Trump Derangement Syndrome - Orange man bad. Read the OP! (ᴛʜɪs ᴛʜʀᴇᴀᴅ ɪs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴋɪᴡɪ ғᴀʀᴍs ʀᴇᴠɪᴇᴡs ɴᴏᴡ) 🗿🗿🗿🗿

This was also why I recommended Jim Henson, since the most you can say about him was he was a workaholic who was bad at facing confrontation (he literally would just walk away after grunting since he never liked arguing) and expressing himself (he was noteworthy for just hmm'ing if he liked what you created, and he grunted if he thought it sucked).

Fred Rogers would've also been a good candidate, but I think Jim deserves a bit more credit.
Walt Disney, Carl Sagan.

Shit Motherfucking Stan Lee.
 
Here's the first 30 people Trump wants to put in his National Garden.
  • George Washington
  • Thomas Jefferson
  • Betsy Ross
  • Alexander Hamilton
  • Ben Franklin
  • John Adams
  • James Maidson
  • Dolly Madison
  • Frederick Douglass
  • Abraham Lincoln
  • Harriet Tubman
  • Harriet Beecher Stowe
  • Joshua Chamberlain
  • Clara Barton
  • Daniel Boon
  • Davey Crocket
  • Henry Clay
  • Susan B Anthony
  • Booker T Washingon
  • The Wright Brothers
  • Amelia Earhart
  • Jackie Robinson
  • George S Patton
  • Douglas MacArthur
  • Audie Murphy
  • Billy Graham
  • MLK
  • Ronald Regan
  • Christa McAuliffe
  • Antonin Scalia
He's open for suggestions and said the public would be able to make some. I mentioned in the riot thread I'd like to see folks like D. W. Griffith and Orson Welles for their contribution to film. No one gives a fuck about Griffith but Welles' estate might bitch about it. Thinking about it more, Bob Dylan should be in there, for his contribution to Music.

Others in the thread mentioned Andrew Jackson, Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Henry Ford being missing too.
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Give it to me straight Kiwis, how do you think the media will spin this monument? They're all racists, self hating, birthed an evil country?
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Both of the historians cited shockingly dont like Trump (yeah Im shocked too). But tbf Crossman just has a dislike of him while Karen (yes that is indeed her name) has full blown TDS:
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The level of spin is frankly amazing. This is some... Wait a minute... (((Rucker))), (((Costa))) oh okay now I get it.
 
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lol, a monument that is designed to have Booker T Washington, Harriet Tubman, Beecher Stowe, and Jackie Robinson is racist. Hilarious case of how idiots like the shitty article and those two tards think overrepresentation = fair.

How dare we know history, it makes it harder for these mongs to lie without those pre-existing examples of failure.
 
lol, a monument that is designed to have Booker T Washington, Harriet Tubman, Beecher Stowe, and Jackie Robinson is racist. Hilarious case of how idiots like the shitty article and those two tards think overrepresentation = fair.

How dare we know history, it makes it harder for these mongs to lie without those pre-existing examples of failure.

No, see, he's just covering up his white nationalism by pretending to honor black people in the same facility he's actually honoring white people! How do you know he's pretending? Well duh, he's racist, so obviously his putting the black people there doesn't count and it actually just proves even more he's racist!
 
Here's the first 30 people Trump wants to put in his National Garden.
  • George Washington
  • Thomas Jefferson
  • Betsy Ross
  • Alexander Hamilton
  • Ben Franklin
  • John Adams
  • James Maidson
  • Dolly Madison
  • Frederick Douglass
  • Abraham Lincoln
  • Harriet Tubman
  • Harriet Beecher Stowe
  • Joshua Chamberlain
  • Clara Barton
  • Daniel Boon
  • Davey Crocket
  • Henry Clay
  • Susan B Anthony
  • Booker T Washingon
  • The Wright Brothers
  • Amelia Earhart
  • Jackie Robinson
  • George S Patton
  • Douglas MacArthur
  • Audie Murphy
  • Billy Graham
  • MLK
  • Ronald Regan
  • Christa McAuliffe
  • Antonin Scalia
He's open for suggestions and said the public would be able to make some. I mentioned in the riot thread I'd like to see folks like D. W. Griffith and Orson Welles for their contribution to film. No one gives a fuck about Griffith but Welles' estate might bitch about it. Thinking about it more, Bob Dylan should be in there, for his contribution to Music.

Others in the thread mentioned Andrew Jackson, Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Henry Ford being missing too.
George Washington Carver, if not for him we wouldn't have half the irrigation techniques that would allow us to be the fat asses we are, also the man was a chemical genius and was close friends with Ford and was one of the people that got Detroit to be what it once was. Dude was literally creating Hybrid rubber trees and making a line of plant based gasoline before he passed. Listen I could go on talking about this man but understand if Booker T Washington is in it Carver deserves to be in it.

Who hijacked your account?

The riots changed a lot of people, @The Last Stand moved more to the right after them.


Damn you got us, how dare we say we value freedom over all else than get pissed when our freedoms are removed because tards decided to burn their city down and make covid spike again.
 
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George Washington Carver, if not for him we wouldn't have half the irrigation techniques that would allow us to be the fat asses we are, also the man was a chemical genius and was close friends with Ford and was one of the people that got Detroit to be what it once was. Dude was literally creating Hybrid rubber trees and making a line of plant based gasoline before he passed. Listen I could go on talking about this man but understand if Booker T Washington is in it Carver deserves to be in it.



The riots changed a lot of people, @The Last Stand moved more to the right after them.

I need to read up on Carver. Schools only focused on his monumental peanut butter accomplishments which led me to believe he was a bit of a meme. I'll be glad to be wrong about this!

How could the riots, the coverage and the apology for them, and the sparks that started them not change sensible people?

It's gonna get worse when its officially recognized that St. Floyd died of a heart attack due to the drugs in his system and Chauvin gets off.

(Chauvin is still a dick and should get punished but he won't. No reason to hold him down like that for 8 minutes straight. Especially after you hear he has no pulse.:()
 
I need to read up on Carver. Schools only focused on his monumental peanut butter accomplishments which led me to believe he was a bit of a meme. I'll be glad to be wrong about this!

How could the riots, the coverage and the apology for them, and the sparks that started them not change sensible people?

It's gonna get worse when its officially recognized that St. Floyd died of a heart attack due to the drugs in his system and Chauvin gets off.

(Chauvin is still a dick and should get punished but he won't. No reason to hold him down like that for 8 minutes straight. Especially after you hear he has no pulse.:()
I'm starting to buy into the "Chauvin was in on the racket and tying a loose end" scenario, especially since they were both moonlighting at a cartel-owned business. He really was out there trying to kill him. Not because he was black, but because he was gonna snitch if he was in jail.
 
I need to read up on Carver. Schools only focused on his monumental peanut butter accomplishments which led me to believe he was a bit of a meme. I'll be glad to be wrong about this!

He's well worth reading into, the man got the shaft by the P.C. crowd since a majority of his work is based on the ethos that the black man needed to make their own wealth and that if your work is good enough everyone regardless of race will come to you for advice. Hence why he got relegated to le peanut man, he was a freed slave that taught self reliance and any black historical figure that does that gets the axe.


I don't want to bog down the thread too much but a short summary is , he was born a slave, freed, went to an agricultural college, pioneered a majority of the techniques used to keep lands usable, Pioneered irrigation systems that allowed farmers to grow more crops, spent his youth giving black people land and teaching them how to be wealthy with it, worked several times with Teddy to help the struggling farmers of the U.S., impressed Ford so much that the man bought Carvers home and paid him a great sum to work for him part time, helped repair the U.S. after the dustbowl. and spent most of his free time turning financially worthless crops into money makers.

The reason he is known as the peanut butter guy is partialy because peanuts restored vital nutrients to soil quicker and more effectivley than crops or even fertilizers and by only dedicating one season to growing peanuts farmers could re-use the land for cash cow crops, I.E. tabaco, that would often remove most vital nutrients from the soil. He spent quite a bit of his freetime trying to make Peanuts, a financialy worthless crop, into something that could be sold for high profits or atleast be usable by the farmers. One of his many inventions ended up being peanut butter, which did a great job of being a cheap and easy food item with a long shelf life. Another reason is because relegating him as peanut man means you get to ignore the decades he spent teaching black farmers how to farm better than their previous owners and how to keep the land from becoming worthless. His philosophy was that they were free now and they had to honor the men who died to free them to succeed. The final reason is because Ford treasured their friendship and thought the man was a genius, I kid you not he found and bought the house Carver was born in and brought it to his greenfield village and made sure it would be used as a way to teach the horrors of slavery. He put the man on the same level as Edison but you can't be humanizing ford though so a lot of his later work got memory holed.

It's just funny he was brought into the white house to discuss farming techniques with the president since the farms Carver taught did far better than the average farm yet we only know him for peanuts. The man was literally so good at what he did that he forced the country to notice him and bring him in for advice. Also if his advice would of been followed the dustbowl wouldn't of happened and he was sought out by Franklin to help repair the land.
 
He's well worth reading into, the man got the shaft by the P.C. crowd since a majority of his work is based on the ethos that the black man needed to make their own wealth and that if your work is good enough everyone regardless of race will come to you for advice. Hence why he got relegated to le peanut man, he was a freed slave that taught self reliance and any black historical figure that does that gets the axe.

Nigga didn't even invent peanut butter, but we remember him more for shit he didn't do than the many impressive feats that he actually accomplished. Fuckin' American school system.
 
The riots changed a lot of people, @The Last Stand moved more to the right after them.
The riots didn't really move anyone, politically. The Last Stand is still standing exactly where he was before. The difference is that as the party keeps pushing itself further and further left, it's alienating people who were already pretty fucking far to the Left to begin with. TDS and A&H in general catch a lot of flak for being "packed full of right-wingers" but a very significant majority of the people in this thread and in that forum weren't and aren't Conservative, they're people who used to consider themselves Left wing, but got left in the dust when the party went insane.

The number of disaffected liberals is only going to continue to increase the longer this goes on, because the Democratic party is caught in a purity spiral that's forcing itself to become more and more extreme. It's a textbook example of how once a political movement begins to lean into extremism, it will continually spin faster and faster, shedding off the people who aren't willing to go to those extremes until you're left with nothing but 3 Communists having a knife fight somewhere while everyone with any semblance of sanity has long since fucked off.
 
He's well worth reading into, the man got the shaft by the P.C. crowd since a majority of his work is based on the ethos that the black man needed to make their own wealth and that if your work is good enough everyone regardless of race will come to you for advice. Hence why he got relegated to le peanut man, he was a freed slave that taught self reliance and any black historical figure that does that gets the axe.


I don't want to bog down the thread too much but a short summary is , he was born a slave, freed, went to an agricultural college, pioneered a majority of the techniques used to keep lands usable, Pioneered irrigation systems that allowed farmers to grow more crops, spent his youth giving black people land and teaching them how to be wealthy with it, worked several times with Teddy to help the struggling farmers of the U.S., impressed Ford so much that the man bought Carvers home and paid him a great sum to work for him part time, helped repair the U.S. after the dustbowl. and spent most of his free time turning financially worthless crops into money makers.

The reason he is known as the peanut butter guy is partialy because peanuts restored vital nutrients to soil quicker and more effectivley than crops or even fertilizers and by only dedicating one season to growing peanuts farmers could re-use the land for cash cow crops, I.E. tabaco, that would often remove most vital nutrients from the soil. He spent quite a bit of his freetime trying to make Peanuts, a financialy worthless crop, into something that could be sold for high profits or atleast be usable by the farmers. One of his many inventions ended up being peanut butter, which did a great job of being a cheap and easy food item with a long shelf life. Another reason is because relegating him as peanut man means you get to ignore the decades he spent teaching black farmers how to farm better than their previous owners and how to keep the land from becoming worthless. His philosophy was that they were free now and they had to honor the men who died to free them to succeed. The final reason is because Ford treasured their friendship and thought the man was a genius, I kid you not he found and bought the house Carver was born in and brought it to his greenfield village and made sure it would be used as a way to teach the horrors of slavery. He put the man on the same level as Edison but you can't be humanizing ford though so a lot of his later work got memory holed.

It's just funny he was brought into the white house to discuss farming techniques with the president since the farms Carver taught did far better than the average farm yet we only know him for peanuts. The man was literally so good at what he did that he forced the country to notice him and bring him in for advice. Also if his advice would of been followed the dustbowl wouldn't of happened and he was sought out by Franklin to help repair the land.
Peanut butter was not one of Carver's inventions, having been invented multiple times over the centuries, with even the Aztec having their own variant of the stuff. The actual man who invented it was Marcellus Edson; it's a canuck invention.

Actually, a lot of the peanut inventions listed by him (including peanut and almond milk) were not invented by him but tacked on or invented at the same time. It was tacked on to Carver by dummies who refused to actually look up his work. Pretty much all of his inventions were either poor sellers, rendered obsolete, or did not work. These included a creosote-peanut paint, peanut oil to massage and revive muscles affected by polio, and a shitload of recipes for the nut. People also forget he also focused really hard on sweet potatoes too, inventing a variety of candies, flours, starches, and dyes.

And no, I'm not here to shit on Carver; the man's big accomplishment was reviving and fixing the agricultural sector of the south. He took a region rendered into poverty via the boll weevil destroying crops and failures caused by depletion and made it productive again. He discovered nitrogen fixing and perfected a crop rotation method that fixed the dying soils that Tennessee and several other bumper crop states faced. The man created dozens of ways and methods to squeeze out the uses of two simple and very cheap crops to provide for the farmers and gave them their land back. He fucking deserves to be remembered and does deserve to be on that monument.

He just deserves to be remembered for what he actually did, and not what some idiots keep saying he did.
tl;dr Carver's legacy is muddied due to people wanting to simplify what he did and a lot of his inventions becoming obsolete or forgotten. He still did amazing things and is a perfect display of both the American Dream and problem solving and would easily earn a spot on the monument for his works.
 
Look at those damn systemic racists in the TDS thread implying that blacks can be successful people without handouts and prop-ups from Whitey!

What's interesting is in this country, you're legally allowed to say what you want about it. First Amendment and whatnot.

Well, the government can't punish you for saying that.
Yes, and I am legally allowed to call them hypocritical faggots who want to shit all over America while calling me a traitor for not wanting WW3 with Russia over asinine shit.

How is everyone here celebrating the 4th of July?
I live in a free state where one can buy mortar-style fireworks at the grocery store and light them in your driveway.

Our neighborhood looks like the skies over Baghdad in January of '91.
 
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