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Don't remember Crash or Jak having much of this.

The guitar is made by a company called Taylor. They're known for being high quality. The model is a Taylor 314ce Grand Auditorium. This seems to just be their usual 314ce with darker wood. The price looks like it at least fits in with Taylor's usual pricing. Whoever chose Taylor to make this wanted something good to come out of this.
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Hopefully the people buying this actually play guitar.
$2,299 is pretty standard for a mid-high end guitar.
 
How many people, who are actually into the guitar enough to the point they're shell out 2K for one when there's a lot of good shit under 500, will buy the gimmick guitar because of a mixed-reviews at best video game?
IDK, there's probably collectors, elitists who buy guitars for the name on the headstock, and super autists who swear that this guitar sounds and feels the best.
 
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One of the things that annoy me about the defenders is this argument:

"Why are you complaining about Ellie losing? That's just like real life! Not everyone can win and it's like realistic man. That's what makes this game so deep!"

The thing is, to think life is exactly what the people are in this game? That would be like spending every sunless minute at a funeral. We may live in a confusing world, but it doesn't mean everyone is in a perpetual gloomy frown that's just waiting to backstab their own kin. That is unrealistic! Most people would look out for even complete strangers when the going goes rough for everybody.

With that said, there is nothing deep about this at all. If it were "deep", it would have a meaning or message to put out. The only message we got, as pointed by a relative of mine, was:
"The moral is don't mess with tranny or she bites your fingers off!"
 
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This might be a little OT and rant-y, but do any of you have parents who game or used to game?

My dad is a huge fan of Assasin's Creed and games like that, he's not into "horror" so he never played The Last Of Us.
I wonder what he would say if he played the second game.
I really wonder what the whole 'older' (literal boomer) generation who didn't yet get confronted with all the tranny madness would think about this game.
 
This might be a little OT and rant-y, but do any of you have parents who game or used to game?

My dad is a huge fan of Assasin's Creed and games like that, he's not into "horror" so he never played The Last Of Us.
I wonder what he would say if he played the second game.
I really wonder what the whole 'older' (literal boomer) generation who didn't yet get confronted with all the tranny madness would think about this game.
My dad gamed a little as a kid. Think he had an Intellivision. Last time he gamed was Rampage Total Destruction. No idea how he'd react to the sex scene.
 
SJW stuff aside, I've been watching videos on it a little and the facial animations are godawful. Mass effect andromeda had better facial animations. One of the scenes I saw was some tranny looking woman being told her boyfriend(?) got someone pregnant, and her mouth twisted in such an unnatural way. Its gross looking.

Plus some of this writing rivals "life is strange" in cringey melodrama.
 
There's no solid sales figure numbers out there. Nothing even relating to units shipped.

If going by current registered player count on tracking sites and going by PSN trophy attaining %'s you can get the average ratios if you start comparing it to other games.

It's still looking like it will squeak by 3 million copies sold for the first few days. Unless day 2 sees a massive drop off but it would need to be pretty major like 4/5ths of the audience stops playing. But the total number of players have been steadily rising and not decreasing.
 
Something I was thinking of while going to sleep, after stopping watching the game once you're forced to play Abby's backstory.

So ok, they were trying to build Ellie up to the realisation that revenge killing isn't satisfying, but there's just such a massive, visceral disconnect between the gameplay and the cut scenes, or idk I guess they're "boss fights" in a way. During regular gameplay Ellie is killing dozens of people, who might also be pregnant, who might have kids and families, who are way more innocent as far as Joel's murder goes than those people she shows remorse about, yet... there's no emotional reaction at all. Not during, when they could have included some comments since they don't shy away from it otherwise, not after, no, it's only those people who killed Joel that she feels bad about killing... enough to actually let go the one person that's responsible, so all that previous killing is rendered moot.

The game should have ended where Abby catches them at the cinema, Jesse gets killed, Ellie shoots on instinct and kills her. Or instead of forcing us to play as fucking Abby, then idk needing to defend Jackson while Ellie is suffering from trauma, or as someone else suggested, Ellie setting out into the world to look for someone trying to find a cure, to make up for what Joel did and as a redemption for herself.
 
Seems kinda ironic to have a theme of REVENGE IS BAD but make a game plot this retarded out of spite and vengeance against your prime audience.

SJWs lack any self awareness or self reflection.

These are the same people who in the same breath will complain about hurtful words and harassment and then call guys basement dwellers, neckbeards, incels etc etc
 
I didn't play the first one and have no attachment to it so this one being an absolute shitshow is extra hilarious. It's like Mass Effect: Andromeda all over again. I mean, I feel for ya if you really loved TLoU and were really looking forward to a sequel, but at the same time...pass the popcorn.

And I don't think the developers would quite agree with the "revenge is bad" narrative if Joel's killer had been wearing a MAGA hat and giving the stink eye to some old Indian dude.
 
SJWs lack any self awareness or self reflection.

These are the same people who in the same breath will complain about hurtful words and harassment and then call guys basement dwellers, neckbeards, incels etc etc
They've taken virtues like tolerance and equality and weaponized them to justify cruelty to people they dislike because literally treating everyone as humans is too hard for them.
 
Wall of text, but here's someone from TV Tropes who fully enjoyed the game and its story:


"Ever get the feeling that you're not in the minority of a public opinion? I feel like Grimdark Magazine's review is going to be this way because the rating I'm giving The Last of Us 2 is a very high one. 9 out of 10 and it would be higher if not for the fact that it is being compared to its predecessor. I'm a fan of the gameplay, the visuals, the stories, and the characters. The game is a real gut punch in places but that's exactly what the developers were going for and they achieve it. I'm going to talk about what I think some of the reviewers have a problem with and also why I think it makes the game better (at least to grimdark fans).

One thing to discuss before we begin with is the fact that this is a direct continuation of The Last of Us, which is a bit different than a sequel. Many of the themes, ideas, and storytelling beats depend on you having a familiarity with the first game. If you're unfamiliar with The Last of Us, you basically shouldn't play this game. That's not necessarily the case with many other franchises as nothing really hurts you if you play Uncharted 2 or Dragon Age 2 separately from the first game. If you want to play The Last of Us 2, boot up the original game and play it first. If you don't care, then I'm going to spoil the hell out of the first game and how it relates to the continuation below.

Do you consider yourself warned?

Okay then.

The ending of The Last of Us is a delicious use of what literature teachers like I used to be call Dramatic Irony. Joel and Ellie travel across a post-apocalypse Earth overrun with fungus zombies (called cordyceps) in order to deliver the latter to a group of scientist-terrorists called the Fireflies. Ellie is the sole human immune to the zombie plague and in her brain lies the secret to the cure. The Fireflies then reveal that in order to make the cure, they have to chop up poor 14-year-old Ellie's brain. Joel, in a fit of paternal instinct, murders all of them and carries Ellie away to a walled town called Jacksonville. It's one of the best endings of all time and equally one of the most controversial because both sides believe they're the right side.

Before we continue, I should state I'm with Joel and I hate every one of the Fireflies with a passion reserved for Walder Frey or the Southern Union in Mafia III. If you subscribe to Utilitarianism, then it's a perfectly valid decision to chop up a little girl to save the world. If you don't, then they're a bunch of murderers. A lot of good science fiction has been made from this very premise including Cold Equations and Those Who Walk Away From Omelas. Joel's act that restores his humanity is the same act that may doom humanity but I don't remotely condemn it.

The game picks up immediately after this as Joel does his best to reconnect with Ellie despite the gulf existing between them. Eventually, Joel manages to win her over and they forge a life together as father/daughter. Unfortunately, Joel can't escape from his actions and he's eventually tracked down by a girl named Abby (Laura Bailey) along with her friends. They're here for revenge on the sonofabitch who murdered all the Fireflies. I won't spoil what happens next but Ellie proceeds on a mission to murder Abby and her friends in a decidedly cyclical act of revenge.

In simple terms, I love this story and it reminds me a lot of the Coen Brothers' version of True Grit. The Last of Us and post-apocalypse stories in general are very often reskinned Westerns. Hell, the title of my second most famous book is Cthulhu Armageddon: A Post-Apocalypse Western. I'm very much a fan of the latter incarnations of the Western like Unforgiven that highlight the hero being barely any better than the quarry they seek. Ellie's survival in the rough and tumble world of the fallen United States has meant she's become more like Joel than the child she used to be. I like that as it resonates me a lot with the same sort of themes that I enjoyed in the early seasons of The Walking Dead.

Part of what makes the story work for me is that we do get to follow Abby enough to understand that, essentially, she and Ellie are identical. Both of them are daddy-loving down-home girls who are forging their lives as best they can in the hellscape they've found themselves in. They settle on murdering the people who ruined their families, only to bring holy hell down each other's lives as more people get involved in their vendetta. If you have any knowledge whatsoever of blood feuds in real life such as the kind that afflicted Sicily, Albania, or other nations then this is very true to life. Real life rarely works like John Wick. It's much more like Taken 2 where you find out that even scumbags have friends, family, and loved ones.

Some reviewers have expressed a disdain for the game's narrative as a whole. They dislike Ellie's journey from being an adorable innocent (which she never was) to someone who is willing to commit murder to avenge her loved ones. They also dislike the fact that Ellie very consciously chooses revenge over building a life for herself as well as other survivors. There's also the fact that Ellie is an LGBT+ protagonist, one of the few in modern gaming, who goes through nine different kinds of hell to enact dreadful retribution on those who wronged her. Honestly, I think it's a credit to Naughty Dog that they gave such a meaty story to not only a woman but a queer one. Arya Stark is beloved because she's Death's Chosen, not because she was a sweetie pie. Though she was both now that I think about it.

Gameplay-wise, the game is fine. It's pretty much The Last of Us with the addition of the fact that Ellie can now swim. There's a bigger focus on human enemies than there is on the cordyceps but I'm fine with that. This isn't a game about the fungus apocalypse but the effects on humanity after the survivors have managed to weather the worst of it. I think humanity will survive without a vaccine but it's because we've become a bunch of hardass brutal survivors. We just have to keep the Ellies and Abbys of the world from killing each other. Visually, the game is gorgeous and a lot of it is just going to be you stopping to look at the "Fallout 4 if it was real" natural beauty.

So ignore the naysayers and pick this up if you don't mind a pair of blooded cold-blooded killer gals on a mission to take the other out. I certainly don't.

Honestly, I was expecting to not enjoy it. The vitriol was pretty horrible up to this point but it seemed a pretty straight forward Gray-and-Gray Morality revenge story.

I think a lot of people seemed angry because Ellie is becoming as violent and awful a person as Joel but...what else would she be? Mind you, I always felt that the High Chaos ending of Dishonored where your daughter learns the lesson of "murder the shit out of your enemies" wasn't necessarily a BAD one.

I could be the wrong audience for this."

Thoughts?
 
Wall of text, but here's someone from TV Tropes who fully enjoyed the game and its story:


"Ever get the feeling that you're not in the minority of a public opinion? I feel like Grimdark Magazine's review is going to be this way because the rating I'm giving The Last of Us 2 is a very high one. 9 out of 10 and it would be higher if not for the fact that it is being compared to its predecessor. I'm a fan of the gameplay, the visuals, the stories, and the characters. The game is a real gut punch in places but that's exactly what the developers were going for and they achieve it. I'm going to talk about what I think some of the reviewers have a problem with and also why I think it makes the game better (at least to grimdark fans).

One thing to discuss before we begin with is the fact that this is a direct continuation of The Last of Us, which is a bit different than a sequel. Many of the themes, ideas, and storytelling beats depend on you having a familiarity with the first game. If you're unfamiliar with The Last of Us, you basically shouldn't play this game. That's not necessarily the case with many other franchises as nothing really hurts you if you play Uncharted 2 or Dragon Age 2 separately from the first game. If you want to play The Last of Us 2, boot up the original game and play it first. If you don't care, then I'm going to spoil the hell out of the first game and how it relates to the continuation below.

Do you consider yourself warned?

Okay then.

The ending of The Last of Us is a delicious use of what literature teachers like I used to be call Dramatic Irony. Joel and Ellie travel across a post-apocalypse Earth overrun with fungus zombies (called cordyceps) in order to deliver the latter to a group of scientist-terrorists called the Fireflies. Ellie is the sole human immune to the zombie plague and in her brain lies the secret to the cure. The Fireflies then reveal that in order to make the cure, they have to chop up poor 14-year-old Ellie's brain. Joel, in a fit of paternal instinct, murders all of them and carries Ellie away to a walled town called Jacksonville. It's one of the best endings of all time and equally one of the most controversial because both sides believe they're the right side.

Before we continue, I should state I'm with Joel and I hate every one of the Fireflies with a passion reserved for Walder Frey or the Southern Union in Mafia III. If you subscribe to Utilitarianism, then it's a perfectly valid decision to chop up a little girl to save the world. If you don't, then they're a bunch of murderers. A lot of good science fiction has been made from this very premise including Cold Equations and Those Who Walk Away From Omelas. Joel's act that restores his humanity is the same act that may doom humanity but I don't remotely condemn it.

The game picks up immediately after this as Joel does his best to reconnect with Ellie despite the gulf existing between them. Eventually, Joel manages to win her over and they forge a life together as father/daughter. Unfortunately, Joel can't escape from his actions and he's eventually tracked down by a girl named Abby (Laura Bailey) along with her friends. They're here for revenge on the sonofabitch who murdered all the Fireflies. I won't spoil what happens next but Ellie proceeds on a mission to murder Abby and her friends in a decidedly cyclical act of revenge.

In simple terms, I love this story and it reminds me a lot of the Coen Brothers' version of True Grit. The Last of Us and post-apocalypse stories in general are very often reskinned Westerns. Hell, the title of my second most famous book is Cthulhu Armageddon: A Post-Apocalypse Western. I'm very much a fan of the latter incarnations of the Western like Unforgiven that highlight the hero being barely any better than the quarry they seek. Ellie's survival in the rough and tumble world of the fallen United States has meant she's become more like Joel than the child she used to be. I like that as it resonates me a lot with the same sort of themes that I enjoyed in the early seasons of The Walking Dead.

Part of what makes the story work for me is that we do get to follow Abby enough to understand that, essentially, she and Ellie are identical. Both of them are daddy-loving down-home girls who are forging their lives as best they can in the hellscape they've found themselves in. They settle on murdering the people who ruined their families, only to bring holy hell down each other's lives as more people get involved in their vendetta. If you have any knowledge whatsoever of blood feuds in real life such as the kind that afflicted Sicily, Albania, or other nations then this is very true to life. Real life rarely works like John Wick. It's much more like Taken 2 where you find out that even scumbags have friends, family, and loved ones.

Some reviewers have expressed a disdain for the game's narrative as a whole. They dislike Ellie's journey from being an adorable innocent (which she never was) to someone who is willing to commit murder to avenge her loved ones. They also dislike the fact that Ellie very consciously chooses revenge over building a life for herself as well as other survivors. There's also the fact that Ellie is an LGBT+ protagonist, one of the few in modern gaming, who goes through nine different kinds of hell to enact dreadful retribution on those who wronged her. Honestly, I think it's a credit to Naughty Dog that they gave such a meaty story to not only a woman but a queer one. Arya Stark is beloved because she's Death's Chosen, not because she was a sweetie pie. Though she was both now that I think about it.

Gameplay-wise, the game is fine. It's pretty much The Last of Us with the addition of the fact that Ellie can now swim. There's a bigger focus on human enemies than there is on the cordyceps but I'm fine with that. This isn't a game about the fungus apocalypse but the effects on humanity after the survivors have managed to weather the worst of it. I think humanity will survive without a vaccine but it's because we've become a bunch of hardass brutal survivors. We just have to keep the Ellies and Abbys of the world from killing each other. Visually, the game is gorgeous and a lot of it is just going to be you stopping to look at the "Fallout 4 if it was real" natural beauty.

So ignore the naysayers and pick this up if you don't mind a pair of blooded cold-blooded killer gals on a mission to take the other out. I certainly don't.

Honestly, I was expecting to not enjoy it. The vitriol was pretty horrible up to this point but it seemed a pretty straight forward Gray-and-Gray Morality revenge story.

I think a lot of people seemed angry because Ellie is becoming as violent and awful a person as Joel but...what else would she be? Mind you, I always felt that the High Chaos ending of Dishonored where your daughter learns the lesson of "murder the shit out of your enemies" wasn't necessarily a BAD one.

I could be the wrong audience for this."

Thoughts?
They're trying to correct the mistakes the author made and when they're not, they're trying to justify them by assuming the authors who wrote TLOU2 are gods with infinite knowledge of all the literature in the world.
 
Even my woke, gay brother hates this shit because it portrays trans people as violent murderers and called the writer a piece of shit. Neil Druckmann has failed on all accounts and might as well kill himself at this point.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
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C.T. Phipps

charlie_the_cat_pooka @ yahoo.com I’m sure he’d love the discourse.

His post history on Scrolls of Lore, wooh 🔥, there are some hot takes around page ten.
https://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/search.php?searchid=4123939

Edit: He goes by Charles Phipps, Willow Hugger and Zeranion (Unsure)
I was able to connect him to the last one only by birth date and age though, that last one is active in spacebattles roleplay and was obsessed with some anime called Code Geass. Possibly into incest.

https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1329540/Shadow-Zeranion

https://www.deviantart.com/shadowdragonsliver

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/members/zeranion.1293/#recent-content

No cuck, tranny or scat porn history, I'm disappointed.

Charles Thomas Phipps | Ashland, Kentucky
Phone Number: 606-325-6912, 606-329-2957, (Unsure (606) 369-4989, (606) 922-6958 )
Addresses: 2655 Iroquois Ave, Ashland, KY ; 1130 Poplar Ave, Ashland, KY
Relatives: Tiffanie Phipps, Betty J Phipps, Thomas C Phipps,
Email: charlie_th**********@yahoo.com
Work Email: t*@zoom.net

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