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🦊 Furry Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan
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Ok I didn't see anyone point this out but, isn't camping and nature itself a white thing?
Why are they making a poc safe space in what is essentially white peoples favorite past time....sitting in nature?
here is just one example
Let's culturally appriate white space and exclude them hahaha!
Also I like how they say all races welcomed. I feel like they might be aware they cant ban people of different races from the event. But nothing will stop the harassment
This is going to be good. 2022 can't come fast enough.
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The United States Military (which has a large POC population) would like to speak with you
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I was trying to poke fun that alot on the internet seem to see it as a white thing to do. I'm not saying that it fully is.
That why I referenced the link.
I mean come on, drinking milk was seen as a white thing to do back in 2016 and everyone drinks that.
Breathing air is white. Golfing, buying stocks.
Shit. Calm down guys
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What I find really funny is that article you linked eventually reports that people pointed out that the demographics of national parks are... pretty much the same as the wider population. There are more white people enjoying these parts because they're the majority of the population. Minorities are the minority in the parks because... guess what, they're the minority. The article then tries to double down and skirt around the issue that poor people don't have the money to go to these parks, black, while, brown or purple. But it can't be an economic issue, of course. It must be some sort of racism.
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so it looks like there’s already some issues with the BIPOC furcon runners.
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...that's the cancellation? He didn't want to use condoms during sex and they agreed? Unless you're going to denounce it as rape then you were also fully responsible for continuing without condoms. I can smell the bullshit.
How horrible ;___; cancel him immediately. The doc is full of crap like this. The dude sounds like a typical chaser who goes to cons to fuck, but that's an overwhelming majority of attendees to American cons, so.
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It's been, what? 2? 3 days? And Board Members are already being cancelled? That's a good sign.
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Looks like we called it. Man, this is rolling so quickly I haven't even had the time to get the popcorn machine going.
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Don't worry, I have some kettle corn in the pantry. Two and a half minutes and we'll be golden.
Though I'm honestly not sure if the drama will even last THAT long.
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So the BIPOC convention starts going down in flames in less than 4 days of the first announcement. Absolutely saw that one coming.
I think what a lot of furries fail to grasp is how much work it takes to put on an actual event, it's nowhere near on the same level as say, A furry meetup, where you usually just have to call the place ahead of time to arrange a timeslot and do some advertising.
Honestly, I hope one of this people running this BIPOC con puts out a donation drive before it all goes up completely in flames, because as long as they don't claim it's for charity like CCFC did, nobody can really hold them accountable for that money.
I think what a lot of furries fail to grasp is how much work it takes to put on an actual event, it's nowhere near on the same level as say, A furry meetup, where you usually just have to call the place ahead of time to arrange a timeslot and do some advertising.
Honestly, I hope one of this people running this BIPOC con puts out a donation drive before it all goes up completely in flames, because as long as they don't claim it's for charity like CCFC did, nobody can really hold them accountable for that money.
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If this drives that kid away from being a Furry it's for their own good that it went down that way.
Sucks in the near term but one day they may look back and be thankful for this happening and getting out early.
Or not. Who knows, might commit suicide, kids are unpredictable. Especially about social stuff.
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She looks more hispanic to me.
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So... Who's ready for some more research/concentrated autism on CCFC? I've been doing some more digging, so I guess I might as well do another dump on information since people have been reacting positively to these posts. In today's episode, I'm going to focus on two things. First, I discovered that while CCFC wiped most of their social media, the official CCFC Facebook page is still up (archive), although it appears to have been untouched since April. The second is the CCFC charity fundraiser that was done in July 2019, which we'll touch on as we work our way through the FB posts.
The first major post on the page is dated May 14th, announcing that they finally have a contract with the hotel. This is a little under 9 months before the event was scheduled to happen, so some people were rightfully concerned about the event's rushed planning.
The next notable post was on July 16th, talking about how they just received artwork that was going to be displayed at a charity picnic event planned for the 20th.
There are two things to note in this post. First, note how the total amount of money raised for ALS is $0. None of the money raised at this event went to the charity. Second, this is the same artwork that Faulty claims CCFC basically stole. I mentioned this in an earlier post:
So did Nitro's gamble of mooching off another event's popularity work out for him? I want to let this video Nitro made speak for itself because it's hilarious:
If you're too lazy to watch the 27-second video, here are the summary/stats from Nitro's "charity" fundraiser:
-50 attendees
-21 of the 50 attendees were wearing a fursuit of some kind
-$666 raised
-a poorly compressed reaction gif of someone falling over
-video clip of some attendees pouring a kiddy pool full of water on Nitro and his boyfriend
Now ignoring the lack of any charity donation, you might be thinking, "that's not too terrible attendance-wise, it's a decent number for a small event". So how did the York Furbowl do in comparison? (archive)
Yeah, almost double the number of people showed up. From what I've heard secondhand from some furries who attended the Furbowl, a lot of them didn't even know that the CCFC fundraising picnic was running until a day or two before it happened, and I believe the only reason that the people running the York bowl weren't upset with the picnic's timing was that Nitro was friends with a few of the furbowl's staff. I do know that Nitro also attended most of the other York furbowls after this (of which there is plenty of photographic and video proof he was there).
Unrelated furmeet drama, but when all the CCFC shutdown drama started and Nitro went radio silent, several of the local furmeets immediately banned him, since he allegedly recruited some of his CCFC staff and volunteers at the meets. I'm aware of 3 other furbowls that run in Pennsylvania, all of which banned Nitro almost immediately. I know the York bowl originally hesitated due to some of the staff being friends with him, but they eventually banned him as well after most of the other furries said they would refuse to come back if Nitro was still allowed to attend.
Anyways, moving on. According to the Facebook page, there was a second fundraiser event planned for October, this time held at Knoebels (which is an amusement park in PA with a large campground). I have no idea if this event ever happened or not, I can't find any photos or stories from the event, and there were no follow-up posts about it:
The next major post was on some on their other social media as well and I think was mentioned earlier in the thread, but now we have some more context about it. The tldr is that in early October, Saphy (who's worked at staff at other furry events) started talking a bunch of shit about CCFC's lack of professionalism and accusing random staff of being alt-right. While Saphy is indeed an equally shitty person, Nitro showed his lack professionalism by using the CCFC social media to put out a big "fuck you" statement talking shit about Saphy while simultaneously doxing himself in the process:
In December, there was a post announcing that Tripp and Loveless were new staff for the event. What makes the timing of this announcement notable is that it lines up with Tripp and Lifty's testimony from when I got in contact with them in mid-May; Lifty mentioned quitting while MFF while happening and the breaking point was some poorly handled advertising that happened during that event (supposedly a guy representing CCFC was handing out guest of honor applications at multiple conventions, quoted below) This staff announcement is dated December 9th, literally the day after MFF ended:
The next few posts were made during CCFC. A lot of these were cross-posted from Twitter so I don't see any point in re-treading them from earlier KF posts, however, I think this one is worth bringing up again; this $217 donation was the one made by someone representing Made Fur You, which is the only donation the ALS charity received and is the donation Nitro originally tried to take credit for when first questioned about where the charity money went.
Also worth noting is this post that was made about a week after the con announcing they had banned Sharky and Anti, the security staff who were banned for being incredibly unprofessional and getting drunk as shit while on the job. I previously reached out to Tripp to explain what happened, he said these bans were justified, but he told Nitro to not publicly post about them because it seemed really unprofessional to draw more attention to the problem after it was already resolved. This was apparently also cross-posted to Twitter but deleted about 15 minutes later. I guess they forgot to remove it from Facebook too.
The final posts on the Facebook page were shilling for the merch store, which was reposted a couple of times to remind people everything was half-off. That being said, there's one more interesting set of posts worth mentioning; while most of the community posts are now full of a bunch of unfunny troll posts, there are some really interesting posts made by a Zeska Roo. Why are Zeska's posts so important here? Because the first image confirms that he was a DJ at one of the CCFC dances, so he's definitely somewhat familiar with Nitro. And more importantly, the second image mentions a very specific donation amount raised for the charity, $4,600. This is the only definitive count that anyone familiar with the event posted online in any capacity, so I'm inclined to believe Zeska heard that number directly from Nitro or another staff.
Zeska at the bare minimum has some passing familiarity with Nitro, because during November 2019's York Furbowl, a furry with a 360 camera was walking around and got some video of the attendees. Right at the 5-6 second mark, Nitro can be seen chatting with Zeska (in the blue fursuit on the right). So because he has at least some knowledge of the event, I'm inclined to believe Zeska's account that the final charity amount was in the ballpark of $4,600.
(source video)
The first major post on the page is dated May 14th, announcing that they finally have a contract with the hotel. This is a little under 9 months before the event was scheduled to happen, so some people were rightfully concerned about the event's rushed planning.
The next notable post was on July 16th, talking about how they just received artwork that was going to be displayed at a charity picnic event planned for the 20th.
There are two things to note in this post. First, note how the total amount of money raised for ALS is $0. None of the money raised at this event went to the charity. Second, this is the same artwork that Faulty claims CCFC basically stole. I mentioned this in an earlier post:
So, what happened at the actual fundraising event? We do know it actually happened because some photos of the artwork being hung up outside exist, but not a lot of people showed up to it. What is known is that Nitro picked the 20th for a very specific reason; There was another furry event happening later that same day not too far from his, the York Furbowl, a reasonably popular bi-monthly event in the York, PA area. Presumably, he thought that if he planned it earlier on the same day, furries who were going to the bowl would come to his event too. Hell, the park Nitro was holding this event at was only 11 minutes from the bowling alley:Faulty confirms they helped design the mascot, weren't paid, and their art was heavily referenced by another artist (who presumably weren't paid either:
So did Nitro's gamble of mooching off another event's popularity work out for him? I want to let this video Nitro made speak for itself because it's hilarious:
-50 attendees
-21 of the 50 attendees were wearing a fursuit of some kind
-$666 raised
-a poorly compressed reaction gif of someone falling over
-video clip of some attendees pouring a kiddy pool full of water on Nitro and his boyfriend
Now ignoring the lack of any charity donation, you might be thinking, "that's not too terrible attendance-wise, it's a decent number for a small event". So how did the York Furbowl do in comparison? (archive)
Yeah, almost double the number of people showed up. From what I've heard secondhand from some furries who attended the Furbowl, a lot of them didn't even know that the CCFC fundraising picnic was running until a day or two before it happened, and I believe the only reason that the people running the York bowl weren't upset with the picnic's timing was that Nitro was friends with a few of the furbowl's staff. I do know that Nitro also attended most of the other York furbowls after this (of which there is plenty of photographic and video proof he was there).
Unrelated furmeet drama, but when all the CCFC shutdown drama started and Nitro went radio silent, several of the local furmeets immediately banned him, since he allegedly recruited some of his CCFC staff and volunteers at the meets. I'm aware of 3 other furbowls that run in Pennsylvania, all of which banned Nitro almost immediately. I know the York bowl originally hesitated due to some of the staff being friends with him, but they eventually banned him as well after most of the other furries said they would refuse to come back if Nitro was still allowed to attend.
Anyways, moving on. According to the Facebook page, there was a second fundraiser event planned for October, this time held at Knoebels (which is an amusement park in PA with a large campground). I have no idea if this event ever happened or not, I can't find any photos or stories from the event, and there were no follow-up posts about it:
The next major post was on some on their other social media as well and I think was mentioned earlier in the thread, but now we have some more context about it. The tldr is that in early October, Saphy (who's worked at staff at other furry events) started talking a bunch of shit about CCFC's lack of professionalism and accusing random staff of being alt-right. While Saphy is indeed an equally shitty person, Nitro showed his lack professionalism by using the CCFC social media to put out a big "fuck you" statement talking shit about Saphy while simultaneously doxing himself in the process:
In December, there was a post announcing that Tripp and Loveless were new staff for the event. What makes the timing of this announcement notable is that it lines up with Tripp and Lifty's testimony from when I got in contact with them in mid-May; Lifty mentioned quitting while MFF while happening and the breaking point was some poorly handled advertising that happened during that event (supposedly a guy representing CCFC was handing out guest of honor applications at multiple conventions, quoted below) This staff announcement is dated December 9th, literally the day after MFF ended:
The same furry also claims that while at BLFC 2019 (about 7 months before CCFC), there was someone representing CCFC literally handing out guest of honor applications to random furries. Nitro supposedly told the CCFC rep to only give forms to fursuiters, because apparently only fursuiters were good enough to be guests. While there's no definitive proof of that, this does corroborate with a youtube video I found of the opening ceremonies that clearly shows all the people sitting at the "guest of honor table" were fursuiters. The only non-suiter at the table was Nitro, seen on the left in the second pic.
(source video)
When the furry confronted Nitro about this, he denied he had anything to do with it. Also worth noting that he supposedly had representatives handing these applications at Furpocalypse 2019 (aka the gross hotel one) and MFF as well, but I haven't found any definitive evidence of this.
The next few posts were made during CCFC. A lot of these were cross-posted from Twitter so I don't see any point in re-treading them from earlier KF posts, however, I think this one is worth bringing up again; this $217 donation was the one made by someone representing Made Fur You, which is the only donation the ALS charity received and is the donation Nitro originally tried to take credit for when first questioned about where the charity money went.
Also worth noting is this post that was made about a week after the con announcing they had banned Sharky and Anti, the security staff who were banned for being incredibly unprofessional and getting drunk as shit while on the job. I previously reached out to Tripp to explain what happened, he said these bans were justified, but he told Nitro to not publicly post about them because it seemed really unprofessional to draw more attention to the problem after it was already resolved. This was apparently also cross-posted to Twitter but deleted about 15 minutes later. I guess they forgot to remove it from Facebook too.
The final posts on the Facebook page were shilling for the merch store, which was reposted a couple of times to remind people everything was half-off. That being said, there's one more interesting set of posts worth mentioning; while most of the community posts are now full of a bunch of unfunny troll posts, there are some really interesting posts made by a Zeska Roo. Why are Zeska's posts so important here? Because the first image confirms that he was a DJ at one of the CCFC dances, so he's definitely somewhat familiar with Nitro. And more importantly, the second image mentions a very specific donation amount raised for the charity, $4,600. This is the only definitive count that anyone familiar with the event posted online in any capacity, so I'm inclined to believe Zeska heard that number directly from Nitro or another staff.
Zeska at the bare minimum has some passing familiarity with Nitro, because during November 2019's York Furbowl, a furry with a 360 camera was walking around and got some video of the attendees. Right at the 5-6 second mark, Nitro can be seen chatting with Zeska (in the blue fursuit on the right). So because he has at least some knowledge of the event, I'm inclined to believe Zeska's account that the final charity amount was in the ballpark of $4,600.
(source video)
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I'll suggest Venus. Cleanse them with acid and fire. Maybe then their fursuits will stop reeking.
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I think this probably has been said before but the anthrocon on VRC is shit. Least from what I hear about the world and how fucked it is.
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I'm going to follow Harvest Moon closely because the current plan is apparently thousands of attendees sharing a 200-acre field which can only go well lol
Nobody involved, even the detractors, know how trademark law works. Here's a bunch of furries whooping and hollering over two letters on a logo:
Personally I would have not put the TM letters on the left-hand side, because that looks stupid. But oh well. This could have been done at basically any time without repercussions because the name is original and a dead video game franchise has never ran a convention.
Context: Natsume are the developers of Harvest Moon, the video game. This is all because some retard reached out to them asking if it was okay to use "their name":
http://archive.is/PVeZK
MrAntiBunny locked his account because he got fed up of getting clowned for playing internet lawyer.
It's also accountability tracking time, as HMFurfest is now accepting donations and is getting a load of them. Where all this money goes, nobody knows, because I imagine the overhead of renting a literal campsite isn't going to be much more than an actual hotel. It is important to note that these are just donations and not a seat at the con in any way. One of the con chairs is offering some PSD template for every $10 donation:
http://archive.is/wip/RNJyk
If you're wondering what the "socialist teeth" thing is, it started from some theory that a certain clique of twitter users all have the same kind of avatar. They have ran with it and it has been all over twitter today.
Nobody involved, even the detractors, know how trademark law works. Here's a bunch of furries whooping and hollering over two letters on a logo:
Personally I would have not put the TM letters on the left-hand side, because that looks stupid. But oh well. This could have been done at basically any time without repercussions because the name is original and a dead video game franchise has never ran a convention.
Context: Natsume are the developers of Harvest Moon, the video game. This is all because some retard reached out to them asking if it was okay to use "their name":
http://archive.is/PVeZK
MrAntiBunny locked his account because he got fed up of getting clowned for playing internet lawyer.
It's also accountability tracking time, as HMFurfest is now accepting donations and is getting a load of them. Where all this money goes, nobody knows, because I imagine the overhead of renting a literal campsite isn't going to be much more than an actual hotel. It is important to note that these are just donations and not a seat at the con in any way. One of the con chairs is offering some PSD template for every $10 donation:
http://archive.is/wip/RNJyk
If you're wondering what the "socialist teeth" thing is, it started from some theory that a certain clique of twitter users all have the same kind of avatar. They have ran with it and it has been all over twitter today.
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At this point I'm convinced that this con is actually just them scamming money from the furry fandom. The chair doesn't even need it she brags about her job all the damn time.
Though Natsume willing to share Harvest Moon with a furry con calling it a natural occurance but not happy to give it back to the original games lmao.