U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I've stopped watching the news over the past week, all they talk about is this BLM shit, and now talks are in for defunding MPD.
I heard a mess of sirens last night so I went to our local news' website. Oh. My. God.

These motherfuckers talking about black lives mattering when on the first page there are three stories of babies dying by neglect, abuse, and gunshots. Fuck you disgusting nigger bitches who leave your kids with curdled formula and your home is feces-filled with no heat, or leave your kids with your NOTW to watch and he beats the living shit out of the poor child.

We HAVE to stop incentivizing these bitches having kids, we have to actually take AWAY funding for programs that feed and clothe these kids after school (and during the summer now too!) because Mom is too busy whoring her ass out. We really need to only give welfare to kids who have a MARRIED COUPLE as their parents. Stop this gravy train of Section 8 and gibs that are given willy-nilly to any sheboon who pops out a kid that will end up dead or at the very least, uneducated and neglected, at the hands of their "parent."

Some schools are installing washers, dryers and showers for kids, - at that rate, just TAKE THE KIDS OUT OF THOSE "HOMES!" If you can't clothe, feed and even CLEAN your damn kids with all the welfare you get, CPS needs to step in.

ETA: I want to amend my unedited rant above to show you all the news article about the neglected baby.
Why are people like this?

(And the sirens were an abandoned church on fire about 4 blocks away from us.)

Maybe have Bob Barker do an informercial to remind big cities to spay and neuter their joggers?

 

[Bosmadden]

The condition of the paper and the cleanliness of the handwriting guarantees that it is a forgery. That is supposedly from him in the 2nd grade, so 7-8 years old. I refuse to believe his handwriting was that clean then. Both his handwriting and his illustration indicate this is a forgery. Is this the only work they have of his? Just this single one?? We're going to need lots and lots more to compare it to, which should be as easy to find as this was - just crack open his file already!

Yes she likely wrote that herself but it's been bugging me whether she's just some rando white bitch who's a larp or she actually did teach George. There's too much detailed info for her to be a random IMO.

 

[Green-Machine]

Their 2018 IRS 990EZ is here. It basically confirms that they were running on a shoestring budget before, with only 94k in their bail fund and around 15k in operating expenses (zero full time employees).

One weird thing I noticed - they are saying it would take $50 million to empty Hennepin jail of around 150 people? What the heck did those people do to have an average bail of $333,000?

Well, 33 is an important illuminati number

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

If you do look at Twitter retards, it's still full of niggers or people pretending to be one saying white people have to give every spare cent to niggers after living expenses. Fuck emergencies and everything else, niggers need to live like Kangz on the wypipo dime. I have personal issues with people trying to control my money and that feels like a declaration of war. Not too long ago pre Coonrid-19 a nigger demanded I buy his giant fat ass McDonald's and started screaming I was racist because I wouldnt.
Niggers never stop being selfish children.

I had to beg the boss to fire a line cook one time because leading up to his birthday he was soliciting money and gifts and made fucking banners to hang around the store and even hassled customers for gifts. I'm so fucking sick of them.

 

[GhostButt]

Imagine having a podcast about being fat.
oy vey

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Insanity from the left continues. The idiot got hammered to hell from the peps and deleted the tweets so dunno if any archives out for this yet.

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How very fascist of you Mr. Anti-Fascist.

 

[tigergrinder]

Imagine having a podcast about being fat.
oy vey

it's just an hour of heavy breathing.

 

[and 127 others]

Sort of off topic, but sort of on-topic, but can someone explain to me systematic racism? This isn't a joke, I legitimately can't find any good articles with actual studies and numbers (besides this Ben and Jerry's page that uses vague data and resources) I had a conversation with someone about it last night and they weren't able to really explain it to me after I said I don't believe in it.

I like to be informed and I feel like I'm not about this.

I’ve been genuinely looking for good depictions of evidence for systemic racism, because if it is there, I am available to be convinced. But there is no evidence. Instead, it seems to be a humanitarian (well-meaning) axiomatic assumption that black people can’t possibly be responsible for themselves, their individual and community decisions, or their current relative status as an ethnicity.

The claim that there is systemic racism looks at all of the real data that will clearly demonstrate that the black community is generally poorer, less educated, more violent, more incarcerated, less stable in their family units, etc. Those who conclude this is a result of systemic racism decide that it can’t possibly be because the black community has deep, inherent, systemic issues of their own culture or rests on the shoulders of agents capable of decision-making and responsibility, even a little bit. This explains the sharp silence around this part of the picture and why mentioning it is slapped down instantly; it unravels the position completely.

Popular explanations of systemic racism like this Ben & Jerry’s public service announcement here and the cutely-animated videos that went around on platforms like Instagram are bound to be convincing for uneducated people, and so a larger number are going to take them as sufficient evidence. But it really comes down to the inability to face reality; that nature isn’t egalitarian and there will always be disparities between groups and populations, that this is baked in to things as implacable as geography, and that these are not fixable by or even the initial failing of a system of policies.

These individuals will not look into the deeper questions or reasons as to why that data is the way it is if the answer isn’t racism. It is much easier and now popular to just categorize it all under the abstract rubric of being hidden and systematic, rather than do the lifting to implicate alternative or even additional sources of the disparities.

I’d recommend reading or searching YouTube for Thomas Sowell, an economist and a black man, who can provide much more insight into the data and why they exist. I’d recommend looking to the opinions of a lot of successful black individuals, they will more routinely say that this movement is a farce, and due to factors like application and skill, not opportunity.

Until people actually care to learn and address what the real issues here are, the boogeyman of systemic racism will be a preferred, cheap, easy, feel-good interpretation of the facts. Emotional outrage from a less educated demographic, the memetic technology of converting would-be out-group and more well-informed members to it based on an irrational guilt complex, economic and political opportunity, plus fear of being canceled, and you have the hysteria and near automatic approval of the idea despite it not actually existing.

The fundamental assumptions are quickly being dissolved into the realm of undisputed fact as I type; a hasty conclusion just as the death of George Floyd at the hands of Chauvin was hastily interpreted as a hate crime and motivated by racial animus. Both have yet to be demonstrated with evidence of any kind.

Just to take the time to laugh, this is maybe the most exaggerated example of this sort of interpretation, this is from the Ben & Jerry’s article you link:

Blacks are twice as likely to die in pedestrian accidents than whites, perhaps because, according to one study, motorists are less likely to stop for blacks in the crosswalk.

Spoiler: Analysis

The link is to an editorializing of the study, not the study itself. There’s a red flag. That article doesn’t link to or cite the actual name of the article itself. When you track down the article based on clues, which I can only access freely because I’m on a university connection, you find out that the study was done using simulated pedestrians, who were members of the research team, not a true population representation.

The crosswalk used was an unsignaled one, which means that the cars have no real obligation to stop and that it is the responsibility of the pedestrian to decide when it is safe to walk. This study didn’t and cannot correct for significant contextual factors in this, such as attempting to make eye contact with drivers or waving to oncoming cars, and who knows who did what, the details aren’t there. In other words, the behavior of the pedestrians isn’t accounted for, neither is the attentiveness, empathy, mood, or if the drivers were or felt pressed for time. I’m not sure they even corrected for what population is more likely to be concentrated in urban crosswalk-type areas.

The drivers ethnicities aren’t recorded. It cites another study showing that ppl with blind walking canes got more stops to establish the idea of bias, but continuing that rationale, yielding is an indirect measure of perceived disability and so the racial bias, if there at all, isn’t necessarily negative.

Notice that all arguments in the article and cited articles approaching instances of manifested systemic racism rely on positioning the underlying racial bias just out of the human consciousness. They tell you that individuals are subliminally racist, which is a claim that is absolutely impossible to falsify or really even approach once it is assumed.

Anyway, this study alone would require an equally long article talking about it to get through all its concerns. This is to say nothing of any pre-existing political motivations of the study itself, of the manner in which the study is reported by the article (the headline chosen for that article, it’s political motives and implications), the tertiary political usage and motives of it cited on the Ben & Jerry’s public service announcement, or why the hell we should be taking social, economic, and political education from a fucking ice cream company.

But the point here is that this is just one study that those who support the idea rely on and they are all like this. The editorialized articles are generally all most will read, if they look further than the headline. Even a cursory glance tells you there are a slew of variables that are ignored in order to make the claim. The researchers assume race as the only independent variable though, explicitly.

This is a real bad instance, but the rest of the claims are of the same species; the conclusion is assumed and any other reasons are actively ignored. It would take volumes to refute the damage they do in milliseconds. Those who consume this and the general assumption of systemic racism too are convinced because smart-sounding interpretations like these cover large areas of their ignorance with a unified theory/answer that seems good and just and right.

The bottom line is that you cannot prove, deduce, or even infer racial bias for any one individual from studies and statistics like these, much less assume it over an entire system... one which employs a variety of ethnicities and minorities no less... without already assuming it. The BLM movement and its political allies are far beyond that even, also assuming that the bias is hateful and malicious. In reality, that is just the most inflammatory and politically or academically useful interpretation, especially when you’ve conditioned an entire grieving and historically embarrassed people with longer and longer gravy trains and perpetual victimization.

If anything, more evidence exists to implicate those gravy trains and that victimization as the systemic racism, and absolutely as the oppression.

 

[Andre Richardson]

 

[deeplyhigh]

Post pics if you can find them.

No refunds, bitches!


AngryBlackLady says give the white people a break.


Robby Starbuck telling the cold, hard facts.




Huh, this guy seems overly invested in proving MFF is not stealing money...



Oh.

 

[Plank]

I’ve been genuinely looking for good depictions of evidence for systemic racism, because if it is there, I am available to be convinced. But there is no evidence.

Professor Wilfred Reilly has done a lot of work in this area:

 

[OttoWest]

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Please be that dickhead in the unmarked black Jeep.

 

[Spamy the Bot]

I hope when I get bagged, I get a drama worth of 2500 pages.

 

[Jarolleon]

Yep, a right-winger doing anything anywhere trying to assert something in public, dogpiled by everyone and everything, from the police to the media to the party that allegedly is on their side.

Left-wingers can literally take over a city and be as fucking violent as they want, 'peaceful protesters.'
No shit this will continue and only get worse.

But maybe Tucker is right and it has to happen. If nobody seems to oppose it, it will appear objectively correct.

 

[DavieJones714]

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[Gustav Schuchardt]

To be fair to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, some people in Minnesota now have the kind of freedom 'fuck you' money buys.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

Every business that got destroyed in Minneapolis or is being held hostage in the Seattle LARP should sue the city. The city did nothing to protect its citizens or their businesses.

Good luck. SCOTUS say: no duty to respond.

Also, a great reason not to federally fund their intentional riots: you break it, you buy it.

 

[anionfarflung]

Does Steven Baca need bail money?

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

We're reaching peak clown world, soon it'll be clown universe.

Do you think aliens come to visit us to learn what NOT to do?

 

[Jarolleon]

Holy shit this new sperg is incredible. So few things:

1-"Stop treating us like criminals!" Destruction of historical artifacts, including statues, IS A CRIME. YOU DUMB HOE.

2-"Defund the police!" *Slashes cop's tires.* A few minutes later. *Someone gets shot.* "OMG WHY ISN'T THE POLICE HERE CALL 911!" Yeah, ehm... They're changing their tires. YOU DUMB HOE.

3-So guy got assaulted with a skateboard (which technically counts as an improvised weapon legally) then ripped to the ground and assaulted with fists, as a mob chased him screaming "he's a cop, get him." And "Kill him!" And he only shot 1 person. And they want to claim it's a hatecrime. Bitch if anything that's an incredible display of self restraint I am in that situation and survival instinct's gonna scream at me to keep shooting at anything even close to where I am till I am safe. A real xenophobe would've gone for the killstreak!

4-So they're taking down the statue of Juan de Oñate. Due to "tensions between Hispanics and Native Americans" over the conquest of america. With the second group claiming Spaniards were genocidal.

Heh. Yeah. Wanna know why "Hispanics" are on the conquistadors' side? Here's some fun facts you should know:

A) Juan de Oñate was born in Zacatecas. His parents were at the very least mostly spanish. But if you've read my rants about race relations in the past, you know nationality matters more to spaniards, and thankfully thay's a trait many "other" hispanics do follow. And indeed El Paso financed what is currently the largest equestrian statue in the world to celebrate him.

B) Spain at the time as I explained before (and will explain in more detail in deep thoughts a few days from now) was one of the nicest imperialistic forces out there (except when dealing with protestants. Protestants got the torch.) Having outlawed slaving conquered people's soon after being founded and even before colon landed on america. And passing legislation over and over again to stomp the different legal loopholes slavers found until all that was left was the "encomiendas", and claiming natives from conquerred territories as their own. Legally, if you were born in spanish territories (and weren't born to slaves), you were a citizen of spain with full rights, no matter your skintone. Because for spain integration became a priority thanks to the lessons from the Reconquista.

This is seen today scientifically. As genes from south america not only are still widely present on their original territories, but even found all over spain due to the migration from "new spain" to the peninsula. Whereas north americans which were handled by the anglos... well. They got mostly genocided and their genes are night impossible to find outside of their reserves. Yeah, that's right, while spaniards were far from perfect, the difference in how they treated their conquest when compared with everyone else was so large that it's left an undeniable biological mark in the gene pool of the human race. "Genocydal" my ass!

C) Indeed the reason for Juan de Oñate's expansion north was, wait for it: the establishment of new missions! Why is this important? Well aside from the fact that the missionaries were literally the nicest people you could find at the time, seriously, they had one more legal reason to do it: the Holy See had banned catholics from enslaving other catholics by this time. (That's why slaves from catholic ethnicity were only found on british colonies.) Meaning if you were from a territory with missions in it and had converted, not only would spain recognize you as a citizen, but they had the right to come knocking on the doors of slavers from other countries if they tried to get to you and not-so-nicely inform them that they were playing with fire, and they could get burnt... Literally. Again. "Genocydal."

D) So why is Juan de Oñate "controversial" if this guy literally was about the best deal you could get when it comes to being conquered? Well let's actually get to his story:

Spoiler: history

Oñate got permission to conquer New Mexico (which also included Texas at the time), and he was one of the more severe rulers between the conquistadors. Known even by his own men for taking shit from no one and responding really poorly to any kind of insubordination or "desertion of duty", sleep on the job, you get the whip. He ruled with an iron fist. But it must be emphasized, even his close friends got punished severely if they fucked up, he did not discriminate, he hated everyone equally.

So the colony is created, the missions are launched, most "indians" are integrated, which is no small labor! Do take into account that his caravan had to deal with ambushes and raids by the natives the entire fucking way there, specially since they left Zacatecas! Indeed Oñate was not the first explorer to get there, but everyone before him got SLAUGHTERED TO THE LAST MAN by the natives, the fact that they even considered peaceful integration when the natives had consistently killed every single person efore them shows you spaniards had quite a different goal when compared to anglos. And the 3 neighboring tribes which preferred to stay independent, Being Hopi, Zuñi and Acoma are contacted and made the offer to integrate, which they refuse, then made the offer to coexist. With varying results.

By varying results I mean Zuñi and Hopi managed to coexist quite well and were relatively successful at least till the anglos came and you know how that went. Though they still have reserves so at the very least they survived. Acoma, on the other hand, were visited by the Maese de Campo of Oñate, Juan de Zaldivar, and 16 soldiers. And at first led them inside the village, where they separated the group in two, and then slaughtered them. Only 5 soldiers survived by having to throw themselves off the side of the mountain to escape. (6 managed to make it to the bottom but the 6th one broke his leg and was slaughtered by the natives when they got down.)

Revisionists nowadays claim the spaniards were there to demand food from the natives and the Acoma only responded with violence in self defense. This isn't just false, it's ludicrous. A Maese de Campo would NEVER have been sent on such a mission, they were diplomats, he was sent, as the paperwork proves, to try to establish coexistance with Acoma and hopefuly integrate them like they had integrated their neighbors.

So, now, put yourselves on the skin of Oñate. You're already known for being a hardass. And you need that reputation 'cause shit's not going very well supplies wise, no mine's been found yet and people are fairly impoverished. You've had to beg the king to let you continue specifically so as to not leave the people there at the mercy of the anglos and to hopefuly bring the missions so at this point you're a glorified ONG with pointy sticks. And now one of the largest villages, unprovoked, uses deception and ambush tactics to slaughter a diplomatic body, killing one of your high ranking personnel. What is even worse your cities are currently on the plains, unprotected, while Acoma hides on the only rock in the mountain. And there are rumors that the indians are planning to siege El Real, claiming that Spaniard's weapons are "just for show" after having seen them being used in the Fiestas de Sortijas y Cañas. (Which was a grievous misunderstanding by the indians btw. Yes the weapons used in those games were for show. 'Cause said games were reenactments. Those were obviously not the same weapons used in real wars. Thats like if chinks saw american reenactors and claimed the american army is using airsoft guns.) And indeed the ambushes have grown in size so much since Acoma rebelled than now you got a whole damned battalion of female peasants joining the guard 'cause there's not enough men. What do you do?

Well he did what most would do. Sent in a force, with an ultimatum: this is war. Surrender or die. Then when Acoma predictably answered with violence, his force responded with more violence. Way more violence than the Acoma could ever hope to contain. And yet even then, even at this point of "you were just asking for a fucking darwin award" they sent with this force the god damned missionaries to try and save as many indians as possible and ensure the civilians in the village weren't harmed. Because spaniards just craved martyrdom it seems.

Hundreds of Acoma got slaughtered, the rest captured. And far from showing even the slightest bit of understanding the indians acxused Oñate of using witchcraft, claiming the spaniards had been aided by a supernatural horseman accompanied by a woman, and sworn to rebel and fight to the last men. Making the point by staging the ritualistic suicide of 2 of their own with a written declaration left alongside them. Now I have to say this is exactly the point at which I'd have just slaughtered them all. I mean, Oñate had to send a massively numerically inferior force due to having to cut his army to protect the villages, and even then spaniards had shown a ludicrous superiority when it comes to actual combat prowess, and now these guys are all captured because as the missionaries kept telling the soldiers: "Quese aquese el valor de los castellanos. Vencer sin sangre y muerte al que acometen." ("This is the value of castillians, to defeat without blood or death those who they subject.") And not only do they not show the slightest bit of humility. But they literally swear they will kill you as soon as they have a chance to. That's it. No amount of compassion can stop this. Just fucking kill them all already, they are begging for death. But no. Oñate just gave the order to get every single able man who is still in condition to fight, and cut one of their feet so they are not in condition to fight anymore...

And that is why the Acoma now claim he was a GENOCYDAL MONSTER. I'm sorry but WHAT?! DO YOU PEOPLE EVEN KNOW THE DEFINITION OF GENOCYDE? Up there you got the anglos passing entire villages by the sword without provocation and here this motherfucker not only repeatedly tries to integrate you peacefuly, even after you slaughtered his emissary, but sends missionaries to ensure his soldiers don't cause unnecessary deaths IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING SIEGE and you are stupid enough to SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO HIS DEATH after he's already undeniably won and has you at his mercy, and all he does is maim your ass so you CAN'T keep fighting. Fucker had the patience of a saint!

Yeah needless to say. Fuck these people.

To be fair, going the genocidal route would have been rather idiotic when the region you're colonizing has an equivalent population density to the mother country, while Anglos mostly picked sparsely populated regions inhabited by people who lived like it was the Neolithic era (probably harder to integrate than already urbanized mesoamericans). When they colonised the Pajeets it was a different story. Of course these idiots probably think that coerced religious conversion is genocide, because why make a new word that accurately describes what's happening when you can just expand the definition of something that already has emotional weight?