The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Why even bother making a review at that point: the redactions made this incomprehensible to read.

"So the game starts with [REDACTED], and then he [REDACTED]. Then the game [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED], then you get [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED], and the game finally [REDACTED] and that's the end of The Last of Us Part II. Overall a uniquely inspiring, yet extremely [REDACTED] [REDACTED]."

Probably because they're pissed off at the game enough to want to show their readers just how much they can't talk about. I'd wager they'll unredact it when whatever embargo is in place is lifted. Plus I'd wager that end note:

When I’d hear the yelp of a dog or an enemy cry out someone’s name, I found myself wondering repeatedly if TLOU2 could be completed as a ‘pacifist’, sneaking around enemies and avoiding combat wherever possible. I wondered if this game, which so happily rope-a-doped players with ███ █████ ████ █████ █ ████████████████, was trying to go full Kojima on me.
Whether I could simply opt-out of the violence.

I never attempted it. The Last of Us Part II asks us to reflect on ourselves in relation to violence in video games and I did. What I discovered is that I love it.

is a low key "fuck you" to Druckman given the game's apparent intent to make you feel bad about the violence.

 

[BeboRefugee]

Apparently, people are calling us "mad" about all the perfect scores:

The Last of us 2 Haters are MAD Reviews call the game a MASTERPIECE

The Last of us 2 Haters are mad reviews call the game a MASTERPIECE! The Last of us 2 has gotten so much hate from haters, its incredible the game still preo...

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One even attempted to "satirize" negative reviews of the game:

The Last of Us Part II Review: A Disgraceful Mess (SATIRE)

Naughty Dog's The Last of Us Part II is almost here, and for those of you who are certain you're going to hate it, this (spoiler free) review is for you. For...

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But... everybody in this thread KNEW the game was gonna get a perfect Metacritic aggregate.
Even before the leaks. The reviewer class loved the first game, and TLOU2 was gonna be more of that. This wasn't even touching Sony's purchasing power. What surprised me was how the conventional Woke outlets actually gave some jabs in their reviews. I agree with whichever poster said it was because they weren't bribed because Sony was busy trying to pay off normie outlets and took progressive support for granted.
Yeah, newsflash Druckmann, making a flat-chested buff woman the irredeemable villain is a bad move when you're banking on danger-hairs for good press. These people think a single negative depiction of a minority, or a non-subverted trope is enough to undo decades of social progress, so the only thing worse than having a (possibly trans) muscly woman be the villain is spending half the gaming experience trying to Stockholm Syndrome the audience into sympathising with her.
The audience generally hate it when sequels refocus to a totally different character. It needs justification.
Gamers hated it when Kojima did this fake-out with Raiden, and he was a sexy twunk.
Gamers came round to it when Bungie did it with The Arbiter, but it was at least essential to the plot.
Here? Naughty Dog are nakedly engaging in false advertising, and unlike the above two, I really don't understand why THIS is the narrative route they thought was optimal to enhance their world.

 

[Marissa Moira]

He wrote this as his own personal vanity product to shit on the audience. That's all this game is. Its utter garbage equivalent to a student film given a AAA budget. Fuck Sony. Good job purging your weeb audience for this you cunts. Guess what, Persona 4 is on Steam and on the top sellers. You're never getting them back again. Japanese game devs for the weebs are gone eternally for shit like this. You chose poorly, motherfuckers.

They're never getting them back because they never actually left. Everything from Final Fantasy, to Trails of Mana, to Falcom's offerings, to even Dragon Quest sold the most in the west on PS4. Sony is even backing the Nier Remaster with advertising and promotion money, and Falcom went all in awhile back with Sony and any and all Falcom port costs come out of NISA's pocket and not theirs(all other non-playstation sales still make up 10% of their profit). There's also stuff like Vanillaware's games.

This whole thing is isolated from any type of weeb fallout because we weren't going to play it to begin with, TLOU isn't in leu of getting a Japanese game(i.e. what Capcom originally did to Dragon's Dogma and saying it's the reason why the west wasn't getting Monster Hunter). Now they start doing stuff to Legend of Heroes, Ys, Utawererumono, andf the like THEN there are issues. I mean persona 5 Royal was just released a few months before mind you it didn't do horribly. Final Fantasy 7 is still the most downloaded game on PSN months after it's release.

The only series that has a 50/50 Split is Monster Hunter where half the sales are on PC and half are on playstation.

 

[ExciteDyke]

Apparently, people are calling us "mad" about all the perfect scores:

The Last of us 2 Haters are MAD Reviews call the game a MASTERPIECE

The Last of us 2 Haters are mad reviews call the game a MASTERPIECE! The Last of us 2 has gotten so much hate from haters, its incredible the game still preo...

www.youtube.com

One even attempted to "satirize" negative reviews of the game:

The Last of Us Part II Review: A Disgraceful Mess (SATIRE)

Naughty Dog's The Last of Us Part II is almost here, and for those of you who are certain you're going to hate it, this (spoiler free) review is for you. For...

www.youtube.com

The commenters fantasizing about "da h8ters" killing themselves over game reviews definitely are the kind of sane individuals I expected to gravitate towards such an edgy movie.

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Fucking thing isn't even out yet to the public and TLOU2 fans already prove themselves to be more pretentious and full of themselves than TOOL fans.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I find it hilarious how the main character of A Boy and His Dog is more likeable than Abby and Ellie in this shit pile. A fucking serial rapist and murderer is more likeable than your main characters, how do you fuck up that bad?

I would play A Boy And His Dog videogame

 

[Salubrious]

I just watched the 3 hour video while I played Madden and it's every bit as @Clem Fandango described. Parts of the video that interested me.

Back to Ellie and Dina. More boring 'feels' cutscene. They're talking about how they got various wounds, and Ellie decides to tell Dina that she's immune, but Dina doesn't believe her.

You left out the part where Jesse interrupted them to tell them Joel was missing. I mention it because I think until the epilogue that it is his last appearence in the game. Dina called out for him when she found Ellie after she got her ass kicked, but he didn't appear in the cutscene nor was he anywhere in the aftermath before they left for Seattle.

As you (I think) said, Jesse's only role in this game is to have a reason why the lesbian/bisexual woman is pregnant. That's it.

Cut to depressed-looking Ellie in her room. Tommy turns out to try and talk her out of a revenge mission to Seattle. He makes some reasonable points like "How do we know they're from Seattle? Maybe they stole those jackets", and "You have no idea about how many people there are and how armed they are" but Ellie's just like WHATEVER. Such a great character.

Pargon of wisdom Ron White once said "I don't know how many people it would take to kick my ass, but I know how many they're going to use."

I counted 7 people in the mansion cutscene. If they didn't leave their base undefended (who knows in this game?), there would be more at the base. Ellie's plan is just to charge in and Solid Snake at least 7 people.

Not one mention of "Joel would have wanted you to live, not go on a suicide mission for him!" You know, the entire point of the ending of the first game where Joel didn't let Ellie sacrifice herself.

By the way, Joel and Ellie never talked (in this game so far) about what happened at the end of that game. The only mention of it was Joel to Tommy. So there was no closure there either.

Back downstairs and Maria is reading a note from Tommy. He went off on his own and says not to let Ellie come after her. Maria's all like, "I would tell you not to go but I know you better. I told the stables to let you leave with your horse". Fucking hell this Maria is cucked. She has no authority. How did she get to be in charge? In reality she would have been usurped by someone who could keep people in line long ago.

You missed my favorite part.

The second to last sentence from Maria was "do me a favor and bring my dumbass husband home in one piece please?"

Wait. Maria and Tommy are married? Maria is Joel's sister-in-law? Was this mentioned in the first game (if so I apologize since I never played it)? It certainly wasn't mentioned here unless I missed it. Maria and Tommy have never been in the same room at the same time. That bit of "character development" came out of nowhere.

Also, like Jesse, I'm pretty sure Maria is out of this game until the epilogue too.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I just watched the 3 hour video while I played Madden and it's every bit as @Clem Fandango described. Parts of the video that interested me.



You left out the part where Jesse interrupted them to tell them Joel was missing. I mention it because I think until the epilogue that it is his last appearence in the game. Dina called out for him when she found Ellie after she got her ass kicked, but he didn't appear in the cutscene nor was he anywhere in the aftermath before they left for Seattle.

As you (I think) said, Jesse's only role in this game is to have a reason why the lesbian/bisexual woman is pregnant. That's it.



Pargon of wisdom Ron White once said "I don't know how many people it would take to kick my ass, but I know how many they're going to use."

I counted 7 people in the mansion cutscene. If they didn't leave their base undefended (who knows in this game?), there would be more at the base. Ellie's plan is just to charge in and Solid Snake at least 7 people.

Not one mention of "Joel would have wanted you to live, not go on a suicide mission for him!" You know, the entire point of the ending of the first game where Joel didn't let Ellie sacrifice herself.

By the way, Joel and Ellie never talked (in this game so far) about what happened at the end of that game. The only mention of it was Joel to Tommy. So there was no closure there either.



You missed my favorite part.

The second to last sentence from Maria was "do me a favor and bring my dumbass husband home in one piece please?"

Wait. Maria and Tommy are married? Maria is Joel's sister-in-law? Was this mentioned in the first game (if so I apologize since I never played it)? It certainly wasn't mentioned here unless I missed it. Maria and Tommy have never been in the same room at the same time. That bit of "character development" came out of nowhere.

Also, like Jesse, I'm pretty sure Maria is out of this game until the epilogue too.

I had to look back into the original, the marriage bit stems from the first game after the dam when Joel and Tommy talk and Tommy mentions "settling down". That's the only reference to the marriage, it's very loosely implied because she's the only woman character(who's not a generic NPC) during the events. Everything else happens entirely offscreen and it's almost like a throw away line in the original.

 

[Tard]

commenters fantasizing about "da h8ters" killing themselves over game reviews

Yeah, cause mocking a laughably bad game who's made by the epitome of "ASK ME WHAT IT MEANS" is being butthurt
But wishing death upon someone who doesn't like your game totally isnt

 

[Keystone]

The commenters fantasizing about "da h8ters" killing themselves over game reviews definitely are the kind of sane individuals I expected to gravitate towards such an edgy movie.
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Fucking thing isn't even out yet to the public and TLOU2 fans already prove themselves to be more pretentious and full of themselves than TOOL fans.

Of course it's gonna "win" GOTY. Those award shows are just as bought and paid for as the reviews are. They're exactly like the Hollywood award shows in that regard.

As far as actual gamers are concerned, Doom Eternal or maybe Cyberpunk are going to be 2020's Game of The Year. Pretentious fart huffers and paid shills will say it's TLOU2. Again just like Hollywood and movies where the opinion of actual audiences and reviewers are always galaxies apart.

 

[Salubrious]

By the way, the last time we see Abby before Ellie goes on her revenge quest, she's literally upset that she doesn't have time to torture Joel more and the leader Owen just tells her to finish him off before the rest of the town catches them. That's our secondary protagonist.

I'm about 95% certain Abby will overthrow Owen at some point.

In my personal opinion, I don't think Abby is trans; I just think her character model is messed up.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Of course it's gonna "win" GOTY. Those award shows are just as bought and paid for as the reviews are. They're exactly like the Hollywood award shows in that regard.

The first one won "OVER 100 Game of the Year awards" Game of the year is entirely meaningless.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Of course it's gonna "win" GOTY. Those award shows are just as bought and paid for as the reviews are. They're exactly like the Hollywood award shows in that regard.

I stopped caring about GOTYs once the number started getting really retarded.

Like the Batman Cover is exhibit A and there's something like winning over 800 GOTY awards. I think TLOU 1 Remastered has something like over 150 GOTY awards mentioned on the cover.

Like Holy Fuck, the Oscars used to have some prestige but even that is lost now because people are aware. At this point who the fuck cares about GOTY awards just give me a functioning game that doesn't need weeks of fucking patches. That's a worthwhile achivement.

 

[Optimus Prime]

In my personal opinion, I don't think Abby is trans; I just think her character model is messed up.

I honestly think everybody already knew this, but because her character model is so goddamn wrong looking that it spured the comments about her possibly being trans. And because they're trying to hide the fact this character fucking exists, nothing could be said to disprove it.

Honestly I can't wait for the inevitable mod where she gets completely obliterated by Senator Armstrong just showing up and going Would You Kindly on her with a nanomachine-empowered golf club.

 

[Salubrious]

And because they're trying to hide the fact this character fucking exists, nothing could be said to disprove it.

Which is funny because when the leaks came out, even they said you play as Abby in the second half of the game. No, you play as Abby THIRTY MINUTES into the game. In that 3 hour video, the title card is 15 minutes in, and then Abby's cutscene starts 13 minutes later.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Apparently they may be planning a Book or Comic book to explain the time skip or some bullshit.

This shit never works out well. I hope the TV series gets canceled or atleast handed off to someone else, because holy fuck that's all we need is multipedia clusterfuck to get the "REAL" whole story like Final Fantasy 15.

The only interesting bit about TLOU was Joel and Ellie, everything else was not worth expanding on. This isn't LOTR where you had vast swaths of interesting characters with actual world building to back it up. Even so The Simarillion was a chore to get through

 

[Optimus Prime]

Which is funny because when the leaks came out, even they said you play as Abby in the second half of the game. No, you play as Abby THIRTY MINUTES into the game. In that 3 hour video, the title card is 15 minutes in, and then Abby's cutscene starts 13 minutes later.

Yeah, I'm almost certain that my earlier statement about this being basically Cuckman's own violence-fettish fanfiction shoved into a popular franchise was accurate.

Apparently they may be planning a Book or Comic book to explain the time skip or some bullshit.

This shit never works out well. I hope the TV series gets canceled or atleast handed off to someone else, because holy fuck that's all we need is multipedia clusterfuck to get the "REAL" whole story like Final Fantasy 15.

Oh lol that's going to be a real shitshow, not in the least because I garuntee they didn't plan ANY of this crap out during the timeskip. It was purely so they could age up their little lesbian couple. And one of them ended up banging a dude anyway because unless that baby is a goddamn elephant (gestation period of roughly 2 years IIRC), she had to have gotten the D at some point in the relatively close present when TLOU2 starts.

 

[Marissa Moira]

You know what I'm personally hoping for?

They decide to make a CGI TLOU movie like those awful Resident Evil ones(not the awful live action the direct to video animated ones)

Just make this shitshow into a radioactive pit. Turn the poison up to 11.

At least Starship Trooper's legacy will be slightly less tarnished in comparison.

 

[Salubrious]

The more I watch these two cutscenes (because they're funny), the more funny they get.

1) How did Ellie knife that Mexican guy in the face? She came out with a gun drawn in both hands. He reaches for the gun and doesn't have a knife in his hand. They fall to the ground, and in one motion Ellie suddenly has a knife in her hands. She never had the chance to reach in her pockets for it because Mexican guy grabbed her by the wrists.

2) Do these people not know who Ellie is? Wasn't the entire point that she had the cure? They don't even ask her for her name, interrogate her, or anything. They just knock her out. And for reference, I was wrong and Abby did know Joel's last name. Strangely, nobody asked him what his last name was to confirm before they kneecapped him. They just assumed the town they knew he was in only had one Joel.

3) Remember when I said that you could have Abby as a tragic protagonist that didn't let her team know that Joel and Tommy saved her before they killed Joel? Well, they DO know that Joel and Tommy saved her since they saw them all getting chased by the zombies, and none of them even blinked. Hell, the ambushers set up an ambush by accident; they had no idea who Tommy and Joel were. Seriously, the attack on Joel starts 13 SECONDS after he says his name is Joel and Abby kneecaps him.

4) Why did they leave Ellie and Tommy alive? Why leave alive the only two witnesses other than "because we needed the game to happen?"


Also, Tommy tells Ellie that the Boulder town can't spare any men to help her in her quest for vengeance and she doesn't give a fuck. Even Ellie is shitty.

 

[Friend computer]

The commenters fantasizing about "da h8ters" killing themselves over game reviews definitely are the kind of sane individuals I expected to gravitate towards such an edgy movie.
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Fucking thing isn't even out yet to the public and TLOU2 fans already prove themselves to be more pretentious and full of themselves than TOOL fans.

Hmmm, leftists and projections, isnt there some what of a connection there, wonder how they would have reacted if it was bad reviews.

I wonder....

 

[Marissa Moira]

Hmmm, leftists and projections, isnt there some what of a connection there, wonder how they would have reacted if it was bad reviews.

I wonder....

The irony of ironies is that this game won't last a month in people's memories.

What you're witnessing is the birthing pains of an abomination that's going to be thrown in the trash


Ghosts got pushed up to July for the sole reason of ending TLOU. A Major studio would not be releasing two big budget games within a month of each other unless the intention is to have the latter bury the former.