Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

Pedophila = ~9 and under = child
Hebephilia = ~10-13 = pre-teen aka transitioning into adult
Ephebophilia = 13+ = teenager aka young adult

This does vary person by person. By lowering the age of consent to 12/13, we're forcing young adults aka teenagers (mostly women) to be more responsible with whom they have sex and allow them to get onto a path to marriage sooner. These people are NOT kids, they are biologically adults.

I think the idea 18 = legal adult is warping your perspective. You're seeing high schoolers as older children rather than young adults which was the historical aka trad perspective.
How will arguing this thing help you with pushing your other points.
Not to mention... You really fail at making arguments and rhetoric.
Rule zero is pretty much keep the discussed issues limited and give the angle you are arguing about.
Not mixing it with weird taboo subjects would help you too.

In this thread you have touched upon.
  • age on consent
  • immigration
  • deportation
  • birth rates
  • media
  • racial relationships
  • cultural integration
etc. You didn't even tought about trying to find a middle group with people and selling your idea to them. even if you were 100% correct, just being one sided and hostile won't get you anywhere unless you have a bunch of goons. Then you could make hard influence tactics. You couldn't even get sockpuppets to help you out here, let alone proper users. So I won't give you much respect when it comes to social capital.
 
Pedophila = ~9 and under = child
Hebephilia = ~10-13 = pre-teen aka transitioning into adult
Ephebophilia = 13+ = teenager aka young adult

This does vary person by person. By lowering the age of consent to 12/13, we're forcing young adults aka teenagers (mostly women) to be more responsible with whom they have sex and allow them to get onto a path to marriage sooner. These people are NOT kids, they are biologically adults.

I think the idea 18 = legal adult is warping your perspective. You're seeing high schoolers as older children rather than young adults which was the historical aka trad perspective.
First of all, anyone who bothers making that delineation has whacked to child porn at least once.
Secondly, no, making people able to legally consent doesn't make them more responsible. The entire point of age of consent is that people under a certain age lack the mental ability and life experience to understand when they are being exploited, and therefore by making someone incapable of fucking themselves over until they have such ability to understand the consequences of their actions, it is possible to avoid predatory people.

Thirdly, it was also traditional to do all sorts of dangerous, lethal, or stupid shit at some point or another. "Trad perspective" is an invalid argument.
 
Two questions.

Are we still trading with everyone else in the world and keeping ourselves connected to all other countries like today, or are we just going to ban all non-whites from existing in our new white only America? If you let non-whites exist as tourists what kinds of rights or enforcement will they have to ensure they don't fuck up your white only safespace ethnostate?

If you're going to outsource jobs to China/India/whatever are you truly acting in your white utopia's best interests? Don't you think that might become an issue of contention that you make this "white first, white only" America, yet still take jobs away from whites? If I wanted a white ethnostate and wanted white only employees, how would you convince me that outsourcing is still reasonable?
1. I still want global trade. If you isolate yourself from the rest of the world, you'll end up like the USSR.
2. I am fine with tourism in moderate numbers. A lot of places like Venice or Amsterdam are talking about over tourism. So this is an issue but tourism is okay in moderate quantities, i.e. you don't feel like a foreigner in all your major cities.
3. Balancing act. You cannot just cut yourself off from the rest of the world. You'll fall behind other firms. So while I don't like outsourcing, I do think it's justified in some situations. I think free movement of people is much much more unpleasant than free movement of capital or ideas. Becoming a minority in your own nation and seeing your neighborhood disappear and culture change is much worse than losing a job.

21st century politics is a struggle between the nation and the corporation. Any group of people that doesn't control their borders will find themselves a minority in their own nation and eventually race mixed into a brown blob. https://youtu.be/5171eGo13hs
This the great purge. Weak groups that lack cohesion or lack the ability to protect their borders will go extinct, not necessarily through standard genocide but self-genocide, race-mixing.
Do you need to make a decision, do you want to exist as a people or will you let greed destroy you?
I don't support stopping all trade but I think these trade policies must be done in a way that is sustainable,m preserves the ethnic or racial group in the long-run.
Our policies are 100% unsustainable.

You didn't even tought about trying to find a middle group with people and selling your idea to them. even if you were 100% correct, just being one sided and hostile won't get you anywhere unless you have a bunch of goons. Then you could make hard influence tactics. You couldn't even get sockpuppets to help you out here, let alone proper users. So I won't give you much respect when it comes to social capital.
muh golden mean fallacy. Most of these issues don't have a middle ground. Some do like intl trade.
 
1. I still want global trade. If you isolate yourself from the rest of the world, you'll end up like the USSR.
2. I am fine with tourism in moderate numbers. A lot of places like Venice or Amsterdam are talking about over tourism. So this is an issue but tourism is okay in moderate quantities, i.e. you don't feel like a foreigner in all your major cities.
3. Balancing act. You cannot just cut yourself off from the rest of the world. You'll fall behind other firms. So while I don't like outsourcing, I do think it's justified in some situations. I think free movement of people is much much more unpleasant than free movement of capital or ideas. Becoming a minority in your own nation and seeing your neighborhood disappear and culture change is much worse than losing a job.

21st century politics is a struggle between the nation and the corporation. Any group of people that doesn't control their borders will find themselves a minority in their own nation and eventually race mixed into a brown blob. https://youtu.be/5171eGo13hs
This the great purge. Weak groups that lack cohesion or lack the ability to protect their borders will go extinct, not necessarily through standard genocide but self-genocide, race-mixing.
Do you need to make a decision, do you want to exist as a people or will you let greed destroy you?
I don't support stopping all trade but I think these trade policies must be done in a way that is sustainable,m preserves the ethnic or racial group in the long-run.
Our policies are 100% unsustainable.


muh golden mean fallacy. Most of these issues don't have a middle ground. Some do like intl trade.
I have a very important question for you.
 
First of all, anyone who bothers making that delineation has whacked to child porn at least once.
Secondly, no, making people able to legally consent doesn't make them more responsible. The entire point of age of consent is that people under a certain age lack the mental ability and life experience to understand when they are being exploited, and therefore by making someone incapable of fucking themselves over until they have such ability to understand the consequences of their actions, it is possible to avoid predatory people.

Thirdly, it was also traditional to do all sorts of dangerous, lethal, or stupid shit at some point or another. "Trad perspective" is an invalid argument.
ya you hate science, biology is a social construct and we should make decisions based on your feminist religion. okay bro.
Well i am looking at society and seeing major problems and trying to reverse bad decisions that were made in the last 100 years like age of consent + compulsory education.
 
ya you hate science, biology is a social construct and we should make decisions based on your feminist religion. okay bro.
Well i am looking at society and seeing major problems and trying to reverse bad decisions that were made in the last 100 years like age of consent + compulsory education.
It is amazing how you are able to pull an entire philosophy, life history, and thought process out of your cavernous spic ass, and wield that shit covered abortion of an argument like a cudgel to repeatedly bash your own face in.
 
It is amazing how you are able to pull an entire philosophy, life history, and thought process out of your cavernous spic ass, and wield that shit covered abortion of an argument like a cudgel to repeatedly bash your own face in.
it's amazing how much you hate biology and how much you love the feminist religion.
 
it's amazing how much you hate biology and how much you love the feminist religion.
I hate biology because obviously biologically nondeveloped people (IE, the underage) are, in my ideological framework, not for fucking? Until at least the secondary sex characteristics develop it is apparent to even an untrained eye that someone is not fully mature, which pushes your age of consent from 12 to 16. However, I also subscribe to the worldview that 16 year olds are stupid, inexperienced motherfuckers and therefore shouldn't have power over their own estate, barring exceptional circumstance.
 
it's amazing how much you hate biology and how much you love the feminist religion.
If biology, the same biology that informs us on our life and the life of countless organisms is feminist religion and conspiracy, then you should terminate yourself as a betrayal of your own views.

tl;dr - Kill yourself.
 
muh golden mean fallacy. Most of these issues don't have a middle ground. Some do like intl trade.
It's not about the "golden mean fallacy" idiot. It's about talking to people in a way you can communicate your ideas.
I tried to tell you a lot of times, that maybe try talking to people effectively. How hard it is to be?

Do you think your historical heroes (?) were autistic spergs who couldn't judge how people felt and talked to them accordingly. Geez.
Speaking of historical heroes. I seriously hope you read a lot of books.
 
I hate biology because obviously biologically nondeveloped people (IE, the underage) are, in my ideological framework, not for fucking? Until at least the secondary sex characteristics develop it is apparent to even an untrained eye that someone is not fully mature, which pushes your age of consent from 12 to 16.
I think this is true but it depends on the women.

However, I also subscribe to the worldview that 16 year olds are stupid, inexperienced motherfuckers and therefore shouldn't have power over their own estate, barring exceptional circumstance.
I disagree. This is the puberty blocker mentality. How will kids choose their gender when they're stunt from maturing. Likewise, people develop experience by making decisions and accepting responsibly, age of consent impairs this.
 
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