Debate Webby's Boyfriend about the validity of him dating underage cartoon characters - Cartoons aren't real

Webby's Boyfriend said:
16 year olds aren't kids.
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Getting your period doesn’t mean having sex right away. But earlier puberty does, on average, mean earlier sex. According to the most recent data from the U.S. government’s Youth Risk Behavior Survey, one of every three American ninth graders has had intercourse. And that’s not counting the millions of teens who have had oral sex instead.

Having sex at 12 is a bad idea. But if you’re pubescent, it might be, in part, your bad idea. Conversely, having sex with a 12-year-old, when you’re 20, is scummy. But it doesn’t necessarily make you the kind of predator who has to be locked up. A guy who goes after 5-year-old girls is deeply pathological. A guy who goes after a womanly body that happens to be 13 years old is failing to regulate a natural attraction. That doesn’t excuse him. But it does justify treating him differently.

I’m not saying 12 should be the official age of “consent.” Consent implies competence, and 12-year-olds don’t really have that. In a forthcoming review of studies, Laurence Steinberg of Temple University observes that at ages 12 to 13, only 11 percent of kids score at an average (50th percentile) adult level on tests of intellectual ability. By ages 14 to 15, the percentage has doubled to 21. By ages 16 to 17, it has doubled again to 42. After that, it levels off.

By that standard, the age of consent should be 16. But competence isn’t just cognitive. It’s emotional, too. Steinberg reports that on tests of psychosocial maturity, kids are much slower to develop. From ages 10 to 21, only one of every four young people scores at an average adult level. By ages 22 to 25, one in three reaches that level. By ages 26 to 30, it’s up to two in three.

Steinberg concludes that “risk-taking increases between childhood and adolescence as a result of changes around the time of puberty in the brain’s socio-emotional system.” In tests, these tendencies peak from ages 13 to 16. Subsequently, “[r]isk-taking declines between adolescence and adulthood because of changes in the brain’s cognitive control system—changes which improve individuals’ capacity for self-regulation.” The latter kind of competence doesn’t reach adult levels until the mid-20s.

Lay out these numbers on a timeline, and you have the beginnings of a logical scheme for regulating teen sex. First comes the age at which your brain wants sex and your body signals to others that you’re ready for it. Then comes the age of cognitive competence. Then comes the age of emotional competence. Each of these thresholds should affect our expectations, and the expectations should apply to the older party in a relationship as well as to the younger one. The older you get, the higher the standard to which you should be held responsible.

The lowest standard is whether the partner you’re targeting is sexually developed as an object. If her body is childlike, you’re seriously twisted. But if it’s womanly, and you’re too young to think straight, maybe we’ll cut you some slack.

The next standard is whether your target is intellectually developed as a subject. We’re not talking about her body anymore; we’re talking about her mind. When you were younger, we cut you slack for thinking only about boobs. But now we expect you to think about whether she’s old enough to judge the physical and emotional risks of messing around. The same standards apply, in reverse, if you’re a woman.

It’s possible that you’ll think about these things but fail to restrain yourself. If you’re emotionally immature, we’ll take that into consideration. But once you cross the third line, the age of self-regulatory competence, we’ll throw the book at you.
What do “cutting slack” and “throwing the book” mean? If you’re young, we could let your parents handle it. We could assign a social service agency to check up on you. We could require you to get counseling. We could issue a restraining order. We could put you on probation. We could put you in a juvenile facility, a mental institution, or jail. In the worst case, we could subject you to a mandatory minimum sentence.

Whatever the particulars, the measures taken should be developmentally appropriate. “Age-span” provisions, which currently allow for sex with somebody near your own age, are a good start, but they’re not objectively grounded. That’s why they differ wildly from state to state. I’d draw the object line at 12, the cognitive line at 16, and the self-regulatory line at 25. I’d lock up anyone who went after a 5-year-old. I’d come down hard on a 38-year-old who married a 15-year-old. And if I ran a college, I’d discipline professors for sleeping with freshmen. When you’re 35, “she’s legal” isn’t good enough.
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I'd put the cognitive line at 18 like a lot of US states do. That doesn't affect teenagers other than making them wait a bit. And delayed gratification isn't a bad thing.

Still, you can see from the studies mention that 16-year olds are not adults. Intellectually they haven't finished developing and emotionally they've barely started.

Incidentally, if you're under 25 under this scheme you can claim mitigation, and then you'll only be sent to work camp rather than shot. You'll still have to be paraded in front of the mob though.
 
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I've been at work all day and apparently there's a lot to unpack; I've only skimmed the thread, I'll have to go back and risk brain damage by reading it more intently later. Anyhoo...

Webby's Boyfriend said:
Autism isn't a medical condition, it is more like an ideology. A philosophical ideology and political system, disguised as a disability.
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What brand of schnitzel'n'riceniggertry is this? I'm just gonna assume someone's banged this in random_text.

Webby's Boyfriend said:
Why?
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Because it's utterly degenerate, you gigantic cock-holster. Any man worthy of the designation would destroy himself out of hand, should he fall far enough to consider children suitable for sexual conquest.

Webby's Boyfriend said:
Like whom?
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@BoxerShorts47 is a sperg like you, just a slightly different flavour; the Wolverine to your Sabertooth, if you like. Are you seriously telling me that you two didn't escape together some sort of autistic "Weapon X" style program designed to combat cognitive improvement in the human race by buggering all promising children into traumatised insensibility?
 
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Just A Butt said:
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Looks like a real total nutjob.

Gustav Schuchardt said:
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I'd put the cognitive line at 18 like a lot of US states do. That doesn't affect teenagers other than making them wait a bit. And delayed gratification isn't a bad thing.

Still, you can see from the studies mention that 16-year olds are not adults. Intellectually they haven't finished developing and emotionally they've barely started.

Incidentally, if you're under 25 under this scheme you can claim mitigation, and then you'll only be sent to work camp rather than shot. You'll still have to be paraded in front of the mob though.
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Yeah, whatever.

Troon Draugur said:
@BoxerShorts47 is a sperg like you, just a slightly different flavour; the Wolverine to your Sabertooth, if you like. Are you seriously telling me that you two didn't escape together some sort of autistic "Weapon X" style program designed to combat cognitive improvement in the human race by buggering all promising children into traumatised insensibility?
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Like I said, I am not autistic, I am cosmistic.

SIGSEGV said:
They're not adults either
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Or maybe.
 
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@Webby's Boyfriend gets comfort from his mom, after a hard day online...
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fuzzyrodent85 said:
@Webby's Boyfriend What was so attractive about Webby that you chose her over other cartoon characters?
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We were never in a romantic relationship. And for Deryn, well, she is, cute and adventurous.
ToroidalBoat said:
Believing that "all cartoons are real in another dimension" and "there will be a dimensional merge" could be a common symptom of autism doctors have yet to recognize.
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Autistics live in their own world.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Believing that "all cartoons are real in another dimension" and "there will be a dimensional merge" could be a common symptom of autism doctors have yet to recognize.
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I think it might have to do with maladaptive daydreaming, there's been studies that say autistic people don't daydream in the same way as non-autistic people so if they've got constant, super vivid daydreams maybe they confuse their daydreams about their favourite characters as being actual real events happening in a different dimension?
 
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