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So is that Ron IV gnawing on the end of a lotion bottle?
The kid on camera is his cousin.
This is Ron IV
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So is that Ron IV gnawing on the end of a lotion bottle?
It's telling that the one Ph.D they got into the thread didn't dispute anything Ken said, but rather questioned if Ken was allowed to say what he did.It's pretty weird. It's like they all know Ron is an obviously fucked up, creepy dude who lies a lot. They don't think anyone who looks at this squirrelly weirdo can tell that? The question really isn't whether he's a psycho but just what kind.
He sure has their panties in a twist somehow. It's not magic to claim to have a master's degree in some shit and then opine on it in public, and for that matter, it doesn't even take a master's degree. It's not like anyone is obligated to believe anything he says or take him any more seriously than any other reasonably articulate person expressing an opinion.
It's not like randomly psychoanalyzing strangers carries any particularly great weight no matter who is doing it.
I don't need any particularly in depth analysis to see Ron Toye is a gibbering psycho, though. I'm amazed anyone can look at that guy and think he's normal in any way. He's a twitchy, weird, creepy little dude at best and that's even if you don't know he's a wife beating piece of shit who raised a son who says nigger all the time.
I mean, they had a viewpoint of the guy that he was a redeemed saint. But, unlike kiwis lawltwitter had their heads so far up their asses they couldnt see the truth. Now with ken coming in he has effectively shaken the tree.
They would see it as an escalation. I think this stopped being "a thing on the internet" and became personal for both sides. They can't be wrong on the internet because 10 years from now douchebags will be throwing this shit in their face on social media. They desperately need some kind of expert to validate their actions because they can't stand on their own.
I think it two parts.
1. Kiwi's are supposed to be basement dwelling incels who hate women. Ken apparently said just enough to show he has experience in the field so therefore cannot be a basement dwelling incel. And since he cannot be a basement dwelling incel, that must mean he is a legit human being whose opinions must be respected. Of course they fail at this.
2. LawTwitter is full of technocrats. They worship any jackass that can ramble off a list of technical terms until the opposition gives up and leaves. Ken flanked them with some psychiatry and no one on the Threadnaught could immediately ramble off a bunch of psych terms to refute him.
Also, it looks like they are more concerned about attacking Ken's personal credibility rather than address his analysis. That is why they were worried about finding a doctor who would say "that is unethical." I think they know that Ken is accurate enough that any doctor show the same evidence would agree with him
I'm sure they are trawling the internet for a psychiatrist with a podcast to help them.
Kind of like how lemwah was an expert.
You know, even if Ken does turn out to be an artful troll using big words to appear licensed, he would have brought so many laughs it wouldn't even matter.
The retard who says that no one wants Vic's dead and dismisses proof that says otherwise like a fucking pussy wants proof that Ken is really a therapist.
You would want that kind of proof that would only benefit you cunts to fuck over Ken Jennings's career.
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In NIFLA, Justice Thomas made short work of the “professional speech” exception to the First Amendment. He noted that not only has the Supreme Court never recognized such an exception, but that to do so could endanger the speech rights of professionals. He argued that “speech is not unprotected just because it is uttered by ‘professionals.’” For Thomas, the ability of professionals to speak candidly to their clients is crucial to maintaining the marketplace of ideas.
This is one of the rare cases of an actual ad hominem fallacy at work. If the guy is an idiot who is clearly talking nonsense, it should be easy enough to explain why without throwing a squalling tantrum about his qualifications, which don't even matter.
If Ken Jennings's opinion is so utterly worthless that it doesn't deserve to be taken seriously, why are they all making a huge fucking fuss about it? Because it's like I said earlier - all these idiots spent so much time painting a rosy image of Ron as a tragic character, yet it took only one therapist to tear that image down. The best part? Ken didn't even call Ron bad names; he just gave an insightful opinion. Now they're resorting to damage control on Ron and damage infliction on Ken.
Also, note the timing of their shenanigans: roughly a week before Vic's law firm allegedly files a response. They didn't do this two weeks ago or even last week, but they're doing it starting this week, roughly seven days before the next deadline. This is not only ad hominem fallacy, but also a premeditated smear tactic to cause distractions.
It's telling that the one Ph.D they got into the thread didn't dispute anything Ken said, but rather questioned if Ken was allowed to say what he did.
I'm not holding myself out as the final authority on this. But it is interesting how bent out of shape these people are getting over it. That tells me a bit about those people and their personality too.
You laugh but the Spednaught was started when one of the lead KV cucks on Twitter (Shannon McCormick IIRC) got sick of the legal opinions of Nick Rekieta (and to a lesser extant AnOminous) being used to bludgeon them daily so decided to send some out-of-context shit to some fat, bankrupt Twitter lawyer who shared it with LawTwitter. And then when Nick fired back and sent a swarm of ISWV at them, LawTwitter took it personally and embarked on an autistic jihad against Nick, Ty Beard, and anything tangentially related to ISWV.I'm sure they are trawling the internet for a psychiatrist with a podcast to help them.
McCormick was more of a weird middle ground between Amanda Winn Lee/D.C. Douglas and Stephanie Sheh/Cristina Vee/TFS TBQH. Felt like he fucked off the moment TUG started sperging out with his fake victimhood.You laugh but the Spednaught was started when one of the lead KV cucks on Twitter (Shannon McCormick IIRC) got sick of the legal opinions of Nick Rekieta (and to a lesser extant AnOminous) being used to bludgeon them daily so decided to send some out-of-context shit to some fat, bankrupt Twitter lawyer who shared it with LawTwitter. And then when Nick fired back and sent a swarm of ISWV at them, LawTwitter took it personally and embarked on an autistic jihad against Nick, Ty Beard, and anything tangentially related to ISWV.
Yeah, they'll try and do the same thing here, and I hope they can distract some dumb Twitter therapist/counselor like Jeffrey Guterman from his latest bizarre ravings on Donald Trump long enough to tweet VIC MAN BAD SOY MAN GOOD. But that sounds more like 2019 Weeb Wars lunacy and not the bland happenings of 2020 Weeb Wars.
The retard who says that no one wants Vic's dead and dismisses proof that says otherwise like a fucking pussy wants proof that Ken is really a therapist.
You would want that kind of proof that would only benefit you cunts to fuck over Ken Jennings's career.
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Honestly this is not too far off. Most people are good at reading people. It's part of how we function as a social animal and it's a survival mechanism too. You may not know the clinical terminology or how it functions on a deeper level, but you recognize something is up with the person you are seeing or interacting with.
I'm not holding myself out as the final authority on this. But it is interesting how bent out of shape these people are getting over it. That tells me a bit about those people and their personality too.
This is a big part of it in my opinion too. Ron has shown there is still quite a deficit in functioning to be able to say he has truly improved.
Again, my disclaimer, not a psychiatrist (cause they actually have to follow the Goldwater rule), but a master's level clinician. But I would agree with your observations here. They weren't even able to disprove me because the person they sought advice from was working under the assumption I fall under the Goldwater rule, which I do not. And there's nothing unethical by keeping my anonymity when people like these lawtwits want to result in my job being taken from me. Plus I have a 1A right too speak, with appropriate disclaimers to set the stage, but I can still speak about my experience and education on the subject, no different than what they have been doing for over a year. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
How dare you.
I've never seen a man more sexually in touch with an O2 tank in my life. Stop kink shaming and expert shaming.
I wish I could troll this artfully. I'm just very into my profession so I can speak to it easily. I can troll but my need for instant gratification on that with limited time means dragging something like this out for a troll would be antithetical to how I troll in general.
I've also referenced multiple scholarly articles on sociopathy and body language in making my assessments, I just never posted them here cause I didn't think anyone would want to read them. It was not just a "Wikipedia diagnosis". I can dig up my sources if necessary but I doubt it matters or would matter.
If anyone wants to link this article to these people, here's where I got most of my info for the breakdown for Ron why he couldn't sue me and why my diagnosis is ethical. I have stated and corrected people HERE multiple times when they call me a psychiatrist or psychologist, as I am neither. But I am a master's level therapist, which is extremely common for therapists. Even though I have not stated which organization I fall under for masters therapists, none of them strictly prohibit it. I'm well within my lane here. Also each of those sections of the different orgs ethical handbooks can be found separately if you want to fact check the article yourself.
Link: https://www.psychotherapynotes.com/ethically-its-fine-to-diagnose-donald-trump/
Also professional speech was ruled protected by SCOTUS in 2018 in the case NIFLA v. Becerra:
Since states have licensing requirements for so many jobs anymore, it would basically give the states a way to restrict speech by making EVERYTHING licensed, or specific jobs at least like mine.
Funny how lawyers are arguing I don't have 1A protections from the govt, which is literally who does my licensing, when the supreme court has within the last two years ruled I'm protected in my speech by the 1A for repercussions. You would think that they would know that when it took me only a few specific Google searches to find it...
Still not gonna dox myself.
I have nothing to add to this. You would make an interesting therapist. You can read people very well. I'm assuming it's the lawyer education and experience. BUT YOU NEED TO DOX YOURSELF TO PROVE IT MY GUY!
Also have nothing to add. I've only wanted Ron to recognize he has ongoing problems and to work on them, at a minimum. I may poke fun but name calling isn't necessary or beneficial for my intentions here anyway.
He probably didn't care much about it to be honest. But even if he did he probably wouldn't want to say anything for fear of these people going apeshit on him so he just addressed the ethics thing, which respectfully he got wrong as I'm not under the American Psychiatric Association so Goldwater rule doesn't apply.
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You laugh but the Spednaught was started when one of the lead KV cucks on Twitter (Shannon McCormick IIRC) got sick of the legal opinions of Nick Rekieta (and to a lesser extant AnOminous) being used to bludgeon them daily so decided to send some out-of-context shit to some fat, bankrupt Twitter lawyer who shared it with LawTwitter. And then when Nick fired back and sent a swarm of ISWV at them, LawTwitter took it personally and embarked on an autistic jihad against Nick, Ty Beard, and anything tangentially related to ISWV.
Yeah, they'll try and do the same thing here, and I hope they can distract some dumb Twitter therapist/counselor like Jeffrey Guterman from his latest bizarre ravings on Donald Trump long enough to tweet VIC MAN BAD SOY MAN GOOD. But that sounds more like 2019 Weeb Wars lunacy and not the bland happenings of 2020 Weeb Wars.
McCormick was more of a weird middle ground between Amanda Winn Lee/D.C. Douglas and Stephanie Sheh/Cristina Vee/TFS TBQH. Felt like he fucked off the moment TUG started sperging out with his fake victimhood.
None of them actually pay any attention to what was said. I think they are just strawmanning this because they don't understand what Ken's job is.
What if kink shaming is my kink?!Honestly this is not too far off. Most people are good at reading people. It's part of how we function as a social animal and it's a survival mechanism too. You may not know the clinical terminology or how it functions on a deeper level, but you recognize something is up with the person you are seeing or interacting with.
I'm not holding myself out as the final authority on this. But it is interesting how bent out of shape these people are getting over it. That tells me a bit about those people and their personality too.
This is a big part of it in my opinion too. Ron has shown there is still quite a deficit in functioning to be able to say he has truly improved.
Again, my disclaimer, not a psychiatrist (cause they actually have to follow the Goldwater rule), but a master's level clinician. But I would agree with your observations here. They weren't even able to disprove me because the person they sought advice from was working under the assumption I fall under the Goldwater rule, which I do not. And there's nothing unethical by keeping my anonymity when people like these lawtwits want to result in my job being taken from me. Plus I have a 1A right too speak, with appropriate disclaimers to set the stage, but I can still speak about my experience and education on the subject, no different than what they have been doing for over a year. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
How dare you.
I've never seen a man more sexually in touch with an O2 tank in my life. Stop kink shaming and expert shaming.
I wish I could troll this artfully. I'm just very into my profession so I can speak to it easily. I can troll but my need for instant gratification on that with limited time means dragging something like this out for a troll would be antithetical to how I troll in general.
I've also referenced multiple scholarly articles on sociopathy and body language in making my assessments, I just never posted them here cause I didn't think anyone would want to read them. It was not just a "Wikipedia diagnosis". I can dig up my sources if necessary but I doubt it matters or would matter.
If anyone wants to link this article to these people, here's where I got most of my info for the breakdown for Ron why he couldn't sue me and why my diagnosis is ethical. I have stated and corrected people HERE multiple times when they call me a psychiatrist or psychologist, as I am neither. But I am a master's level therapist, which is extremely common for therapists. Even though I have not stated which organization I fall under for masters therapists, none of them strictly prohibit it. I'm well within my lane here. Also each of those sections of the different orgs ethical handbooks can be found separately if you want to fact check the article yourself.
Link: https://www.psychotherapynotes.com/ethically-its-fine-to-diagnose-donald-trump/
Also professional speech was ruled protected by SCOTUS in 2018 in the case NIFLA v. Becerra:
Since states have licensing requirements for so many jobs anymore, it would basically give the states a way to restrict speech by making EVERYTHING licensed, or specific jobs at least like mine.
Funny how lawyers are arguing I don't have 1A protections from the govt, which is literally who does my licensing, when the supreme court has within the last two years ruled I'm protected in my speech by the 1A for repercussions. You would think that they would know that when it took me only a few specific Google searches to find it...
Still not gonna dox myself.
I have nothing to add to this. You would make an interesting therapist. You can read people very well. I'm assuming it's the lawyer education and experience. BUT YOU NEED TO DOX YOURSELF TO PROVE IT MY GUY!
Also have nothing to add. I've only wanted Ron to recognize he has ongoing problems and to work on them, at a minimum. I may poke fun but name calling isn't necessary or beneficial for my intentions here anyway.
He probably didn't care much about it to be honest. But even if he did he probably wouldn't want to say anything for fear of these people going apeshit on him so he just addressed the ethics thing, which respectfully he got wrong as I'm not under the American Psychiatric Association so Goldwater rule doesn't apply.
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Then kink-shame the people whose kink is being kink-shamed.What if kink shaming is my kink?!
If you werent so beautiful bender, id shit on your face.Then kink-shame the people whose kink is being kink-shamed.
His professional obligations would be to whoever his actual clients are. Otherwise he only has the same obligations as anyone else to a stranger, i.e. not to deliberately or negligently harm them such as by defamation.
Is there a male version of a karen? If so, these guys literally deserve the title.LawTwitter is trying to apply the "Goldwater" rule despite the fact it does not apply to Ken's job. Tewson doesn't understand why all jobs in the field don't have the same ethics tied to them. I think this is tripping all of them up, that even if they did find out who Ken was, they have no grounds for an ethics complaint.
Wouldn't stop them from trying.
I like to call them Kevins, but some call them "Dougs". A lot of names middle-aged whit guys usually have work, like Kevin, Doug, Greg, etc.Is there a male version of a karen? If so, these guys literally deserve the title.
I vote...Howard.Is there a male version of a karen? If so, these guys literally deserve the title.
RonIs there a male version of a karen? If so, these guys literally deserve the title.
LawTwitter is trying to apply the "Goldwater" rule despite the fact it does not apply to Ken's job. Tewson doesn't understand why all jobs in the field don't have the same ethics tied to them.
Homeowner's policy coverage often includes options like an umbrella policy that covers miscellaneous other torts. Usually these are intended for negligence torts, not willful torts, and while they can have very high limits, they're not just blank checks. They're actually going to look very closely at a defamation claim before just coughing up a quarter million. They are also going to tell you to shut the absolute fuck up while the case is pending.
And if you went on a voluminous, incredibly aggressive smear campaign right after getting such a policy you could be looking at fraud issues too.
I believe either Ron doesn't have such a policy or he is massively exaggerating the level of his coverage. That said, Wick Phillips has at least one lawyer with insurance coverage litigation as a specialty. I would imagine they would have to do some actual litigation to get all or part of their nonsensical and borderline fraudulent billing covered.
Simple. He is lying about insurance.In all of Ron's posts and comments, he is incredibly pissed about owing those fees. Especially in the messages he sent to Nick. Why would he be so angry about fees that were covered by insurance and didn't cost him a penny?