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However a question is that even a giant majority of black conservatives vote democrat as well. Are these the black baptist church going types or the Thomas Sowell/Eric D July types?
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Black Democrats are only socially conservative. Everything else they're liberal and collectivist. Self segregating into black colleges, black churches and black friend groups is the antithesis of individualism.

Anyone who is ideologically even remotely close to Thomas Sowell would be able to see through and detach from the 'I have to vote Dem because the other party is racist.'

So I think they are genuinely left, but if you could break through the grip the Democratic Party has on them, you could convince them. It happens a lot, if you spend time with conservatives, it begins to rub off on you. I honestly that the Trump has been dragged right by becoming president and getting bombarded with conservative thought. If you brought him the bump stock ban or red flag bills today I think he would immediately dismiss them based on the conservative arguments against gun control being shown to be correct in light of the unrest. Once you're exposed to conservative though and see it proven right time and time again you see the wisdom in it.
Besides the left's constant narrative that the GOP (and really every right wing party) is racist, I think culture is a big reason. White people, being descendents of European cultures, value a more orderly, calculated approach to things. On the other hand, brown and black people are descendents of places that put a premium on being more free flowing and improvised.

I noticed this in high school. White head coaches would have charts and stuff for different situations. Black head coaches would just shoot from the hip. Go back and watch Friday Night Lights (the movie, not the show). There's a few instances, but especially look at how much more methodical the Permian head coach (Billy Bob Thornton's character) is compared to the Carter head coach. One instance in particular, the Carter head coach said, fuck it. Fourth down, let's put it away, I'm going for it. The Permian coach would have looked at his chart, and thought based on field position, time remaining and the score, the best option is to punt and make them drive the length of the field. Stark difference. I remember seeing that and thought it was dead on.

I did study abroad in college and it was during the Eurocup. I had never watched soccer before but I got into it. Came back stateside and watched a few matches from Latin America and the difference in styles was plain to see. In Europe it was precision passing, working the ball around, etc. In Latin America it seemed more freestyle and improvised.

Different cultures, whatever. To each his own. But what I'm trying to say is that conservative thought doesn't do as well in environment where the emphasis is on improvisation instead of deliberation. Trying to convince someone that isn't as systematic that say, rent control, is counterproductive, is near impossible. Especially since initially left wing proposals often appear to work. Look at Venezuela. Everything was good... until it wasn't.

Of course that's not to say there's no value in the more loose view of the world. Pre planning is great while everything goes to plan. But once shit starts going to hell, all you can do is improvise, if you know how. I can't for shit. I need to have everything planned out five steps ahead. They all do know how because their view of the world depends on it.
 
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So, Amazon just posted a description of Mary Trump’s book - the president’s niece:

Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man
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Mary L. Trump
In this revelatory, authoritative portrait of Donald J. Trump and the toxic family that made him, Mary L. Trump, a trained clinical psychologist and Donald’s only niece, shines a bright light on the dark history of their family in order to explain how her uncle became the man who now threatens the world’s health, economic security, and social fabric.

Mary Trump spent much of her childhood in her grandparents’ large, imposing house in the heart of Queens, where Donald and his four siblings grew up. She describes a nightmare of traumas, destructive relationships, and a tragic combination of neglect and abuse. She explains how specific events and general family patterns created the damaged man who currently occupies the Oval Office, including the strange and harmful relationship between Fred Trump and his two oldest sons, Fred Jr. and Donald.

A firsthand witness to countless holiday meals and family interactions, Mary brings an incisive wit and unexpected humor to sometimes grim, often confounding family events. She recounts in unsparing detail everything from her uncle Donald’s place in the family spotlight and Ivana’s penchant for regifting to her grandmother’s frequent injuries and illnesses and the appalling way Donald, Fred Trump’s favorite son, dismissed and derided him when he began to succumb to Alzheimer’s.

Numerous pundits, armchair psychologists, and journalists have sought to parse Donald J. Trump’s lethal flaws. Mary L. Trump has the education, insight, and intimate familiarity needed to reveal what makes Donald, and the rest of her clan, tick. She alone can recount this fascinating, unnerving saga, not just because of her insider’s perspective but also because she is the only Trump willing to tell the truth about one of the world’s most powerful and dysfunctional families.
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On November 9, 2016, after her uncle was elected as president, Mary Trump tweeted several times to prominent media personalities and liberals, saying it was, “One of the worst nights of my life.” She also tweeted, “Utterly horrifying. What has happened to our country?” In another tweet that same night she wrote, “James Comey should be in jail.”

About Donald Trump winning the election, his niece said on Twitter, “What a tragedy. I feel like that lost my country tonight.” She added, “Hillary Clinton is an extraordinary human being and public servant. That she lost to this is unspeakable.” In a tweet to Joy Reid of MSNBC, she called into question the legitimacy of her uncle’s victory, writing, “FBI, Comey, Wikileaks, Russia, obsession with emails, normalization of racism, sexual assault. Fair and square? No.”

Her Twitter profile states, “#blacklivesmatter, 🏳️‍🌈,she/her/hers.”
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The world's most dangerous man! That is perhaps the coolest title you could ever lay on a guy.
 
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Robert James said:
I don't think george floyd made people show their true colors, I think seeing cities burn, people riot, and the response from every authority being this is safe and okay changed people. We got to actively see our country go up in flame and watched as institution after institution supported it. It only got worse as media covered it up and you started to get mocked for showing how much damage the protest had done and your job would have meetings about how awfull the country is and the only place you could vent was here. Look at A&H now the people are a lot less unhinged than before and seemed to have calmed down.

Think of it like this, you spent the weekend watching building after building burn with a group of people who knew how bad it was. During the week you go into work and you have an hour long meeting about how bad blacks are being treated, your co workers won't shut up about how awful the world is for blacks, if you try to show them any numbers you are a biggot that gets to lose their job, you go to the gym the T.V.'s have stories of random black people claiming the U.S. has been harming them for 500+ years, you go home check the news every channel is playing an interview about the drug addict felon that got shot telling you how much of a good boy he was. As the week progresses your company has more meetings about racism, politician after politician falls to the mob and even the party of law and order has a hard time standing up. The pope holds a cerimony for a man that nearly performed a gun assisted abortion, and the criminal is being treated like a saint. The most common attack used against you if you try to attack the riots is that you are racist. After a week or even a day of that your going to need to vent and since you can't vent to your familly anymore guess which gossiping forum gets your bile.
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So what you're saying is that this sphere of the internet is to Western society what Cassandra was to Troy?
 
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Fun fact: if you tune into ABC news you can hear how they're trying to keep the riots going by talking about two more black people getting Arkancided, one even with a USB chord. They even went with "seems like suicide... BuT!" and how the other guy was stopped hours before by a cop.

Fuck off you idiots, your manufactured riots help Trump you stupid motherfuckers. Any city dumb enough to try and get rid of cops (like Philly now apparently) are also going to have mass GOP turn out because people actually like having law enforcement as a thing, and don't want to have to deal with the possibility of being Koreans on the Roof.
 
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HumanHive said:
"Welp" is a right wing dogwhistle meaning "white ethnostate lasts perpetual".
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On that note how long is it going to be before 4chan goes around major tech companies calling the people working there nerds and when they all own it and agree, they get told that nerd stands for 'Not Even Remotely Democrat' and watch them lose their shit
 
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Adamska said:
Fun fact: if you tune into ABC news you can hear how they're trying to keep the riots going by talking about two more black people getting Arkancided, one even with a USB chord. They even went with "seems like suicide... BuT!" and how the other guy was stopped hours before by a cop.

Fuck off you idiots, your manufactured riots help Trump you stupid motherfuckers. Any city dumb enough to try and get rid of cops (like Philly now apparently) are also going to have mass GOP turn out because people actually like having law enforcement as a thing, and don't want to have to deal with the possibility of being Koreans on the Roof.
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Is Tucker baiting them? He talks as if they help the Dems by essentially browbeating the entire country into pledging allegiance to extreme-left ideology, creating a false consensus that will slowly shift to a true consensus because that's how brainwashing works supposedly, and the Dems probably believe it's working because of that one poll saying BLM's approval is increasing (that too may be part of the false consensus). Maybe he's trying to get the Left to keep it up, while simultaneously showing his regular audience how fucked up it all is.

Edit: Just in case you have to talk to a pedantic asshole, apparently the Wikipedo-approved term for what I mean by 'False Consensus" is "Pluralistic Ignorance". Funnily enough leftie academia studied it because they wanted to shit on old-time segregationists (https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/duque/files/pluralistic_ignorance_and_social_change_new_1027.pdf).
 
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Is Tucker baiting them? He talks as if they help the Dems by essentially browbeating the entire country into pledging allegiance to extreme-left ideology, creating a false consensus that will slowly shift to a true consensus because that's how brainwashing works supposedly. Maybe he's trying to get the Left to keep it up, while simultaneously showing his regular audience how fucked up it all is.
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I think Tucker is somewhat out of step with his audience. His audience already knows how fucked up it all is. That's why they voted for Trump.

The difference is that he thinks we should spend political capital on pushing back while his audience wants to let it ride and let the Dems destroy each other and alienate the moderates. Of course Congressional Republicans are okay with this because just letting it ride would also be the coward's response. So for once the base isn't being screwed over because playing it slow is actually what the base wants.

I'm okay with Tucker pouring gasoline on the fire though. I'm all about that.
 
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The difference is that he thinks we should spend political capital on pushing back while his audience wants to let it ride and let the Dems destroy each other and alienate the moderates.
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I'm dubious of the widespread efficacy of this at this point. In the past I've definitely agreed with it but more and more I see more "moderates" who are just digging in their heels and NeverTrumping harder than before. They're actively shutting their eyes and ears to a lot of what's coming from the left because I guess they feel if they pay as little attention to it as possible they can't be influenced by it. They had low-key TDS before that was barely kept in check and being presented with evidence that it was misfounded is, instead of curing it, causing a flareup. It's not that they support what the left is doing, but they're willing to ignore it or just kind of view only the most positive (in their minds) aspects of it.

Maybe that's just my experience though.
 
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heyitsmike said:
I think Tucker is somewhat out of step with his audience. His audience already knows how fucked up it all is. That's why they voted for Trump.

The difference is that he thinks we should spend political capital on pushing back while his audience wants to let it ride and let the Dems destroy each other and alienate the moderates. Of course Congressional Republicans are okay with this because just letting it ride would also be the coward's response. So for once the base isn't being screwed over because playing it slow is actually what the base wants.

I'm okay with Tucker pouring gasoline on the fire though. I'm all about that.
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Tucker has strong right-wing principles and believes that we need to crack down on this madness because it's hurting (even killing) Americans. He's said outright that if he had his way no cities would have to burn down over this, and the military would already be there on day 1 of rioting to show them that this can't happen in a civilized country.
 
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These pussies never learn.
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Just wanna say, I fucking love how they take advantage of blowing up on twitter and immediately sell out to some mask&posture ads, like holy fucking shit, its almost like you waited for this to happen. Also, most of the hidden tweets are just KPOP retards spamming fancams, although there is 2 or 3 tweets that they hid which were against the person's point, shame they cant just swallow the fact that they are wrong.
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