your right about the voting system, having likes and dislikes on a website at all is a bad idea, or at least it seems so to me. if a site is going to have likes though, I think the system the farms has is good, because unlike reddit, you can't be silenced because people don't like you. this leads me into my point, which is this: it was doomed to fail from the beginning, having a system that gives/takes visibility based on the opinion of the masses is so dumb I can't believe the people who made reddit even thought it was a good idea. contrast that to something like 4chan/any chan really, and you see why the latter is always associated with having the best memes/bantz/whatever. it's partially romanticism, but a good portion of the idea that the chans are the best places for memes is mostly correct. an anonymous site, with the only sorting system being how recent a thread was posted, is a prime environment for weeding out shitty content. any thread that gets ignored falls away, and active ones bump back to the top. your right about 4chan having broader topics, but I have always seen it's success as a consequence of it's lack of censorship, both from the mods and from the community. throw anonymity into the mix and you are FORCED to base your opinion on the ideas in the post, and not the account of the op, i.e. there is no: "sweaty, I just looked through your post history, and oh sweet summer child, I thought this was the 21st century, blah blah blah..."
all in all, lack of censorship and "vooting" makes a better site than one that utilizes voting and censorship.
tl didn't read:
yet another post saying "OmG Le 4ChAn iS EpIc AnD BaSeD aNd ReDdIt Is CrInGe"
IMO 4chan cannot handle a ton of users. while normally things run smoothly on large boards like /v/ I see "(you) farming" where people seem to make there post fit a meme format or stir up shit so they can get attention and the thread wont die. Small boards are perfect though.
Is it true that the admin moot no longer cares about the site? its a shame if true because 4chan and 2chan (the text only japan version) seem to have had 10 times more soul (I know its a buzzword and I dont care) than most sites. it sucks that I wasnt on it in the 2000s because it would have been right up my alley
these days however kiwi farms has the most soul of any site. mainly because we are united around our hatred of smug internet retards so our community has very few of them if any.
What was that one comment I read on 4chan about reddit? I think it went, "On reddit, it's a bunch of dumb people pretending to be smart. On 4chan, it's a bunch of smart people pretending to be dumb."
jersh saves the day again. I wonder how /pol/ is going to cope with all the alt-lite retards who are going to migrate there, should be something interesting to watch.
IMO 4chan cannot handle a ton of users. while normally things run smoothly on large boards like /v/ I see "(you) farming" where people seem to make there post fit a meme format or stir up shit so they can get attention and the thread wont die. Small boards are perfect though.
Is it true that the admin moot no longer cares about the site? its a shame if true because 4chan and 2chan (the text only japan version) seem to have had 10 times more soul (I know its a buzzword and I dont care) than most sites. it sucks that I wasnt on it in the 2000s because it would have been right up my alley
these days however kiwi farms has the most soul of any site. mainly because we are united around our hatred of smug internet retards so our community has very few of them if any.
moot left years ago, he made the place when he was 15 after all, I doubt he was ready for it to get huge, especially now that the media has attacked it over and over. it has hiroshimoot now
Reminder that it's liberal irreligious Jews who are pushing commieshit censorship, Zionists and religious Jews with traditional values are on our side.
In case you were wondering, Reddit's new ADL approved rules SPECIFICALLY ALLOW RACISM against White people, Sexism against Men, Bigotry against Heterosexuals, Harassment of "cis" (normal) people by Troons, et cetera.
moot left years ago, he made the place when he was 15 after all, I doubt he was ready for it to get huge, especially now that the media has attacked it over and over. it has hiroshimoot now
Moot's been gone for years. He tried to start a place called Canvas and it crashed and burned within a few years, then gave up entirely, quit 4chan, and sold it the founder of 2channel Hiroyuki Nishimura. Moot has since fucked off to Japan and works for Google now.
i'll grab my popcorn when it does. I heard something a while ago about reddit having financial troubles, does anyone know anything about that?
if it goes like tumblr did, I assume the fallout would be worse because of the sheer number of retards who use the site
i'll grab my popcorn when it does. I heard something a while ago about reddit having financial troubles, does anyone know anything about that?
if it goes like tumblr did, I assume the fallout would be worse because of the sheer number of retards who use the site
I wouldn't be surprised if all of the big social media sites have money problems and are just being kept alive because they're great for social engineering.
The only people I've seen "rise to fame" on that site were destroyed by it.
Saydrah - Created the early-reddit catchphrase "The narwhal bacons at midnight" while hanging out in Denver International Airport one day. Was later caught working in marketing and talking about how reddit can be used to promote products (literally how most social media marketing works today). Redditors threw and absolute shit fit and chased her off the site and tried to get her fired.
Unidan - Was the "science guy" for reddit until he got in an argument about the proper name for a certain black corvid. Then he got banned. The original claim was he was banned for the argument, but then the official reason reddit gave was "upvote manipulation".
Victoria Taylor - Former reddit AMA interviewer. Fired by Alexis Ohanian because he wanted to take over the AMA section.
Gallowboob, Shitty_Watercolor, and friends - Used reddit for marketing their own businesses and projects because they got no support from the site for anything they were doing on the site. (Compare with a place like YouTube that says "Hey, we see you're drawing a lot of traffic to the site. Let's work together). Gallowboob also used his reddit karma on his CV. Make of that what you will.
Luna Lovewell - Prolific /r/WritingPrompts user. Became pretty famous, tried to leverage that for her own writing. Failed hardcore.
Prufrock451 - Wrote a short story called "Rome Sweet Rome" which got picked up by "Hollywood" and then immediately fell into obscurity. Appears to have sold his reddit account.
Huh, so reddit really isn't a place for people to try and do anything with their lives than.
Honestly, I'm not saying it as a joke, with the sizable userbase the website has had, you would think we would get a pewdiepie or E.L. James, but... nothing.
Look at the whites in South Africa. They're only 10% and the hatred has only increased. Every rule anti-whites make is just a temporary thing that is to be discarded when the time is right. They won't stop hating whites and attacking them for wanting representation until whites are all gone. Fortunately white people are quickly learning this fact and are becoming more and more uncomfortable. I expected whites to wake up by 2040, but the way things are going in 2020 it might be as early as 2030.
Many were predicting the tech monopolies would ratchet up their censorship in the pre-election stage to make up for dropping the ball in 2016. However, the blatant and unsubtle manner in which it is being done makes me wonder if it will backfire on the bergs.
I don't know where else to put this as I'm not aware of a thread for "shitlibs who put on ancap hats to defend censorship on the internet", so if anybody wants to point me in the right direction or move the post, please for the love of fuck do it. This isn't about Reddit itself so much as corporate takeover of the internet, making sites corporate-friendly under the visage of "preventing hate speech" or what the fuck ever, and shitlibs cheering as it happens in general. But here's an infodump for you guys, and a set of salient questions based upon it.
Anyone paying attention to this shit knows about the MATCH List thing, and how MasterCard and other financial institutions are using it as a back door blacklist for inconvenient speech on the internet especially post-SESTA/FOSTA and post-COPPA ruling. If you don't and need to get up to speed just Google it, because that's not part of the info I'm dumping here.
Who gives a fuck, right? Well, the state of media consolidation in the US is such that four companies own and control over 90% of all media consumed by Americans. That's an older infographic that doesn't take into account consolidation over the past four years: GE is no longer in the picture and that's NBCUniversal, NewsCorp isn't even on the map after divesting 21st Century Fox entertainment holdings to Disney, AT&T and Time Warner merged, and Viacom and CBS re-merged (which is pointless anyways, they're both owned by National Amusements). So we're left with a "big four" landscape: AT&T, Comcast, Disney, and ViacomCBS.
Well, what about FANG's you might ask? Surely this is about electronic freedoms, never mind how in the wake of the several adpocalypses Youtube has become increasingly corporatized, favorable to those four corporations' channels in recommendations and promotions, and increasingly hostile towards independent creators. What about Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, and Google?
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sensing a pattern. You might be saying, "yeah of course, these are major mutual funds and asset management firms, this is what they do", and you'd be correct. This also means they have a vested financial interest in these corporations' growth, and power to influence corporate policy.
If, say, MATCH List were to be abused to blacklist potential competition to Facebook, Twitter, Google, and YouTube as we saw with Gab, BitChute, Voat, and what will happen to Parler, the former benefits because they stay the only game in town. Or, alternatively, if the threat of financial blacklisting were to be weaponized against extant platforms like YouTube and Reddit, the media "big four" benefit because their oligopoly over content production and distribution is preserved. And that, in turn, brings us back to the first point: who owns what shares of MasterCard, and therefore is in a position to influence how MATCH List is operated and used?
So what happens when the same institutions have significant stake in all of the above? Does this not constitute a massive series of conflicted interests? Shareholders are the only people and institutions to which any and all of the above-listed media corporations are accountable, and the only overriding priority is to make profit. How is this in any way permissible, and are people who would support this really comfortable allowing Wall Street to declare itself the sole determiner of truth and free expression?
Many were predicting the tech monopolies would ratchet up their censorship in the pre-election stage to make up for dropping the ball in 2016. However, the blatant and unsubtle manner in which it is being done makes me wonder if it will backfire on the bergs.
It's gonna backfire, I have no doubt about it. This is the beginning of the end for Reddit. The revolutionaries are being fucking clumsy.
Now is prime time for techy types with big (and I mean big, this won't be easy) balls to try to start something new. The censorship diaspora needs a place to go.
