Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Banditotron]

I want to elbow every fucking subhuman who says the preppers turned out right about COVID in the teeth. No they weren't fucking right, /pol/ WAS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THIS, THE GOVERNMENTS JUST JOINED IN ON THEIR SCREECHING. Rate me MATI all you want, I'm so done with reality. Fuck this bullshit. Everyone who's pro-lockdown is subhuman.

Lol calm down.

 

[najobo]

Yeah, "vaccine." There won't be any vaccine (corona type viruses are notoriously impossible to get a consistent vaccination against due to their propensity to mutate frequently into strains that ignore vaccinations, major reason why the common cold still exists despite all this time) just a placebo that everyone will be required by law to get if they want to do anything in society ever again, and there may or may not be a nice little Mark of the Beast chip involved.

Pretty much. They never came up with a half-decent vaccine for the OG SARS. Better get comfy, kids.

You know, after all those years we spent arguing about globalization and interconnectedness, and enrolling our kids in Mandarin-immersion preschool, because the future is ~multilingual, I find it this atomization so bitterly ironic. Maybe it's just my inner autist talking, but I see us becoming incredibly localized, with people all but locked in their information echo-chambers, going nowhere and doing nothing. Wherever you were pre-Wu Flu, that's where you'll be for the foreseeable future. Forget international travel; you brave the shops once a week, if that. There's no job to relocate for, no university to attend. Forget cultures and markets mingling; now, even citizens of the same nation are totally incomprehensible to each other.

The narrative's gone from one world, connected by TeChNoLoGy and DiVeRsItY to go the fuck home and stay there, I hear the people over in Shelbyville don't even wear masks. All of this in the space of just a few months.

 

[SBG]

They're really going to drag this farce out until a vaccine is produced, aren't they? All over what amounted to a bad flu.

More than anything, I fear the precedence this sends for future flu seasons and the "expert's" response to them.

It's been depressing seeing how many pseudo experts can't read or at least judge statistics.

Makes me feel safe guessing it'll even cause a fuck ton of bickering when the vaccines finally come out. Since any initial vaccine will probably be only moderately effective (you see some people talking of vaccines with 50% success rate at first), with fear mongers then wanting to demand everyone has to take it before society can move on.

But because they'll have gotten used to fear mongering they'll get to repeat the whole process with successive vaccines, with arguments about backers of competing vaccines are idiots trying to get everyone killed because it's not safe enough. Maybe we'll even get to see arguments we can't stop with the quarantines until we achieve the impossible of being 100% sure we have completely ended the existence of the virus through vaccinations.

 

[General Tug Boat]

Hello everybody, I have returned from my hiatus. I've fully recovered from that nasty infection I had a couple of weeks back. Still have some of the wheezing and sinus congestion, but outside of that I am seemingly out of the woods on this one. If that was indeed the fabled coof, Jesus fucking Christ that was one of the nastiest illnesses I've ever had. Anyways though, where I am at they have proceeded with second stage reopening. The agricultural industry is still getting really hard, we've had some of the highest peak infections to date, but the death rate remains miraculously low all things considered. Restaurants are beginning to do outdoor patio stuff, where they are beginning to block off some of the streets to allow people to go and dine outside. 10 people can now gather, along with the mask policy is everywhere now. I haven't seen too many of the lineups like I did the last grocery outing over a month ago, this time it was a relatively quick process to get in and out of the store. So I am assuming that they have generally increased the maximum capacity of how many people can enter the store at a time.

My program at the college has suspended intakes, I am not quite sure if that means if they have suspended the year or not, or they are going to allow those the people in the higher years to continue. Not quite sure, a bit of a cluster fuck in all reality, and I decided to temporarily transfer programs for the year, considering that I qualify to have my year covered by the government grants they are giving to students this year. Since if my current program is going to be in a hybrid fashion, I don't trust my boomer professors to not fuck it up some how. So I switched into software development for now, as well seems a lot easier to do online opposed to other programs being offered. I am a bit frustrated they have decided to take that course of action with my program, but I can always go back to it once things are more normal opposed to the exceptional normal we all have been suffering under.

Another death in the family as well, my Grandfather ended up passing away after a long and aggressive fight with cancer. I do not think it was the coof that took him, because his health was steadily declining since the beginning of the pandemic. I would of loved to go see him one last time and actually had plans to go before the pandemic, but all of that changed things. He isn't a big funeral type of guy, but I will go visit my family out there as soon as all of the current happenings taper downward. Apparently he wanted his ashes spread from one of the highest mountains out where he lives, so if they don't end up doing it before then, I would like to take that one last trip with him. Another person I didn't really get to say goodbye to during all of this, breaks my heart. Not being able to say goodbye to your loved ones is probably one of the saddest things about the pandemic, also being squirreled up in the house for months and months.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

Rate me MATI all you want, I'm so done with reality.

Make the best of it, dude. Outdoor dining with socially-distanced tables and masked servers is the shit. Amenities being limited to 50% or 25% capacity is fucking great. Get out and have some fun at the expense of re,tards who think that they're going to die instantly the moment they leave their house.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

have some fun at the expense of re,tards who think that they're going to die instantly the moment they leave their house.

He would have to start to be able to make fun of himself first to do that.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

I'm hearing people saying that Cuyahoga County Exec. Armand Budish is trying to get a measure passed that mandates masks in public at all times countywide. Including while driving, with or without passengers.

 

[FuckedUp]

There's literally no way there's not going to be a massive spike in mass shootings immediately after the last restrictions are eased and people are allowed to congregate in large groups again. Like holy fuck.

 

[mothmans]

I'm hearing people saying that Cuyahoga County Exec. Armand Budish is trying to get a measure passed that mandates masks in public at all times countywide. Including while driving, with or without passengers.

They seriously need to fuck off with that nonsense. Acting that idiotic is only guaranteed to make people dig their heels in even further against masks. Even people who are okay with wearing them in the stores are going to think it's fucking retarded to have to wear them in your own car, while you're by yourself, because it is.

 

[Turd Cow]

I swear to god, Slyvestor Turner really wants a fist in his ass this month.

A virus with a 99% survival and the school districts put up shitty restrictions during the graduations.

My sister is graduating this year and I heard they only are allowing three people to the graduation.

As if they already fucked it up for all the seniors in this country.




thanks politicians - sarcastic comment

 

[ADHD]

There's literally no way there's not going to be a massive spike in mass shootings immediately after the last restrictions are eased and people are allowed to congregate in large groups again. Like holy fuck.

If that were the case, why aren't those shooters going to where the BLM protests are taking place and opening fire there? Those are certainly what you would consider large groups.

 

[Bender]

If that were the case, why aren't those shooters going to where the BLM protests are taking place and opening fire there? Those are certainly what you would consider large groups.

Because the restrictions aren't eased yet?

 

[feral cat #6385]

Video of 2 new Corona deaths in Seattle over the weekend. It wiped out 2 young women.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Video of 2 new Corona deaths in Seattle over the weekend. It wiped out 2 young women.
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Wow! I didn't know we were capable of such short-term flight.

These protestor spergs are built differently.

 

[feral cat #6385]

Wow! I didn't know we were capable of such short-term flight.

These protestor spergs are built differently.

#FlyForFloydChallenge

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Because the restrictions aren't eased yet?

Why would someone who wants to go on a MASS KILLING SPREE care about restrictions in place?

 

[teriyakiburns]

I want to elbow every fucking subhuman who says the preppers turned out right about COVID in the teeth. No they weren't fucking right, /pol/ WAS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THIS, THE GOVERNMENTS JUST JOINED IN ON THEIR SCREECHING. Rate me MATI all you want, I'm so done with reality. Fuck this bullshit. Everyone who's pro-lockdown is subhuman.

Except that's not what preppers were doing (well I say that; there's always going to be that one tard). They weren't advocating for the forced incarceration of a significant proportion of the population, but for the wisdom of being prepared for the abrupt cessation of normal social functions in an unspecified emergency. Most proper preppers would be ideologically opposed to the idea of government overreach (or even the idea of government in general), so they're the last people you should expect to demand everyone be forcibly locked in their homes over a disease.

 

[FuckedUp]

Except that's not what preppers were doing (well I say that; there's always going to be that one tard). They weren't advocating for the forced incarceration of a significant proportion of the population, but for the wisdom of being prepared for the abrupt cessation of normal social functions in an unspecified emergency. Most proper preppers would be ideologically opposed to the idea of government overreach (or even the idea of government in general), so they're the last people you should expect to demand everyone be forcibly locked in their homes over a disease.

Fucking exactly, but now I hear people saying the preppers were right all along. It pisses me the fuck off.

 

[It's HK-47]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/Epidemiologists-coronavirus-protests-quarantine.html

http://archive.is/im5ts

Public health experts decried the anti-lockdown protests last spring as dangerous gatherings in a pandemic. Health experts seem less comfortable doing so now that the marches are against racism.

As the pandemic took hold, most epidemiologists have had clear proscriptions in fighting it: No students in classrooms, no in-person religious services, no visits to sick relatives in hospitals, no large public gatherings.

So when conservative anti-lockdown protesters gathered on state capitol steps in places like Columbus, Ohio and Lansing, Mich., in April and May, epidemiologists scolded them and forecast surging infections. When Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia relaxed restrictions on businesses in late April as testing lagged and infections rose, the talk in public health circles was of that state’s embrace of human sacrifice.

And then the brutal killing of George Floyd by police in Minneapolis on May 25 changed everything.

Soon the streets nationwide were full of tens of thousands of people in a mass protest movement that continues to this day, with demonstrations and the toppling of statues. And rather than decrying mass gatherings, more than 1,300 public health officials signed a May 30 letter of support, and many joined the protests.

That reaction, and the contrast with the epidemiologists’ earlier fervent support for the lockdown, gave rise to an uncomfortable question: Was public health advice in a pandemic dependent on whether people approved of the mass gathering in question? To many, the answer seemed to be “yes.”

“The way the public health narrative around coronavirus has reversed itself overnight seems an awful lot like … politicizing science,” the essayist and journalist Thomas Chatterton Williams wrote in The Guardian last month. “What are we to make of such whiplash-inducing messaging?”

Of course, there are differences: A distinct majority of George Floyd protesters wore masks in many cities, even if they often crowded too close together. By contrast, many anti-lockdown protesters refused to wear masks — and their rallying cry ran directly contrary to public health officials’ instructions.

And in practical terms, no team of epidemiologists could have stopped the waves of impassioned protesters, any more than they could have blocked the anti-lockdown protests.

Still, the divergence in their own reactions left some of the country’s prominent epidemiologists wrestling with deeper questions of morality, responsibility and risk.

Catherine Troisi, an infectious disease epidemiologist at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, studies Covid-19. When, wearing a mask and standing at the edge of a great swell of people, she attended a recent protest in Houston supporting Mr. Floyd, a sense of contradiction tugged at her.

“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” she said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”

Mark Lurie, a professor of epidemiology at Brown University, described a similar struggle.

“Instinctively, many of us in public health feel a strong desire to act against accumulated generations of racial injustice,” Professor Lurie said. “But we have to be honest: A few weeks before, we were criticizing protesters for arguing to open up the economy and saying that was dangerous behavior.

“I am still grappling with that.”

To which Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University’s School of Public Health, added: “Do I worry that mass protests will fuel more cases? Yes, I do. But a dam broke, and there’s no stopping that.”

Some public health scientists publicly waved off the conflicted feelings of their colleagues, saying the country now confronts a stark moral choice. The letter signed by more than 1,300 epidemiologists and health workers urged Americans to adopt a “consciously anti-racist” stance and framed the difference between the anti-lockdown demonstrators and the protesters in moral, ideological and racial terms.

Those who protested stay-at-home orders were “rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives” the letter stated.

By contrast, it said, those protesting systemic racism “must be supported.”

“As public health advocates,” they stated, “we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for Covid-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national public health.”

[Continued at source because it's a fucking essay]​

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This is unmitigated insanity. Science has been thoroughly politicized and this is exactly why epidemiologists can no longer be trusted, and precisely why I no longer give the smallest amount of a shit about these lockdowns. If they make even the smallest effort to lock things down and tell me to stay inside after this, I'm not listening, I'm not doing it, they can suck my entire ass.

 

[Xerxes IX]

They can't explain why they think these protests are okay?

Fear. It's fear of the consequences they'd face for not being on the right side of history. Fear that even a limp dick statement like "m-maybe going out and protesting will spread the coof guys" will LITERALLY be the same as saying you want black people to be murdered. Fear of the angry mob in general. All of these institutions aiding and abetting this are afraid of what'll happen if they don't give concessions to the protestors. They can't make this go away like they can with angry right wingers because they've thrown their lot in with people like this.

And why would they care? Lockdowns were winding down when George Floyd died. Now they can point at increasing case numbers and go TOLD YOU SO, REOPENINGS BAD. They want to have their cake and eat it too. But instead, now every political side has a reason to be angry at the government and law enforcement and think they're full of shit (at least in theory, since the defund the police groups want the police the second something goes bad for them). So maybe playing politics with everything going on in the hopes it'll social engineer our way to President Biden was a god damn retarded idea.