The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

Honestly it doesn't even seem like he's that interested in making a good show anymore. I suspect he's just working on it so he can say he made a cartoon, or at least tried. Let's be real, if he ever does make an episode, it's going to be another Party Panic situation where he later realizes it's complete shit but at that point he'll have the pride that comes with producing *something* in animated form.

Speaking of games, looks like he's stalling again with that 1000 Games You Must Play list. Still only up to entry #2 for a while now.

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He always does this shit. Gets an idea for a series he thinks is cool, then after two or three installments he immediately gets bored of it and moves on to something else. Autistic hyper-focus at it's most disappointing. That's why I'm certain that, even if he had the money and the basic ability to make his cartoon, he wouldn't get past three episodes before abandoning the project out of sheer boredom. That's why I'm so baffled that he's waiting for his 175-episode plan to be 100% perfect before even starting production on the first episode. If all his plans goes smoothly, then nothing is exciting, and when any of his projects no longer excite him, they're instantly dead in the water. He clearly understands this about himself when discussing projects he's abandoned in the past, so why does he continue to make the exact same mistakes, as if THIS project is going to be any different?

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

He always does this shit. Gets an idea for a series he thinks is cool, then after two or three installments he immediately gets bored of it and moves on to something else. Autistic hyper-focus at it's most disappointing. That's why I'm certain that, even if he had the money and the basic ability to make his cartoon, he wouldn't get past three episodes before abandoning the project out of sheer boredom. That's why I'm so baffled that he's waiting for his 175-episode plan to be 100% perfect before even starting production on the first episode. If all his plans goes smoothly, then nothing is exciting, and when any of his projects no longer excite him, they're instantly dead in the water. He clearly understands this about himself when discussing projects he's abandoned in the past, so why does he continue to make the exact same mistakes, as if THIS project is going to be any different?

It's eqaully baffling when you consider that this is one of his biggest stated reasons for not wanting to go to college. If you're afraid you can't maintain interest in what you want to do in life for four years at a minimum, how are you going to manage a show that will take just as long if not longer to complete? All while putting out reviews.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

I mean, dude's been obsessed with GA for five or six years now, clearly he is capable of sticking with something for four years at least. It's just an excuse so that he doesn't have to do anything that would actually improve himself.

 

[CoconutCat]

Speaking of games, looks like he's stalling again with that 1000 Games You Must Play list. Still only up to entry #2 for a while now.

I wish Enter would just shut up about that God damn 1001 games book. I get it, it's a bad book. He could have made his point with ONE blog post, but instead, he decided to drag it on and on with multiple blog posts and multiple projects until it was beaten to the ground. I thought him doing his own community list would FINALLY be the end of it, but then he started this shit. Just let it fucking go, Enter.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

I mean, dude's been obsessed with GA for five or six years now, clearly he is capable of sticking with something for four years at least. It's just an excuse so that he doesn't have to do anything that would actually improve himself.

That's because he keeps finding new approaches and new angles to make it engaging for himself. That's why we get several scripts in a row about random tertiary characters, then several scripts in a row about torturing parents, then several scripts in a row with crossdressing. He says he's not writing them in chronological order, but that's because he wants to write out every possibility with one topic before moving on to the next, then he can claim it's part of his grand story arc by spreading out each of those "single topic" episodes so there are only two or three of them per season, making the obsessive and hyper-focused pace of his scripts completely different from the "Imma do it right" pacing of the show itself.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

I mean, dude's been obsessed with GA for five or six years now, clearly he is capable of sticking with something for four years at least. It's just an excuse so that he doesn't have to do anything that would actually improve himself.

And how many episodes has he re-written multiple times?

 

[coach_mclurk]

And how many episodes has he re-written multiple times?

There was the original pilot draft #1, #2, #3, #3.1, #3.2, a complete rewrite of the pilot, another draft, a gold version, a finished version, and there should be at least one more if only to fix the numerous typos and glaring flaws but he said the first 6 or so episodes are 100% done. Besides that, when he's not writing season 3 or 6 stuff, he goes back and fixes up old scripts a little.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

I wish Enter would just shut up about that God damn 1001 games book. I get it, it's a bad book. He could have made his point with ONE blog post, but instead, he decided to drag it on and on with multiple blog posts and multiple projects until it was beaten to the ground. I thought him doing his own community list would FINALLY be the end of it, but then he started this shit. Just let it fucking go, Enter.

What about his obsession with Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories? The game he hates but for some reason wanted to beat, yet he couldn’t.

 

[BlueCandle]

I’m actually quite fascinated that such a doomer conservative could somehow pied piper his way into assembling a team of tumblr level sjw types into not only working for him, but adoring the ground he stands on. I guess that’s the power of being a mid-tier cartoon reviewer on YouTube.

 

[The Pink Panther]

a doomer milquetoast center-leftie with principles

ftfy

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

I’m actually quite fascinated that such a doomer conservative could somehow pied piper his way into assembling a team of tumblr level sjw types into not only working for him, but adoring the ground he stands on. I guess that’s the power of being a mid-tier cartoon reviewer on YouTube.

No, my friend, that’s the power of autism.

If there’s one thing, I’ve learn about people like Enter, it’s that spergs attract more spergs.

 

[LiquidKid]

No, my friend, that’s the power of autism.

If there’s one thing, I’ve learn about people like Enter, it’s that spergs attract more spergs.

it’s pretty obvious why it happened. Part of it is autism, 5 minutes into those live streams and I wanted to slap every one of those aspies. But a big part is the game angle. Enter is just barely not a nobody, and that makes him a somebody to them. Even though they feel they have talent as artists, they know that they’re too autistic and awkward to get a following in their own. So to them, enter is the only way they can succeed. Depressing, but that’s what keeps them loyal. And why the few that fucked off haven’t done much

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

It's been quiet around here. What's the Discord server up to?

Over-explaining mundane shit again? Look, it's not rocket science. If there's any trace of evidence that the story happened, it's canon. If there's proof the story couldn't possibly happen, it's non-canon. Half-canon or "sort of canon" is literally impossible and to say otherwise makes you look like a pretentious fuck. "It's canon, but they won't remember all the details" is a completely reasonable answer.

 

[BlueCandle]

Has he ever actually responded in character in thst stupid ‘ask a character’ room he has set up, or does he still keep responding like an asshole whenever anyone asks?

 

[The Last Stand]

It's been quiet around here. What's the Discord server up to?
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Over-explaining mundane shit again? Look, it's not rocket science. If there's any trace of evidence that the story happened, it's canon. If there's proof the story couldn't possibly happen, it's non-canon. Half-canon or "sort of canon" is literally impossible and to say otherwise makes you look like a pretentious fuck. "It's canon, but they won't remember all the details" is a completely reasonable answer.

Your lore is so convoluted and confusing, even the creator can't make up his mind. That's bad writing.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

Has he ever actually responded in character in thst stupid ‘ask a character’ room he has set up, or does he still keep responding like an asshole whenever anyone asks?

Either the character's unavailable, or their answer is so vague and easy to backpedal that they may as well be unavailable.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Has he ever actually responded in character in thst stupid ‘ask a character’ room he has set up, or does he still keep responding like an asshole whenever anyone asks?

There are three possible answers when you try to ask a character.
1. (the most common) The character is 'unavailable'.
2. Enter acts like a jackass and tells you to stop asking questions.
3. An answer is given, but it is so vague it may as well never have been said.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

It's been quiet around here. What's the Discord server up to?
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Over-explaining mundane shit again? Look, it's not rocket science. If there's any trace of evidence that the story happened, it's canon. If there's proof the story couldn't possibly happen, it's non-canon. Half-canon or "sort of canon" is literally impossible and to say otherwise makes you look like a pretentious fuck. "It's canon, but they won't remember all the details" is a completely reasonable answer.

I don't know what he was thinking a crossover episode would add to Growing Around. Especially a crossover episode with a show that like his, has yet to exist.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

I don't know what he was thinking a crossover episode would add to Growing Around. Especially a crossover episode with a show that like his, has yet to exist.

It's just another checkmark on the list of things that all his favorite shows tends to do, whether those things are good or not. Random crossover between shows that have literally no chemistry and only exist because the showrunners like each other and the executives love a good ratings trap? Checka-fuckin-roony! Crossovers like that are acceptable when the show is primarily a comedy and your suspension of disbelief is an easy given, but I thought "Growing Around" was meant to be taken a little more seriously than that. Did Enter learn nothing from the time Steven Universe met Uncle Grandpa?

 

[CoconutCat]

You know, a lot of people seem to assume that Growing Around is meant to be Enter's utopia - a place where he's free to be a manchild, while actual adults like his parents are abused relentlessly - but I actually don't think that's the intention. Looking through his other content, he doesn't seem to value children's autonomy more than anyone else, and in some cases, he seems to value it less. In fact, in his COPPA video, he goes as far as to support the notion that it should be illegal for anyone under 13 to watch YouTube.

When trying to understand why Enter is doing something, we need to remember who we're dealing with. This is the same person who said Growing Around was supposed to teach kids that it's okay to grow up, even though that moral is fundamentally incompatible with the premise. It's the same person who wrote an episode about fighting sexism that was all about characters fighting to be put into stereotypes. It's the same person who tried to write an episode about how swearing isn't that bad, but ended up describing full-blown slurs instead. It's the person who tried to write an episode on how masculinity is good that still somehow ended up with the masculine role model wearing a dress.

By assuming that Growing Around is Enter's personal utopia, you also make the incorrect assumption that Enter actually knows how to create something on purpose - that Enter would be able to deliberately turn his utopia into a shitty concept for a cartoon. I don't think he seriously thinks kids should rule the world. He's always saying how Growing Around is all about growing up, and quite honestly, I think that's the legitimate intention. In his bizarro world, a concept like "kids rule and adults have no rights" is the best way to teach kids that growing up is okay. Whatever the intention behind GA is, I can wager you that it's very different to what he actually created.