U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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Lol some of the greatest human atrocities in history were created under Christianity. Stop getting philosophical, what you really want is a return to the early internet era.
Although I do want a return to the early internet era, Every great atrocitiy in history was either done in the name of a god, or in the name of some man or some political movement.
This seems to be contrary to most previous high-profile case where body cam and other audiovisual evidence is released in the name of transparency and accountability. A similar thing an be said about broadcasting the trials, the press usually insist it's a First Amendment issue when someone requests closed proceedings. It really does make one go, "Hmm," to see the opposite taking place here.
A judge traditionally has the ultimate say if a case is to be recorded or not, but in this case it was the DA who rejected the request from the defense.

I even agree that the Union needs the full body cam footage in order to know exactly what happened from start to finish for two main reasons:
There is a third the possbility "To advocate for the cops because Floyd was resisting arrest or other wise was causing trouble for the restraint to be needed and for the officers to not beleive 'I can't breath' claims." Even if it does not apply to the Floyd case it applies to other cases (E.g. Brooks)
 
ActBlue, the clearinghouse for donations to BLM and other left wing groups, has reported their data for May. I pulled some highlights, compared to April 2020 and May 2016. There are many reasons for their income/outlays to change over time, so I'm not making any particular conclusions here. It's just data.

Total Contributions: $131,276,985.39
* This is an increase of $16,456,778.33 over April 2020 and $94,861,267.67 over May 2016.

Transfers to Fed Candidates/Committees and Other Political Committees: $129,761,733.68
* This is an increase of $24,342,558.99 over April 2020 and $93,252,057.96 over May 2016.

Net Operating Expenditures: $1,199,186.18
* This is a decrease of $473,626.47 from April 2020 and an increase of $800,998.97 over May 2016.

On April 15, 2020, ActBlue received a Request For Additional Information regarding contributions that exceeded the contribution limit for their Federal PAC. They found numerous contributions ranging from $10 to $17,600 exceeded the limit and refunded them. They also found some earmarked contributions that did not affect their limit; it is unclear if they misdirected those funds to their own account or simply reported them incorrectly. And look at Yorkin and Walk; that pattern should have set off a fraud detection algorithm somewhere.

We are writing in response to an RFAI we received dated April 15, 2020. We have reviewed each of the contributions listed in the RFAI to determine whether any contributors did exceed their contribution limit to our federal PAC. There were some discrepancies between the contribution information listed in the RFAI and our records. Since the time of contribution, some of the listed contributions were previously refunded directly back to the donors? original payment cards, but the refunds were not included in the RFAI, as listed below (Refund Date, Name, Amount):

1. 2019-01-09, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
2. 2019-01-09, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
3. 2019-02-06, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
4. 2019-02-06, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
5. 2019-03-08, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
6. 2019-03-08, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
7. 2019-03-08, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
8. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
9. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
10. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
11. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
12. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
13. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
14. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $10.00
15. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $20.00
16. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $25.00
17. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $50.00
18. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $50.00
19. 2019-06-04, Peg Yorkin, $100.00
20. 2019-06-30, Peg Yorkin, $25.00
21. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $10.00
22. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $10.00
23. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $10.00
24. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $10.00
25. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $10.00
26. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $25.00
27. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $25.00
28. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $25.00
29. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $50.00
30. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $50.00
31. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $50.00
32. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $50.00
33. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $50.00
34. 2020-02-21, Cynthia Walk, $50.00
35. 2020-05-19, Cynthia Walk, $500.00 (*this refund occurred after we received the RFAI)
36. 2019-12-23, Dale Taylor, $280.00
37. 2019-12-01, Judith McGrath, $150.00

Additionally, some of the contributions listed for William Connell in the RFAI were actually made as earmarked contributions to other committees, rather than directly to ActBlue, and therefore do not affect the contribution limit to ActBlue. Those contributions are as follows (Date, Amount, Actual Recipient):

1. 2019-02-09, $2800.00, Warren for President, Inc.
2. 2019-02-18, $5000.00, New Hampshire Democratic Party - Federal Account
3. 2019-04-09, $2700.00, Ilhan for Congress
4. 2019-05-09, $5000.00, Nevada State Democratic Party - Federal Account

After taking these changes into account, we concluded that some contributions made to our federal account did exceed the contribution limits for certain contributors. We mailed out refund checks on May 15, 2020 to these donors listed in the RFAI to bring their 2019 contributions to ActBlue into alignment with the limits. The refund checks we issued are as follows (Check Date, Name, Amount):

1. 2020-05-12, William Connell, $400.00
2. 2020-05-12, Wayne Jordan, $3060.00
3. 2020-05-12, Deborah Simon, $13539.00
4. 2020-05-12, Paul Samuelson, $480.00
5. 2020-05-12, Martha Samuelson, $17600.00
6. 2020-05-12, Sujo Offield, $1287.00
7. 2020-05-12, James Offield, $7150.00
8. 2020-05-12, Dale Taylor, $1680.00
9. 2020-05-12, Shery Cotton, $6314.04
10. 2020-05-12, Martha Knox, $397.40
11. 2020-05-12, M. Quinn Delaney, $540.00
12. 2020-05-12, Cynthia Walk, $579.00
13. 2020-05-12, Charles Ueng, $10.00
14. 2020-05-12, David Coles, $2919.50
15. 2020-05-12, Jeff Applegate, $287.90
16. 2020-05-12, Jane Eger, $814.60
17. 2020-05-12, Christina Lang-Assael, $4360.00
18. 2020-05-12, Christopher Lutz, $1027.50
19. 2020-05-12, Judith McGrath, $175.00
20. 2020-05-12, Peg Yorkin, $760.60

These refunds will also be disclosed on our 2020 June Monthly Report.

We have enhanced our ability to detect contributions over the limit in the future. Identifying these contributions within the context of the tens of millions of contributions made to our committee each year presents a unique challenge. We have identified the procedural oversight that resulted in our failure to identify these excessive contributions and corrected it.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

FEC filings
 
it assumes that the people ruling this country have no control over the situation. That's incorrect. None of this is happening without the political elite's explicit permission and they are in fact directing the mobs and BLM.

None is this by happenstance and it has been carefully orchestrated to demoralize, inflame and incense. Do not believe the people running the USA have lost control of anything, they are consolidating control, if anything.

I am suspicious of white nationalist talk because that is exactly what "they" want to provoke. The real fact is a small vocal mob of anarchistic agitators is being deliberately promoted while most people, of all backgrounds, are appalled and upset with their behavior.

I find common cause with the people around me. They are of different races and religions. Don't let these commies convince you they are the majority because they aren't. During the past several months I have wondered what would happen to me and my neighbors if things fell apart and the supply chain broke down. After talking about it with them I learned the following: Things would be difficult for a few days. Out of necessity resources would be pooled. Troublemakers would be excluded. Those with farming skills would get together to grow food. Those who can repair things would help out. They've been through this in their countries of origin and some Americans have surprising skills.

People around you can be surprisingly resourceful and it won't be the end of the world if things get worse. I live in NYC with an idiot mayor, the BLM mob runs wild and the NYPD is fed up yet very little has changed in my neighborhood. I suspect it's way better out in the suburbs.

Be wary but don't give into despair. They can't go nuclear on the US because they'd be destroying the very thing that gives them power. It will get better.

Even as someone who's clearly in opposition to much of your rhetoric I get the point of being suspicious of "white nationalist" talk - it's wise to be suspicious of anything radical because it fucking glows but the reality is that white supremacists, white nationalists and spergs of all fucking types under those umbrellas will continue crawling out of the woodwork because the reality is that the majority of 'Suburbanite' youth are some of the most bored fucking people on the planet, obsessed with social media and the trends present in social media (how many fucking surbubanites do you think are involved in the riots? A lot, just as many as there are getting angry about this shit and wanting to express that frustration) and will continue flouting these things so long as they're a trend and they'll continue being a trend at least up until election time and so long as this shit is continuously flouted, angry spergs and educated people alike will both be drawn to our talking points, in one way or another; it's a bit jumping-the-gun to fucking distrust us all because the longer this continues, the more of 'us' makes up the other side.

Make no mistake, you're right that it's pointless to fall into doomerism and mass-shooterism at this conjecture simply because it's just fucking dumb and for the overall American, life is going to continue regardless of what's happening and that's just Human nature in action but that doesn't change the fact that we're slowly reaching a point where internal conflict, division, and Twilight Zone-esque political demonstrations are exceeding the wildness of the 60's-70's - the 60's-70's were a lot more organized and predictable..this has grown to be enormously unpredictable and it doesn't change the fact that there's been a fuckton of innocent people victimized by everything that's going on and you'd be hard-pressed to tell the families and friends of those people that it will simply get better when they see political radicals literally out in the street beating the shit out of their loved ones for whichever reason.

No precedent set before matches the absolute weirdness of modern-day Democratic ideology, no precedent set before matches the absolute fervor of millions politically-retarded children parroting political talking points because of Twitter and other social media talking platforms; modern inventions and factors are the only things that create and give credence to those happenings and events. Collapse is an extremely slow, gradual process but to think that we're going to endlessly keep recycling these events and 'going back to the status quo' as if things never happened, ignoring the fact that eventually a build-up does start to occur and things start to happen in dominos is just unrealistic - something's gotta give, eventually, as more and more people get pissed off..yes, they calm down, but it's not like that resentment magically vanishes; some of the 'generational resentment' built up during the 60's-70's is used as a fucking talking point throughout this entire conflict. It all goes somewhere, and no status quo survives forever, friendo, that's just Human history.
 
I wonder if the bodycam footage would really turn the tables on what everyone's perception of Floyd was in the first place. If that happened then all of this was for naught. All the property destroyed, all those lives ruined, and all that time lost. Ahmaud Arbery was really getting pushed hard until more and more records and bodycam footage started coming out that showcased what a really good jogger he was.
 
I wonder if the bodycam footage would really turn the tables on what everyone's perception of Floyd was in the first place. If that happened then all of this was for naught. All the property destroyed, all those lives ruined, and all that time lost. Ahmaud Arbery was really getting pushed hard until more and more records and bodycam footage started coming out that showcased what a really good jogger he was.
floyd is irrelevant now
the fire has already spread
you could show footage of him being a nazi and or raping someone
and everyone would just go "YEAH BUT WERE TRYING TO START A CONVERSATION HERE, ACAB!!!!"
and just go on
floyd will be completely forgotten by 2021
 
Because not even they believe in the horseshit they spew. They'd set Crazy Horse on fire and spartan kick Tiger Lily off a cliff before they renounce their lofts with vidya and WiFi and give it back to the redskins.

Hell, for all the screaming about 'giving back the land to their rightful owners' and 'muh reparations' the niggers do, I can't imagine them giving LA and San Diego back to the Mexicans. "Sorry, culero; Santa Anna said no backsies!"
They're for The OTHER Whites giving up their stuff. Like republicans because those are the bad whites, they're the good guys who vote democrat so they're not on the hook for anything.
 
No precedent set before matches the absolute weirdness of modern-day Democratic ideology, no precedent set before matches the absolute fervor of millions politically-retarded children parroting political talking points because of Twitter and other social media talking platforms; modern inventions and factors are the only things that create and give credence to those happenings and events. Collapse is an extremely slow, gradual process but to think that we're going to endlessly keep recycling these events and 'going back to the status quo' as if things never happened, ignoring the fact that eventually a build-up does start to occur and things start to happen in dominos is just unrealistic - something's gotta give, eventually, as more and more people get pissed off..yes, they calm down, but it's not like that resentment magically vanishes; some of the 'generational resentment' built up during the 60's-70's is used as a fucking talking point throughout this entire conflict. It all goes somewhere, and no status quo survives forever, friendo, that's just Human history.

There was a fair amount of leftist violence in the 70s too. What's different this time is that it's much easier and faster to disseminate information--true, false, or in between--and there's a lot more evidence that all of this is being astroturfed. I'm guessing the majority of the Twitterati have no idea that they're just useful idiots at the end of the day, and that even in the event of a landslide victory for the Democrats in November, they're not going to get what they want. They'll just keep huffing their own farts about how they totally defeated Bad Orange Man and close their eyes to the fact that life didn't actually change all that much for black communities at the end of the day.
 
I wonder if the bodycam footage would really turn the tables on what everyone's perception of Floyd was in the first place. If that happened then all of this was for naught. All the property destroyed, all those lives ruined, and all that time lost. Ahmaud Arbery was really getting pushed hard until more and more records and bodycam footage started coming out that showcased what a really good jogger he was.
A lot of us have already gotten there. I am basically of the opinion that Chauvin did nothing wrong. Maybe froze up a little under pressure--all the bystanders pointing cameras at him probably caused a great deal of stress--and made some suboptimal choices. I'm not sure he did anything that would be considered a criminal act, and if he did, I'm sure it was negligent rather than intentional, knowing, or reckless.

After skimming some more ActBlue filings, I'm starting to develop a theory. They have to do lots of corrections where they tell the FEC, "Oops, we attributed this contribution to Person A, but it really came from Person B." That could be a way of getting around contribution limits. If Person A contributes the limit + $100, they could reassign the $100 to Person B, a small donor who will never approach the limit. Someone who had knowledge of this scheme might make many small donations in excess of their contribution limit so those small donations could be conveniently reassigned to small donors. After ActBlue received the RFAI in April, they would've gotten scared and refunded those donations instead. (See Yorkin and Walk in my previous post.)
 
There was a fair amount of leftist violence in the 70s too. What's different this time is that it's much easier and faster to disseminate information--true, false, or in between--and there's a lot more evidence that all of this is being astroturfed. I'm guessing the majority of the Twitterati have no idea that they're just useful idiots at the end of the day, and that even in the event of a landslide victory for the Democrats in November, they're not going to get what they want. They'll just keep huffing their own farts about how they totally defeated Bad Orange Man and close their eyes to the fact that life didn't actually change all that much for black communities at the end of the day.

Were they humbled and embarrassed when the Covington students were smeared and slandered? No?

They know what they're doing.
 
Even as someone who's clearly in opposition to much of your rhetoric I get the point of being suspicious of "white nationalist" talk - it's wise to be suspicious of anything radical because it fucking glows but the reality is that white supremacists, white nationalists and spergs of all fucking types under those umbrellas will continue crawling out of the woodwork because the reality is that the majority of 'Suburbanite' youth are some of the most bored fucking people on the planet, obsessed with social media and the trends present in social media (how many fucking surbubanites do you think are involved in the riots? A lot, just as many as there are getting angry about this shit and wanting to express that frustration) and will continue flouting these things so long as they're a trend and they'll continue being a trend at least up until election time and so long as this shit is continuously flouted, angry spergs and educated people alike will both be drawn to our talking points, in one way or another; it's a bit jumping-the-gun to fucking distrust us all because the longer this continues, the more of 'us' makes up the other side.

Make no mistake, you're right that it's pointless to fall into doomerism and mass-shooterism at this conjecture simply because it's just fucking dumb and for the overall American, life is going to continue regardless of what's happening and that's just Human nature in action but that doesn't change the fact that we're slowly reaching a point where internal conflict, division, and Twilight Zone-esque political demonstrations are exceeding the wildness of the 60's-70's - the 60's-70's were a lot more organized and predictable..this has grown to be enormously unpredictable and it doesn't change the fact that there's been a fuckton of innocent people victimized by everything that's going on and you'd be hard-pressed to tell the families and friends of those people that it will simply get better when they see political radicals literally out in the street beating the shit out of their loved ones for whichever reason.

No precedent set before matches the absolute weirdness of modern-day Democratic ideology, no precedent set before matches the absolute fervor of millions politically-retarded children parroting political talking points because of Twitter and other social media talking platforms; modern inventions and factors are the only things that create and give credence to those happenings and events. Collapse is an extremely slow, gradual process but to think that we're going to endlessly keep recycling these events and 'going back to the status quo' as if things never happened, ignoring the fact that eventually a build-up does start to occur and things start to happen in dominos is just unrealistic - something's gotta give, eventually, as more and more people get pissed off..yes, they calm down, but it's not like that resentment magically vanishes; some of the 'generational resentment' built up during the 60's-70's is used as a fucking talking point throughout this entire conflict. It all goes somewhere, and no status quo survives forever, friendo, that's just Human history.
I wasn't espousing any rhetoric, just my personal observations. I also don't know anyone who had their loved ones beaten by political radicals unless they were with said radicals in the first place and made statements/did things the BLM types find unacceptable. Or were unfortunate to drive into a "protest". I agree it's awful and upsetting.

I'm staying away from Harlem and certain parts of Brooklyn and Queens because I try to avoid those places anyway. As for social media, you do realize most people don't pay attention to it, right?

I've traveled around the USA and it's not at all like countries south of the border or Eastern Europe. I believe the reason these "protests" and violence are being spammed constantly by the media and social networks is to provoke the very response you have. Outside the blue strongholds (except rural areas) people are armed to the the teeth dude. No way this flies in the unincorporated areas of Comanche County OK for example. Or even Western NY. Americans are generally nice folks, maybe too nice but they also have a strong individualistic streak. No communist is going to be welcomed in rural flyover states. That's been my experience, Your mileage may vary.
 
floyd is irrelevant now
the fire has already spread
you could show footage of him being a nazi and or raping someone
and everyone would just go "YEAH BUT WERE TRYING TO START A CONVERSATION HERE, ACAB!!!!"
and just go on
floyd will be completely forgotten by 2021
george who? never heard of him. #ACAB #WhiteBad
 
I wasn't espousing any rhetoric, just my personal observations. I also don't know anyone who had their loved ones beaten by political radicals unless they were with said radicals in the first place and made statements/did things the BLM types find unacceptable. Or were unfortunate to drive into a "protest". I agree it's awful and upsetting.

I'm staying away from Harlem and certain parts of Brooklyn and Queens because I try to avoid those places anyway. As for social media, you do realize most people don't pay attention to it, right?

I've traveled around the USA and it's not at all like countries south of the border or Eastern Europe. I believe the reason these "protests" and violence are being spammed constantly by the media and social networks is to provoke the very response you have. Outside the blue strongholds (except rural areas) people are armed to the the teeth dude. No way this flies in the unincorporated areas of Comanche County OK for example. Or even Western NY. Americans are generally nice folks, maybe too nice but they also have a strong individualistic streak. No communist is going to be welcomed in rural flyover states. That's been my experience, Your mileage may vary.

Don't worry, when I refer to 'rhetoric' I really just mean the shit you're saying at the time, don't take any greater implication from the term; the problem is saying 'most people don't pay attention to social media' doesn't exactly apply anymore, my guy - it did to a greater extent 10-15 years ago but now as this generation and the generation after it continues to mature and continues to express opinions and formulate them, this takes a greater volume and medium because uhh, yeah, most of our generation is plugged into some form of social media and every form of social media has been invaded with this shit - I live in a rural community in the South, and it's fairly peaceful here and I expect it to remain peaceful due to the fact it's a rural white community in the South but that doesn't change the fact that every metropolitan area - every hub of everything vital in this country aside from agriculture and remote manufacturing - is just slowly, more and more, becoming overwhelmed by this shit; the city that I live outside of, is majority black, and did witness protests, and some looting - Hell, I knew a couple of people that worked overnight at a 24 hr gas station that for some reason remained open on the first night, and got looted. Sheetz, I believe. None of them gave a shit about any of this until that happened and our small little city? Never impacted by a single BLM protest or anything of that nature DESPITE being majority-black (AND BLUE.) before this shit happened...none of the police killings prior, none of the race issues prior, none of the lootings prior, none of it ever impacted this small community.

You're right that my sort of response is knowingly provoked by MSM but the idea that the MSM would be fine with creating a legion of random ass white supremacists isn't exactly accurate - just as much as they're aware that the sort of response I present is provoked, they're well-convinced of the idea that the majority of cosmopolitan America supports them and right now it's hard to say that it doesn't..so long as that media-fueled structure of American society continues to rabidly support their bullshit talking points, it'll continue to drag more and more people either way; the millions of morons going on and on about political awareness right now (yes, somehow it has morphed into a couple million users at least, just judging by YouTube, Twitter, etc.) and societal awareness would've been an entire mass of uninformed, apathetic, don't-give-a-fuck-don't-know people 30 years ago..it is only because of today and the ease of dissemination of information that those people are aware of anything and care about anything going on; what accelerates all of this? A pandemic that causes an indecisive government to throttle shutdowns and then throttle reopening procedures back and forth, further exacerbating people, and this isn't going anywhere anytime soon - it's all very perfect storm-ish.

Regardless, I don't look at every random brown person as my enemy, every atheist or some shit as my enemy (although I can't lie and say I don't see the majority of niggers as an enemy at this point.), or every random immigrant as my enemy..this is America, not Europe, but it doesn't change where I stand, where a growing number of random ass white people stand on issues - or apparently where the mainstream media stands on inciting tribalism; you and I are not the same but you certainly aren't someone I consider "opposition" in a time like this, going full Apocalyse Now on every even-remotely differing viewpoint affords us too little resources and minds as a whole - at least at the moment.
 
Lol some of the greatest human atrocities in history were created under Christianity. Stop getting philosophical, what you really want is a return to the early internet era.
I'd really like it if Atheists would at least pretend they are anything more than anti-Christian. Like where are the criticisms against Hindu anti-Muslim programs in India or extreme Buddhism in Burma Myanmar? I could mention stuff about Islam too but honestly that is just low hanging fruit. You only hear about Christian and only Christian atrocities from people who supposedly claim to be against religion in general.

Now to be fair: I don't really care about any of the above incidents I listed, I just find the double-standards rather tiresome.
 
I'd really like it if Atheists would at least pretend they are anything more than anti-Christian. Like where are the criticisms against Hindu anti-Muslim programs in India or extreme Buddhism in Burma Myanmar? I could mention stuff about Islam too but honestly that is just low hanging fruit. You only hear about Christian and only Christian atrocities from people who supposedly claim to be against religion in general.

Now to be fair: I don't really care about any of the above incidents I listed, I just find the double-standards rather tiresome.
These people will unironically go on endlessly about muh crusades and how ignorant and vicious Christians are and yet don't even know about 'The League of Militant Athiests" and their ilk.

Like we get it you hate your evangelical parents but are driven by the same mindless impulses as they are. Shut the fuck up already.
 
I'd really like it if Atheists would at least pretend they are anything more than anti-Christian. Like where are the criticisms against Hindu anti-Muslim programs in India or extreme Buddhism in Burma Myanmar? I could mention stuff about Islam too but honestly that is just low hanging fruit. You only hear about Christian and only Christian atrocities from people who supposedly claim to be against religion in general.

Now to be fair: I don't really care about any of the above incidents I listed, I just find the double-standards rather tiresome.
Ehn, I’m not religious, but I don’t hate Christianity. It’s so entwined with the culture I grew up in, I think a lot of people are culturally Christian even if they’re not church goers.
Have to say as well that the current Marxist madness makes me very suspicious of those actively dunking on Christianity. Single issue stuff like priest misbehaviour needs dealt with, but those who are trying to dismantle Christianity as a whole seem to have a lot of overlap with those who are trying to tear down everything good about western culture. Hearing the Archbishop of Canterbury talk about removing statues in Westminster abbey made me feel quite vexed, to put it mildly.
 
I'd really like it if Atheists would at least pretend they are anything more than anti-Christian. Like where are the criticisms against Hindu anti-Muslim programs in India or extreme Buddhism in Burma Myanmar? I could mention stuff about Islam too but honestly that is just low hanging fruit. You only hear about Christian and only Christian atrocities from people who supposedly claim to be against religion in general.

Now to be fair: I don't really care about any of the above incidents I listed, I just find the double-standards rather tiresome.
The realization that it makes more sense that there is probably no god(s) was actually profoundly disappointing to me. It was something I didn't want to be true and it left a hole. As far as religion goes, I'm fine with any branch of it that's been de-fanged. As long as it's just a fun club that gives people a sense of place in the universe without them destroying others who don't share their beliefs, I'm fine with them. I'd have to say Islam is the current most fanged religion, so that's actually the one I had the most problems with. People can still protest with signs about God Hates Fags, and I don't actually care. Words can hurt, but not when you make peace with yourself, then it just becomes part of the tapestry of life. Killing people because they are gay is beyond where I have drawn the line.
 
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