I don't think Zack is fence sitting for people who want him to blow his brains out like SGM. He's fence sitting between normies who don't know what's going on, ex-CG who want him to side against WC and EVSCG if they care what he thinks at all anymore and Ethan's paypigs who behave exactly the way Meyer despises but they give him money because they are barely conscious idiots.

Really Zack's on the fence between taking Ethan's fan's money and pointing out that they've become everything he hates about the big two cancel culture.

Zack won't be making any videos calling conservative creators homopobes or otherwise trying to cancel them any time soon like @FROG but he also won't be calling Ethan's fans out if they do while they're buying the latest JawBreakers offering.

To be fair that's not his problem and money talks.

 

[verissimus]

Yeah, Ethan is dumb and thinks that he can still lie repeatedly and gaslight people on how he isn't a scumbag who uses fallguys like TUG and WC to cripple people who outshine him and don't kiss the ring. It's all to avoid dealing with the fact he's an emotionally immature faggot who brought his toxic office methods (hilariously the same shit that he whined about when he got unpersoned too btw) into the movement. Like sure, paypigs will always fall for that bullshitting usually (until they get targeted like he did with WC lol), but the lie only works when people don't know you lie.

Once you're outed as a liar, your words lose most of their meaning. It's hilarious too given that again, he had prior movements that would've shown this if he looked to them for what NOT to do, but lol no. Ethan thought he could do it better because the idiot pros are that much dumber than the targets his forebears like Carl of Applebee's and the Boulder King had to deal with.

What's one of the top ten traits "cows" exhibit : not learning either from their own mistakes or the mistakes of other "cows" that they are fully aware of.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Wait, so which is Martina, White Supremacist, or White Nationalist? There's a difference between the two.

I assume the reasoning for picking up Markota is because her narrative coincides with Ethan's. The problem with "I was ousted for being a Trump Supporter!" narrative is that once the lie breaks down, it leaves both party to look particularly stupid, and even moreso on Ethan's side than anything because it really means he doesn't know what politics even is about at this point since he can't see beyond the narrative they're trying to play.

And it's a women willing to strip herself, so I think that helps with his tendency to hide his homosexuality factor. Throw nekkid women at the paypigs, and the paypigs will throw money at you.

I did some more digging into Martina's alt-right history and found a rabbit hole of nuttery that rivals Sheila Allen for conspiritard of comicsgate.


First off she thinks her blood type makes her a decendant of the children of "fallen angels" or some crazy shit. I looked it up but it was nothing but biblical wackjobs posting about nonsense.
This "blood type" horse shit also seems to be the premise of the "lady alchemy" comic book. Except she actually believes it.

This is self explanatory.

She was "redpilled"

Like I said before she hates Muslims and is a white nationalist.

Her husband claiming he knew terrorists BEFORE they became terrorists....okay.

She claims she wasn't a pizzagater she only talked about pizzagate and made a bunch of references to pizza in a weird conspiratorial way.

Totally not a pizzagater. Also notice this is from a proud boys video from the watermark.

These are the "friends" Ethan stands with. She claims she was "doxed by antifa" but that seems to be a reference to this

New York’s Alt Right (Part I)

There is no shortage of media coverage for the “Alt Right”—the name for a loosely organized group of white nationalists who’ve rebranded their image and learned how to use the internet. The Alt Rig…

nycantifa.wordpress.com

Obscure WordPress blog that shows her face and the faces of proud boy members. She ran with the narrative that she was "doxed" and that her fellow strippers ran her out of the industry.

Of course she has no proof for any of this except for random screen caps of people shitting on her, mostly from SJW commenters. Any verified alt-right twitter person is going to have SJW's shitting up their feed so again it proves nothing.

Ethan runs with the proud boys, he keeps his conspiritard hookers close and his neo-nazi strippers even closer.
Hopefully this sheds more light on her political leanings for you @CapeKnight.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

She's complaining that someone self inserted into her self-insert comic.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/fcc-chairman-video A buzz feed article talking about Martina's association with the Pizzagate conspiracy in a video produced by the Proud Boys.

Thirst trapping at it's finest.

Isn't it ironic that war campaign also does explicit, sexually dehumanizing death threats.

 

[Puddleduck]

SGM's comic seems to be stalling at around $165k I wonder if his cucking himself has damaged his chances?

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

SGM's comic seems to be stalling at around $165k I wonder if his cucking himself has damaged his chances?

Pretty much, the way he sold out against Doug probably ruined his indie career, he will be like zack, stagnant after 100k.

 

[SpiderDerp]

Pretty much, the way he sold out against Doug probably ruined his indie career, he will be like zack, stagnant after 100k.

Yeah if he didn't do this I bet he'd have a ton of Doug and CG backers coming in. Who wants to support a cuck?

 

[Newman's Own]

Pretty much, the way he sold out against Doug probably ruined his indie career, he will be like zack, stagnant after 100k.

SGM will do a lot more on this campaign. Campaigns always stall until just before the end.

If he was smart he'd be getting some serious marketing advice from Doug. Tennaple has done a lot of research on different marketing techniques from stretch goals to YouTube presence to FaceBook adds. If a guy wants to really max out his campaign me needs to be ABS right to the end. What we see from most of these guys is them not bothering in the middle of their campaign because sales dropped off and they don't see the point. But the point is to keep the campaign in mind so there are more people aware and jumping in for a strong finish.

Always be selling.

It certainly didn't help when he folded for the SJW cancel squad though.

 

[Analog Devolved]

For those of you who haven't been following, Tim Seeley offered up a rare Cyberfrog/Creed cover drawing from 1997 as part of the BLM charity auction run by Gail Simone.

The winning bid was $1350 bucks. More than I was expecting because the guy only has 4 fingers and his hand is bigger than his head.
Ethan himself bid $500 bucks and several anonymous bidders got it up to 1k which is what I honestly expected.

Of course the clown himself chimed in on the sale of what is arguably one of his worst looking covers.
There's a reason it was unreleased look at that hand lmao what the fuck.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

SGM will do a lot more on this campaign. Campaigns always stall until just before the end.

If he was smart he'd be getting some serious marketing advice from Doug. Tennaple has done a lot of research on different marketing techniques from stretch goals to YouTube presence to FaceBook adds. If a guy wants to really max out his campaign me needs to be ABS right to the end. What we see from most of these guys is them not bothering in the middle of their campaign because sales dropped off and they don't see the point. But the point is to keep the campaign in mind so there are more people aware and jumping in for a strong finish.

Always be selling.

It certainly didn't help when he folded for the SJW cancel squad though.

Marketing can be tough, and the more indiegogos you do, the more you'll find different ways to promote. I could be wrong but I think this is his first crowdfund. So he might still be figuring out newsletter and youtube marketing, which are the best methods of promotion.

But at the same time, everyone's campaign will stall during the middle. It's the toughest time to promote because it's discouraging how little comes in during the middle. For me, at least, that's how it is. Because by then, basically everyone who knows you knows about it. That was the tough part with my latest campaign Secret Comics Presents, was finding new people. Everyone who knew me or wanted to support me knew about it within the first week. Sure we got backers during the middle, but that was people who couldn't afford it on week one, and not really anybody new.

The thing about YouTube, is you can ALWAYS bring in new people with each video if you do it right. I think SGM started a YT, but I don't watch him, and I don't know what all he's doing there, but most pros--Daniel Warren Johnson, Scott Snyder, Bryan Edward Hill--that I've seen do yt, typically do like 3 videos a year, so they don't always take advantage of it. The benefits of having a newsletter too, is that you can do swaps with your friends. A lot of authors do this, and I don't see many comic pros do it, but I'm hoping to learn more about email marketing.

Not to turn any of that into being about me, by the way, but I always like the marketing discussion. I like marketing, but it's also the toughest thing to do. I've been thinking about it a lot lately--trying to figure out what I'll do for the next campaign (not sure when that'll be).

And either way, he's still made a crazy big amount. I'd be surprised though if he doesn't break 200k. When a campaign is funded, and as big as his, everyone likes to see how high they can push it, especially at the end.

 

[Newman's Own]

Tim Seeley offered up a rare Cyberfrog/Creed cover drawing from 1997 as part of the BLM charity auction run by Gail Simone.

Nice to see the left wingers who don't always get along like Simone, Seeley and @FROG still find a way to come together and get behind a racial identitarian Marxist movement like BLM.

I wonder if Ethan donated to pay bail for looters as well.

Not to turn any of that into being about me, by the way, but I always like the marketing discussion. I like marketing, but it's also the toughest thing to do. I've been thinking about it a lot lately--trying to figure out what I'll do for the next campaign (not sure when that'll be).

Marketing is the least understood and often most critical element of business. It seems like voodoo when it works and it seems impossible when it doesn't.

There are always a lot of intangibles in play that make what worked last time not necessarily the answer this time. The smartest thing you can do is talk to people who are successful at it regularly. Pulido, Tennaple and even a guy like Jason Brubaker probably have a lot of valuable advice. Becoming a YouTube star is a good route but the odds of success in becoming a YouTube star are not good. Unless a guy is planning to devote 20 hours a week or more to YouTube or has a support network like CG it probably isn't worth risking a lot of time over. Different tactics will work for different people and audiences. None of it is easy to figure out.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

Nice to see the left wingers who don't always get along like Simone, Seeley and @FROG still find a way to come together and get behind a racial identitarian Marxist movement like BLM.

I wonder if Ethan donated to pay bail for looters as well.


Marketing is the least understood and often most critical element of business. It seems like voodoo when it works and it seems impossible when it doesn't.

There are always a lot of intangibles in play that make what worked last time not necessarily the answer this time. The smartest thing you can do is talk to people who are successful at it regularly. Pulido, Tennaple and even a guy like Jason Brubaker probably have a lot of valuable advice. Becoming a YouTube star is a good route but the odds of success in becoming a YouTube star are not good. Unless a guy is planning to devote 20 hours a week or more to YouTube or has a support network like CG it probably isn't worth risking a lot of time over. Different tactics will work for different people and audiences. None of it is easy to figure out.

I'm not saying youtube star. I'm saying gathering a fanbase. I've come across quite a few channels where the people aren't "stars" but have a few thousand subs, and those subs all buy their novels/comics/whatever.

 

[Twinkletard]

I think the main problem with SGM's project is the way its presented. It doesn't look interesting or dynamic when you first look at it, and your first impression is the most important.

The main picture is just a bunch of people posing and doesn't tell me what the story is going to be about. I guess this is going to be about this dude and his grandma, a guy jumping up in the air, and some furry guy in a cat costume holding a sword? Generic.

One of the things that really drives me nuts about modern comics are these covers where it just shows the characters standing around and doesn't show the viewer what the book is going to be about. That tells me as a reader the story was a complete afterthought and this is going to be an art book, more or less.

A good comic, in my opinion, compels the person looking at it to pick it up and see what the fuss is all about. It doesn't even need to have words, just some dynamic action. Case in point:

I know you have to read more into his project's description to figure out the real details, but who's going to do that? One look at that uninteresting picture, and they're clicking away. A missed opportunity.

I'm not a big fan of Murphy like other people are, but I'll acknowledge he's a good artist for the most part. I'm not going to back it because I'm sure it'll be at my LCS and discounted at some point. I picked up the deluxe Punk Rock Jesus for eight dollars that way.

Like I've said before, and it's echoed by a lot of customers on KF, these books are just too expensive for what you get. I'm getting to the point where I'm just going to hunt for back issues at second hand stores and live vicariously in the past.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

Is it just me or has EVS put on quite a bit of weight recently?

Spoiler: Jersey Douchebag everyone

 

[NasserRabadi13]

I think the main problem with SGM's project is the way its presented. It doesn't look interesting or dynamic when you first look at it, and your first impression is the most important.

The main picture is just a bunch of people posing and doesn't tell me what the story is going to be about. I guess this is going to be about this dude and his grandma, a guy jumping up in the air, and some furry guy in a cat costume holding a sword? Generic.

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One of the things that really drives me nuts about modern comics are these covers where it just shows the characters standing around and doesn't show the viewer what the book is going to be about. That tells me as a reader the story was a complete afterthought and this is going to be an art book, more or less.

A good comic, in my opinion, compels the person looking at it to pick it up and see what the fuss is all about. It doesn't even need to have words, just some dynamic action. Case in point:

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I know you have to read more into his project's description to figure out the real details, but who's going to do that? One look at that uninteresting picture, and they're clicking away. A missed opportunity.

I'm not a big fan of Murphy like other people are, but I'll acknowledge he's a good artist for the most part. I'm not going to back it because I'm sure it'll be at my LCS and discounted at some point. I picked up the deluxe Punk Rock Jesus for eight dollars that way.

Like I've said before, and it's echoed by a lot of customers on KF, these books are just too expensive for what you get. I'm getting to the point where I'm just going to hunt for back issues at second hand stores and live vicariously in the past.

That's a great point, that's actually why I had no interest in it. The images all looked boring.

 

[Absurdity]

I think the main problem with SGM's project is the way its presented. It doesn't look interesting or dynamic when you first look at it, and your first impression is the most important.

The main picture is just a bunch of people posing and doesn't tell me what the story is going to be about. I guess this is going to be about this dude and his grandma, a guy jumping up in the air, and some furry guy in a cat costume holding a sword? Generic.

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One of the things that really drives me nuts about modern comics are these covers where it just shows the characters standing around and doesn't show the viewer what the book is going to be about. That tells me as a reader the story was a complete afterthought and this is going to be an art book, more or less.

It looks like the comic adaptation of the Onision/Chris Hansen saga.