CHAZ/CHOP: Autonomous No Cop Zone and Commune Declared In Seattle - Render unto Warlord Raz what is owed to Warlord Raz

Harvey Danger said:
They want to move Seattlites completely across the country to the Florida Keys? What are they going to call the relocation trip, the Delta Flight Of Tears?

Also, this sales listing for Pumpkin Island has the list price at $95 million dollars. They're trying to raise $150 million. I wonder where that extra $55 million is going to go? 🤔

Edit: by the way, just to drive the point home about pampered spoiled bratty liberal LARPers: Pumpkin Key isn't some deserted wilderness with "beautiful lush greenery" ready for a primitive anarcho-commune. It has a luxury resort and clubhouse on it, because it's attached to a nearby private boat club. You access it by boat or by private helicopter. Watch the splash video here to see what they think autonomous hardscrabble communism should look like.
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Wow, I'm actually incredibly offended by this idea. This is literally buying a prefab house that you can claim you built from the ground up. Within a month of buying it, it would turn from fully automated luxury resort communism to a trashed, graffitied, and burned down ecological hazard, only fixed by nature's big eraser, atlantic hurricane season.

Also congrats on our own autonomous zone, kiwis!
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
I decided to dig into this, and it's really quite interesting. The concept of community policing has actually been done in Rojava in Syria, and is apparently quite successful. Basically communities and professional groups began to look after their own corners and have done so more effectively than the Syrian forces they displaced. It's an actual semi-anarcho communist state that seems to be somewhat functional. In the middle of a decade long warzone, admittedly. But still somewhat functioning and has become a bete noir among the chattering morons classes.
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The best lies are built around a kernel of truth. The truth is community policing can work. But it requires an actual community, a strong shared purpose or ideology, and the acceptance that abuses will inevitably happen.

The idiots in CHAZ, and the larger BLM movement itself, have none of that. They have no community, their ideology is fractious, and they have whipped themselves into a purity spiral such that everything must be perfect or it gets torn down. Intersectionality and grievance culture are political tools, not common ground. You can see the fractures in the People's Assembly speeches: there is no consensus on the makeup, purpose, or ideology of the community--everyone is focused on their own interests and activism.

When it comes down to actual resources, everyone prioritizes their own group. And intersectionality specifically encourages you to define yourself as a group in opposition to others. It's the antithesis of community.

As a broader point, @EmuWarsVeteran wrote a great post about the Cadiz commune in Spain. Communes can work, as they have multiple time in the past; but not when they're based around political ideology intended to bind competing groups together. Which is my one critique of the @EmuWarsVeteran post--the Cadiz commune wasn't Communism, because Marx wrote his Manifesto 36 years later. If the Cadiz commune was Communistic, it would've failed as badly as the Paris Commune under similar war time conditions.

Hardship binds disparate groups together, which is why the Cadiz commune worked as long as a war was going on, why the kibbutzim in Israel worked for as long as they did, etc. Religious fervor does the same; the early Christian church operated in communes for 100-200 years after Jesus' death, Catholic monasteries continue to do so, and other modern religious groups sometimes do the same.

But BLM is a grievance ideology based on anger and pain. Nothing binds the "community" together once the rage subsides. Anarcho-communism is a political ideology; nothing binds the members together once some authority is overthrown. And modern utopian liberalism claims no commonality beyond "human rights", which is a fine enough construct for a legal framework, but has never been able to bind a people together close enough to overcome human nature.

You have to build a community before you can have community policing. You can't turn political allies into community members just by repeating the words enough times. If BLM got out of the way and localism was encouraged, we might actually see some viable reforms crop up tailored to specific communities around the country. We might get some best practices and workable guidelines out of it.

But no, it has to be a national movement, because Orange Man Bad or something.
 
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Miller said:
The whole thing will turn into shit once they introduce the progressive stack into every decision or talk. It happened to Occupy and another cringy movement in France a few years ago that was a bad remake of May 1968.
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Nuit Debout was a bunch of LARPing bourgeois trust-funded by the family to jack off on a public place when everyday people would go back home after a day of work, the only lolworthy moment of it was when the "security team" (read antifacist twinks) threw out an old jewish philosopher because he is very vocal about Islam.
 
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tampax pearl said:
Good on you!
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Already had the moment with my wife where we both agreed if shit got out of hand we are grabbing the kids and heading up there with all can carry...take a chainsaw to a tree and block the dirt road in.

I wont be taking part in any of this nigger revolution or lethal coronavirus garbage. The government has coddled these faggots for 20 years and they can reap what they sewed.

Somebody else's problem
 
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bonny said:
In other news here's a twitter threat detailing someone's interaction with Kang Raz (Archive) and accuscations of him being an abuser, here's the interesting bits:
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An update on this woman, she did a speech yesterday where she directly mentions RAZ in stoking violence (1:20). She then goes on to reference fucking avatar the last airbender.




















Here is how Raz reacts. (1:49:53)
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I finished downloading Raz's streams, will upload them soon.
 
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K-7 said:
Nuit Debout
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Yeah that's the one. Nuit Debout was cringe from the start. They were all hipsters and bourgeois who had no idea of what they were doing. It was sad to see these people and the media act like it was a big thing. Like I said, it was just a shitty remake of May 1968 (another protest of bourgeois).
the only lolworthy moment of it was when the "security team" (read antifacist twinks) threw out an old jewish philosopher because he is very vocal about Islam.
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That was Finkielkraut, right? I liked that it happened because it showed that every left or far-left movement that claims to be inclusive always end up having some anti-semitism in it.
 
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Drain Todger said:
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Wow. Amazing. One might actually be deceived into thinking that this was a moving speech, but a more perceptive person would notice that he didn't actually say anything at all. Notice that? Notice how the veiled, appeasing, euphemistic language of the average American has robbed him both of his ability to reason and to impart any shred of meaning?
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That guy is a pro. You can tell it by the way he keeps his position near cover and keeps control of his blindspots when people try and come around behind him. He is also in total control of his emotions and keeping track of whats going on along the fence line.

He isn't there to win some inconsequential argument with some street scum or get likes and shares on the internet. He is there is keep his client's building from being burned and looted. So he dazels them with some bullshit and general statements that the mob leader can't argue with and keeps the conversation from getting heated. Nothing he says matters. That isn't the job.
 
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bonny said:
An update on this woman, she did a speech yesterday where she directly mentions RAZ in stoking violence (1:20). She then goes on to reference fucking avatar the last airbender.
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Here is how Raz reacts. (1:49:53)
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This is the dumbest and yet the most compelling reality TV show yet. What gotta happen next in the CHAV!?!?!

Stay tuned!
 
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John Andrews Stan said:
What’s this woman’s name? I like this subplot of her taking on Raz. For reasons I won’t derail this thread with, I find her extremely credible.
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Her names Jaiden Grayson, here's her twitter and apparently she wants to bring in a tractor??????
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....for defense?
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I swear to god this is the best political lolcow in years, so much chaos and tardcum mixed into one event.
 
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The golden neckbeard said:
You dont need a farm to bug out...just a couple fruit trees to battle scurvy and access to water to fish and probably a paychecks worth of rice and beans and shit.

All this farming bullshit is hippie commune LARPING.... Farms/Gardens like the failure in Seattle provide a calorie deficit. Meaning the work put into it is not worth the food grown. It costs more to till soil, plant, compost and harvest then calories provided.
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Bug-out is the absolute last resort. World ending, soviets reformed and invading, stasi kicking down doors and executing plebs, asteroid dropping on every continent, last resort. It's worth keeping in mind, but in most situations, at worst you're re-locating to family or friends in another locale, rather than heading out into the forest to live off the land. Forget that level of prep. If shit hits the fan hard enough that you're considering heading out to try and grow sheep and forage wild oats, the world is so seriously fucked that you might as well just stay where you are, enjoy what you have, and wait for one ending or another. If you're been half-way sensible, you have several months of food on hand in an easily secured location.

In most disaster scenarios, surviving the first month means you survive long term. You can't do that if you're also learning how to tell poisonous mushrooms from delicious psilocybin. Find a place, stock up and stay there.

Make sure you have enough alcohol on hand. It's a good trading commodity if nothing else.
 
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