Culture Reddit Officially Bans /r/ChapoTrapHouse and /r/The_Donald - More than 2,000 communities are being removed on Monday for violating Reddit’s new content policies

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Reddit will ban r/The_Donald, r/ChapoTrapHouse, and about 2,000 other communities today after updating its content policy to more explicitly ban hate speech. The policy update comes three weeks after Black Lives Matter protests led several popular Reddit forums to go dark temporarily in protest of what they called the company’s lax policies around hosting and promoting racist content. It marks a major reversal for a company whose commitment to free expression has historically been so strong that it once allowed users to distribute stolen nude photos freely on the site.

“I have to admit that I’ve struggled with balancing my values as an American, and around free speech and free expression, with my values and the company’s values around common human decency,” Reddit CEO Steve Huffman said in a call with reporters.

In a blog post that cites the company’s new rules, Huffman said users of the r/The_Donald subreddit had violated the site’s policies for years. (The site has no official connection to President Donald Trump, although he did do an Ask Me Anything there as a candidate in 2016.) “The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations,” Huffman said.

Similarly, r/ChapoTrapHouse had also hosted content that violates the site’s rules, Huffman said. The subreddit is a spinoff of the popular left-wing podcast.

Reddit’s new policy begins with a first rule that requires users to “consider the human.” It reads:
Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Everyone has a right to use Reddit free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence. Communities and people that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
That formed the basis of a policy framework that bans hate speech.

“Reddit’s mission is to bring community and belonging to everybody in the world, and there is speech in the world and on Reddit that prevents other people from doing so,” Huffman told reporters. “Harassing speech or hateful speech prevents people from coming to Reddit and feeling safe and sharing their vulnerabilities ... So if we have speech on Reddit that’s preventing people from using Reddit the way that we intend it to be used, or that prevents us from achieving our mission, then it’s actually a very easy decision.”

The introduction of the new policies has resulted in the removal of about 2,000 subreddits so far, and the company says “the vast majority” were inactive. Only about 200 of them had more than 10 daily users, the company said. They include:
  • r/DarkHumorAndMemes
  • r/ConsumeProduct
  • r/DarkJokeCentral
  • r/GenderCritical
  • r/Cumtown
  • r/imgoingtohellforthis2
  • r/Wojak
  • r/soyboys
Last year, Reddit “quarantined” r/The_Donald, placing it behind a warning screen after it was found to host content that incited violence. The company had previously prevented posts on the forum from reaching Reddit’s front page. Former users of the forum began moving to a new site off Reddit last year.

While Monday’s removals hit some high-profile political communities, Huffman said the company would continue to support a broad range of political speech.

“Political speech continues to be safe,” Huffman said. “But all communities, including our political communities, have to abide by our policies. And while we will do everything we can to help bring them in line, if they fail in doing so they are not allowed on Reddit.”

While r/The_Donald has no official connection to Trump, Reddit’s move could draw the ire of the president. Trump’s campaign complained after Snap removed him from promotion in Snapchat’s Discover tab earlier this month, and after Twitter began placing warnings on some of the president’s tweets.

At the same time, the company has been under more pressure to remove hate speech. Among the critics has been former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao, who earlier this month said r/The_Donald should have been removed long ago. “You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence,” she said in a tweet directed at Huffman. “So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don’t get to say BLM when Reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all day long.”
 
I'm honestly surprised they banned Chapo and Cumtown at all, I always figured that when they did finally ban The Donald subreddit, they wouldn't even put up a pretense of going after both sides.

But at the same time, if they were going to try a "both sides" purge, Chapo would be at the top of the list of candidates, and that's exactly what they did.

Same reason why Facebook banned Louis Farrakhan in addition to a bunch of right-wingers a while back.
Well, yes, chapo certainly was at the top of the list. The thing is, last time I visited Reddit - which admittedly was years ago - there was no shortage of far-left subs promoting actual murder of people. Nothing was done to those at the time.
 
Honestly, the most obvious alternative to reddit is 4chan at this point.
Maybe those groups could be steered to 9ch or some such? There's no chance decent moderators will ever be available on 4ch, it is run to antagonize its userbase.

Stefan Molyneux, RADIX, and American Renaissance got banned from YouTube
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Milquetoast Molyneux got banned?! They really are going all out to rig these and all future elections.
 
Honestly, the most obvious alternative to reddit is 4chan at this point. It's the only site that seems to be successful and yet have that weird feeling that it's 'competing' with these corporate giants. It's probably one of the few remaining places you can call someone a nígger or faggot online if that means anything :^)
Over time the typical user now probably uses both and a LOT of people from reddit migrated to 4chan, this will absolutely encourage more people to use it.
Only thing is that you can't actually make your own board,
The only place that is "free" on 4chan is /pol/, but because of constant attempts to raid it and retard lefty janitors it has turned to shit. On 4channel they will ban you for off topic posting relating to politics. They will ban you if you are racist or hold politically incorrect opinions, but luckily this is still not too widespread, and most of the time these posts go under the radar. It's not all lost, but it's certainly not favourable either
 
4chan's /pol/ is full of Wojackfags and people from subreddits that got shoah'd REEing about it and looking for a new home.

Honestly, the most obvious alternative to reddit is 4chan at this point.

Just rename the entire fucking thing "Reddit 2: Electric Boogaloo", At this point neither one are indistinguishable from each other.

I mean, did anyone watch that "/v/3" stream 4Chan aired? Shit was Cancer x100
 
What the actual fuck?

Reddit didn't think that statement through very well. Its literally saying people can hurl abuse and hate at you if you're 'in the majority' and we all know what they mean by that. Its almost as though reddit has forgotten that there are literally civil rights laws in place in the US that prohibit both committing such abuse due to race and knowingly facilitating it. Civil rights laws that a person can make an issue of it and cause all kinds of problems for the company if they get pushed into doing so

Not that they are stupid enough to pick that hill to die on. They're not going to win that one if someone makes an issue of it. They would back track, remove whatever provoked it and settle if someone was abused enough to make an issue of it. To do otherwise would be monumentally stupid for the company
 
What the actual fuck?
This is what we call "full mask-off". They're so sure that they're untouchable that they're explicitly creating two categories of people and telling the ubermenschen "have at the disgusting subhumans, we won't stop you because we hate them". It's been their philosophy for years, but now they have no reason to hide it.
 
so is there a good reddit alternative that people are going to? I can't imagine any site that has the nerve to compete with corporate giants would be successful due to corporate censorship.
Also, very surprisingly, the subreddit meta Canada wasn't banned

Ruqqus it is built on the idea of everything that Reddit is not however down their servers crashed a lot and there's not much of an community yet
 
The real question is where will the r/The_Donald members migrant to now?

Gab, Parler, /pol/? Expect a few of them to come here.

And will they be welcomed with open arms?
Parler is more draconian that Twitter, they are more ban-happy than Twitter. The management there is loco. They won't even let users delete their accounts, have to be approved by management. It is also a closed platform, only visible to members and requires phone number to use. It's DOA.

Banning Chapo House as well as putting it in the headline gives off the Sacha Baron Cohen illusion of "both sides" when really they go soft on one and go hard on the centrists, righties, and apoliticals who just wanna make jokes.
Prediction: CTH on Reddit will continue unabated under a different flag.
 
When they ban your channel, does that mean all videos posted get deleted or he is able to download and post them to Bitchute.
Previous banned entities have claimed that they lost a lot of content when banned. I think they're screwed if they don't have their own copies. If the videos are claimed to violate whatever bogus rule, they're obligated to delete them. If they have offended enough to get the whole channel banned, I think they off the thing wholesale.

It seems this was leaked ahead of time, the reddit bans?
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Whenever I tried to use Reddit, all I ever saw were:
  • Stale memes (lifted from somewhere else, or using some ancient unfunny template)
  • Celebrities shilling their latest project
  • Companies shilling their latest product
  • Midwit estrogentlemen making blatantly ignorant comments (anybody else got banned or downvoted)
  • Spam (often in disguise; onsite ads are clickable graphics designed to resemble a genuine post)
  • Perpetually-butthurt moderators so bad at their "job" they make @zedkissed60 look competent
Yet at the same time, I noticed any Google search for anything controversial typically tacks "reddit" at the end. This could just be Google and Reddit forming a symbiotic relationship, but I think it means people trust Reddit posts (typically obscure ones) to be input from actual humans, rather than an automated comment generator.

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However itinerant the conversation, it was a viable alternative to journalists or paid actors trying to poison the well with terrible articles. With Reddit purging so much more aggressively, the one use I suspect Reddit has will evaporate. The question is whether or not it will dip in stock price as badly as Tumblr did, as a direct result.
 
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