CIA Nigger
Not a fed, just a random object on the street.
Retired Staff
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- May 15, 2017
The thing is too exposing the bullshit the fandom does is a very risky endeavor and it should say a lot that the most active place where furries shit on furries (this site) is run by someone who is not a furry. Most furries don't have the balls to do it. They are very worried about retaliation and it has in fact happened to a few furries who became extremely vocal about the mob (without being a part of any sort of blacklisted furry groups). Furries don't want to lose all their furry friendships and many of them quite frankly suck ass at making "normie" friends. They're nerds making friends in nerd communities, and they had to sift through all the low-IQ speds who want to RP to get to having people they think are their friends.Talking openly about the shit that's happening is really the only way to counteract it, but it may lead to the broader fandom distancing themselves from you and the people you associate with. Unfortunately, the fandom at large is somewhat cult-like in that aspect; they will actively shun others who attempt to call out bullshit as it happens, unless they can spin it for PR purposes (hence all the "any people who do bad things are not Real Furries(tm)" sentiments).
Being a safe harbor for individuals who might be dealing with internal issues in the fandom relating to abuse is, in my opinion, probably the best option for anyone who genuinely wants to help; having external resources outside the fandom for individuals who want to leave and maintaining friendships even if they no longer share your hobby is the best thing you can do for anyone being victimized. There are a lot of people who stay in abusive relationships and situations within the furry fandom because they feel that if they leave they will lose their friends/surrogate families, and in a lot of cases this is not an incorrect assumption. It's very, very common for people who no longer want to participate in the fandom itself to fall by the wayside and get excluded by furry friends once they make it clear they no longer wish to come back "into the fold" so to speak. This can be extremely discouraging and depressing for people who have a majority of friends still within the fandom, and most people who have attempted to leave the furry community after dealing with abuse will typically return for this exact reason. People who grew up being weird or not easily accepted by normies tend to make stronger connections with the usually accepting furry fandom, provided they toe the line and keep supporting the community, no matter how toxic and cliquey it gets.
Becoming a famous creator in of itself isn't the problem in of itself either, but when a majority of your income comes from a group like the furry fandom it's prone to make people want to offer allowances for questionable behavior in exchange for financial stability and access to networking opportunities. Personally I'd also recommend not trying to get in with popufurs too much if possible; you can certainly look up to artists and befriend them, sure, but it's also worth remembering that they're human beings (regardless of whatever projected animal persona they are marketing) and that your interactions with them (online or offline) do not constitute the entirety of their existence. The amount of idolatry that happens for popufurs and how much shit they can get away with is incredible because so many of their fans feel that they have some intimate knowledge about their lives despite only meeting them at annual furcons or a maybe a furmeet once a month/week.
Cancel culture is shockingly effective because a lot of the targets don't expect it or even know what set the mob on them. It's a mix of the famous Life Ruination guides you'd see in the early imageboard days mixed with Scientology's effective disconnection and Suppressive Person policies. The end result is a damaging combo of losing your job/career and friends because some pissed off troons who hate themselves every waking hour decided to ruin your life. It works because nobody expects to lose their so-called longtime friends or career over a callout post for having a slightly incorrect opinion. It also works because no victims of it end up snapping (in minecraft) or even suing, but instead end up taking the Alec Holowka route and killing themselves or falling into obscurity. It really fucking works in the furry fandom because quite a few furries are either true believers or they're doing it out of fear they'll end up blocked too.
In the furry fandom there are quite a few victims. Quite a few suddenly find it harder to get art when a non-canceled furry can get it from anyone if they have money. Artists will find business sink as furries tell the others that this artist is so and so. High-profile victims will find themselves attacked if they make art for a blacklisted furry to enforce the status quo and vice versa. Some DFE'd after their alt accounts with cub art got exposed. Some like Lapfox fell into extreme obscurity after being unable to DJ at events such as Anthrocon (which drew in big crowds).
When I think of burned out furries who ended up calling out the fandom hard, all I can think of is the couple behind Dreamkeepers (who lean center-right politically IIRC, not uncommon with older furs). They got fucked hard with hit pieces by Dogpatch and whatnot for doing problematic things like drawing art for Milo. Then when they wrote a Medium.com article about how shit the fandom is when the Zoosadist leaks came out, they found themselves suddenly unable to secure tables at cons and pushed into writing posts that'd fit in this subforum shitting on the fandom hard while having to sell online instead.
The only reason it didn't fuck people like the couple behind Dreamkeepers harder or someone like Regan is they're diversifying outside the fandom and into the "indie comics" scene. If you want to even call out the furry fandom you will come under the microscope, you will get banned from cons left and right, and you will really hope that nerds who aren't furries will be ready to back you up because the furry fandom will sure be ready to throw you under the bus. If you're smart you likely already know that people will back you up more if you pull the "I'm not a furry, I just liked Disney movies/cartoons" excuse. It's also why Stardock is still around despite Brad Wardell being canceled multiple times, because Stardock built up an audience from targeting a loyal OS/2 market. He targeted people who remained loyal customers instead of furries.