Monica Rial / Monica Jean Rial / Rialisms & Ron Toye / Ronald Toye III / rontoye3 - 5th Bulma and Ron "Pick Up the Phone or You'll Find Your Dog Dead When You Get Home" Toye

It's pretty weird. It's like they all know Ron is an obviously fucked up, creepy dude who lies a lot. They don't think anyone who looks at this squirrelly weirdo can tell that? The question really isn't whether he's a psycho but just what kind.
It's telling that the one Ph.D they got into the thread didn't dispute anything Ken said, but rather questioned if Ken was allowed to say what he did.
 
He sure has their panties in a twist somehow. It's not magic to claim to have a master's degree in some shit and then opine on it in public, and for that matter, it doesn't even take a master's degree. It's not like anyone is obligated to believe anything he says or take him any more seriously than any other reasonably articulate person expressing an opinion.

It's not like randomly psychoanalyzing strangers carries any particularly great weight no matter who is doing it.

I don't need any particularly in depth analysis to see Ron Toye is a gibbering psycho, though. I'm amazed anyone can look at that guy and think he's normal in any way. He's a twitchy, weird, creepy little dude at best and that's even if you don't know he's a wife beating piece of shit who raised a son who says nigger all the time.

Honestly this is not too far off. Most people are good at reading people. It's part of how we function as a social animal and it's a survival mechanism too. You may not know the clinical terminology or how it functions on a deeper level, but you recognize something is up with the person you are seeing or interacting with.

I'm not holding myself out as the final authority on this. But it is interesting how bent out of shape these people are getting over it. That tells me a bit about those people and their personality too.


I mean, they had a viewpoint of the guy that he was a redeemed saint. But, unlike kiwis lawltwitter had their heads so far up their asses they couldnt see the truth. Now with ken coming in he has effectively shaken the tree.

This is a big part of it in my opinion too. Ron has shown there is still quite a deficit in functioning to be able to say he has truly improved.

They would see it as an escalation. I think this stopped being "a thing on the internet" and became personal for both sides. They can't be wrong on the internet because 10 years from now douchebags will be throwing this shit in their face on social media. They desperately need some kind of expert to validate their actions because they can't stand on their own.



I think it two parts.

1. Kiwi's are supposed to be basement dwelling incels who hate women. Ken apparently said just enough to show he has experience in the field so therefore cannot be a basement dwelling incel. And since he cannot be a basement dwelling incel, that must mean he is a legit human being whose opinions must be respected. Of course they fail at this.

2. LawTwitter is full of technocrats. They worship any jackass that can ramble off a list of technical terms until the opposition gives up and leaves. Ken flanked them with some psychiatry and no one on the Threadnaught could immediately ramble off a bunch of psych terms to refute him.

Also, it looks like they are more concerned about attacking Ken's personal credibility rather than address his analysis. That is why they were worried about finding a doctor who would say "that is unethical." I think they know that Ken is accurate enough that any doctor show the same evidence would agree with him

I'm sure they are trawling the internet for a psychiatrist with a podcast to help them.

Again, my disclaimer, not a psychiatrist (cause they actually have to follow the Goldwater rule), but a master's level clinician. But I would agree with your observations here. They weren't even able to disprove me because the person they sought advice from was working under the assumption I fall under the Goldwater rule, which I do not. And there's nothing unethical by keeping my anonymity when people like these lawtwits want to result in my job being taken from me. Plus I have a 1A right too speak, with appropriate disclaimers to set the stage, but I can still speak about my experience and education on the subject, no different than what they have been doing for over a year. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Kind of like how lemwah was an expert.

How dare you.

I've never seen a man more sexually in touch with an O2 tank in my life. Stop kink shaming and expert shaming.

You know, even if Ken does turn out to be an artful troll using big words to appear licensed, he would have brought so many laughs it wouldn't even matter.

I wish I could troll this artfully. I'm just very into my profession so I can speak to it easily. I can troll but my need for instant gratification on that with limited time means dragging something like this out for a troll would be antithetical to how I troll in general.

I've also referenced multiple scholarly articles on sociopathy and body language in making my assessments, I just never posted them here cause I didn't think anyone would want to read them. It was not just a "Wikipedia diagnosis". I can dig up my sources if necessary but I doubt it matters or would matter.
The retard who says that no one wants Vic's dead and dismisses proof that says otherwise like a fucking pussy wants proof that Ken is really a therapist.
You would want that kind of proof that would only benefit you cunts to fuck over Ken Jennings's career.
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If anyone wants to link this article to these people, here's where I got most of my info for the breakdown for Ron why he couldn't sue me and why my diagnosis is ethical. I have stated and corrected people HERE multiple times when they call me a psychiatrist or psychologist, as I am neither. But I am a master's level therapist, which is extremely common for therapists. Even though I have not stated which organization I fall under for masters therapists, none of them strictly prohibit it. I'm well within my lane here. Also each of those sections of the different orgs ethical handbooks can be found separately if you want to fact check the article yourself.

Link: https://www.psychotherapynotes.com/ethically-its-fine-to-diagnose-donald-trump/


Also professional speech was ruled protected by SCOTUS in 2018 in the case NIFLA v. Becerra:

In NIFLA, Justice Thomas made short work of the “professional speech” exception to the First Amendment. He noted that not only has the Supreme Court never recognized such an exception, but that to do so could endanger the speech rights of professionals. He argued that “speech is not unprotected just because it is uttered by ‘professionals.’” For Thomas, the ability of professionals to speak candidly to their clients is crucial to maintaining the marketplace of ideas.

Since states have licensing requirements for so many jobs anymore, it would basically give the states a way to restrict speech by making EVERYTHING licensed, or specific jobs at least like mine.

Funny how lawyers are arguing I don't have 1A protections from the govt, which is literally who does my licensing, when the supreme court has within the last two years ruled I'm protected in my speech by the 1A for repercussions. You would think that they would know that when it took me only a few specific Google searches to find it...

Still not gonna dox myself.

This is one of the rare cases of an actual ad hominem fallacy at work. If the guy is an idiot who is clearly talking nonsense, it should be easy enough to explain why without throwing a squalling tantrum about his qualifications, which don't even matter.

I have nothing to add to this. You would make an interesting therapist. You can read people very well. I'm assuming it's the lawyer education and experience. BUT YOU NEED TO DOX YOURSELF TO PROVE IT MY GUY!

If Ken Jennings's opinion is so utterly worthless that it doesn't deserve to be taken seriously, why are they all making a huge fucking fuss about it? Because it's like I said earlier - all these idiots spent so much time painting a rosy image of Ron as a tragic character, yet it took only one therapist to tear that image down. The best part? Ken didn't even call Ron bad names; he just gave an insightful opinion. Now they're resorting to damage control on Ron and damage infliction on Ken.

Also, note the timing of their shenanigans: roughly a week before Vic's law firm allegedly files a response. They didn't do this two weeks ago or even last week, but they're doing it starting this week, roughly seven days before the next deadline. This is not only ad hominem fallacy, but also a premeditated smear tactic to cause distractions.

Also have nothing to add. I've only wanted Ron to recognize he has ongoing problems and to work on them, at a minimum. I may poke fun but name calling isn't necessary or beneficial for my intentions here anyway.

It's telling that the one Ph.D they got into the thread didn't dispute anything Ken said, but rather questioned if Ken was allowed to say what he did.

He probably didn't care much about it to be honest. But even if he did he probably wouldn't want to say anything for fear of these people going apeshit on him so he just addressed the ethics thing, which respectfully he got wrong as I'm not under the American Psychiatric Association so Goldwater rule doesn't apply.

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I'm not holding myself out as the final authority on this. But it is interesting how bent out of shape these people are getting over it. That tells me a bit about those people and their personality too.

I think they realize they are in the unenviable position of completely and unquestioningly adopting the factual position of a guy who is fairly obviously incapable of telling the truth about anything. Anyone with any responsibility would question whether the allegations against Vic Mignogna that they have more or less mindlessly adopted are actually true. While the relevant factual claims are from Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi, most of the extreme and inflammatory rhetoric is straight from Ron Toye.

They know there's something wrong with this guy and that they've greatly overstated their case. There has to be some cognitive dissonance at work. There's no direct evidence beyond he said/she said about the Rial/Marchi allegations.

Every other allegation made against him has turned out to be outright false or nonsensical, from hanleia's original allegations of child abuse, that were actually about Illich Guardiola to every single allegation about his behavior at conventions. Every single frame of video evidence about any of these completely exonerates Vic. Many of the people Vic was accused (by random strangers) of somehow victimizing actually came forward and stated no, the interaction was completely consensual and they enjoyed it. Or with clearly mentally ill and delusional people like Lynn Hunt, she was accusing him of doing things at conventions she wasn't even at. Other "witnesses" claim he did things at conventions when he was in a completely different state at the time.

Absolutely zero credible allegations have even been made outside of Rial and Marchi's, and the only other witness other than Vic, Rial and Marchi was Stan Dahlin, who says the one event he was supposedly present for, according to Rial, never happened in the way she described.

These people have staked their trust and their reputations on the exaggerated second-hand claims of a creepy, weird, mentally unstable, physically violent and abusive man. That is an unenviable position to be in.
 
I'm sure they are trawling the internet for a psychiatrist with a podcast to help them.
You laugh but the Spednaught was started when one of the lead KV cucks on Twitter (Shannon McCormick IIRC) got sick of the legal opinions of Nick Rekieta (and to a lesser extant AnOminous) being used to bludgeon them daily so decided to send some out-of-context shit to some fat, bankrupt Twitter lawyer who shared it with LawTwitter. And then when Nick fired back and sent a swarm of ISWV at them, LawTwitter took it personally and embarked on an autistic jihad against Nick, Ty Beard, and anything tangentially related to ISWV.

Yeah, they'll try and do the same thing here, and I hope they can distract some dumb Twitter therapist/counselor like Jeffrey Guterman from his latest bizarre ravings on Donald Trump long enough to tweet VIC MAN BAD SOY MAN GOOD. But that sounds more like 2019 Weeb Wars lunacy and not the bland happenings of 2020 Weeb Wars.
 
You laugh but the Spednaught was started when one of the lead KV cucks on Twitter (Shannon McCormick IIRC) got sick of the legal opinions of Nick Rekieta (and to a lesser extant AnOminous) being used to bludgeon them daily so decided to send some out-of-context shit to some fat, bankrupt Twitter lawyer who shared it with LawTwitter. And then when Nick fired back and sent a swarm of ISWV at them, LawTwitter took it personally and embarked on an autistic jihad against Nick, Ty Beard, and anything tangentially related to ISWV.

Yeah, they'll try and do the same thing here, and I hope they can distract some dumb Twitter therapist/counselor like Jeffrey Guterman from his latest bizarre ravings on Donald Trump long enough to tweet VIC MAN BAD SOY MAN GOOD. But that sounds more like 2019 Weeb Wars lunacy and not the bland happenings of 2020 Weeb Wars.
McCormick was more of a weird middle ground between Amanda Winn Lee/D.C. Douglas and Stephanie Sheh/Cristina Vee/TFS TBQH. Felt like he fucked off the moment TUG started sperging out with his fake victimhood.
 
The retard who says that no one wants Vic's dead and dismisses proof that says otherwise like a fucking pussy wants proof that Ken is really a therapist.
You would want that kind of proof that would only benefit you cunts to fuck over Ken Jennings's career.
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None of them actually pay any attention to what was said. I think they are just strawmanning this because they don't understand what Ken's job is.

Honestly this is not too far off. Most people are good at reading people. It's part of how we function as a social animal and it's a survival mechanism too. You may not know the clinical terminology or how it functions on a deeper level, but you recognize something is up with the person you are seeing or interacting with.

I'm not holding myself out as the final authority on this. But it is interesting how bent out of shape these people are getting over it. That tells me a bit about those people and their personality too.




This is a big part of it in my opinion too. Ron has shown there is still quite a deficit in functioning to be able to say he has truly improved.



Again, my disclaimer, not a psychiatrist (cause they actually have to follow the Goldwater rule), but a master's level clinician. But I would agree with your observations here. They weren't even able to disprove me because the person they sought advice from was working under the assumption I fall under the Goldwater rule, which I do not. And there's nothing unethical by keeping my anonymity when people like these lawtwits want to result in my job being taken from me. Plus I have a 1A right too speak, with appropriate disclaimers to set the stage, but I can still speak about my experience and education on the subject, no different than what they have been doing for over a year. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.



How dare you.

I've never seen a man more sexually in touch with an O2 tank in my life. Stop kink shaming and expert shaming.



I wish I could troll this artfully. I'm just very into my profession so I can speak to it easily. I can troll but my need for instant gratification on that with limited time means dragging something like this out for a troll would be antithetical to how I troll in general.

I've also referenced multiple scholarly articles on sociopathy and body language in making my assessments, I just never posted them here cause I didn't think anyone would want to read them. It was not just a "Wikipedia diagnosis". I can dig up my sources if necessary but I doubt it matters or would matter.

If anyone wants to link this article to these people, here's where I got most of my info for the breakdown for Ron why he couldn't sue me and why my diagnosis is ethical. I have stated and corrected people HERE multiple times when they call me a psychiatrist or psychologist, as I am neither. But I am a master's level therapist, which is extremely common for therapists. Even though I have not stated which organization I fall under for masters therapists, none of them strictly prohibit it. I'm well within my lane here. Also each of those sections of the different orgs ethical handbooks can be found separately if you want to fact check the article yourself.

Link: https://www.psychotherapynotes.com/ethically-its-fine-to-diagnose-donald-trump/


Also professional speech was ruled protected by SCOTUS in 2018 in the case NIFLA v. Becerra:



Since states have licensing requirements for so many jobs anymore, it would basically give the states a way to restrict speech by making EVERYTHING licensed, or specific jobs at least like mine.

Funny how lawyers are arguing I don't have 1A protections from the govt, which is literally who does my licensing, when the supreme court has within the last two years ruled I'm protected in my speech by the 1A for repercussions. You would think that they would know that when it took me only a few specific Google searches to find it...

Still not gonna dox myself.



I have nothing to add to this. You would make an interesting therapist. You can read people very well. I'm assuming it's the lawyer education and experience. BUT YOU NEED TO DOX YOURSELF TO PROVE IT MY GUY!



Also have nothing to add. I've only wanted Ron to recognize he has ongoing problems and to work on them, at a minimum. I may poke fun but name calling isn't necessary or beneficial for my intentions here anyway.



He probably didn't care much about it to be honest. But even if he did he probably wouldn't want to say anything for fear of these people going apeshit on him so he just addressed the ethics thing, which respectfully he got wrong as I'm not under the American Psychiatric Association so Goldwater rule doesn't apply.

Edit; added reply.

I will attempt to do better. I should have said "mental health". I don't know what the overall field name is. Just that LawTwitter didn't expect a medical diagnoses and they have no response to it.
You laugh but the Spednaught was started when one of the lead KV cucks on Twitter (Shannon McCormick IIRC) got sick of the legal opinions of Nick Rekieta (and to a lesser extant AnOminous) being used to bludgeon them daily so decided to send some out-of-context shit to some fat, bankrupt Twitter lawyer who shared it with LawTwitter. And then when Nick fired back and sent a swarm of ISWV at them, LawTwitter took it personally and embarked on an autistic jihad against Nick, Ty Beard, and anything tangentially related to ISWV.

Yeah, they'll try and do the same thing here, and I hope they can distract some dumb Twitter therapist/counselor like Jeffrey Guterman from his latest bizarre ravings on Donald Trump long enough to tweet VIC MAN BAD SOY MAN GOOD. But that sounds more like 2019 Weeb Wars lunacy and not the bland happenings of 2020 Weeb Wars.

Weeb Wars ground to a halt because we are waiting on appeals. Also half the country is rioting and attempting to secede from the union. Apparently the insanity of Weeb wars was just an indicator of how fucking unhinged the left had become.

McCormick was more of a weird middle ground between Amanda Winn Lee/D.C. Douglas and Stephanie Sheh/Cristina Vee/TFS TBQH. Felt like he fucked off the moment TUG started sperging out with his fake victimhood.

I think McCormick stopped talking because he has Trump Derangement Syndrome so bad. He was excited about impeachment and whatever other random scandal Trump had.

Also he gets quite defensive about being a "contractor" to Rooster Teeth. When the Quinn stuff happened he wanted no part of it though he screamed he was all about the wahmens with regards to Vic.
 
You would think they would just counter argue with points. It's not hard to say, "I disagree with your point here because a, b, and c." But no... they don't do that. It is funny how they don't bother to defend their position... it's "You're not allowed to say that!" instead. They don't realize their behavior only validates those points about Ron more. Then again these folks never really understood how to make proper arguments in the first place.

Someone can say Ron is a saint because "He bought me a laptop once." We have already discussed that Ron could have used this as a show of power over others. Ron makes a big deal about how much money he has. He seems to equate it with power and if he has more than you, then he's bigger than you. He doesn't see those with less than him as equals. The show of charity was just that... a show.

I also wonder how "generous" Ron was to his exes and if he has a tendency to shower Monica with expensive gifts. A coworker of mine talked about how their abuser constantly gave them presents. Expensive ones... like a new car. It made me think that Ron might of done the same with his victims. Just give something expensive as an "apology" and all will be forgiven. It's a tactic that keeps the victim close because maybe they think the abuse is worth it for that brand new luxury item. All they have to do is endure and they'll be rewarded. I can see Ron doing something like that. But there's no way to know for sure. But it's just a counter point as to why his "generosity" doesn't mean he's a changed man or anything. It might mean the opposite.
 
None of them actually pay any attention to what was said. I think they are just strawmanning this because they don't understand what Ken's job is.

His professional obligations would be to whoever his actual clients are. Otherwise he only has the same obligations as anyone else to a stranger, i.e. not to deliberately or negligently harm them such as by defamation.
 
Honestly this is not too far off. Most people are good at reading people. It's part of how we function as a social animal and it's a survival mechanism too. You may not know the clinical terminology or how it functions on a deeper level, but you recognize something is up with the person you are seeing or interacting with.

I'm not holding myself out as the final authority on this. But it is interesting how bent out of shape these people are getting over it. That tells me a bit about those people and their personality too.




This is a big part of it in my opinion too. Ron has shown there is still quite a deficit in functioning to be able to say he has truly improved.



Again, my disclaimer, not a psychiatrist (cause they actually have to follow the Goldwater rule), but a master's level clinician. But I would agree with your observations here. They weren't even able to disprove me because the person they sought advice from was working under the assumption I fall under the Goldwater rule, which I do not. And there's nothing unethical by keeping my anonymity when people like these lawtwits want to result in my job being taken from me. Plus I have a 1A right too speak, with appropriate disclaimers to set the stage, but I can still speak about my experience and education on the subject, no different than what they have been doing for over a year. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.



How dare you.

I've never seen a man more sexually in touch with an O2 tank in my life. Stop kink shaming and expert shaming.



I wish I could troll this artfully. I'm just very into my profession so I can speak to it easily. I can troll but my need for instant gratification on that with limited time means dragging something like this out for a troll would be antithetical to how I troll in general.

I've also referenced multiple scholarly articles on sociopathy and body language in making my assessments, I just never posted them here cause I didn't think anyone would want to read them. It was not just a "Wikipedia diagnosis". I can dig up my sources if necessary but I doubt it matters or would matter.

If anyone wants to link this article to these people, here's where I got most of my info for the breakdown for Ron why he couldn't sue me and why my diagnosis is ethical. I have stated and corrected people HERE multiple times when they call me a psychiatrist or psychologist, as I am neither. But I am a master's level therapist, which is extremely common for therapists. Even though I have not stated which organization I fall under for masters therapists, none of them strictly prohibit it. I'm well within my lane here. Also each of those sections of the different orgs ethical handbooks can be found separately if you want to fact check the article yourself.

Link: https://www.psychotherapynotes.com/ethically-its-fine-to-diagnose-donald-trump/


Also professional speech was ruled protected by SCOTUS in 2018 in the case NIFLA v. Becerra:



Since states have licensing requirements for so many jobs anymore, it would basically give the states a way to restrict speech by making EVERYTHING licensed, or specific jobs at least like mine.

Funny how lawyers are arguing I don't have 1A protections from the govt, which is literally who does my licensing, when the supreme court has within the last two years ruled I'm protected in my speech by the 1A for repercussions. You would think that they would know that when it took me only a few specific Google searches to find it...

Still not gonna dox myself.



I have nothing to add to this. You would make an interesting therapist. You can read people very well. I'm assuming it's the lawyer education and experience. BUT YOU NEED TO DOX YOURSELF TO PROVE IT MY GUY!



Also have nothing to add. I've only wanted Ron to recognize he has ongoing problems and to work on them, at a minimum. I may poke fun but name calling isn't necessary or beneficial for my intentions here anyway.



He probably didn't care much about it to be honest. But even if he did he probably wouldn't want to say anything for fear of these people going apeshit on him so he just addressed the ethics thing, which respectfully he got wrong as I'm not under the American Psychiatric Association so Goldwater rule doesn't apply.

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What if kink shaming is my kink?!
 
His professional obligations would be to whoever his actual clients are. Otherwise he only has the same obligations as anyone else to a stranger, i.e. not to deliberately or negligently harm them such as by defamation.

LawTwitter is trying to apply the "Goldwater" rule despite the fact it does not apply to Ken's job. Tewson doesn't understand why all jobs in the field don't have the same ethics tied to them. I think this is tripping all of them up, that even if they did find out who Ken was, they have no grounds for an ethics complaint.

Wouldn't stop them from trying.
 
LawTwitter is trying to apply the "Goldwater" rule despite the fact it does not apply to Ken's job. Tewson doesn't understand why all jobs in the field don't have the same ethics tied to them. I think this is tripping all of them up, that even if they did find out who Ken was, they have no grounds for an ethics complaint.

Wouldn't stop them from trying.
Is there a male version of a karen? If so, these guys literally deserve the title.
 
LawTwitter is trying to apply the "Goldwater" rule despite the fact it does not apply to Ken's job. Tewson doesn't understand why all jobs in the field don't have the same ethics tied to them.

Not even clinical psychologists have the Goldwater Rule. It is unique to psychiatrists, who are medical doctors.

There is apparently not a single area of law where law twits won't just straight up lie about the existing legal standards.
 
Homeowner's policy coverage often includes options like an umbrella policy that covers miscellaneous other torts. Usually these are intended for negligence torts, not willful torts, and while they can have very high limits, they're not just blank checks. They're actually going to look very closely at a defamation claim before just coughing up a quarter million. They are also going to tell you to shut the absolute fuck up while the case is pending.

And if you went on a voluminous, incredibly aggressive smear campaign right after getting such a policy you could be looking at fraud issues too.

I believe either Ron doesn't have such a policy or he is massively exaggerating the level of his coverage. That said, Wick Phillips has at least one lawyer with insurance coverage litigation as a specialty. I would imagine they would have to do some actual litigation to get all or part of their nonsensical and borderline fraudulent billing covered.


In all of Ron's posts and comments, he is incredibly pissed about owing those fees. Especially in the messages he sent to Nick. Why would he be so angry about fees that were covered by insurance and didn't cost him a penny?
 
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