2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I can tell you exactly how they will run the country and how it will be successful. Right now there is a very easy scapegoat for the democrats, that being the far right. When riots were breaking out among the protests it wasn't the fault of the protesters, as the media put it, it was the "invisible far right menace," and the crazy thing is that a lot of the democrats believed it. When you have your supporters unified around hating on one group of people it's easy to run things, just look at Nazi Germany for example. And don't fool yourself into believing republicans will fight against them because, even as we're seeing right now with the renaming of bases and the removing of statues, the republicans are too scared of being called racist than doing their jobs.

Yeah but they (will hopefully) have a hard time playing the VERY REAL AND VERY SCARY far-right menace while also playing the "antifa doesnt exist lol"

 

[heyitsmike]

yeah much like any real republican nothing makes me sicker than republicans, but when Cocaine Mitch thinks he can take his limiters off and have judiciarymania run wild it's pretty impressive

I hate that he's a neocon too. But all I need from Mitch McConnell is to confirm judges and traffic cocaine, so I can let the rest slide.

His committee assignments suck too, like Burr for Senate Intel Commitee, only to replace him with Rubio. But at the same time, the GOP electorate has to take responsibility for voting for them in the primary. If the base didn't pick losers, McConnell wouldn't have losers to pick himself. Although the quality of the congressional GOP is improving slowly but surely.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

Here's an interesting poll that nobody seems to want to talk about. https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1269986222207877120

" CNN National Poll: "Is your vote more *FOR* your candidate or *AGAINST* the other candidate":
"Trump supporters: 70% vote for Trump 27% vote against Biden"
"Biden supporters: 37% vote for Biden 60% vote against Trump"

Looks like we have a case of "Herp derp anybody but Bush/Obama/Trump/the other guy" again. Trump is probably going to win this election, I have seen nothing so far other than "muh polls" to the contrary.

If this poll is taken at face value than it looks like Trump has a decent chance at winning because his supporters actually want to vote for him. In elections you want to vote for the guy who has an actual message a goal in his platform rather than a guy. Obama got elected because people liked him and his message of Hope and Change that helped him beat two guys whose messages were continuing the crappy status quo and not the other guy. Same thing with Trump where people are voted for him because he had an actual campaign platform outside of "my opponent is evil". When I interned at a State level political party in 2016 I was told enthusiasm was everything and the parties goal was to motivate enough people who supported our candidate to actually get off their asses and vote. Clearly Trump had a lot more enthusiasm from his supporters in 2016 which according to polls hasn't dropped off even with the end of the world happening.

Nobody I know, Trump voters included, likes Trump as a person and barely any like him as a president. I certainly don't. But the way I see it a Trump victory will at the very least slow down the Great Jog Forward long enough for smart people to see it coming and get the fuck out.

It's the opposite for me, most of the Trump supporters I know are die-hard super-fans of him, it helps that his opponents are so utterly insane he looks normal by comparison. This is something interesting to think about but what economic levels and educational backgrounds support Trump and at what level of enthusiasm? What does a blue collar Trump supporter think of him vs. a college educated Trump supporter?

 

[Unassuming Local Guy]

What does a blue collar Trump supporter think of him vs. a college educated Trump supporter?

I'd wager blue collar is "he loves America as much as I do, when's the next rally" and college educated is "I'd vote for a volcano who demands sacrifice if it means the Overton window stops moving left". Based on who I know, anyway.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

I'm not. As much as I am Pro Trump, if I were polled, I'd be in the against Biden category too. That I like the GOP nominee is a bonus, but under no circumstances must the Dems be allowed to take the White House, and I'd say that even if Jeb Bush were on the top of the ticket.

The country can survive without Trump in the White House, it won't with a Democrat. They can't even hold together Seattle, how would they hold together America?

By the media, doing what it does best.

"Everything is fine."

If this poll is taken at face value than it looks like Trump has a decent chance at winning because his supporters actually want to vote for him. In elections you want to vote for the guy who has an actual message a goal in his platform rather than a guy. Obama got elected because people liked him and his message of Hope and Change that helped him beat two guys whose messages were continuing the crappy status quo and not the other guy. Same thing with Trump where people are voted for him because he had an actual campaign platform outside of "my opponent is evil". When I interned at a State level political party in 2016 I was told enthusiasm was everything and the parties goal was to motivate enough people who supported our candidate to actually get off their asses and vote. Clearly Trump had a lot more enthusiasm from his supporters in 2016 which according to polls hasn't dropped off even with the end of the world happening.


It's the opposite for me, most of the Trump supporters I know are die-hard super-fans of him, it helps that his opponents are so utterly insane he looks normal by comparison. This is something interesting to think about but what economic levels and educational backgrounds support Trump and at what level of enthusiasm? What does a blue collar Trump supporter think of him vs. a college educated Trump supporter?

A college educated Trump supporter? Has the unicorn finally been discovered?

But, in all seriousness, a college educated Trump supporter would likely ditch the rose tinted hue and see an absolute clown of a man, a reality TV star, and a shameless showman who has no problem with saying what he wants, when he wants and how he says it, while STILL voting for him because compared to the Democrats with how crazy they've gotten, and that a rally for black transgenders numbering in the THOUSANDS is blatantly an insulting violation of public trust and integrity in the face of this so called pandemic that the local leadership sees fit to disadvantage working class people further.

 

[MrJokerRager]

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A college educated Trump supporter? Has the unicorn finally been discovered?

But, in all seriousness, a college educated Trump supporter would likely ditch the rose tinted hue and see an absolute clown of a man, a reality TV star, and a shameless showman who has no problem with saying what he wants, when he wants and how he says it, while STILL voting for him because compared to the Democrats with how crazy they've gotten, and that a rally for black transgenders numbering in the THOUSANDS is blatantly an insulting violation of public trust and integrity in the face of this so called pandemic that the local leadership sees fit to disadvantage working class people further.

WTF does that sentence in bold even mean?

I guess I would call myself a college educated loner that has slowly started to support Trump over the democratic party post 2018 when they started impeachment. After 2016, I was still in the Democrat camp and was a Bernie Bro. I started having questions about Bernie Sanders after he was surrounding himself with more IDPOL type dipshits and abandoning his FDR style New Deal ideals. Also was mad at the Democrats at fucking over Bernie and was heavily disappointed in CNN and other liberal outlets just fucking putting the man's face on TV 24/7 and over hyping him so much. I believe reducing coverage of Trump would hurt him because he loves the free publicity and it hadn't stop him at all from his tweets and antics. Making Trump seem a normal man instead of Uber Hitler Terminator Nigger Killer KKK 9000 would defeat him as reduce his aura of telling his supporters that they are besieged from all sides. Everything the democrats did in the first two years backfired and they have suicidal doubled down since.

As for Trump, in the beginning I thought he was an neocon surrounded by the worst assholes from the Bush Administration. After 3 years though, my opinion of him has changed as now I see a president who has formed a non-interventionist ideology combined with tariffs and reducing immigration. Also another big threat is China, which needs to be dealt with as well. I never believed in the Russia collusion bullshit. His attempted actions are more left wing than the democrats such as reducing immigration for both legal and illegal as well as protectionism is something democrats used to do. Its a difficult road for him though to accomplish it and as more he moved closer to the type of policies the United States had during its heydeys, the corporate backlash and imperial warhawks have only increased further. Also like him for his honesty and willingless to bring stuff up that previous two administrations never talked about. I don't see anything wrong with his style and got tired of decorum while bombing mudpeople in 3rd world shitholes from the previous administrations.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

WTF does that sentence in bold even mean?

I guess I would call myself a college educated loner that has slowly started to support Trump over the democratic party post 2018 when they started impeachment. After 2016, I was still in the Democrat camp and was a Bernie Bro. I started having questions about Bernie Sanders after he was surrounding himself with more IDPOL type dipshits and abandoning his FDR style New Deal ideals. Also was mad at the Democrats at fucking over Bernie and was heavily disappointed in CNN and other liberal outlets just fucking putting the man's face on TV 24/7 and over hyping him so much. I believe reducing coverage of Trump would hurt him because he loves the free publicity and it hadn't stop him at all from his tweets and antics. Making Trump seem a normal man instead of Uber Hitler Terminator Nigger Killer KKK 9000 would defeat him as reduce his aura of telling his supporters that they are besieged from all sides. Everything the democrats did in the first two years backfired and they have suicidal doubled down since.

As for Trump, in the beginning I thought he was an neocon surrounded by the worst assholes from the Bush Administration. After 3 years though, my opinion of him has changed as now I see a president who has formed a non-interventionist ideology combined with tariffs and reducing immigration. Also another big threat is China, which needs to be dealt with as well. I never believed in the Russia collusion bullshit. His attempted actions are more left wing than the democrats such as reducing immigration for both legal and illegal as well as protectionism is something democrats used to do. Its a difficult road for him though to accomplish it and as more he moved closer to the type of policies the United States had during its heydeys, the corporate backlash and imperial warhawks have only increased further. Also like him for his honesty and willingless to bring stuff up that previous two administrations never talked about. I don't see anything wrong with his style and got tired of decorum while bombing mudpeople in 3rd world shitholes from the previous administrations.

I would have respected Bernie's platform still if he didn't croak the first time. Back then, I held some level of expectation for him and thought that he was one of the better candidates. It's when the media started to prop him up as some kind of superstar for giving Hillary the stink eye, was when I started to see the signs. My hunch didn't betray me when he went all in and endorsed that sociopath. That was when I decided not to put my eggs into just one basket.

 

[jje100010001]

By the media, doing what it does best.

"Everything is fine."

A college educated Trump supporter? Has the unicorn finally been discovered?

But, in all seriousness, a college educated Trump supporter would likely ditch the rose tinted hue and see an absolute clown of a man, a reality TV star, and a shameless showman who has no problem with saying what he wants, when he wants and how he says it, while STILL voting for him because compared to the Democrats with how crazy they've gotten, and that a rally for black transgenders numbering in the THOUSANDS is blatantly an insulting violation of public trust and integrity in the face of this so called pandemic that the local leadership sees fit to disadvantage working class people further.

Low-info Trump supporters vote for him based on his mean,loud-n-proud personality and to stick it to the establishment; the educated supporters are willing to look beyond that and see that he offers the best chance of resistance against China, democratic entrenchment, and illegal immigration- that quite a few of his failures were largely in part due to Congress/judiciary stonewalling (Obamacare, the wall) and bureaucratic sabotage (i.e. impeachment, leaks), and that he has accomplished quite a few things in spite of his setbacks without relying extensively on executive legislation like Obama. Of course, there are also several self-inflicted wounds (especially his inability to remove Obama holdovers from the bureaucracy and the sometimes unnecessary Twitter flaming), but I think those can only be truly examined in the years beyond his presidency.

And like what you said, both of these groups can also look across the aisle, and see that the Democrats are visibly hostile to the US (i.e. their connections to China and insistence that the US was never great) and nakedly opportunistic as well (i.e. Pelosi's requirements for the Coronavirus bailouts, lockdown hypocrisies, racist pandering).

In the end, the racist facist dystopia the Liberals have been aching to see has yet to materialize except in their own Dem-run cities and corporations.

Here's an interesting poll that nobody seems to want to talk about. https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1269986222207877120

" CNN National Poll: "Is your vote more *FOR* your candidate or *AGAINST* the other candidate":
"Trump supporters: 70% vote for Trump 27% vote against Biden"
"Biden supporters: 37% vote for Biden 60% vote against Trump"

Looks like we have a case of "Herp derp anybody but Bush/Obama/Trump/the other guy" again. Trump is probably going to win this election, I have seen nothing so far other than "muh polls" to the contrary.

The interesting thing is that I think that 60% Biden support against Trump is extremely reliant on the mood of the country and general media narrative messaging- i.e. coronavirus, riots, etc.

They don't like Biden enough to vote for him, but if (big if) Trump can deliver a relatively smooth summer recovery, he can chip away at that 60% support as people may feel less inclined to go out and vote if they don't feel like the US is about to end.

 

[heyitsmike]

How many people do you think donated to Bernie also donated to this?

NO REFUNDS!

 

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So what's the word on Trump's big speech today?

 

[MrJokerRager]

So what's the word on Trump's big speech today?

Same shit different day. Republicans applaud him. Democrats hate him. Niggers and Minorities still hate him. Doesn't solve the police brutality issue as its down at the local level and most democrats still want to keep the police as is around to keep niggers and minorities in line.

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This was our potiential VP right now as another poster said.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1272944779542831106

http://archive.li/ibGqq

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

How many people do you think donated to Bernie also donated to this?
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NO REFUNDS!

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Same shit different day. Republicans applaud him. Democrats hate him. Niggers and Minorities still hate him. Doesn't solve the police brutality issue as its down at the local level and most democrats still want to keep the police as is around to keep niggers and minorities in line.

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This was our potiential VP right now as another poster said.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1272944779542831106

http://archive.md/ibGqq

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[Balr0g]

They might've been called racist in the Obama era but politics changed in 2016, republicans could get away with not caring but now there are brutal public campaigns to demonize the republican, anyone who votes for him and everyone who is generally associated with him. These types of campaigns didn't happen in the Obama era and it's only getting worse. If you speak out about supporting the republicans in any way while working for some big tech company or working in the service sector you are at risk of losing your job while before 2016 that type of firing was far less common.

The thing is though that that might be the reason why Trump could win (though it also Shows just how Orwellian our society gets). The silent majority strikes at the voting booth. And to be honest what does it say about the voters who would vote in a senile, racist, Girl-sniffing, mumbling idiot into Office just to get Trump out? Yikes (then again who knows if Biden even survives until the election)

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

and as for Mitch McConnel I don't know much about him, but even if he's as good as you say he is I don't believe one good man can fix the situation unless there's something I'm missing

Mitch was a cuck until it became crystal clear with Kavanaugh that the Democrats have brought out the knives and they will be glad to destroy anyone and everything to beat orange man, He was perfectly happy letting the Democrats rape the republican voter base through all of Obama's term, but Kavanaugh made it crystal clear that Trump winning basically triggered MAD from the Democrats and they will destroy themselves and republicans and anyone and everything to get to orange man.

That Scares him, and there is only one person he can go to for help.

 

[Maamtis]

I am amazed it's not at 85 percent at least for the Pro Trump For category given the numbers he is getting in the primaries for an incumbent.

And lol the 70 percent for is higher than the 60 percent against.

I think the media are underestimating just how much his supporters love the guy. A million tickets snapped up just to go see him talk. I can't see them not turning out in droves in November to vote for him. He'll be hard to beat even without the silent majority.

 

[TitanWest]

After 3 years though, my opinion of him has changed as now I see a president who has formed a non-interventionist ideology combined with tariffs and reducing immigration. Also another big threat is China, which needs to be dealt with as well. I never believed in the Russia collusion bullshit. His attempted actions are more left wing than the democrats such as reducing immigration for both legal and illegal as well as protectionism is something democrats used to do.

Trump's more non-interventionist than Hillary, but he killed Soleimani so he's as interventionist (If not more) as Obama. That killing setback anti-ISIS, anti-Neocon, and anti-Zionist efforts back bigtime.

What's Trump's record on immigration been like? I've heard he was opening up "legal immigration" with H1B's and EB5's, but I haven't seen any data to back that up.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Trump's more non-interventionist than Hillary, but he killed Soleimani so he's as interventionist (If not more) as Obama. That killing setback anti-ISIS, anti-Neocon, and anti-Zionist efforts back bigtime.

What's Trump's record on immigration been like? I've heard he was opening up "legal immigration" with H1B's and EB5's, but I haven't seen any data to back that up.

I made sure to stress that he is more peaceful when compared to Bush and Obama but that aside. Obama is the reason ISIS got out of control to begin with when he started the Arab Spring operation to take down Assad and Qaddafi. Obama killed Qaddafi which is why it is such a shithole and almost got very close to killing Assad. Trump on the other hand has allowed him to live. As for Solemani, the Iranians got too smug as they are if you ever met them in person. They also want the USA out of Iraq very aggressively. I support the USA out of Iraq as well but they are in a big hurry so that Iraq becomes their protectorate. I will take Trump at his word that he wants out of Iraq and Afghanistan and has made a few steps in that direction.

As for the immigration, its still up in the air what will truly be done about it. Tucker is against it and Kushner along with a few GOP Rinos are for it.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Trump's more non-interventionist than Hillary, but he killed Soleimani so he's as interventionist (If not more) as Obama. That killing setback anti-ISIS, anti-Neocon, and anti-Zionist efforts back bigtime.

What's Trump's record on immigration been like? I've heard he was opening up "legal immigration" with H1B's and EB5's, but I haven't seen any data to back that up.

LoL, Libya would like a word with you.

 

[heyitsmike]

Trump's more non-interventionist than Hillary, but he killed Soleimani so he's as interventionist (If not more) as Obama.

I just can't take you seriously. I can't. I really can't.