Kelly Lenza / LividLipids / softbodytendermind / ass_child / photopotamus - "Radical body liberationist”, Intentionally Repulsive, Uber woke middle-aged SJW influencer wannabe, doxed her former therapist for getting WLS, ate her way to heart failure

Lipids is reeeing and sharing confidential medical information about her therapist that she should have the sense to keep private out of respect. But it’s all about her!
How self centered can one person get? Someone else getting WLS does not mean you have to get it. Also, you know how bad of a friend/confidant Kelly is by how mad she is at her therapist for wanting to better her life. She’d rather that her therapist die an early and painful death rather than loose weight.
 
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I think trying to process what Kelly is mad about and people are agreeing with has messed up my head. I'm trying to collect my thoughts to type but I keep getting sucked back in trying to figure out how you could even...well, any of this really.

How is this woman for real. It's like weapons grade stupidity and entitlement and I feel more confused the more I try to understand it.

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How dare someone get a possibly life-saving elective surgery that violates Kelly Lenza's precious pErsoNaL vAlUeS? How dare they?

I wonder if fear of ending up like Lenza inspired the therapist on her way to WLS?

Oh wow, I see that awful, awful old bitch Marilyn Wann up in the comments. "She doesn't get to decide whether her choice is oppresive - you do." Of course she'd write something like that. In the narcissistic world of fat activists, every single thing must revolve around them, and their feelings. Nothing exists but in relation to themselves. Everything and everyone exists only in support or as a personal affront to them.


These people are utter poison. I don't think eating disorders are their problem so much as personality disorders.
 
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How dare someone get a possibly life-saving elective surgery that violates Kelly Lenza's precious pErsoNaL vAlUeS? How dare they?

I wonder if fear of ending up like Lenza inspired the therapist on her way to WLS?

Oh wow, I see that awful, awful old bitch Marilyn Wann up in the comments. "She doesn't get to decide whether her choice is oppresive - you do." Of course she'd write something like that. In the narcissistic world of fat activists, every single thing must revolve around them, and their feelings. Nothing exists but in relation to themselves. Everything and everyone exists only in support or as a personal affront to them.


These people are utter poison. I don't think eating disorders are their problem so much as personality disorders.
I think Kelly fits into the Cluster B personality disorder. She truly can’t comprehend anything that doesn’t involve herself and she uses other causes to prop herself up. Social justice to her isn’t about actually helping people in her case, it’s about looking better and more virtuous than everyone else while also having power over them.
 
I think Kelly fits into the Cluster B personality disorder. She truly can’t comprehend anything that doesn’t involve herself and she uses other causes to prop herself up. Social justice to her isn’t about actually helping people in her case, it’s about looking better and more virtuous than everyone else while also having power over them.

Seriously. They're all the same. Wann, Kelly, and check out that 'Jenn Cole' character in the third screencap. She's talking about her therapist's pregnancy and how her therapist discussed Jenn's feelings about it and made 'sure she felt safe and ok about it'. WTF? WTF is going in therapy world? Is this remotely normal? Literally treading on eggshells around a client over one's personal life because they may be deeply offended or pretend to be triggered over the fact their therapist got pregnant/got WLS, whatever. It's as if the client has some twisted power over the therapist. It sounds utterly ludicrous to me. It just solidfies my general impression that so much so-called 'therapy' is worthless and in fact counter-productive and gives certain types permission to milk their issues to wield power over others. Makes my skin crawl.

In contrast, a medical doctor has no truck with this kind of crawling over eggshells around patients.
 
I'd bet money that Kelly's therapist is so relieved to get rid of Kelly for a client. And maybe she doesn't want to refer Kelly to anyone else because she likes the other therapists she knows.

What is the point of going to therapy if you expect a therapist to reinforce your crazy ideas? The whole point of therapy is that you have messed up thinking about something and they are there to help you work through that so you can be rational about it. If you weren't screwed up, you wouldn't need therapy in the first place. It's not designed to be just a bitch session. It is designed to actually fix what's broken.
 
Holy shit, this is too rich. So Kelly acknowledges that it’s not cool at all to ask her therapist about her personal life, but then takes that information she shouldn’t have gotten and blasts it all over a toxic Facebook group. Sure hope nobody is able to figure out who the therapist is, because those hags would make her life hell.
I’m sure the therapist is going to be DEVASTATED that her “CPTSD” nightmare patient got buttmad enough to fire her. She was totally right to tell Kelly that therapists don’t live entirely in accord with their patients’ values all the time, because it’s so totally wacky and out of line to try to dig into your therapist’s personal life. Seems like Kelly uses her therapists as stand-in friends, because nobody can actually stand to be around her very long. Just look at her constant online posts- nobody interacts with her.

The whole Kelly/therapist thing reminds me of this guy from the show Hannibal:
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I'd bet money that Kelly's therapist is so relieved to get rid of Kelly for a client. And maybe she doesn't want to refer Kelly to anyone else because she likes the other therapists she knows.

What is the point of going to therapy if you expect a therapist to reinforce your crazy ideas? The whole point of therapy is that you have messed up thinking about something and they are there to help you work through that so you can be rational about it. If you weren't screwed up, you wouldn't need therapy in the first place. It's not designed to be just a bitch session. It is designed to actually fix what's broken.

The sad part about it is that we're living in an era where some mental health professionals make a living validating crazy people's ideas (presumably) for the effortless money. If some star-gendered troon with rainbow hair and shaved eyebrows walked into a therapists office fifty years ago, completely convinced that they were going to walk out with an easy rec for "top surgery" they would've been put in a padded cell. Nowadays gender dysphoria isn't even on the list of mental disorders so it isn't being treated as such and gender therapists are now just validation machines. I imagine it's the same with the HAES types and the therapists they choose to shove their middle-class wealth at.

I desperately want to think Kelly's therapist isn't somebody that's willing to shirk medical fact for conjecture, and judging from her decision to get WLS she likely isn't, but you really just can't ever tell these days.
 
I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this therapist thing. So she just expects her therapists to have all her views and live their lives as Kelly sees fit? Even if she doesn't like WLS, she cant make that decision for the therapist. It's not as if the topic of therapy will be the therapist sperging about her WLS or progress? I don't imagine she would even mention it unless Kelly pressed the issue (like she did this time). I guess Kelly just doesn't even want to SEE her get smaller? Perhaps Kelly was into her because "fellow fatty"? I have no idea.

WLS can be live saving/changing in some cases. She's not FA, she's just "skinny jealous" and resigned to her fate instead of realizing she COULD make it better. It's hard af but it's doable. Freaking hag.
 
Even if we assume that Kelly is correct that she is recovering from a restrictive eating disorder, the answer is not to do a 180 and scarf everything down without limits instead. That's just another type of disordered eating. The goal should be a healthy relationship with food.

She's so big on "setting boundaries" in personal relationships, yet she won't set any boundaries on her relationship with food. Even if she suffered a relapse and went back to restrictive eating, she honestly has plenty of time to fix that. She'd have to restrict for a long time to get to Ashley the Lich Queen levels of restrictive eating. I think it is perfectly safe for her put some boundaries on her food consumption. Especially if she is under the care of a therapist and doctor while she does it.

She's an addict who doesn't want to give up her drug. No different than a druggie who freaks out if the people they hang out with decide to get sober. And really, how dare she try to guilt her own therapist in an effort to control someone else's behavior. Therapy always teaches you that the only behavior you can control is your own. I'm betting that we see suicide baiting in an attempt to punish her therapist for not doing exactly what she wants her to do. Kelly is a massive bitch.
 
The outrageous hugboxing continues with the outrage over the Therapists supposed sin seeming to escalate with each comment. First people were suggesting livid should make her therapist write up a list of referrals to punish her. Reeee! Now someone is saying that her therapist is basically saying it would be better to be dead than to be like Kelly. That might actually be true, of course, but of course the therapist did nothing of the sort. She simply sent a generic letter advising her patients of time off for a medical procedure and yielded the information under Kelly lenza’s questioning. And Kelly went right to the Internet and spilled all the beans about her therapist’s confidential medical information. If someone lives close enough or knows livid well enough to guess or know who her therapist is, she’s just disclosed a whole bunch of information to the whole world I’m guessing the therapist would have wanted private. The therapist keeps her awful secrets why won’t she show her the same courtesy back? It may not be a HIPAA violation since Kelly is not the provider and this doesn’t involve insurance, but it damn sure is a violation of human decency.
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Yeah, if I were her therapist, I would definitely fire her as a patient. What she's doing is wholly inappropriate and obvs she's not taking to therapy if she thinks it is okay. I'm mad on the therapists' behalf.

ETA: and how is she being dishonest? Kelly asked and she told, which she was not even obligated to do, ffs. I hate these commenters.
 
Most cows fit into the Cluster B category. If these NPD/BPD/HPD cases actually sought therapy for their problems the pickins would be a lot more slim at these here farms.
Cluster Bs are notoriously resistant to treatment, and therapy rarely helps. Even if pushed into therapy, virtually all of our Cluster B cows would still be here.

Borderliners can, in less-severe cases, gain some ability to self-reflect and manage their own emotional states in therapy, but the difficulty in getting (and sticking with) that kind of therapy, from the rare professional who understands Borderliner drama and game-playing and is still willing to work with them, means most never get it. They do tend to mellow a bit with age, starting in their 30s, however.

Narcissists can't be helped because, in their minds, they are never wrong. They lack empathy, so they can't see others' points of view, or understand their feelings. They have wide mood swings, so they often get disgnosed as Bipolar (Russell Greer is an example), and may end up seeking help for snxiety or depression, but a therapist will never get to the core issue--which is their Narcissism.

Cluster Bs are broken in a profound way, and are essentially unfixable. It's pretty fucking tragic, when you think about it; as horrible and destructive as these people are, they didn't choose to be that way. Some interventions in childhood or early adolescence can help at-risk kids from developing a full-blown personality disorder, but you have to catch them as those behaviors and attitudes are emerging--and that just doesn't happen, most of the time.
 
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