Furry Fandom and Drama General

Talking openly about the shit that's happening is really the only way to counteract it, but it may lead to the broader fandom distancing themselves from you and the people you associate with. Unfortunately, the fandom at large is somewhat cult-like in that aspect; they will actively shun others who attempt to call out bullshit as it happens, unless they can spin it for PR purposes (hence all the "any people who do bad things are not Real Furries(tm)" sentiments).

Being a safe harbor for individuals who might be dealing with internal issues in the fandom relating to abuse is, in my opinion, probably the best option for anyone who genuinely wants to help; having external resources outside the fandom for individuals who want to leave and maintaining friendships even if they no longer share your hobby is the best thing you can do for anyone being victimized. There are a lot of people who stay in abusive relationships and situations within the furry fandom because they feel that if they leave they will lose their friends/surrogate families, and in a lot of cases this is not an incorrect assumption. It's very, very common for people who no longer want to participate in the fandom itself to fall by the wayside and get excluded by furry friends once they make it clear they no longer wish to come back "into the fold" so to speak. This can be extremely discouraging and depressing for people who have a majority of friends still within the fandom, and most people who have attempted to leave the furry community after dealing with abuse will typically return for this exact reason. People who grew up being weird or not easily accepted by normies tend to make stronger connections with the usually accepting furry fandom, provided they toe the line and keep supporting the community, no matter how toxic and cliquey it gets.

Becoming a famous creator in of itself isn't the problem in of itself either, but when a majority of your income comes from a group like the furry fandom it's prone to make people want to offer allowances for questionable behavior in exchange for financial stability and access to networking opportunities. Personally I'd also recommend not trying to get in with popufurs too much if possible; you can certainly look up to artists and befriend them, sure, but it's also worth remembering that they're human beings (regardless of whatever projected animal persona they are marketing) and that your interactions with them (online or offline) do not constitute the entirety of their existence. The amount of idolatry that happens for popufurs and how much shit they can get away with is incredible because so many of their fans feel that they have some intimate knowledge about their lives despite only meeting them at annual furcons or a maybe a furmeet once a month/week.
The thing is too exposing the bullshit the fandom does is a very risky endeavor and it should say a lot that the most active place where furries shit on furries (this site) is run by someone who is not a furry. Most furries don't have the balls to do it. They are very worried about retaliation and it has in fact happened to a few furries who became extremely vocal about the mob (without being a part of any sort of blacklisted furry groups). Furries don't want to lose all their furry friendships and many of them quite frankly suck ass at making "normie" friends. They're nerds making friends in nerd communities, and they had to sift through all the low-IQ speds who want to RP to get to having people they think are their friends.

Cancel culture is shockingly effective because a lot of the targets don't expect it or even know what set the mob on them. It's a mix of the famous Life Ruination guides you'd see in the early imageboard days mixed with Scientology's effective disconnection and Suppressive Person policies. The end result is a damaging combo of losing your job/career and friends because some pissed off troons who hate themselves every waking hour decided to ruin your life. It works because nobody expects to lose their so-called longtime friends or career over a callout post for having a slightly incorrect opinion. It also works because no victims of it end up snapping (in minecraft) or even suing, but instead end up taking the Alec Holowka route and killing themselves or falling into obscurity. It really fucking works in the furry fandom because quite a few furries are either true believers or they're doing it out of fear they'll end up blocked too.

In the furry fandom there are quite a few victims. Quite a few suddenly find it harder to get art when a non-canceled furry can get it from anyone if they have money. Artists will find business sink as furries tell the others that this artist is so and so. High-profile victims will find themselves attacked if they make art for a blacklisted furry to enforce the status quo and vice versa. Some DFE'd after their alt accounts with cub art got exposed. Some like Lapfox fell into extreme obscurity after being unable to DJ at events such as Anthrocon (which drew in big crowds).

When I think of burned out furries who ended up calling out the fandom hard, all I can think of is the couple behind Dreamkeepers (who lean center-right politically IIRC, not uncommon with older furs). They got fucked hard with hit pieces by Dogpatch and whatnot for doing problematic things like drawing art for Milo. Then when they wrote a Medium.com article about how shit the fandom is when the Zoosadist leaks came out, they found themselves suddenly unable to secure tables at cons and pushed into writing posts that'd fit in this subforum shitting on the fandom hard while having to sell online instead.

The only reason it didn't fuck people like the couple behind Dreamkeepers harder or someone like Regan is they're diversifying outside the fandom and into the "indie comics" scene. If you want to even call out the furry fandom you will come under the microscope, you will get banned from cons left and right, and you will really hope that nerds who aren't furries will be ready to back you up because the furry fandom will sure be ready to throw you under the bus. If you're smart you likely already know that people will back you up more if you pull the "I'm not a furry, I just liked Disney movies/cartoons" excuse. It's also why Stardock is still around despite Brad Wardell being canceled multiple times, because Stardock built up an audience from targeting a loyal OS/2 market. He targeted people who remained loyal customers instead of furries.
 
Pedos and other scum continue to flourish in the fandom because these idiots would much rather do stupid callouts that will make the accused go dark then return under a new alias instead of dealing with the problem permanently by calling the proper authorities. This happens every fucking month and they continue to look the other way and deny deny deny.

Edit: Also fuck you if you think I’m gonna respect the she/her pronouns of a chomo with a pedostache.
 
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Edit: Also fuck you if you think I’m gonna respect the she/her pronouns of a chomo with a pedostache.

Uhh sure they just had their partner exposed as an actual pedophile, but don't be RUDE.

The way this furry is going around random accounts to call out transphobia instead of actually, y'know, dealing with the more pressing issue of, y'know, pedophilia involved makes it seem like they're trying to act the innocent victim and allying feels sketchy af. Why does this furry care about a pedophile's pronouns being called wrong? That should be the last thing on your mind to go arguing with people about if you're actually upset about this. :thinking:

Edit: The guy is gimmick-cow, but the constant whataboutism deflections about christians hmmm.
 
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It's funny that I said that "the most active place where furries shit on furries is run by someone who isn't a furry" last night because here's what happens when that is not the case (or said group is run by furry sympathizers). Reddit's /r/yiffinhell (a great value Redditor version of this subforum) got taken over by the powermod cabal and has been flooded with "FUCK MODS" posts. One thing that set that sub apart from us is that while this subforum will at most mock you if you're an open furry posting here and not ratting out abusers in the fandom, /r/yiffinhell would ban furries on the spot.
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SRD post: http://archive.fo/WFZui
/r/drama post: http://archive.fo/YLjvG

Now here's where this gets spicy. Look at the moderator at the top and remember this username.
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Now let's go back to the /r/drama thread and...wait a minute, that fursona. That sure seems familiar, doesn't it?
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That's right, /u/CorvusCalvaria is another AllTheFoxes alias. You know, the moderator at Discord famous for helping make Discord the shithole it is known as. Let's see what subreddits he moderates:
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Some furry porn subs, /r/drama, /r/trueoffmychest, and funny enough /r/JannieIsASlur, a sub created by KaaraRaven. But nothing screams "jannies mad" like how he deleted a post calling him out on /r/drama.
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Hi Reddit:
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So for those of you who want to use a DVD or BluRay disc as a coaster (and that's all I'd ever use this piece of crap for), here's the disc box cover for Ash Coyote's "The Fandom".

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Huh. Interesting choice in that:

- Any furry under 30 is going to say 'uh, what's with the Broadway-show weasel on the cover'? Does anyone other than the old farts in the fandom remember the skiltaires?
- Ash went with Merlino's creation, and Merlino's a decaying old boomer which I'm sure, for a lot of furries makes this cover 'problematical'.
- Isn't there still controversy over Merlino supposedly being the one responsible for the fandom starting out as a fetish one, due to advertising early cons in gay and BDSM 'zines?

And from the website: "We also see some of the more controversial aspects of furry history including the artistic culture and push back by the media that made it become something far beyond what most people think of as a “kinky hobby.”"

Love the quotemarks; nice try, Ash. Most people think it's a kinky hobby because they've seen the art content and the behavior of furries, which just confirms... it's a kinky hobby. Really, nobody's confused about that.
 
I see no reason why you'd waste your money on it when you can watch it free on YouTube when it drops. It'll have to prove it's not another joke like the Bronycon documentary trashfire was.

Love the quotemarks; nice try, Ash. Most people think it's a kinky hobby because they've seen the art content and the behavior of furries, which just confirms... it's a kinky hobby. Really, nobody's confused about that.
The furry fandom ceased to be anything more than a kinky hobby sometime in the late 90s, it just took until Rainfurrest for that reality to truly set in for many. Why do you think furries with talent don't associate themselves with the fandom?
 
I see no reason why you'd waste your money on it when you can watch it free on YouTube when it drops. It'll have to prove it's not another joke like the Bronycon documentary trashfire was.

Well, nobody's going to buy it other than furries.

And the reason they will buy it is because they so desperately need their fandom so they can have an identity, and they even more desperately need a pretend-documentary that makes it look like their fandom is mainstream and legitimate, and not a huge joke.
 
Hoes mad that John Oliver used a tweet from a furry in his show.




Black Americans - remember, cartoon beastiality fans with a fetish for animal dick are your ally!

Furries - remember, mentioning your weird fetishes to Black Americans may get you beaten severely!

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... and not only has he locked down his a-bit-too-public twitter, he’s a #saveoursisk orbiter.
 
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Jesus, do these dipshits seriously always pull this "BUT NOT ALL FURRIES" shit whenever their shit is uncovered? The image of that pedo fuck's room has 11K people liking it because of how ridiculous it is. These people are a fucking joke and they don't realize that the average person is disgusted by them and doesn't like them, and shit like this happening as much as it does gives plenty of reason to do so, on top of the hypocritical and pointless shitflinging of "but anime"; MOTHERFUCKER YOU JERK OFF TO ANIMAL PEOPLE. The average every man is going to consider you a fucking wacko and not let you near their pets OR children for that matter, just as they would any other degenerate of any other fetish or medium. Get over yourself, christ.
 
The transchick who shared a transpedophile with her nonbinary partner got $4700 in donations from furries.


So you should absolutely expect to see someone fake this exact situation again in the future. Over 1500 followers and $4700? That's ripe for scamming. Plus, she's still shilling for more donations.

Hey, why not have their AD accounts, as well. Just because.


 
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Over 1500 followers and $4700? That's ripe for scamming. Plus, she's still shilling for more donations.

A furry and their money are very easily parted. What's the bet that he will also waste the $4700 of money that his fellow furries have wasted for him? Judging by the hoarder apartment I think it'll all be spent on even more useless furry clutter.

Also jeez, knife fetishists? This totally won't end badly. :story:
 
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Jesus, do these dipshits seriously always pull this "BUT NOT ALL FURRIES" shit whenever their shit is uncovered? The image of that pedo fuck's room has 11K people liking it because of how ridiculous it is. These people are a fucking joke and they don't realize that the average person is disgusted by them and doesn't like them, and shit like this happening as much as it does gives plenty of reason to do so, on top of the hypocritical and pointless shitflinging of "but anime"; MOTHERFUCKER YOU JERK OFF TO ANIMAL PEOPLE. The average every man is going to consider you a fucking wacko and not let you near their pets OR children for that matter, just as they would any other degenerate of any other fetish or medium. Get over yourself, christ.

People with sense know that it's "not all furries." Just like it's "not all men" etc. But it's enough of them to create a disturbing and distressing pattern of degeneracy and abuse.
 
Welcome to furry, where a report of someone raping and abusing animals or minors is just "another day".


The archives cover it almost completely, but:

"Rouxx" / "Rouxx21" manipulated and lied to people for sex, groomed minors into sex, raped his ex-wife's dog when it was just a puppy, and even pretended to be a girl online to convince someone to have sex with him, apparently.

According to the twitter thread he lives in Kitsap County, Washington.
 
Welcome to furry, where a report of someone raping and abusing animals or minors is just "another day".


The archives cover it almost completely, but:

"Rouxx" / "Rouxx21" manipulated and lied to people for sex, groomed minors into sex, raped his ex-wife's dog when it was just a puppy, and even pretended to be a girl online to convince someone to have sex with him, apparently.

According to the twitter thread he lives in Kitsap County, Washington.
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