Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I barely use Reddit anymore, but about a month ago I was checking it and someone was talking about how COVID could lead to an "eco-friendly progressive '50s" halcyon by 2030. Someone replied with "don't forget your mask!" (quotes included). I didn't reply, but it can't be overstated how pissed off just reading the exchange made me.

I'm gay and would rather live in the actual '50s, with homosexuality a complete taboo, than this goddamn dystopian cyberpunk shithole.
 
Well, boys and girls, since March till mid June my little town had about 30 diagnosed infected total (our region went into lockdown really quickly right at the moment we’ve got wuflu).
Last week we’ve got 11 infected inside the hospital.
Yesterday 19 people were diagnosed in town.
We’re finally getting the peak :c
 
Stats for nearly every town, county, state, province, and country in the world have been reported almost daily for over a hundred days. There must be tens of thousands of local news reports of "new cases," making it practically inevitable that every 3-digit number will show up somewhere in that haystack.
 
I'm fully expecting a second retarded full lockdown at this point. The media mongrels have convinced the populace that the virus is "worse than ever before" with "spiking numbers everywhere" (with nobody questioning exactly how that happened of course, and if they do they quickly get told it's because of places opening up and not due to the chimpouts throughout the country). When autumn season comes about they'll push for it as hard as possible with the extra strength of "flu season" in their cards. No sports, no gatherings, no holidays. Just stay in your pods indefinitely, goys.

About a month ago I wouldn't have believed it, but we're now in a timeline where they're manually removing Teddy Roosevelt and every other historical figure from public sight and memory and some are even threatening to blow up Mt. Rushmore. Absolutely anything on the insanity chart is possible now.

"They" will do so at their peril. Should statewide house arrests be reinstituted, the national level of anger may well boil over in places. At a minimum, mass widespread civil disobedience. At worst, rioting, or someone could pull a McVeigh. The vast majority of people put no credibility in what any (city/county/state/Federal) government says, having utterly fucked up things the first time. The vast majority of people no longer trust any government. "They" got very lucky this time. The relaxation of the house arrests was just enough to forestall large-scale rioting. Many families have suffered greatly. These families, and others, won't put up with this shit again.

Would also say that these statues are being removed in only a relatively few public places. If the statue is on private property, the property owner can tell the whiners to eat shit and bark at the moon. Mt. Rushmore's in a national park. Good luck, least under President Trump, getting it removed.

Here's an interesting article from Reason.


 
And these absolutely fucking retarded niggers have the audacity to say wake up, republicans are trying to strip us of our freedoms and establish an authoritarian regime! Like nigger, the DEMOCRATS are the ones putting everyone on house arrest and talking about this motherfucking permanent "new normal" and tracking everyone to keep them safe from the flu, but republicans thinking buildings shouldn't be burned down for no reason is what I should be worried about?

ARE
YOU
FUCKING

KIDDING
ME
!?!?!?!?!?!?


Whoever said liberalism is a mental illness was totally right...
 
"They" will do so at their peril. Should statewide house arrests be reinstituted, the national level of anger may well boil over in places. At a minimum, mass widespread civil disobedience. At worst, rioting, or someone could pull a McVeigh. The vast majority of people put no credibility in what any (city/county/state/Federal) government says, having utterly fucked up things the first time. The vast majority of people no longer trust any government. "They" got very lucky this time. The relaxation of the house arrests was just enough to forestall large-scale rioting. Many families have suffered greatly. These families, and others, won't put up with this shit again.

Would also say that these statues are being removed in only a relatively few public places. If the statue is on private property, the property owner can tell the whiners to eat shit and bark at the moon. Mt. Rushmore's in a national park. Good luck, least under President Trump, getting it removed.

Here's an interesting article from Reason.


Doesn't matter what the majority thinks. Twitter's an extremely small echo chamber in the grand scheme of things yet they sure seem to hold a lot of sway in pressuring what other people think and say on the daily. The corporations, governments and media all working in tandem to shove this COVID fearmongering + communist revolution bullshit down our throats is proof the ones who's power actually matters are all actively, aggressively walloping against us. And if any dissent does occur they never miss a beat to twist the story and get the masses to believe it's all the work of racists/nazis/white supremacists/insert buzzword here.

I'd like to believe that this is the extreme leftist regime's final swan song before going down in (literal) flames and the 2020's won't be an absolute dystopian nightmare the likes of which history's never seen before, but it's getting harder and harder to hold on to that hope when it's painfully evident that the elites have been hoarding all the best cards in the deck for the past several decades and are playing them all at once in a no holes barred combo attack of the century.
 
"They" will do so at their peril. Should statewide house arrests be reinstituted, the national level of anger may well boil over in places. At a minimum, mass widespread civil disobedience. At worst, rioting, or someone could pull a McVeigh. The vast majority of people put no credibility in what any (city/county/state/Federal) government says, having utterly fucked up things the first time. The vast majority of people no longer trust any government. "They" got very lucky this time. The relaxation of the house arrests was just enough to forestall large-scale rioting. Many families have suffered greatly. These families, and others, won't put up with this shit again.

Would also say that these statues are being removed in only a relatively few public places. If the statue is on private property, the property owner can tell the whiners to eat shit and bark at the moon. Mt. Rushmore's in a national park. Good luck, least under President Trump, getting it removed.

Here's an interesting article from Reason.


Unless the local national guard goes rogue and uses artillery to blast Rushmore as a "Fuck you!" to Trump, once convinced by Twitter's profoundly persuasive (within the current paradigm) arguments, and all the generals, glowniggers and military police refuse to punish them.
 
Unless the local national guard goes rogue and uses artillery to blast Rushmore as a "Fuck you!" to Trump, once convinced by Twitter's profoundly persuasive (within the current paradigm) arguments, and all the generals, glowniggers and military police refuse to punish them.

We're talking South Dakota. Not to worry.


Added: Good article re the pseudo-science behind masks, etc. However, Newsom and his lackeys aren't smart enough to be Technocrats. They are Communists, which requires zero brains whatsoever.



 
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I'm gonna make a free class on how to shitpost in the internet with a requisite of having attended an accredited English class.

Also I'm teaching English classes with accreditation for $45.50.

Edit: Also while we're in that subject. It appears China has many online classes to learn English that exploits third world countries that have English speaking people. They pay like 20 cents per hour to teach those little emperors.
 
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We're talking South Dakota. Not to worry.


Added: Good article re the pseudo-science behind masks, etc. However, Newsom and his lackeys aren't smart enough to be Technocrats. They are Communists, which requires zero brains whatsoever.





I did a bit of digging, and I found that the study being cited to mandate masks from Texas A&M is far from perfect. Chiefly, it finds a correlation but gives the explicit caveat that they have found no direct causal link between increased masks and reduced transmission. The dissent seems to state that if you're coughing and sneezing there's an obvious reduction in transmission, but I'm not seeing the case being made there for the uninfected to be forced to wear masks. The most current death counts still show a downward trend in the virus, but we will apparently have a clearer picture in a week or two as the recent surge in infections is treated. Additionally, the recent surge seems to be largely younger adults, who from all the data we have seem to fare relatively well against the virus.


I wouldn't go so far as to label the argument for masks as "pseudoscience", I would call it more of a hypothesis than anything. I think there's a strong argument for those who know they are sick to wear the mask until they recover, but there's no reason for those who've already recovered to have to wear a mask. As far as I'm concerned, the only time the government should be able to mandate masks is when there's no way for citizens concerned about getting infected to avoid having to do something in person. In all other cases, if you don't want to take the risk of infection you should do whatever you need to do remotely while those who are willing to take the risk are allowed to.

Edit: Another two studies from the UK say basically the same thing that the A&M study says, and similarly rely on multiple assumptions.

“Clearly there is some face validity to the suggestions that the more people who wear masks, the more impact this might have on the spread of COVID-19, but this is highly dependent on the effectiveness of the masks the public will use […] Also, the model itself has six parameters (particularly about infectiousness of droplets and spread of different types of infectious material) which were arbitrarily defined.”


“The findings of the model, like all other models, is highly dependent on the assumptions made on these parameters. If any of the assumptions are significantly wrong, this will affect the conclusion of the study.”

– Prof. Keith Neal
 
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I'm concerned, the only time the government should be able to mandate masks is when there's no way for citizens concerned about getting infected to avoid having to do something in person.
you have to wear a mask while walking outside in the US? thats just stupid...
 
you have to wear a mask while walking outside in the US? thats just stupid...

In California you do, I'm not sure about others. Some states are forcing you to wear the masks indoors indirectly by fining companies that have customers without masks, which is what I was mainly referring to. The thing is, considering the rising trend for retail/grocers to offer their own delivery services it's not that hard for those concerned about catching the virus to avoid ever setting foot in the store, at least in most major metropolitan areas. Walmart, Costco, Sams, Whole Food etc.; brick-and-mortar shops aren't going anywhere soon, but they certainly are treating Amazon as a threat and attempting to get market share back by offering their own online services. Home delivery has been the "next big thing" in retail for quite some time, and quite serendipitously the infrastructure was largely completed in the last two years or so for most major grocery chains, specifically for delivering groceries and perishables.

I can't speak for more rural areas, but in most cities there's not much you can't get delivered through online orders. That's why I don't buy this trend of mandating masks while you shop. There are options for the more risk-averse consumer that doesn't directly inconvenience those who would rather take their chances.
 
Calm down, it's just three weeks and everything will be back to normal. Quit freaking out about "loss of freedoms" and your crazy conspiracy theories about a new world order.

We're going to have to social distance forever, don't you know? We're going to have to wear masks, stay 6 feet away from each other, and simply not have large events from now on. Oh, and we shouldn't leave our houses until a vaccine is developed. What do you mean this is fucked up? What sounds strange about any of this? "Ulterior motives"? I'm sorry about your sick worldviews*.

*some English major at my school actually said that to me on Facebook before I deleted my initial post.

I know I'm complaining about this a ton, but my school going ahead and putting fall classes online (they updated my class details to online this morning) was my breaking point. I'm really scared how something is just posited and it's accepted as a given, like "we have to avoid this thing at all costs because we say so". Like what made every other time period suck. I thought everyone would just forget about it after the riots, but sure enough, the biggest cynics were right and now they're doing a U-turn and ramping everything up again. I just can't trust anything anymore. I've completely lost faith in society at this point.
 
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Calm down, it's just three weeks and everything will be back to normal. Quit freaking out about "loss of freedoms" and your crazy conspiracy theories about a new world order.

We're going to have to social distance forever, don't you know? We're going to have to wear masks, stay 6 feet away from each other, and simply not have large events from now on. Oh, and we shouldn't leave our houses until a vaccine is developed. What do you mean this is fucked up? What sounds strange about any of this? "Ulterior motives"? I'm sorry about your sick worldviews*.

*some English major at my school actually said that to me on Facebook before I deleted my initial post.

I know I'm complaining about this a ton, but my school going ahead and putting fall classes online (they updated my class details to online this morning) was my breaking point. I'm really scared how something is just posited and it's accepted as a given, like "we have to avoid this thing at all costs because we say so". Like what made every other time period suck. I thought everyone would just forget about it after the riots, but sure enough, the biggest cynicists were right and now they're doing a U-turn and ramping everything up again. I just can't trust anything anymore. I've completely lost faith in society at this point.
Time to take a break dude. Ignore the media, ignore the farms, engage with your hobbies and loved ones. And for the love of God stay off social media. There’s tards in them hills.
 
"They" will do so at their peril. Should statewide house arrests be reinstituted, the national level of anger may well boil over in places. At a minimum, mass widespread civil disobedience. At worst, rioting, or someone could pull a McVeigh. The vast majority of people put no credibility in what any (city/county/state/Federal) government says, having utterly fucked up things the first time. The vast majority of people no longer trust any government. "They" got very lucky this time. The relaxation of the house arrests was just enough to forestall large-scale rioting. Many families have suffered greatly. These families, and others, won't put up with this shit again.

Would also say that these statues are being removed in only a relatively few public places. If the statue is on private property, the property owner can tell the whiners to eat shit and bark at the moon. Mt. Rushmore's in a national park. Good luck, least under President Trump, getting it removed.

Here's an interesting article from Reason.



I knew something was off about the media's recent reporting on Covid. They are just stating the "new infections" without "this many deaths."

you have to wear a mask while walking outside in the US? thats just stupid...

Not in Illinois. You have to put the damn things on when you walk into a store but even then some people ignore it. (Except the Karen's who love having new rules to talk to managers about.)
 
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