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Isn't Ackbar getting the Stalin treatment because of Muslims?
Not that any have complained, but I think Disney is super paranoid about it's left flank.
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Not that any have complained, but I think Disney is super paranoid about it's left flank.
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and our special guest: Anthony Hopkins as Yoda
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Luke Skywalker has a magic talking Digimon that I did not know about? Was that in those Marvel Star Wars comics, because I remember one comic having a sentient mountain.
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Removing Ackbar because of Allahu Akbar would explain some things, but then again the only people that would complain about such a thing are white sjws who get mad on behalf of Muslims, while most Muslims would just get mad over Slave Leia or a character looking like Muhammad.
It's from Disney's The Adventures of Luke Skywalker novel and manga.
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Oh something to look forward to. /sarc
Finished the first story the other day. It is... not great. The art, while stylistic, didn't seem to be a very good fit and failed at being able to convey visually things that should have been conveyed visually.
The story centers around a major OCD imperial gunner. Then his ship crashes and he winds up on this desert planet that happens to be Jakku itself.
His escape pod is found by a mysterious figure(TM) who then drags the guy (who has broken both of his legs now). Various stuff happens with this cloaked, hooded figure helping this imperial officer. They reach this city. Then the star destroyer blows up and a ranging river of molten sand is flung at the city. I have no idea if this was supposed to be via the Force, or the thermals coming off the molten stuff, but the hooded figure fashions these shoes with some kind of pipes on the bottom, and then leads the entire city out where they all walk across the molten sands, hovering a few feet above them with these funky shoes.
Imperial gunner is then given a homing beacon so he can go back to the Empire - at which point he's horribly tortured and interrogated because Imperials were the real villains all along.
So let me now explain the punchline. The start of the story has the gunner repeatedly mistaking this holographic visual report on Luke Skywalker as the man himself (even nearly shooting at it once). Then during the journey on Jakku, he keeps suspecting and wondering if the hooded figure who "grew up on a desert planet" (which he admits to) is actually Luke Skywalker. At the very end he asks the figure if he is Luke and the figure replies, "We are all Luke Skywalker." -Note also that the figure's face had been hidden this entire time and this is the first and only time we see the man's face full on. The problem is, with the art style it's kind of hard to tell if this is supposed to confirm that it's Luke, or reveal that it's someone else.
Anyway, when the Officer then escapes his torture, the guy administrating the interrogation says something about, "You're him, aren't you? You're Luke Skywalker!"
That's literally where the book ends. And the main character even smiles directly into the camera and I think (again, hard with the art style) supposed to see him as visually like Luke.
His escape pod is found by a mysterious figure(TM) who then drags the guy (who has broken both of his legs now). Various stuff happens with this cloaked, hooded figure helping this imperial officer. They reach this city. Then the star destroyer blows up and a ranging river of molten sand is flung at the city. I have no idea if this was supposed to be via the Force, or the thermals coming off the molten stuff, but the hooded figure fashions these shoes with some kind of pipes on the bottom, and then leads the entire city out where they all walk across the molten sands, hovering a few feet above them with these funky shoes.
Imperial gunner is then given a homing beacon so he can go back to the Empire - at which point he's horribly tortured and interrogated because Imperials were the real villains all along.
So let me now explain the punchline. The start of the story has the gunner repeatedly mistaking this holographic visual report on Luke Skywalker as the man himself (even nearly shooting at it once). Then during the journey on Jakku, he keeps suspecting and wondering if the hooded figure who "grew up on a desert planet" (which he admits to) is actually Luke Skywalker. At the very end he asks the figure if he is Luke and the figure replies, "We are all Luke Skywalker." -Note also that the figure's face had been hidden this entire time and this is the first and only time we see the man's face full on. The problem is, with the art style it's kind of hard to tell if this is supposed to confirm that it's Luke, or reveal that it's someone else.
Anyway, when the Officer then escapes his torture, the guy administrating the interrogation says something about, "You're him, aren't you? You're Luke Skywalker!"
That's literally where the book ends. And the main character even smiles directly into the camera and I think (again, hard with the art style) supposed to see him as visually like Luke.
I think the author wanted to convey this idea of Luke being an inspirational figure, but it's a muddled mess. This mostly seems to arise from the author wanting to try too hard to preserve the reveal of the story into a "surprise" rather than what the story needs. Even for a manga, the entire tale is told inside the gunner's head. There's practically no dialog when this tale really needed the gunner and the hooded figure to converse, to have back and forths and disagreements.
This also gets into something we talked about on the Wendig thread. We were discussing a passage he wrote about how nobody can empathize with a character in a story unless that character is just like the reader. Everyone (and the source of the quote) all rightly tore Chuck a new one over this infantile point of view. I can't help but think of that during this tale, as if the author is convinced you can't be inspired or want to be LIKE a figure, you must want to BE that figure. Yeah - that's true of children, who are using play acting and role-play (not the dice kind) to help figure out themselves and the world, but once your self-identity starts to arise as a teenager or you become an adult, you should then be able to draw inspiration from others without worrying about literally being those people.
It also undercuts much of the drama when you have the "Rebellion" (because the mysterious figure is for all intents and purposes, a representations of the rebellion) making all the self-sacrifices for the protagonist, then the "Empire" literally tortures him upon his return. It's cartoonish. The protagonist himself undergoes no real character arc other than losing his loyalty, but again, the Empire tortured that out of him, essentially forcing him to change. The entire story is essentially about a halfway decent chap who was just lied to all this time and once he sees the truth about the system around him, resolves to abandon it in the most shallow, half-assed manner.
I like to grade a story by what it seems to be aiming for and how well did it accomplish it. In that manner, I'd give this a D. As for overall enjoyment, it's a C-. Barely competent on a technical level.
This also gets into something we talked about on the Wendig thread. We were discussing a passage he wrote about how nobody can empathize with a character in a story unless that character is just like the reader. Everyone (and the source of the quote) all rightly tore Chuck a new one over this infantile point of view. I can't help but think of that during this tale, as if the author is convinced you can't be inspired or want to be LIKE a figure, you must want to BE that figure. Yeah - that's true of children, who are using play acting and role-play (not the dice kind) to help figure out themselves and the world, but once your self-identity starts to arise as a teenager or you become an adult, you should then be able to draw inspiration from others without worrying about literally being those people.
It also undercuts much of the drama when you have the "Rebellion" (because the mysterious figure is for all intents and purposes, a representations of the rebellion) making all the self-sacrifices for the protagonist, then the "Empire" literally tortures him upon his return. It's cartoonish. The protagonist himself undergoes no real character arc other than losing his loyalty, but again, the Empire tortured that out of him, essentially forcing him to change. The entire story is essentially about a halfway decent chap who was just lied to all this time and once he sees the truth about the system around him, resolves to abandon it in the most shallow, half-assed manner.
I like to grade a story by what it seems to be aiming for and how well did it accomplish it. In that manner, I'd give this a D. As for overall enjoyment, it's a C-. Barely competent on a technical level.
Again, there seems to be no guiding voice at Lucasfilm now. While @Cyril Sneer and I can argue about the execution, the idea is that the Jedi as an order is dying in the Prequels, dead in the Originals, and supposed to be reborn in the sequels. That's why the final film was called RETURN of the JEDI.
That's at least the most obvious thread the story ignores. It shouldn't be "we are all Luke Skywalker" but "we are all Jedi" with the order returning to its glory and respectability in the galaxy. Instead this story (and other Disney stuff) almost implies like they want to do away completely with "the Jedi" and replace it all with "Luke Skywalkers" - which makes little sense given how much they shit on him too.
That's at least the most obvious thread the story ignores. It shouldn't be "we are all Luke Skywalker" but "we are all Jedi" with the order returning to its glory and respectability in the galaxy. Instead this story (and other Disney stuff) almost implies like they want to do away completely with "the Jedi" and replace it all with "Luke Skywalkers" - which makes little sense given how much they shit on him too.
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As far as I know "Akbar" just means "Great." One of the Mughal Emperors is known as "Akbar the Great" meaning, I guess, "Great the Great." By all accounts he was pretty cool. It's a brand of tea, numerous restaurants, and a gay bar. I've never heard of a Muslim cleric objecting to the word.
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Do you really expect SJWs to be that informed or aware of other cultures?
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I always thought that Admiral Ackbar was a play on words based on the arabic origin of the word admiral.
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GoodBadFlicks is back! With his exploration of Disney's first "star wars" film.
And by that, I mean a film that was saved and produced by the studio after Star Wars was the mega hit.
And by that, I mean a film that was saved and produced by the studio after Star Wars was the mega hit.
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The “wooden” look of the characters was intended as a tribute to Gerry Anderson’s productions. Aladdin’s Rebels just looks wooden.
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It was referred to as far back as the first run of comics after Star Wars came out that the Emperor was racist, and in Heir to the Empire, it is said outright that Thrawn rising to the rank of Grand Admiral was a testament to him being a truly brilliant ship commander because a non-human was rarely even promoted to deck crew, let alone a command rank.
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Didn’t know that it emerged in the comics, though I knew that Thrawn was discriminated against. I just don’t know if Lucas originally thought that the Empire would be all human.
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Yeah, there's that one Imperial officer in the Death Star's Detention Level who refers to Chewie as "this...thing," but that's pretty much it, and it's counterbalanced by Princess Leia irritably referring to the Wookiee as a "walking carpet."
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I just realized something; how the fuck did everyone get clean after escaping the garbage pit? Chewie would have been not just a walking carpet, but another “incredible smell”.
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So, they released gameplay footage of Squadrons. This game seems VERY influenced by X-Wing/Tie Fighter series. This is clearly not a Rogue Squadron game in any fashion.
Which poses potentional problems:
A) Ship handling with a controller. Probably, the most critical aspect...
B)Working your subsystems/targeting without a keyboard. Specifically, stuff like sensors...
C)Cockpit tunnel vision(those without V/R)...
I do appreciate giving some love to those flight sims. I just don't know how it will translate on the consoles. Granted, you have very sophisticated space sims, like 'Elite Dangerous', that can translate.
But, this is a different animal...
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Its definitely not looking promising. Those flight sims were amazing, but that shit just won't translate well in they way they're thinking. Especially today, and even more so with only a 5 player limit on both sides and only 4 fucking ships to choose from for each side.
The fucking host looks like he was about to cry when he said Black Lives Matter. No doubt they'll use that shit as a shield against criticism. They'll sprinkle some woke shit around the advertising and presentations to put blame on discrimination should this shit fail or get too much negative feedback, that way they'll at least get a good pay off from investors.
Also HOLY FUCKING SHIT, Rae Sloane the black Thrawn from A New Dawn and the Aftermath trainwreck is in this shit along with one of the characters from Alphabet Squadron. FUCKing shit now everyone's going to be defending those crap piles again.
... I don't even... This is the best main villain design they could do...?
Wait... is this a man or a woman?
Fuck, the ratings are better here. And the comments are 80% "don't tell me the odds"...
Also I'm sensing a lot of corny in-game purchases...
All in all, this feels like it was originally designed for VR before moving it to consoles. But I have to ask why they felt the need to include U-Wings, Afermath, Filoni and Alphabet Squadron references? Can't Disney just learn to keep things standalone? This ain't the fucking MCU. Yes, I get they want to remind us that they own this shit, but please just stop.
Oh fuck I need bleach.
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You have a strange way of saying "bots". Because I don't see "everyone" ever talk about these shitty books, I see "bots" myself. Especially on twitter or sites where they clearly just hijack it.
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The asian imperial lady looks like Gohan Gozer...
I can overlook all the stupid tie in's, if this game actually plays well...
There is a chance they could do it but it would take some serious controller mapping and playtesting...
I can overlook all the stupid tie in's, if this game actually plays well...
There is a chance they could do it but it would take some serious controller mapping and playtesting...
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Can we please stop making these people ugly and boring as fuck for once?
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I feel like I should add that I do like the fact that they've added more playable aliens as an option, which was something a lot of past games even before Disney were in desperate need of. But considering the nature of the game, you'll hardly ever see your character in action outside of a barely interactive social hub, so there's not much of a point really.
Almost every SW community (even those I was a part of) have fallen for the Disney bait, even old IRC channels, all SW related forums, and even the 4chan threads have been hijacked by Disney shills and even people and friends I've known for years just up and turned their backs on everything to slob Disney's knob. Even the Russian Star Wars imageboard is nothing but Disney wankery. The only upside is that after Disney's crap most of those communities pretty much lost half their activity, only having a sudden rise now because of Filoni Wars' damn final season which brought in nothing but waifuism. The biggest hypocrisy is when they adamantly defended Disney when they took over and shat on anything that came before Disney (despite consuming it themselves until it was no longer trending) but then happily praising or turning a blind eye when Disney pulled the exact same shit or did something worse, but they just can't admit that they were hypocrites or obsessed with popular trends and empty online hype. Like people who bitch about the Vong yet get eagerly excited for Disney's Grysk story arc and hope they do what the Vong did but worse. Or people who bitched about the Thrawn trilogy being overrated yet then cream their pants and screamed in hype when he showed up in Rebels. I just hope the masses just end up rejecting Disney's shit entirely at some point and these soy chugging consoomers implode in on themselves. Problem is that hatred for the old was deeply rooted in people after the Disney buyout and now people are losing general interest altogether and the communities will all end up dead, what with old fans either converting to Disney diehards or most moving onto 40k day by day. It bums me out that this could've been an era of less novels and more visual content and adaptations where old characters finally got a chance to shine alongside new ones but instead people just shit on everything while fawning over their cheaper Disney knockoffs.
Expect to see more of this in media out of spite, especially if the Last of Us 2 is anything to go by. That game and others like it could flop but they'll still keep on repeating the same mistakes as long as they believe that they're teaching a lesson to society.
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