Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

[Positron]

They love the idea of science. They couldn't get less of a shit beyond the headlines.

They love the authority and cachet of Science. They just don't understand that Science gets the respect through proving itself useful, improving the lives of people for centuries. Postmodern bullshit like "gender is fluid" is not going to improve the life of anyone.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Woke Kindergarten, yay!

https://twitter.com/AkieaG/status/1255620821906849792

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I know some of you stated child indoctornation, but from the way they put it I think they're just being really condescending to normies instead. Thinking of their audience being as dumb and impressionable as children.

I said in the US Riots thread, but "Gone With The Wind" was taken off HBO Max and now Amazons reporting its currently their #1 Best Seller. The irony. Forgive me if someone already posted this.

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/gone-with-the-wind-amazon-best-seller-hbo-max-1234630577/

You can take art away from the people but you can never take people away from art (or something like that). People will go to great lengths to preserve the stuff that touched them, and others will go to great lengths to see forbidden fruit.

REEEEEing aside, I'm pretty sure most of those old shows and movies that got removed from circulation will be quietly reinstated once the companies feel it's safe to do so.

Yeah what cornflakes and Sayonara Li said. They might even make a song and dance about some of it. "Back from the disney vault" type of thing.

 

[Shaka Brah]

They love the authority and cachet of Science. They just don't understand that Science gets the respect through proving itself useful, improving the lives of people for centuries. Postmodern bullshit like "gender is fluid" is not going to improve the life of anyone.

There is nothing that the Cryptocracy loves more than credentialism. The Appeal to Authority is their foremost governing tactic.

 

[Dededon't]

ANYTHING TO GET THAT SWEET ACTIVISION-BLIZZARD PAYCHECK

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My decision to veer away from English dubs continues to be justified.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I would not be surprised if Andy Griffith is taken off after a while, but it's also the kind of show that could easily be placed back in reruns since there's nothing that can be used against the show aside from Andy Taylor being a cop and the show being set in the South during the 1950's.

The Dukes of Hazzard at least had the whole Confederate Flag controversy to convince normies to go along with cancelling reruns of it.

We were already never going to see a Police Academy movie again years before Current Year even started.

This.

COPS and Live PD are so cheap and have such a built-in audience with high ratings that they're essentially printing money for these networks.

Call me optimistic, but if this really backfires on the SJW's hard enough for Trump to win in the 2020 election, I'd expect a lot of shows like COPS to return and "problematic" yet widely beloved movies like Gone With The Wind to return around 2021 onward.

Even if it's just to recoup all the financial losses from COVID-19 and to pacify the masses and return to the regularly scheduled programming of bread and circuses so they can rebuild the trust of the public so they can push the narrative more effectively next time, they'll do it if this whole thing backfires on them.

At best, you might see a tacked-on disclaimer to cover their ass from the other side in a case like this.

The fact that Gone with the Wind is easily available on so many more services and forms of media somehow puts the lie to the whole censorship thing. Somehow it didn't leave those, did it?

If anything, blame HBO Max for having TCM's catalog without the careful curation the network gives you.

 

[Syaoran Li]

The fact that Gone with the Wind is easily available on so many more services and forms of media somehow puts the lie to the whole censorship thing. Somehow it didn't leave those, did it?

True, it didn't. But at the same time, I don't think HBO expected the backlash they got nor did they expect people to start buying physical copies of the movie since it was already available in streaming.

This was little more than a publicity stunt to virtue signal and cover their own asses, but I did not think they expected the DVD and Blu-Ray sales to get as high as they did since most of the big entertainment companies have been aggressively trying to push streaming services over buying physical media in recent years.

The fact that as soon as HBO made that announcement, sales went up through the roof for DVD and Blu-Ray copies of the movie and the fact that Hattie McDaniel's role in that movie netting the first Academy Award for a black actress in the history of Hollywood, so the rumor is that HBO might put it back on with a disclaimer or maybe some cuts once things cool down a bit more.

At the same time, this virtue signalling stunt more or less backfired for Warner Brothers/HBO and since physical media for movies and TV isn't entirely dead like it is for music (pretentious vinyl-loving hipsters aside) this more or less is a milder example of a silent majority backlash.

Gone With The Wind is one of those all-time American classic movies and even with its dated view of the antebellum South, it's still a brilliant movie that's beloved to this day by audiences.

The Birth of a Nation is even more groundbreaking in the history of film, but it's also a lot more explicitly racist and was more or less KKK propaganda. The fact that it's also a silent movie that's nearly three hours long also limits its potential for modern audiences even without its infamous history.

Plus, that movie is completely within the public domain and is so widely available in multiple formats that there's no way it'll ever completely disappear or be legally unavailable. But that's neither here nor there....

Like with most large corporations in all this, they're just covering their own asses now that the monster they've created is getting way too out of control. It's appeasement mixed with typical online slacktivism

 

[bothiggedyhog]

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classic narcissism from woke actors running circles in their brains trying to spit out what they wanna say, which is more narcissist bullshit about not getting enough roles cuz white. Hello fellow kids! here's how you can aim lower, like I did!
"I LOVE YOU, ACAB!"
that word could mean literally anything and she'd still post it. its fucking weird to read that statement

 

[Witthel]

Then why is Marvel as a comic series effectively dead and on life support with the MCU?

Seriously, the phrase "go woke, go broke" doesn't exist for no reason.

 

[Corn Flakes]

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Then why are franchises like Marvel on life support when it comes to the comics?

"Geek culture isn't suddenly left wing... it always was."

Sure, I'm quite willing to accept that.

Geek culture wasn't always so rife with terrible writing because the writers would rather swing an ideological cudgel instead of writing a good story with any level of subtlety, though.

That's something that pisses me off about comics. It was supposed to be "show, don't tell", but they're always "tell, don't show", with characters spelling out their morals like they think their audience is suddenly retarded. We're not in the 40s. Or even the 80s. This is not He-Man (I'm sorry, I think he's called "They-Person" these days) or Captain Planet: you don't need to spell out your moral lesson if it's clear enough. People have brains and geeks are notorious for using them, even if for frivolous purposes.

You can have a very good story about racism and civil rights or whatever cause you want, without sounding like something out of a Bizarro Chick Tract. There are plenty of progressive stories out there, and generally everybody loves a good, well-written"asshole gets his comeuppance" tale. But if all you can do is pump out condescending, self-righteous, poorly-written and homogeneous drivel because you think you're on the "right side of history", don't complain that no one buys it.

 

[Witthel]

"Geek culture isn't suddenly left wing... it always was."

Sure, I'm quite willing to accept that.

Geek culture wasn't always so rife with terrible writing because the writers would rather swing an ideological cudgel instead of writing a good story with any level of subtlety, though.

That's something that pisses me off about comics. It was supposed to be "show, don't tell", but they're always "tell, don't show", with characters spelling out their morals like they think their audience is suddenly retarded. We're not in the 40s. Or even the 80s. This is not He-Man (I'm sorry, I think he's called "They-Person" these days) or Captain Planet: you don't need to spell out your moral lesson if it's clear enough. People have brains and geeks are notorious for using them, even if for frivolous purposes.

You can have a very good story about racism and civil rights or whatever cause you want, without sounding like something out of a Bizarro Chick Tract. There are plenty of progressive stories out there, and generally everybody loves a good, well-written"asshole gets his comeuppance" tale. But if all you can do is pump out condescending, self-righteous, poorly-written and homogeneous drivel because you think you're on the "right side of history", don't complain that no one buys it.

And speaking of Captain America and nazis, the old comics also had this moment.

And it couldn't be any more obvious that the modern left would not agree with this at all.

 

[Red Hood]

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Then why are franchises like Marvel on life support when it comes to the comics?

Let's pick some of these apart.

X-Men was Stan Lee pretty much ripping off DC's Doom Patrol. It didn't really get good until the Claremont years, which did push the mutants as civil rights angle, but was helped by them actually being interesting characters that people that weren't there for the message could enjoy, Bub.

Captain America was a super soldier fighting literal uniformed nazis (and blackshirts, and Japs). He was not a Twitter LARPer witchhunting anyone to the left of Lenin.

Based on the Sequel trilogy, the Rebel Alliance's post-war government was a massive failure and the Empire's rise to power was aided by a man with magic powers manipulating both sides from behind the scenes. I'm getting really fucking sick of the "They're fighting against fascists, Antifa means Anti-Fascist, hence they're Antifa" line from that side. No, no, no. The Rebel Alliance is a rank and file military organization.

Deadpool is a shittier version of She-Hulk for edgelords. With that said, I think reading a political bent into Deadpool is as silly as the character himself.

Star Trek is about a future where we've moved beyond petty tribalism and thanks to replicators don't have to deal with scarcity. It's about solving philosophical and moral quandaries. Prior to the formation of the Federation humanity went through a horribly dark period. The sheer fucking hubris...

Superman and Supergirl offer valuable powers to their worlds- they give something and do not just immigrate in and start sucking on America's teat, and Superman is specifically implied to be such a good guy because humble, all-American farmers Ma and Pa Kent raised him right.

Stan Lee became a very rich man while screwing artists like Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko out of their fair share for their work. Apparently inequality is okay, as long as it's not motivated by bigotry.

This is just a list of "no true Scotsman" arguments. You're allowed to like a work despite not agreeing with its messaging. And "Geek Culture" is just a marketing tool to sell you shitty Funko pops. If you think all geek culture is far left, you might take a look at Baen Books sometime. A good portion of their works and authors are libertarian or right leaning (as might be expected of military science fiction). Some of the most influential works of "geek" fiction like Starship Troopers and The Lord of The Rings are founded on viewpoints that can vaguely be called "right wing".

Of course, given the surface-level examples listed I doubt the author has ever explored beyond these examples (or read an actual work of fiction for adults).

EDIT: How could I forget that Iron Man's nemesis, The Mandarin, is a Yellow Peril villain straight out of 1933?

 

[Corn Flakes]

If you think all geek culture is far left, you might take a look at Baen Books sometime. A good portion of their works and authors are libertarian or right leaning (as might be expected of military science fiction). Some of the most influential works of "geek" fiction like Starship Troopers and The Lord of The Rings are founded on viewpoints that can vaguely be called "right wing".

Of course, given the surface-level examples listed I doubt the author has ever explored beyond these examples (or read an actual work of fiction for adults).

That's the bit these people don't get. Yeah, nerds and geeks are pretty open to the idea of being excellent to one another.

But we also like our stylish fictional villains, our nuanced fictional heroes, our cool fictional guns, our fictional tanks, and our fictional wars. Star Trek is bitchin' and all, but there's a reason Star Wars makes so much more money, even with a bunch of shitty movies leading the charge: people like their action-packed stories full of non-diplomatic solutions to conflicts, where the heroes get knocked down but rise to the challenge and win the day.

 

[Private Pyle]

Has Sam even done anything other than 03 turtles? It seems like most of the 4kids crew with the exception of Pollock, Green, and maaaaaybe Griffith and Taylor just went under the radar

He moved to California and is still pretty active in voice acting circuit, nowadays being known for Phoenix Wright and Teddie from Persona 4. He also works as a voice director for various media, winning an award for his work on Danger & Eggs.

You're allowed to like a work despite not agreeing with its messaging.

This is what I’ve been saying and it still gets to me. Are they so out of touch with people that they think everyone uses pop culture media as a blueprint for life?
There is a stark contrast between a consumer and a “consoomer”.

 

[Witthel]

This is what I’ve been saying and it still gets to me. Are they so out of touch with people that they think everyone uses pop culture media as a blueprint for life?
There is a stark contrast between a consumer and a “consoomer”.

I seriously can't imagine only being able to enjoy a work of fiction or media if it passes some political purity test.

Like with people attacking Rowling and Notch for saying stuff that hurt trannies' fee-fees, like sheesh get a fucking life off of social media for a change.

 

[Trilby]

I seriously can't imagine only being able to enjoy a work of fiction or media if it passes some political purity test.

And that's the scary part in all this, nobody should be forced to like something based on that, that's literally communism.

Like with people attacking Rowling and Notch for saying stuff that hurt trannies' fee-fees, like sheesh get a fucking life off of social media for a change.

I wish.

 

[Corn Flakes]

This is what I’ve been saying and it still gets to me. Are they so out of touch with people that they think everyone uses pop culture media as a blueprint for life?
There is a stark contrast between a consumer and a “consoomer”.

Despite them insisting that troonerism isn't one, they firmly believe in social infections. If you come into contact with something, then you're contaminated by it.

So the only way to be sure that no one will be a dirty, right-wing, racist nazi fash is to make sure no one is exposed to the ideas they disapprove of.

EDIT: that's why they're so keen on guilt by association. You can't even talk to the untouchables, lest they curse you with their retrograde ways.

 

[Digger10]

I find it interesting that democrats seem to have lost their status as the "reasonable" party. It used to be that everyone ganged up on the republican party and even if someone didn't particularly care for the democrats, they didn't go out of their way to take potshots at them either. In the years following Trump's election it feels like I've been seeing more people willing to call out the extreme elements of the left and criticize their shortcomings. There's now a generational divide in the party, with the young members thinking the old guard are more concerned with playing politics than with getting things done and the older members thinking the younger members are naïve and reckless. I've read a couple of interesting articles talking about how conspiracy theories used to be associated with the right fringe, but ever since Trump's election more liberals have been willing to believe in them which suggests that they weren't better than republicans, they just weren't as scared.

The way I saw someone describe it is "The left are now acting like the right were during the Obama administration."

 

[Muh_Soggy_Knee]

The way I saw someone describe it is "The left is now acting like the right were during the Obama administration."

I guess the right-wingers had "ODS".

 

[Corn Flakes]

I guess the right-wingers had "ODS".

Considering the amount of plainly fallacious shit that was flung at Obama, while he did all sorts of shady things in the background that no one noticed because it was all drowned out by the reeeeeeeeeing... I'd say yeah. Looks like Presidential Derangement Syndrome may affect people regardless of their party affiliation, although it only flares up when it's The Other Guy getting elected.

 

[Digger10]

Considering the amount of plainly fallacious shit that was flung at Obama, while he did all sorts of shady things in the background that no one noticed because it was all drowned out by the reeeeeeeeeing... I'd say yeah. Looks like Presidential Derangement Syndrome may affect people regardless of their party affiliation, although it only flares up when it's The Other Guy getting elected.

Wikipedia claims that the term actually started with George Bush Jr, so you're probably right.