Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[BoxerShorts47]

@BoxerShorts47 since you still seem to be around, honest question, were you formerly Christian? Not going to give you grief if you were, some people get raised in bible beater homes and renounce it out of disgust, couldn't blame you if that was the case, but I'd seriously like to know what spurred your intense hate of Christianity.

I went to church a few times when I was a kid (mostly for funerals) but I wasn't raised religious. The reason I hate Christians is because I've spoken with you people and I see weakness and cowardice. You refuse to fight for what is right and when push comes to shove you say, "well who cares, keys to the Kingdom of Heaven." Getting the keys to the kingdom of heaven is pure cope for the weakest in the society, the people that fear uncertainty and fear death. I hate Christians because you lack MORAL character.

 

[SIGSEGV]

I went to church a few times when I was a kid (mostly for funerals) but I wasn't raised religious. The reason I hate Christians is because I've spoken with you people and I see weakness and cowardice. You refuse to fight for what is right and when push comes to shove you say, "well who cares, keys to the Kingdom of Heaven." Getting the keys to the kingdom of heaven is pure cope for the weakest in the society, the people that fear uncertainty and fear death. I hate Christians because you lack MORAL character.

Don't you lecture us on morality, pedophile.

 

[Overcast]

I went to church a few times when I was a kid (mostly for funerals) but I wasn't raised religious. The reason I hate Christians is because I've spoken with you people and I see weakness and cowardice. You refuse to fight for what is right and when push comes to shove you say, "well who cares, keys to the Kingdom of Heaven." Getting the keys to the kingdom of heaven is pure cope for the weakest in the society, the people that fear uncertainty and fear death. I hate Christians because you lack MORAL character.

Can you really blame people just trying to live their lives and not worry too much about what's going on in the world? It's not healthy to get caught up in things you can't control.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Can you really blame people just trying to live their lives and not worry too much about what's going on in the world? It's not healthy to get caught up in things you can't control.

Yes, those people are cowards and those are the types of people that end up turning your nation into a 3rd world shit. The people without apathy or nihilism are the ones who fight what is wrong and ultimately create a high quality society.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

I went to church a few times when I was a kid (mostly for funerals) but I wasn't raised religious. The reason I hate Christians is because I've spoken with you people and I see weakness and cowardice. You refuse to fight for what is right and when push comes to shove you say, "well who cares, keys to the Kingdom of Heaven." Getting the keys to the kingdom of heaven is pure cope for the weakest in the society, the people that fear uncertainty and fear death. I hate Christians because you lack MORAL character.

You're one of the most unlikeable faggots to ever post here.

 

[Begemot]

Yes, those people are cowards and those are the types of people that end up turning your nation into a 3rd world shit. The people without apathy or nihilism are the ones who fight what is wrong and ultimately create a high quality society.

So you want to run a white ethnostate in the U.S that somehow excludes the religious right. Would they get their own theocratic state?

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

I went to church a few times when I was a kid (mostly for funerals) but I wasn't raised religious. The reason I hate Christians is because I've spoken with you people and I see weakness and cowardice. You refuse to fight for what is right and when push comes to shove you say, "well who cares, keys to the Kingdom of Heaven." Getting the keys to the kingdom of heaven is pure cope for the weakest in the society, the people that fear uncertainty and fear death. I hate Christians because you lack MORAL character.

Compassion is not the same as weakness. I understand that you probably think "Nuance" is a trendy bath house for solitary gentlemen and "Subtlety" a guide to discreetly cottaging but try to process this: some people truly believe that in doing harm to others, you harm both them and you and therefore do their best to not cause harm. It's not my personal take but I can appreciate it for what it is. You are not the sole arbiter of what constitutes "moral". In point of fact, most of what you advocate for, here, is considered wildly immoral by the huge majority of society at large.

Also, maybe focus on putting your dick in something more appropriate than children, like a woodchipper, for example.

EDIT: spelling

 

[Overcast]

Yes, those people are cowards and those are the types of people that end up turning your nation into a 3rd world shit. The people without apathy or nihilism are the ones who fight what is wrong and ultimately create a high quality society.

I don't think marrying off little girls is fighting what is wrong dude.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

A racist pedophile welfare leech wants to lecture us on morality lmao

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

I don't think marrying off little girls is fighting what is wrong dude.

I think he is an equal opportunities pedo and would be happy to fuck 12 year old boys too.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I don't think marrying off little girls is fighting what is wrong dude.

that might happen but that isn't the primary goal. primary goal is to allow relationships that are more likely to lead to marriage (14-1 with (18-22). These relationships are fairly common i.e. normal hence why many people violate the age of consent laws. Do admit that many people violate age of consent regularly in America because they fundamentally don't view these laws as moral? Very similar to the weed decriminalization issue.

@BoxerShorts47 since you still seem to be around, honest question, were you formerly Christian? Not going to give you grief if you were, some people get raised in bible beater homes and renounce it out of disgust, couldn't blame you if that was the case, but I'd seriously like to know what spurred your intense hate of Christianity.

Cont. While I might use some New Atheism attacks against Christianity, my arguments against Christianity are uniquely my own.

1. Christianity is a deal with the lord devil. Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and receive the keys to the kingdom of heaven in the afterlife. Yes or no. Is this fundamentally the message of Christianity? Ultimately Christianity is about taking away your fear of death. Not about making you better in the real world; sola fide.

2. The Bible is contradictory. It's not clear which parts of the Old Testament must be followed and the new Testament is contradictory. Biblical Scholars are no different from Lawyers. They interpret the document to backwards rationalize the outcome they want.

3. All the Christians that fought in the 1st culture war (tried to conflate Christian with Morality) became televangelist grifters more obsessed with Jesus is muh savior than solving real problems like whore culture.

These are my arguments against Christianity. This thread is 190 pages, about ~1 week time. This isn't even 1% of the time I've spent arguing with people on the internet. I've have a lot of experiencing arguing with everyone: SJWs, center-left. libertarians, neo-nazis, christucks. My experience has been net negative with Christians.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

that might happen but that isn't the primary goal. primary goal is to allow relationships that are more likely to lead to marriage (14-1 with (18-22). These relationships are fairly common i.e. normal hence why many people violate the age of consent laws. Do admit that many people violate age of consent regularly in America because they fundamentally don't view these laws as moral? Very similar to the weed decriminalization issue.



Cont. While I might use some New Atheism attacks against Christianity, my arguments against Christianity are uniquely my own.

1. Christianity is a deal with the lord devil. Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and receive the keys to the kingdom of heaven in the afterlife. Yes or no. Is this fundamentally the message of Christianity? Ultimately Christianity is about taking away your fear of death. Not about making you better in the real world; sola fide.

2. The Bible is contradictory. It's not clear which parts of the Old Testament must be followed and the new Testament is contradictory. Biblical Scholars are no different from Lawyers. They interpret the document to backwards rationalize the outcome they want.

3. All the Christians that fought in the 1st culture war (tried to conflate Christian with Morality) became televangelist grifters more obsessed with Jesus is muh savior than solving real problems like whore culture.

These are my arguments against Christianity. This thread is 190 pages, about ~1 week time. This isn't even 1% of the time I've spent arguing with people on the internet. I've have a lot of experiencing arguing with everyone: SJWs, center-left. libertarians, neo-nazis, christucks. My experience has been net negative with Christians.

Everyone of those groups would report a negative experience with you. Everyone hates you: you have turned the horseshoe into a perfect circle of disgust.

 

[Draza]

@BoxerShorts47 are you planning to get a job in the future?

 

[GethN7]

Cont. While I might use some New Atheism attacks against Christianity, my arguments against Christianity are uniquely my own.

1. Christianity is a deal with the lord devil. Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and receive the keys to the kingdom of heaven in the afterlife. Yes or no. Is this fundamentally the message of Christianity? Ultimately Christianity is about taking away your fear of death. Not about making you better in the real world; sola fide.

2. The Bible is contradictory. It's not clear which parts of the Old Testament must be followed and the new Testament is contradictory. Biblical Scholars are no different from Lawyers. They interpret the document to backwards rationalize the outcome they want.

3. All the Christians that fought in the 1st culture war (tried to conflate Christian with Morality) became televangelist grifters more obsessed with Jesus is muh savior than solving real problems like whore culture.

These are my arguments against Christianity. This thread is 190 pages, about ~1 week time. This isn't even 1% of the time I've spent arguing with people on the internet. I've have a lot of experiencing arguing with everyone: SJWs, center-left. libertarians, neo-nazis, christucks. My experience has been net negative with Christians.

1. Half correct. Yes, we Christian expect a better life beyond this one, but we are commanded to act as best we can for ourselves and our fellow man in gratitude for that better life beyond this one. We do expect better than this world, but we are supposed to make good use of our time here as well.

2. The Jewish specific parts were obviated with Jesus' sacrifice, following them anyway effectively amounts to optional extra credit for the Gentiles. Otherwise, Christians build off whatever was NOT repudiated by the new covenant established by Jesus and refined by Paul. All the universal moral laws that would apply equally (i.e. - The Ten Commandments) to Jews and Gentiles are still in effect.

3. Fair enough, said hypocrites gall me too, but cursing all believers for those that embarrass the group is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Cont. While I might use some New Atheism attacks against Christianity, my arguments against Christianity are uniquely my own.

I'mma stop you there, champ. NOTHING you've presented in this thread is unique to you. Not one bit of it. I would say that you're "standing on the shoulders of giants" but honestly, your source material is for/from mental midgets.

2. The Bible is contradictory. It's not clear which parts of the Old Testament must be followed and the new Testament is contradictory. Biblical Scholars are no different from Lawyers. They interpret the document to backwards rationalize the outcome they want.

You don't see any irony in you using the "backwards rationalisation" argument, no? Cool, crack on.

3. All the Christians that fought in the 1st culture war (tried to conflate Christian with Morality) became televangelist grifters more obsessed with Jesus is muh savior than solving real problems like whore culture.

All the white nationalists who tried to proselytise in online fora became jobless pedophiles more obsessed with teen poon and race purity than actually fixing societal issues.
Does that seem like a wild, sweeping generalisation that could be considered disingenuous and distasteful?

 

[Stardust]

This guy calls us weak and cowardly, but he won't post a thumb or voice clip. Either his mom said no to buying him a camera, or he is a frightened non-white.

He is not on the front lines, instead typing furiously like his broken grammar is more stunning and brave than, say, occupying government property or picketing outside legal facilities. I'd add writing to lawmakers, but Ol' Boxy's literary talent, or lack thereof, makes this impossible to recommend.

For a 145+ IQ, you're pretty stupid not to realize, by posting a provable image of your thumb, you would win something. If you are indeed white, those calling you a 'bitch-ass Filipino' would only be half right.

 

[snailslime]

Yes, those people are cowards and those are the types of people that end up turning your nation into a 3rd world shit. The people without apathy or nihilism are the ones who fight what is wrong and ultimately create a high quality society.

Please post more just so I can watch your reaction score tank in real time

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

For a 145+ IQ, you're pretty stupid not to realize, by posting a provable image of your thumb, you would win something. If you are indeed white, those calling you a 'bitch-ass Filipino' would only be half right.

He's the type of person who would see that as a concession to his doubters, rather than his own bona fides and therefore, is incapable of doing it. We know how he feels about "weakness", so capitulating to our demands for thumb/voice/face dox would be beyond the pale for him.

 

[Foghot]

@BoxerShorts47 Why exactly are you fighting randoms on an internet forum?

Considering the time you probably spent on the internet, you should've realized that honor and e-points on the internet is meaningless and so is shitting lightyears of rage on an internet forum, right?

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

@BoxerShorts47 Why exactly are you fighting randoms on an internet forum?

Considering the time you probably spent on the internet, you should've realized that honor and e-points on the internet is meaningless and so is shitting lightyears of rage on an internet forum, right?

You don't understand, man; he has 100 tabs open and is using 18GB of RAM so we should probably take him, like, seriously, or something. Really, we should be thanking him for the opportunity to be the oilstone that sharpens his devastating debate skills. Remember us when you get to the top, @BoxerShorts47 , eh?