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"A bunch of shitty socialist writers destroyed Internet Archive's e-book sharing program in hopes it will get people to buy their shitty books." Or something like that. They deserve to have this hung around their necks and to be remembered for it.
I would say that Chuck and the authors who joined him on his campaign shoulder a fair amount of the possibility since they were the ones who first called all of this to attention and some of them may have been direct instigators by complaining to the publishers.Some ArsTechnica comments said the same thing, that legally the "free library" was a dumbass stunt. There was also some rational discussion over on their article on this. While there's some polarizing comments, there's people who think that both should just work it out and adapt to the new changing reality of digital ebooks.
Despite what some are saying on Twitter, Chuck didn't sue them. A few big publishers sued them.
I believe the Mormon streaming service Clean Flicks, that rents out censored versions of movies (although it also has uncensored versions) does the same thing. Several years ago I was getting ads for it where they basically gave a lecture on the whole process, which was actually kind of interesting.EDIT: I'm fucking exceptional, apparently the beef was over Internet Archive removing the restrictions that made it so that only one person could access a book at a given time. The rest of my post still stands.
According to this blog post by the Internet Archive they were using a "controlled digital lending" system that other libraries use to legally lend out digital copies of physical books. It's basically crazy DRM designed so that each digital copy of a book can only be read by one person at a time, just like a physical library. If a library wants to check out multiple digital copies of a book at a time then they need to legally own/purchase multiple copies of it.
I'm sure there are ways to bypass the DRM to create illegal copies of the book, but that's true for physical library books as well. It might be easier to runsteal_books.exe
than it is to sit in front of a copier/scanner trying to copy an entire book two pages at a time, but aside from that there's really no difference between lending out a single copy of a physical book and a single copy of a digital book. As I mentioned this is a completely legal system that physical libraries have been using for years, not some janky under the table Pirate Bay shit where they're handing out infinite DRM-free PDF copies of a book without any oversight.
Basically the issue is that dumb fucking boomers who don't understand technology are assuming that a completely legal system of DRM-enforced digital book lending is piracy when it actually isn't. It's a system that was designed to bring physical libraries into the digital age and tons of real libraries are already using it. Authors and publishers aren't being cheated out of sales, each digital copy of a book needs to be legally owned and can only be checked out to one person at a time.
tl;dr - It's legal because it uses a DRM system that works just like a physical library (one legally owned book = one reader at a time). Fuck the boomers, kill them all. Also check out your local library and see if they offer digital lending, it's based and literacypilled.
Well a lot of the books were public domain, and some of the books that authors were throwing a temper tantrum about weren't even uploaded, but they doubled down anyway. But more than anything it's the absolute hypocrisy of people who constantly complain on Twitter about how capitalism is bad and this or that service should be free throwing a shitfit when they have to deal with the same thing musicians have been for decades.
As others have pointed out, when it comes to the arts, we're basically in a mass patronage system right now, not because of some planned ideological support for piracy, but due to the near impossibility of properly enforcing copyright laws with the technology that exists. People pay for the stuff they like well enough to support the creator. In that regard, if you actually make work people love, then more exposure will help you because more people will want to patron you. If you make work that turns people off then it will hurt you because people who get exposed to your works won't buy them based on something arbitrary like cool cover art or being official fanfiction for an extremely popular franchise. But that's all academic because poor Cuck's books only got 12 views. People don't even want to read his plot blurbs.
I edited "shitty work" to "work that turns people off" because I don't want to equate quality too heavily popularity. Especially considering how well Cuck's Star Wars books sold.
Whenever I see that you've replied to this thread Heatboss, a part of my soul prepares to jump off a high building
Might as well just shut down the whole internet, apparently having things easily accessible and free for the masses is a crime.View attachment 1370155
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Internet Archive Will End Its Program for Free E-Books
The nonprofit has said its National Emergency Library was a public service to people unable to access libraries during the pandemic, but publishers and authors accused it of theft.www.nytimes.com
Sure would be a shame if everyone just started posting links to free copies of Cuck's godawful books everywhere. Not so people could read them (because no one would ever want to) but just to make him shit himself in anger.
Props to Cuck for helping to make the internet a worse place though, many cows try but few actually succeed at it.
Lesbian pirates in space. These people think they're so unique and quirky but they just draw from the same pool of a dozen concepts and stick them together like one of those headline generator websites.I took a look at some of the profiles who were supporting Chuck in his pinned tweet, and they're the exact kind of person you'd suspect.
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Internet Archive Will End Its Program for Free E-Books
The nonprofit has said its National Emergency Library was a public service to people unable to access libraries during the pandemic, but publishers and authors accused it of theft.www.nytimes.com
Sure would be a shame if everyone just started posting links to free copies of Cuck's godawful books everywhere. Not so people could read them (because no one would ever want to) but just to make him shit himself in anger.
Props to Cuck for helping to make the internet a worse place though, many cows try but few actually succeed at it.
fucking Hampture writings get more views, btfoHe got exactly 11 views
I hope he chokes and dies on the three dollars of compensation he's missing out on.
I hope he rams a rusty screwdriver up his ass.
Imagine being such a pathetic fucker that you not only shut down a free internet library which happened to host your barely publishable books but also start crying about it because no one likes you for it. Truly pathetic.Chuck is officially entering spergout mode.
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how isn't this "emergency library" just piracy though? like someone explain to me the legal counter argument because there's nothing in the times article and this seems like an obvious call for the court. also how is wendig involved? times article doesn't mention him.
Then they lifted it because of the lockdowns, libraries were for it, and publishers or hack authors like Chuck Wendig were mad.
and specifically this:
"As others have pointed out, when it comes to the arts, we're basically in a mass patronage system right now, not because of some planned ideological support for piracy, but due to the near impossibility of properly enforcing copyright laws with the technology that exists. People pay for the stuff they like well enough to support the creator."
Sorry but the "arts" exist also in the form of painting and sculpture for instance and not everything is copyable and even for copyable things you can't reproduce the feeling of e.g. reading a 200-y.o. book knowing the book you have in your hands went through 2 world wars etc. while reading it in ebook form.
If you mean by "arts" YT videos etc. maybe I can see your point. But copyright is certainly "enforceable" (see DMCA takedown notices) and it's not "nearly impossible" to do it.
A TV series - yes, that can be reproduced and then watched again in a television without making it very different from the original and also a DVD can be downloaded and watched but a 35 mm film in a cinema is a different thing from watching it at home sitting on a couch.
But imho "arts" is much more than "DVDs".
He'a fool but anyway, are people talking about him? yes. In a while they'll forget why. Then they will see 20 random books in a shop and among those 20 books his name will sound familiar, they don't remember why but let's buy one, we heard about it. It works, it's called advertising. Then $. Mission accomplished.
I certainly wasn't saying that physical copies of books don't matter, fellas. I was talking more about how the monetary reward system works for books, movies, music, etc (obviously not certain types of art like statues).An admitted Luddite perspective on books:
Paper books are inexpensive. They are extra inexpensive used. They retain full functionality used. You can drop them in the bath and a night on the radiator will solve that. You can get food, suncream, sand, all sorts of shit on them and they remain completely functional. They are light and easily transported. They remain functional when scratched, drawn on, chewed lightly by pet. No one will mug you for a book. Their content can not be altered, “cancelled”, or “withdrawn due to sensitivity concerns”. They are completely DRM free. Once you own a book, you own it for life. You can lend the book easily and for free to as many people as you like, and no one can do shit about it. You can resell or give them away easily. You can put them in the post with minimal concerns about theft or damage. You do not need a EULA to operate a paper book. If you are no better than an animal, you can annotate the text easily. You can buy them used. In fact, many people like them better used. (It’s the smell.) They make a thoughtful gift that people will often keep for decades. They will never be subjected to planned obsolescence. They are a form of knowledge that can never be memory holed or taken from you except by physical seizure of your assets. In a time when many creative works are reedited or simply disappeared due to cultural fluctuations, paper books are a mass market, readily available backstop against that remaking of culture and history.
There is a reason why cultural revolutions burn books, and why the well read are first against the wall. Knowledge is power, whatever knowledge it is. A corporation half a world away from you can remotely burn all your ebooks as and when it wants to. Orwell’s Bureau no longer has to manually doctor past publications that say the “wrong thing”: that too is done remotely without your prior knowledge and consent.
Buy books. We really will miss them if ever they are gone.