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Iirc there's an episode of botched where it talks about why this happens. Apparently it's super-common.
Inactive Naomi Wu / SexyCyborg / RealSexyCyborg / Timaz - Chinese Bulimic in Tech and the manlet American husband who runs her social media
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Naomi wants people to know how hard she works to support and answer her fans and says haters get out!
She supposedly got ran over by a truck as a kid or something?
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She supposedly got ran over by a truck as a kid or something?
Naomi Wu 机械妖姬 on Twitter: "@budgetplayer It's probably a Traumatic Br…
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Is that what flattened her ass with prejudice?
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Howdy folk, some citations. I'm sure you'll update your conspiracy theory to account for this but I thought I'd keep things exciting for you
I'm almost 27, I'd just not updated an old Pastebin for two years a while back, there was no deception intended. I don't really care if people question my age- I get touchy when people question my work because it's not easy for me.
I've always been honest that I get help with my English as needed. I have a small Wechat group with overseas educated speakers, tone can be all over the place depending who's around to help with a difficult turn of phrase.
People who have vetted me in real life, seen me work and would have to be in on the vast conspiracy to pretend I am technically competent when I am really a clueless puppet as suggested here:
Bunnie Huang
Winston Sterzel (SerpentZA)
China-Gadgets.de
Becky Stern and Estefannie
Limor Fried and Phillip Torrone
Maker Faire NYC attendees
Hundreds of people who have tried to quiz me and trip me up. Countless other hardware engineers and reporters who have come through Shenzhen and met me. Including Vice who shot photos and video while I built my BarBot in front of them in my living room for a few hours- they would have loved if I'd fumbled, I don't, so they needed to find another hook.
When the editor of Make Magazine reposted the smear campaign that originally started on Reddit, and got pushback from the Maker community over it, he did everything in his power to not back down. Maker Media staff spent two weeks asking everyone who met me, and went through my videos frame by frame for *anything* they could use to cast doubt on my legitimacy- everyone said the same thing, I was the real deal. Make was truly desperate if there was a shred of evidence they would have found it:
www.standard.co.uk
makezine.com
I have the largest implants in China, I could make far more money off my appearance doing literally anything else, why the hell would I spend my day for the last four years hunched over a workbench getting cut, burned, pulling metal splinters out of my hand, for what? My friends who live-stream for the Chinese market make 10x what I do just for singing songs and looking cute. I would not even have to have sex, professional arm-candy gigs with polite, professional Chinese CEOs to give them face at events pay far more than what I make now.
Why would I fight for Open Source compliance and respect for IP compliance where this is VERY unpopular and closes a lot of doors? Foreigners call me a thieving Chinese and a fake, Chinese call me a foreigners puppet for calling them out on GPL compliance and fighting on IP issues (which NO ONE else is doing here).
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I shoot long, detailed build videos meticulously showing each step- more detailed than nearly any other female maker, and most men:
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CAD tutorials (and I have to show me and the screen in the same shot, which is some bullshit but fine):
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...and I am absolutely candid about my augmentation:
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True, I have no ass, I'm ok with that- as are the kind of people I'm interested in.
The "I'm not really lesbian" angle is new, but not really offensive or anything. Yes, I have had a Beard for many years- married in fact, this is normal for Chinese in my position. Solves problems with parents and business. No, he's not an engineer or involved in my business- I get help mostly from local Chinese engineers. There's a few pictures of hench-husband and I floating around, it's not like anyone has ever seen me kiss or even hold hands with a guy? If I'd ever dated a man you'd think they would have popped out of the woodwork by now to say so. There are far, far more intimate pictures of me out there with girls I have dated. Guess you'll just have to remain skeptical?
Most of this skepticism is usually based on my appearance, many of you find my competence unlikely- yet there are literally thousands of women as or more technically competent than I am within a few kilometers of me. That's what we do in Shenzhen. I just slapped a pair of tits on and have better English than most. But the cognitive dissonance is to be expected if you aren't from someplace where technically competent young women are a dime a dozen.
Anyway, try to work that into some sort of larger unified conspiracy theory. Maybe one that explains why the fuck I'm doing this if I'm not really passionate about tech rather than any one of a hundred other ways I could sit around on my ass doing less and making 10x as much?
I'm almost 27, I'd just not updated an old Pastebin for two years a while back, there was no deception intended. I don't really care if people question my age- I get touchy when people question my work because it's not easy for me.
I've always been honest that I get help with my English as needed. I have a small Wechat group with overseas educated speakers, tone can be all over the place depending who's around to help with a difficult turn of phrase.
People who have vetted me in real life, seen me work and would have to be in on the vast conspiracy to pretend I am technically competent when I am really a clueless puppet as suggested here:
Bunnie Huang
Winston Sterzel (SerpentZA)
China-Gadgets.de
Becky Stern and Estefannie
Limor Fried and Phillip Torrone
Maker Faire NYC attendees
Hundreds of people who have tried to quiz me and trip me up. Countless other hardware engineers and reporters who have come through Shenzhen and met me. Including Vice who shot photos and video while I built my BarBot in front of them in my living room for a few hours- they would have loved if I'd fumbled, I don't, so they needed to find another hook.
When the editor of Make Magazine reposted the smear campaign that originally started on Reddit, and got pushback from the Maker community over it, he did everything in his power to not back down. Maker Media staff spent two weeks asking everyone who met me, and went through my videos frame by frame for *anything* they could use to cast doubt on my legitimacy- everyone said the same thing, I was the real deal. Make was truly desperate if there was a shred of evidence they would have found it:
CEO apologises for saying ‘sexy cyborg’ female tech developer is fraud and front for male developer boyfriend
A tech CEO has been forced to apologise to a Youtuber known as SexyCyborg after claiming she was faking her work as a developer to promote her boyfriend's business. Dale Dougherty, publisher of tech online magazine Make and CEO of Maker Media, accused Naomi Wu of not creating a string of quirky...
My Apology to Naomi Wu and the Make Community | Make:
We've heard from the community, and we're moving forward with an action plan.
makezine.com
I have the largest implants in China, I could make far more money off my appearance doing literally anything else, why the hell would I spend my day for the last four years hunched over a workbench getting cut, burned, pulling metal splinters out of my hand, for what? My friends who live-stream for the Chinese market make 10x what I do just for singing songs and looking cute. I would not even have to have sex, professional arm-candy gigs with polite, professional Chinese CEOs to give them face at events pay far more than what I make now.
Why would I fight for Open Source compliance and respect for IP compliance where this is VERY unpopular and closes a lot of doors? Foreigners call me a thieving Chinese and a fake, Chinese call me a foreigners puppet for calling them out on GPL compliance and fighting on IP issues (which NO ONE else is doing here).
Creality GPL Update - Naomi Wu Released CR-10S Marlin Source Code
Here is a quick update to the Creality3D / GPL issue that gained massive attention a few days ago. Thanks to community pressure, and thanks to Naomi Wu, Crea...
youtu.be
Naomi Wu speaking at COSCon'18 (China Open-Source Conference)
**THIS IS VERY BORING UNLESS YOU ARE INTO OPEN SOURCE** Sino:bit: https://youtu.be/mt1OLgGIqhc?t=230 Ender-3: https://youtu.be/mt1OLgGIqhc?t=879 http://cosco...
youtu.be
CR-10 3D Printer- Now Open Source Hardware Association Certified!
Buy a CR10 here: http://bit.ly/2Tsp172 Download the CR-10 3D Printer Source: https://github.com/Creality3DPrinting/CR-10 Download the CR-10 Motherboard Sourc...
youtu.be
I shoot long, detailed build videos meticulously showing each step- more detailed than nearly any other female maker, and most men:
HeartBreaker💔 Chest Exploding Tool of Assassination!
Give us a hug! I tackle a classic build theme- with a wearable twist! Drilling, filing, brazing and more! Thanks to: the Hacksmith https://www.youtube.com/us...
youtu.be
🔥Lasercutter Fire!🔥- and CNC Enclosure Build
I build a noise and dust enclosure for my little CNC router- and have some adventures with workshop safety along the way😳 Lydia Streccius: http://bit.ly/2TL2...
youtu.be
LEBs- Cyberpunk Wearable Fiber Optic Implant Transillumination
I engineer and build a device that takes advantage of some of the unique light diffraction properties of my implants. Thanks to Creality3D for sponsoring me,...
youtu.be
CNC Engraver Unboxing and Assembly- the SainSmart Genmitsu
Buy the Genmitsu here: http://bit.ly/2rSqeZu Use the code NAOMI to get $20 off. Buy the Ender-3 here: http://bit.ly/2rQsY9R Good videos: myfordboy: https://y...
youtu.be
CAD tutorials (and I have to show me and the screen in the same shot, which is some bullshit but fine):
MOI3D CAD- Best Offline Fusion 360 Alternative?
If you're like me you don't want your tools in the Cloud. In this video I look at a 100% offline, easy to learn CAD program for Windows/Mac- MOI. http://MOI3...
youtu.be
Naomi Wu's DIY, 3D Printed Choker for Teens
This is my first Maker Educational tutorial- and yes there are a lot of problems with it The thing is lots of young adults are interested in me and my builds...
youtu.be
...and I am absolutely candid about my augmentation:
See My Boob😜
This week we look at something new! Sponsor me, get early access and support my work (but only if you can without hardship)😘: ►SubscribeStar: https://www.sub...
True, I have no ass, I'm ok with that- as are the kind of people I'm interested in.
The "I'm not really lesbian" angle is new, but not really offensive or anything. Yes, I have had a Beard for many years- married in fact, this is normal for Chinese in my position. Solves problems with parents and business. No, he's not an engineer or involved in my business- I get help mostly from local Chinese engineers. There's a few pictures of hench-husband and I floating around, it's not like anyone has ever seen me kiss or even hold hands with a guy? If I'd ever dated a man you'd think they would have popped out of the woodwork by now to say so. There are far, far more intimate pictures of me out there with girls I have dated. Guess you'll just have to remain skeptical?
Most of this skepticism is usually based on my appearance, many of you find my competence unlikely- yet there are literally thousands of women as or more technically competent than I am within a few kilometers of me. That's what we do in Shenzhen. I just slapped a pair of tits on and have better English than most. But the cognitive dissonance is to be expected if you aren't from someplace where technically competent young women are a dime a dozen.
Anyway, try to work that into some sort of larger unified conspiracy theory. Maybe one that explains why the fuck I'm doing this if I'm not really passionate about tech rather than any one of a hundred other ways I could sit around on my ass doing less and making 10x as much?
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Please verify your account by @RideHowdy folk, some citations. I'm sure you'll update your conspiracy theory to account for this but I thought I'd keep things exciting for you
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If legit, how did you even end up here? Do you just Google your own name?Howdy folk, some citations. I'm sure you'll update your conspiracy theory to account for this but I thought I'd keep things exciting for you
I'm almost 27, I'd just not updated an old Pastebin for two years a while back, there was no deception intended. I don't really care if people question my age- I get touchy when people question my work because it's not easy for me.
I've always been honest that I get help with my English as needed. I have a small Wechat group with overseas educated speakers, tone can be all over the place depending who's around to help with a difficult turn of phrase.
People who have vetted me in real life, seen me work and would have to be in on the vast conspiracy to pretend I am technically competent when I am really a clueless puppet as suggested here:
Bunnie Huang
Winston Sterzel (SerpentZA)
China-Gadgets.de
Becky Stern and Estefannie
Limor Fried and Phillip Torrone
Maker Faire NYC attendees
Hundreds of people who have tried to quiz me and trip me up. Countless other hardware engineers and reporters who have come through Shenzhen and met me. Including Vice who shot photos and video while I built my BarBot in front of them in my living room for a few hours- they would have loved if I'd fumbled, I don't, so they needed to find another hook.
When the editor of Make Magazine reposted the smear campaign that originally started on Reddit, and got pushback from the Maker community over it, he did everything in his power to not back down. Maker Media staff spent two weeks asking everyone who met me, and went through my videos frame by frame for *anything* they could use to cast doubt on my legitimacy- everyone said the same thing, I was the real deal. Make was truly desperate if there was a shred of evidence they would have found it:
CEO apologises for saying ‘sexy cyborg’ female tech developer is fraud and front for male developer boyfriend
A tech CEO has been forced to apologise to a Youtuber known as SexyCyborg after claiming she was faking her work as a developer to promote her boyfriend's business. Dale Dougherty, publisher of tech online magazine Make and CEO of Maker Media, accused Naomi Wu of not creating a string of quirky...
My Apology to Naomi Wu and the Make Community | Make:
We've heard from the community, and we're moving forward with an action plan.
I have the largest implants in China, I could make far more money off my appearance doing literally anything else, why the hell would I spend my day for the last four years hunched over a workbench getting cut, burned, pulling metal splinters out of my hand, for what? My friends who live-stream for the Chinese market make 10x what I do just for singing songs and looking cute. I would not even have to have sex, professional arm-candy gigs with polite, professional Chinese CEOs to give them face at events pay far more than what I make now.
Why would I fight for Open Source compliance and respect for IP compliance where this is VERY unpopular and closes a lot of doors? Foreigners call me a thieving Chinese and a fake, Chinese call me a foreigners puppet for calling them out on GPL compliance and fighting on IP issues (which NO ONE else is doing here).
Creality GPL Update - Naomi Wu Released CR-10S Marlin Source Code
Here is a quick update to the Creality3D / GPL issue that gained massive attention a few days ago. Thanks to community pressure, and thanks to Naomi Wu, Crea...
Naomi Wu speaking at COSCon'18 (China Open-Source Conference)
**THIS IS VERY BORING UNLESS YOU ARE INTO OPEN SOURCE** Sino:bit: https://youtu.be/mt1OLgGIqhc?t=230 Ender-3: https://youtu.be/mt1OLgGIqhc?t=879 http://cosco...
CR-10 3D Printer- Now Open Source Hardware Association Certified!
Buy a CR10 here: http://bit.ly/2Tsp172 Download the CR-10 3D Printer Source: https://github.com/Creality3DPrinting/CR-10 Download the CR-10 Motherboard Sourc...
I shoot long, detailed build videos meticulously showing each step- more detailed than nearly any other female maker, and most men:
HeartBreaker💔 Chest Exploding Tool of Assassination!
Give us a hug! I tackle a classic build theme- with a wearable twist! Drilling, filing, brazing and more! Thanks to: the Hacksmith https://www.youtube.com/us...
🔥Lasercutter Fire!🔥- and CNC Enclosure Build
I build a noise and dust enclosure for my little CNC router- and have some adventures with workshop safety along the way😳 Lydia Streccius: http://bit.ly/2TL2...
LEBs- Cyberpunk Wearable Fiber Optic Implant Transillumination
I engineer and build a device that takes advantage of some of the unique light diffraction properties of my implants. Thanks to Creality3D for sponsoring me,...
CNC Engraver Unboxing and Assembly- the SainSmart Genmitsu
Buy the Genmitsu here: http://bit.ly/2rSqeZu Use the code NAOMI to get $20 off. Buy the Ender-3 here: http://bit.ly/2rQsY9R Good videos: myfordboy: https://y...
CAD tutorials (and I have to show me and the screen in the same shot, which is some bullshit but fine):
MOI3D CAD- Best Offline Fusion 360 Alternative?
If you're like me you don't want your tools in the Cloud. In this video I look at a 100% offline, easy to learn CAD program for Windows/Mac- MOI. http://MOI3...
Naomi Wu's DIY, 3D Printed Choker for Teens
This is my first Maker Educational tutorial- and yes there are a lot of problems with it The thing is lots of young adults are interested in me and my builds...
...and I am absolutely candid about my augmentation:
See My Boob😜
This week we look at something new! Sponsor me, get early access and support my work (but only if you can without hardship)😘: ►SubscribeStar: https://www.sub...
True, I have no ass, I'm ok with that- as are the kind of people I'm interested in.
The "I'm not really lesbian" angle is new, but not really offensive or anything. Yes, I have had a Beard for many years- married in fact, this is normal for Chinese in my position. Solves problems with parents and business. No, he's not an engineer or involved in my business- I get help mostly from local Chinese engineers. There's a few pictures of hench-husband and I floating around, it's not like anyone has ever seen me kiss or even hold hands with a guy? If I'd ever dated a man you'd think they would have popped out of the woodwork by now to say so. There are far, far more intimate pictures of me out there with girls I have dated. Guess you'll just have to remain skeptical?
Most of this skepticism is usually based on my appearance, many of you find my competence unlikely- yet there are literally thousands of women as or more technically competent than I am within a few kilometers of me. That's what we do in Shenzhen. I just slapped a pair of tits on and have better English than most. But the cognitive dissonance is to be expected if you aren't from someplace where technically competent young women are a dime a dozen.
Anyway, try to work that into some sort of larger unified conspiracy theory. Maybe one that explains why the fuck I'm doing this if I'm not really passionate about tech rather than any one of a hundred other ways I could sit around on my ass doing less and making 10x as much?
Crabbo
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Maybe the main problem is that instead of focusing on tech, you do unboxing vids for youtube.
As well as basing your entire persona around your body.
You are just a Belle Delphine wanna be, who has to throw LEDs on shit to try and differentiate yourself.
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Sure, see the bottom of the description box of this video: https://youtu.be/3NSSbhoFEw8
Yeah, not too happy about that either. I prefer to do build videos- and used to just do one a month or so since that's how long they take. The problem is the YouTube algorithm penalizes you pretty badly if you don't do weekly updates, and without Patreon I rely on YT ads quite a bit. Unboxing videos get hits, make money, only take a day or two to shoot. But if I had my preference, of course- I'd prefer to just do build videos. I'm trying to pivot into manufacturing so I'm not reliant on Youtube, if I can do that I might be able to make it more of a hobby again and just post when I feel like building something.
Yep! Regularly.
Not sure who that is but, yes? How I look is obviously very important to me, I've refused to change it even when it's become an impediment. I'm the first person to laugh and point out what a raging narcissist I am- it's an ongoing joke. This isn't any sort of a "gotcha", I'm a thot who does basic tech stuff- and since that gets some people interested in tech might not otherwise care, I'm pretty ok with it.
Sir Wesley Tailpipe
kiwifarms.net
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Sure, Timaz. We all believe you.
@Naomi_Wu , what I get most hung up on isn't the fake boobs or that you don't like wearing a lot of clothes, it's the specific clothes.
I know a lot about various Asian fashion trends, I know about the bimbofication community, I've seen what camgirls and hookers wear on and off duty and a lot of your clothes don't fit in any of these categories. Some of this stuff I've only seen women wearing when it was clear that men picked the outfit, usually art or porn drawn/directed by men for men.
Are you maybe inspired by something specific or have some examples of other people wearing the kind of style you do casually? I'm pretty fashion obsessed and obviously you have to buy this stuff somewhere but it just doesn't look like anything Ive seen a woman choose to wear herself. Maybe it's common for Chinese camgirls or something and I just never knew.
That's pretty much it for me, if you were into regular costhot/ewhore clothes I probably wouldn't have looked at this thread twice.
I know a lot about various Asian fashion trends, I know about the bimbofication community, I've seen what camgirls and hookers wear on and off duty and a lot of your clothes don't fit in any of these categories. Some of this stuff I've only seen women wearing when it was clear that men picked the outfit, usually art or porn drawn/directed by men for men.
Are you maybe inspired by something specific or have some examples of other people wearing the kind of style you do casually? I'm pretty fashion obsessed and obviously you have to buy this stuff somewhere but it just doesn't look like anything Ive seen a woman choose to wear herself. Maybe it's common for Chinese camgirls or something and I just never knew.
That's pretty much it for me, if you were into regular costhot/ewhore clothes I probably wouldn't have looked at this thread twice.
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LMAO
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But why? Why constantly look yourself up and why come here to this den of autism and spergery?
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Archive of the YouTube vid where @Naomi_Wu confirms that it's them in the description,
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@Naomi_Wu
I'm a woman in STEM who is also part of the LGBTQ community so I'm not under the impression that a woman can't be extremely competent in your field and I don't give a shit about a person's sexuality.
That said, there are some things about you out there that come across as strange, and I'm curious about;
You say you learned English from IIRC chats, and use google translate and other professionals to help. You must use that a lot, because your English includes such incredibly subtle nuances and such a profound understanding of the language and western culture itself. I know a lot of Chinese people who live fully immersed in western culture, surrounded by English-speakers 100% of the time and have done so for years who don't text (I understand speaking a language is harder than learning to write in it, not going to really bring up the deficit in your spoken English) with half the nuance you display.
It's not just that you speak English, but you speak it, specifically, like an American. I'm not from the US and I grew up in chats surrounded by Americans too, and while I definitely picked up on a lot of things from that, I still don't speak fluent US like you seem to do. Hell, when I go to the US I stand out like a sore thumb and it's not just my accent.
I'm a woman in STEM who is also part of the LGBTQ community so I'm not under the impression that a woman can't be extremely competent in your field and I don't give a shit about a person's sexuality.
That said, there are some things about you out there that come across as strange, and I'm curious about;
You say you learned English from IIRC chats, and use google translate and other professionals to help. You must use that a lot, because your English includes such incredibly subtle nuances and such a profound understanding of the language and western culture itself. I know a lot of Chinese people who live fully immersed in western culture, surrounded by English-speakers 100% of the time and have done so for years who don't text (I understand speaking a language is harder than learning to write in it, not going to really bring up the deficit in your spoken English) with half the nuance you display.
It's not just that you speak English, but you speak it, specifically, like an American. I'm not from the US and I grew up in chats surrounded by Americans too, and while I definitely picked up on a lot of things from that, I still don't speak fluent US like you seem to do. Hell, when I go to the US I stand out like a sore thumb and it's not just my accent.
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Sure, it's a reasonable question. I look a bit like some of the people in the Bimbofication community, not my fetish but they've always been very nice to me. Comes from a similar place- wanting an exaggerated femme appearance. In part, this is because I'm a Dee- Tom-Dees are a LGBT niche culture in Asia. It loosely maps to butch/femme culture in the West. Toms look like boys, Dees are Femme- sometimes High-Femme, sometimes, way on the far end of the gender expression spectrum, like me- Ultra-Femme.
See: http://www.queermango.com/5076/unde...bians-thailand-everything-always-wanted-know/
My girl Kim with other Dees because it turns out she's a ho:
Tom-Dee party:
Dees in China are called P's, they tend to go for femme in the frills and lace sense more- since Chinese guys like an innocent look and a lot are Bi. I don't really care what guys like, so over the top is more my style. This is more common in Thailand, and yeah a fair number of Bi Dees are bar girls, since the look lends itself to that line of work and not many others.
It's basically like a hairy gay "bear" dude on a ton of steroids- it's because he wants to look ultra-masculine. Some girls may like it also, but that's not really the point. Sometimes it's not about attracting anyone, it's about making your enclosure match what's in your head. And extreme gender expression, like other forms of body modification- comes with prejudice. If a company says it hires coders only on merit- and then won't hire the guy with a face tattoo, sure he should expect that, but fuck them for lying and fair game calling their bullshit out. So I expect it- I just refuse to accept it.
There's also a strong element of the Dolly Parton, and I idolized her growing up:
“I make jokes about it, but it's the truth that I kind of patterned my look after the town tramp. I didn't know what she was, just this woman who was blond and piled her hair up, wore high heels and tight skirts, and, boy, she was the prettiest thing I'd ever seen. Momma used to say, "Aw, she's just trash," and I thought, That's what I want to be when I grow up. Trash.”
― Dolly Parton
My parents are factory workers, when I was little I always wanted to look...fancy. Be the sort of woman that people stopped and stared at. To stand out in China, in a nearly homogeneous culture with 1.3b people- that's something special and to blend in is to feel invisible- it's like drowning. You feel like an ant in a hive- you'll be born, live, and die without anyone noticing you exist. I always wanted to stick out, to be special, not lost in the crowd.
When I first defined my appearance, I had a pretty childlike idea of what "sexy" was- and no real idea of what the sort of sexy I thought exciting meant outside of China, here it's just a bit strange and brave. Now I know it's a bit vulgar to foreigners and closes a lot of doors to me, but now it's my style so I'm willing to ensure insults and whatever else I have to since I'm happy being me and not happy pretending to be someone else.
My appearance helped when I got started online, now it definitely holds me back. I'm never going to be on Discovery, or Mythbusters, or sponsored by DeWalt, I'm about at the limit of what I can do in the West given to most Westerners I look like a particularly low-end prostitute. But it makes me visible in my country. It's gotten me a lot of latitude from the government, part of that is my high profile and because I'm so visible and hard to miss. If your threat model is being disappeared, the best way to fight against it is to be so visible people notice when you go missing. This is why there's a long tradition of women activists being nude or scantily glad here in China- it attracts attention to our causes, makes us harder to ignore.
When I was featured on Chinese TV they were willing to show the LGBT flag in the background- however you feel about that in the West, that's a huge deal in China. They were still regularly detaining LGBT activists two years ago. Anything that makes the government here more lenient, more accepting of difference- that's a reason for me to keep pushing, to stay weird, stay loud, stay difficult- no matter what Westerners think about it.
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What do you eat in a day and what are your thoughts on Hong Kong?
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I mostly learned it from the box set of Friends DVDs. This is actually pretty common here, you watch every season with Chinese subs a few times, and then with English subs, then with the sound on and the subtitles off and transcribe everything, then reading out loud with the sound off. Chat certainly helped as well. But a lot of it was Western TV shows.
Then when I was 19 I started going to meetups with expats, a lot of local girls do this to improve their English since tutoring for an hour can easily be a weeks pay. I was quite poor but a huge fan of American English and culture so it was really the only option. It's a bit of a meat-market, my now hench-husband was the only person at the time who immediately spotted which team I played for and graciously intercepted an overly enthusiastic drunk. I knew I needed cover for my parents and to be able to work around foreigners without being hassled, he needed someone who could interact easily with Chinese so he could focus on other things. It worked out exceptionally well. I've been able to regularly interact with our expat community here for many years and polish my English without having to live abroad
These days-yes, I get help when I'm writing as needed. My listening comprehension is still quite poor though because I didn't have access to fluent speakers until I was a teenager. I won several provincial prizes for my English in middle school- but the listening comprehension part was always my weak point.
But I am fairly obviously an outlier. I'm not suspiciously different than the other Mainland Chinese women doing digital fabrication on YouTube because their are none we can get a baseline from. So I'm weird by Chinese standards but exactly as weird as required to be where I am and doing what I do. Or else there would be others doing it.
But overall- yes. My technical ability is nothing special, but if people were to be suspicious of anything I would agree (and be flattered) it's my English. It is unusual in China and plays a far greater role in my success than I think people realize. I can't really prove or disprove anything here, all I can do is agree that yes, it is unusual.
I like chicken feet a lot, and HK is one of those sensitive topics I have to avoid. I walk a bit of a tightrope and have to choose my battles carefully, and that's not one I have any hope of influencing. I can't really accomplish much of anything if I get myself vanned again.
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I'll ask what I asked back on page 10: Has Naomi ever bothered to explain how VICE reporting on her sexuality is super duper dangerous, yet her openly talking about it on her twitter feed is somehow safe and fine? Am I supposed to assume that the CCP wouldn't have the ability to read English and know what twitter is?
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Oh, sure. I never talked about my sexuality or relationships at all prior to Vice making an issue of it. Of course the government knew about my sexual orientation.
Key issues:
1. Every journalist I had met with up until my Vice interview had agreed to "No discussion of relationships or sexual orientation". This goes back years- it's not something that was retconned because I was unhappy with Vice (sorry conspiracy theorists). Most were initially surprised by what is obviously meant, but quickly realized the issue and were very good about it. Wall Street Journal interviewed me long before Vice and can verify that this has always been a condition. Like a lot of Chinese I had a naive trust of Western media and thought them above this kind of betrayal. Obviously now I know better. Vice like the others agreed to my conditions.
2. China issues: https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-08-14/many-gay-chinese-prefer-fake-marriages-facing-family-home Nearly every picture of me for the last five years has my wedding ring in it. This is normal for us, and saves a lot of hassles- particularly with parents and business dealings. If I had my way I would have never had to be open about it. Vice had other ideas.
3. I spent three full days with Sarah Emerson (whom I don't blame for all this, everything I've been told indicates she was duped by Jason Koebler who needed someone I would trust, I think she did the interview in good faith but he had other plans). During those three days, Sarah did something I did not allow any other journalist to do- visit and film in my home. I only allowed this because of the agreement and because I had to put to rest rumors that I was fake- which I did by spending several hours fabricating a robot to pour drinks for them while they filmed. Even if I had not been candid in casual conversation with Sarah, once you are in my home- the whole thing is really clear, sleeping arrangements and such.
Once you have seen first hand what my arrangement is, and know my orientation "Heeeeeeey how about that husband of yours?" is no longer a good-faith question. But it's a question that *sounds* innocent to readers who don't know what Vice knew when they asked. Vice knew I was a closeted lesbian in Mainland China. Vice does not deny this- they say they wanted to discuss it in a "positive way".
Vice has a circulation of over 1 million- and is widely translated and distributed all over Chinese social media. Which is why I agreed to interview with them- a slightly higher online profile could translate into a degree of latitude with my open and illegal VPN activity. Being popular in the West and giving face to China can make you a *lot* safer. Unlike Reddit, 4chan, or other places the rumors that "it must be a White man responsible for all my work" were circulated. If Vice brings it up, it's going on Weibo, they will dig- and that can get very, very bad.
1. I could say nothing- which would make me guilty by omission, it would be the same as admitting it was true in the eyes of most. "What are you hiding?" was a very dangerous question at the time for people to start asking.
2. I could admit to having a foreign "husband"- but provide no detail other than that. With Vice's circulation, I would immediately be accused by Chinese of being influenced by “Western hostile forces”.
Given that I had already engaged in socially disruptive conduct over the inclusion of Chinese women at tech events: https://imgur.com/gallery/pk2Xd The Feminist Five had been jailed recently for doing something far more innocent I had every reason to be very, very scared. Of course the gov knows about me, but Chinese netizens are another matter. I'd be in very deep shit, very quickly if my campaigning for inclusion could be chalked up to me being the puppet of a foreigner.
The minute the Human Flesh Search Engine was launched in response to my "husband", I'd be outed. I have enough past partners that one would speak up- thinking she was defending me, plenty of photos with dates floating around. My arrangement would not hold up to the kind of scrutiny that Vice discussing it would bring to bear from Chinese netizens (and did not, I was effectively outed by them).
I spelled this out for Vice- I begged them for a month. I asked them to consult *any* China foreign correspondent and verify what I was saying. I contacted over a dozen journalists for help they refused, I contacted journalist ethics orgs- was told Vice was not breaking the law. I contacted the EFF, women in tech orgs- and was ignored. This was not me "angry I could not control the story" and instantly doxxing someone- this was me begging for someone to verify what I was saying with experts who deal with Chinese sources for a month.
Then there was another problem- which I can't go into. But suffice to say it was made absolutely clear that it was critical that my story "not embarrass China". And sorry, you do what you have to do at that point. But I did everything in my power to get some mediation, some arbitration, someone to say either I was full of shit or not- but all the people who say I did the "wrong thing" afterward- were completely unwilling to step up and help before I did.
I had friends that argued that the rumors I was gay or foreign-influenced circulating since the Vice article, were more damaging than an admission of the truth. Historically in China, until very recently it was always safer to deny, even if caught in the act, deny. Too many doors slam if you are LGBT and not rich. I eventually took the risk and conceded the rumors were true. I'm still seeing how that is going to play out.
In the end, Vice came to China- I didn't go there, they asked to interview me, then after they left decided to put eyes on something that it was made absolutely clear could result in detention. I'm sorry I got my dirty blood over their nice clean knives but none of this was initiated by me, up until Vice everyone who interviewed me had nothing but good things to say. But afterward, yes their spin and smear campaign was very effective- it's what they do for a living, I make stuff.
There is more detail here: https://medium.com/@therealsexycybo...ding-deplatforming-and-detention-140fed4b9554
But that's about as brief as I can make it. I can't really detail pressure by state actors beyond my own detention- since there is the risk of the pressure being exerted on my family, but other than that the "cats out of the bag" and there's no point in being secretive about my personal life or the details of what Western media has done.
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What do you think about western dudes who only follow you because of their lesbian fetish?
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I guess there have to be some? I'm not really the marketable kind of lesbian- I like Toms/soft butch girls. Most dudes like the cosplay girl femme/femme kissy sort. If I was faking it femme girls would be a much better bet.
When I came out I lost a few subs who were disappointed, I get a few nasty youtube comments a day. Nothing awful. But I don't hear much from guys saying "Aww yiss I want to see you getting it on with that girl who looks like a teenage boy" but I guess they're out there.
It's like the bimbo fetishists, Asian fetishists etc. Whatever floats your boat- I'm not the fap police, I don't care what people think so long as they don't tell me about it. I look like me for me, if they enjoy looking at me for their own reasons- politely, no harm done. My only objection is when people insist I look the way I do for money or for men, that's a little rude.